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Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.03.26 12:27:00 - [91] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 26/03/2005 12:29:26 oh yeah. Let me add that evol does NOT have 240+ active pilots. Membercount is not a good divider either. And as said, killboard span different timespans, some kills involve more skill then others. And lastly, what exactly are we measuring here ? The best corp in terms of individual skills ? The best corp organisation in a fight ? The best whatever ? _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.03.26 12:35:00 - [92] Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 26/03/2005 12:37:33 Once again, Shinra does not use EVE-Kills. We have our own killboard, located at www.sh1nra.com. All kills / losses should be in there, but the board is still a work-in-progress. EDIT: Also, a good way to get a good comparison. Compare either the number of pilots involved in the kills (Not sure if this can be done, but what i mean is, every pilot form a corp that has submitted a killmail or was involved in one. Instead of just the ingame number. Second, maybe a kills/loss would be good. A corp might kill alot, but lose alot aswell. /Elve New Video out! Watch me!
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.03.26 12:49:00 - [93] Originally by: Lifewire Where do i find the G-killboard? I heard you did a lot of destruction to BOB - can we see this? Our Killboard is not yet official, cause we still have no losses-list implemented. We had some fun fights against BoB, yes. But "lots of destruction" is a bit exaggerated. And i totally agree with dbp here. If we set back our stadnings to 0,0 immediately we could go on a killing-spree against miners. But that is not our gameplay neither our philosophy. And its not challenging either... [G] - Pink Power
Hassis	Posted - 2005.03.26 13:02:00 - [94] Here is CMS statistics of december 2004. It doesnt show up real skill level but makes sense who was who in CA. http://www.8ka.mipt.ru/~caesar/cakills.jpg And afaik all ex-ca corporations use eve-kills.com after CMS closing. So you can sum kills on this picture and kills from eve-kills since 2005 year started. Image changed to link. Do not post images on the forums - Vanamonde UA Industry :: We produce frags
Nafri	Posted - 2005.03.26 13:11:00 - [95] wekk imho its impossible to say whos the best most good fights and good pilots wont ever post here or dont touch the big politics, so you wont notice them here Wanna fly with me?
Lifewire	Posted - 2005.03.26 13:32:00 - [96] Probably really impossible to find out - but since there are always alts of corps that think they are creme de la creme opening these kind of topics it was about time to sort things out.
Nafri	Posted - 2005.03.26 13:42:00 - [97] Originally by: Lifewire Probably really impossible to find out - but since there are always alts of corps that think they are creme de la creme opening these kind of topics it was about time to sort things out. well thats true again ahh before I forget, I wont have internet for some weeks, so you guys will have the chance to chat on this board without me interfearing Wanna fly with me?
Fuffel	Posted - 2005.03.26 16:10:00 - [98] Edited by: Fuffel on 26/03/2005 16:18:55 Edited by: Fuffel on 26/03/2005 16:12:54 @ Hassis and your ca killboards even though the south had a lot of fights (ca vs sa all the time) I cant help but think that the north is way more organized and effective. We simply had to deal with much more foccussed groups, like evol, m0o, rkk and bnc. thus we learned from each other. Its not like the typical "omg, what a great fight I ll jump right back in again" massacre of the south, but so very nice planned and executed engagements. Corps like NSN, bladerunners and dvrn emerged out of this, Corps I wouldnt want to have on the other side of the battlefield. but there is little use in deciding "whos best" tundragoons and friends are killers, when it comes to stopping small travelling forces, m0o used to be great in killing your support before you could count to three. In all dignity I would say that my small corporation was on pair with some of the best and thats what prolonges the fun in this game. - g
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.03.26 22:40:00 - [99] tbh, this post is mostly bull****, its impossible to tell which corp is the best or which player is the best. Its pretty funny to read peoples comments though. Maybe a yr or a yr and a half ago it would have been possible to get a top 20 list...but now with the skill gap between players being made smaller, the list is immense.
MooKids	Posted - 2005.03.26 22:55:00 - [100] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr A good PvP corp goes into fights outnumbered with the idea that they can come out on top because of quality over quantity. Or is that what you meant? :) So I guess that would disqualify the Mercenary Coalition from this list? Oooo, I am so naughty . -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.03.26 23:41:00 - [101] Edited by: Julien Derida on 26/03/2005 23:46:04 Originally by: MooKids Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr A good PvP corp goes into fights outnumbered with the idea that they can come out on top because of quality over quantity. Or is that what you meant? :) So I guess that would disqualify the Mercenary Coalition from this list? Oooo, I am so naughty . For a man whose only involvement with the MC is this, you really seem to think you know a lot. People might listen to you if your opinion was backed up with actual combat experience against us. I find it especially ironic that the one kill you were involved in was a FRICK Megathron engaging 6 MF solo. ---------------------------------------- Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK
MooKids	Posted - 2005.03.26 23:44:00 - [102] Kind of hard considering you guys ran when we presented an equal threat. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.03.26 23:49:00 - [103] Well, your welcome to carry on living in your little fantasy world Mookids. Don't expect anyone else, especially those who have fought us, to believe you. ---------------------------------------- Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK
MooKids	Posted - 2005.03.26 23:54:00 - [104] Okay then, where is the exciting footage of BDCI and FRICK fighting us head to head in an epic battle where you guys actually stood your ground. I know how much you LOVE to make those movies so someone must have recorded it. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.03.27 00:04:00 - [105] There were no epic battles. Mainly because most of your pilots were either off in 0.0 fighting JQA with Imperium or docked in Orvolle. I fail to see how this reflects badly on us. If you want to chuck baseless flames at us, please start a new thread so that we don't ruin this one for everyone else. ---------------------------------------- Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK
Justin Cody	Posted - 2005.03.27 00:07:00 - [106] /me declares war on the forum
MooKids	Posted - 2005.03.27 00:15:00 - [107] Originally by: Julien Derida There were no epic battles. Mainly because most of your pilots were either off in 0.0 fighting JQA with Imperium or docked in Orvolle. I fail to see how this reflects badly on us. If you want to chuck baseless flames at us, please start a new thread so that we don't ruin this one for everyone else. We weren't fighting JQA qith Imperium (they didn't exist) and we only stayed docked because our few pilots that were on didn't feel like taking on your 20 ships that endlessly camped our station. Although you guys did have a strange fear of PF-346... This thread was ruined from the start anyways. I was just correcting people's misconceptions about your organization. I have no clue about your PVP abilities, just that you excel in blob or run tactics. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Julien Derida	Posted - 2005.03.27 00:27:00 - [108] Edited by: Julien Derida on 27/03/2005 00:31:04 Obviously I meant the corps that went on to form Imperium. I thought that would be self-evident. I believe MF were involved in the big fleet battles against JQA in VV-VCR. At least thats what some of your pilots told us... We were hired to prevent MF from pursuing any Empire wars. Funnily enough, PF (being 0.0) wasn't really of much interest to us. I'm not going to respond to your blob & run rubbish, because you have already made it clear that your going just going to keep repeating it without providing any evidence. Now please start a new thread if you want to continue this. Edit: I still find it laughable that you claim that other peoples opinions, which they have formed through regular combat with us, are 'misconceptions' compared to your opinion which is formed from virtually zero experience. ---------------------------------------- Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK
Lifewire	Posted - 2005.03.27 01:49:00 - [109] Maybe the good part of EVE is that we¦ll never find out wich corp is best. The anoying part is that repeatingly every 2 weeks we have alts of certain corps opening these topics "who¦s best?"...how comes??? A good pvp-corp has a killboard that represents their worth in combat. Killboards are important to get good mercanairy jobs and a pvp-corp needs reputation to get good jobs. So the next altchar that wants to know who¦s best should simply surf the different killboards to find out.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.03.27 02:45:00 - [110] Edited by: Sun Ra on 27/03/2005 02:47:29 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Lifewire Where do i find the G-killboard? I heard you did a lot of destruction to BOB - can we see this? Our Killboard is not yet official, cause we still have no losses-list implemented. We had some fun fights against BoB, yes. But "lots of destruction" is a bit exaggerated. And i totally agree with dbp here. If we set back our stadnings to 0,0 immediately we could go on a killing-spree against miners. But that is not our gameplay neither our philosophy. And its not challenging either... Yup its alot easier for those who can shoot prety much anyone to have a good pilot/kill ratio tbh the whole things abit pointless =]
sutty	Posted - 2005.03.27 08:19:00 - [111] MY E-PEEN IS BIGGER THEN YOUR E-PEEN OK ?
Lifewire	Posted - 2005.03.27 09:58:00 - [112] Your altchar?
Ben Derindar	Posted - 2005.03.27 09:59:00 - [113] Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 27/03/2005 00:31:04 Obviously I meant the corps that went on to form Imperium. I thought that would be self-evident. I believe MF were involved in the big fleet battles against JQA in VV-VCR. 2005.01.06 23:09:00 Victim: Domnhal II Corporation: Mercenary Forces Destroyed Type: Blackbird Solar System: VV-VCR System Security Level: 0.0 Yeah, MF were there. Damn, what a day that was... /Ben
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2005.03.27 12:11:00 - [114] Locked for offtopic, please dont create 'who is the best' type threads they usually end this way. ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)
Ithildin	Posted - 2005.03.27 12:13:00 - [115] Having fought with or against most of the former xCA, SE, and XF, as well as Huzzah and CVA, I can only speak from this experience. The only organisations I have been impressed with their performance in combat is those found in Mercenary Coalition. The only organisations I have been impressed with their performance on a strategical plane is found in Xetic leadership and CVA leadership. These are an outtake of corporations that behave and have gained my respect from combat situations: Celts Pie Inc. Rus Disclaimer: strategy does not equal generating most kills, and generating most kills does not equal strategy. Xetic does a very good strategical job in the MC war they are having right now, and I can only express my sympathy to CYVOK and Conram that some pilots (names omitted) refuse to acknowledge that they need to be alert of danger. Of Evol and mOo and some other high-profile corporations I have too little experience to throughly express myself. I am not easily impressed, and those mentioned here I salute. -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please.

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