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Teabaggins
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Posted - 2005.03.23 16:34:00 -
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Hey everybody, I've been lurking these forums and playing the game solo for about a month now. What I'm wondering is, what does this community consider to be the top 10 best pvp corps in the game, and why (and how can I get into them lol)? Please do not turn this thread into a "they suck because etc. etc," just your opinion, which everyone is entitled to 
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.23 16:37:00 -
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*Passes out the p3en-e measuring tapes*
Go far it boys...
*Retires to flame retardent bunker as the results come in*
(Nobody really cares tbh - it's all subjective)  -- ** All accounts cancelled - have fun guys ** |

Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.03.23 16:37:00 -
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eve-kills.com There you can see which corp destroys most ships. Not every corp post their kills there but you get a pretty good view of good pvp corps.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.03.23 16:42:00 -
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I would join State war academy tbh
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2005.03.23 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Hast I would join State war academy tbh

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Teabaggins
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Posted - 2005.03.23 16:56:00 -
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I'm really looking more for what the community at large thinks, versus what statistics I can read.
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.03.23 17:04:00 -
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BiG are the richest m0o are the most well-known pirates Evolution are the most well organised PiE are the most fanatic Vengeance of the Fallen are the most Xirtramiest
-------------- The Eve Diplomacy Table
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.03.23 17:05:00 -
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in no order:
m0o (before they hibernated and returned as m0o mk3: **** edition)
Forsaken Empire
Arcane Technologies
Kr0m (before hibernation)
MC (mercenary coalition) they are all great pvp corps. |

Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2005.03.23 17:49:00 -
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Friends of Suzy [SUZY]. Last I saw, that corp had the MOST uber equipment in the entire game, bar none. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.03.23 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq eve-kills.com There you can see which corp destroys most ships. Not every corp post their kills there but you get a pretty good view of good pvp corps.
That's that unbiased laggy site where they post kills from SiSi, right? ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq eve-kills.com There you can see which corp destroys most ships. Not every corp post their kills there but you get a pretty good view of good pvp corps.
That's that unbiased laggy site where they post kills from SiSi, right?
Yup, that's the one 
(actually tbh I've only heard about 1 person posting killmails from sisi there, and I don't really visit it at all so I wouldn't know if it was laggy or not)
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:29:00 -
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Eve-Kills is a very good site.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:39:00 -
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I'm the best ofc! \o/
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:41:00 -
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Real PVP corps have their own kill boards. Ours is www.atuk.org/kills.
Also, you can't just join a good PVP corp. You have to know someone and be invited or have something to offer.
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |

gggh
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:47:00 -
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Real PvP corps don't have to have own killboards. TBH, real pvp corps might not be bothered with wasting time making one and just use the one thats available for free.
Or not use one at all.
Infact, killboards IMO mean jack****.
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Kickass
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Posted - 2005.03.23 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Real PVP corps have their own kill boards. Ours is www.atuk.org/kills.
Also, you can't just join a good PVP corp. You have to know someone and be invited or have something to offer.
I guess this is to ensure that you are always #1 on the list.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:02:00 -
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Concord are the best PVP corp, their kill/death ratio is amazing !!!!
No killboards yet, but thats only a matter of time
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:05:00 -
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im the best, arent we talking about length?
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Real PVP corps have their own kill boards. Ours is www.atuk.org/kills.
Also, you can't just join a good PVP corp. You have to know someone and be invited or have something to offer.
its easy to be number one on your own killboard, much harder when compared to everyone else :)
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The Funkete
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:19:00 -
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Good luck trying to get a decent response from the trolls that frequent this side of the forums. I tried once it all i could do was laugh.
In the few minutes it has been up you have already gotten gems from JakkOff,Hast-been,in-Liu's-ear,the p-nus robed Kick-hauler-a$$
Am sure there are more to follw (dont waste your time)
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Keleborn
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:22:00 -
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How can you NOT be #1 in your own killboard?? Who's kills are we going to follow and report yours?
When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite but I don't waste my breath.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:39:00 -
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S.A.S, Beer and Kebabs, Alcohol fuelled, FE, the old m0o, Kr0m, ATUK.
Celtic Industries are a great pvp corp for the most part. they arent well known and they used to be CFS, but they are good at what they do 
My vids and random stuff |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:41:00 -
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In my opinion -
Supremacy, KIA, ATUK, REIGN, PIE, EXODUS and MASS are all very good PVP corps.
Oh, and SNRA of course.  --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

fugazii
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Posted - 2005.03.23 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: The Funkete Good luck trying to get a decent response from the A$$ trolls that frequent this side of the forums. I tried once it all i could do was laugh.
In the few minutes it has been up you have already gotten gems from JakkOff,Hast-been,in-Liu's-ear,the p-nus robed Kick-hauler-a$$
Am sure there are more to follw (dont waste your time)
you call others trolls while your doing the same...
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Teabaggins
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Posted - 2005.03.23 20:01:00 -
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Got some good responses here everybody, but hoping we can keep the flaming to a minimum, I've got to think that there's more than 1.5 pages worth of people out there who have an opinion on the subject.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.03.23 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lorth on 23/03/2005 20:02:23 There are lots of very good pvp corps. Also there are a lot of corps who think they're pvp but are in reality more gankers.
Telling the differance is impossible via kill boards. You really need to fly with the people for a while, or fight against them before you can figure it out.
To name a few, no order:
ATUK, RKK, EVOL, DIE, FE, SUPRM, DDC, Shinra, VOTF, BOS, and many others, I'm sorry if I forgot you.
The biggest thing, imo, is that a good pvp corp will fight in a situation where there is a good chance they'll lose. Not suicide tactics, but fighting out numbered for example. And more often then not they'll come out on top. And they will have no problem putting them sleves into a situation where they can lose ships.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.03.23 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Teabaggins Got some good responses here everybody, but hoping we can keep the flaming to a minimum, I've got to think that there's more than 1.5 pages worth of people out there who have an opinion on the subject.
the point is that its a very subjective topic, there is alot of opinions and oversizes ego's floating about 
there is also alot of good pvp'ers in some of the alliances and corps that doesent stick their nose in everything like me and the other regulars on this forum do 
Also saying who is the best pvp corp out there is impossible and pointless imo. You might have the biggest killratio on the server, but that might be clueless and unlucky miners... It may also vary from battle to battle... cos everyone knows, you win som and you loose some 
I would say shinra, but as you probably can see I'm highly biased and I'm guessing most of the other guys would say their corp aswell 
there are ofcourse some legendary corps, but I wont bother stroking their ego's more then needed, they allready know who they are 
this is my 2 cents
regards Hast-been
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siim
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Posted - 2005.03.23 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide S.A.S, Beer and Kebabs, Alcohol fuelled, FE, the old m0o, Kr0m, ATUK.
Celtic Industries are a great pvp corp for the most part. they arent well known and they used to be CFS, but they are good at what they do 
uhm
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.03.23 20:36:00 -
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Sig theif!
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FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

siim
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Posted - 2005.03.23 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver Sig theif!

I am not!
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.03.23 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kayosoni on 23/03/2005 21:32:09 Both current and has been...
In no order:
OC ATUK COL BOS EVOL (over a year ago) Me and my alt army
Those are pretty much all I would ever consider to be truely effective PVP corps.
BTW ens, my sig owns your sig quite hard. -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.03.23 21:35:00 -
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See my employment history?
There's your 1-1000 best pvp corps. In order.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.03.23 21:36:00 -
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EVER completely nulls that comment, josh. -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.03.23 21:52:00 -
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every pvp corp has it's star players, some are good at 1v1, some specialize in frig or BS combat and some are good fleet commanders but not so great solo. Some corps just have more star players than others. Some smoke way too much weed so are kind of out of it at times, others are only star players while smoking weed.
Moral of the story, just don't fear anyone and fight anybody anytime you're in the mood to fight.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.03.23 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 23/03/2005 21:59:02
Originally by: siim
Originally by: MAXSuicide S.A.S, Beer and Kebabs, Alcohol fuelled, FE, the old m0o, Kr0m, ATUK.
Celtic Industries are a great pvp corp for the most part. they arent well known and they used to be CFS, but they are good at what they do 
uhm
whats to uhm about? thats my honest opinion. some say what i say should be fact. but hey lol....
My vids and random stuff |

Odet
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Posted - 2005.03.23 22:18:00 -
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The best would have to be the corps that have stuck around and done what they do best the longest. And that role id have to give to m0o hands down.
they are great at what they do, and they've been doing it since day one.
other corps that definately deserve a mention are dark cartel, DNA, Evol, etc etc.
cheers
=This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.= |

Skelator
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Posted - 2005.03.23 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 23/03/2005 22:27:58 Edited by: Skelator on 23/03/2005 22:25:31
Originally by: OMGWTFHAX in no order:
m0o (before they hibernated and returned as m0o mk3: **** edition)
Forsaken Empire
Arcane Technologies
Kr0m (before hibernation)
MC (mercenary coalition) they are all great pvp corps.
Unlike my Counterpart Kayosoni I will be very fair and Even agree that his corp is kick ass too and hope he will be honest and not biased in his future assesments 
But in all fairness Dont forget RUS, VOTF, Shinra, Space Invaders, Black Omega Security, TeddyBears, "JOKERS"!!! (Most underrated team in the game IMHO) DNA, RONA, CORP1 and a host of others...
For Guerilla combat no one beat us though 
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.03.23 22:27:00 -
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geurilla these days means 'sit on log in screen, alt finds hostile, everyone log in, gank, log off.'
i hope thats not what u do  
DNA seem to be a great corp, ive never fought them/fought with them but from their vids and what ive heard they sound pretty good.
My vids and random stuff |

Skelator
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Posted - 2005.03.23 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 23/03/2005 22:31:04
Originally by: MAXSuicide geurilla these days means 'sit on log in screen, alt finds hostile, everyone log in, gank, log off.'
i hope thats not what u do  
DNA seem to be a great corp, ive never fought them/fought with them but from their vids and what ive heard they sound pretty good.
just ask anyone who has ever flown with us what we do I PERSONALLY have NEVER used login traps.
Guerilla to my corp means Hit and Run hence the "GhostFleet" tags Which we Coined in this game.

P.S. the absolute WORST WTFPWN spanking I ever got was recently and that was by DNA Forces Respects to you guys Good Kill!!!
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.23 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: The Funkete Good luck trying to get a decent response from the trolls that frequent this side of the forums. I tried once it all i could do was laugh.
In the few minutes it has been up you have already gotten gems from JakkOff,Hast-been,in-Liu's-ear,the p-nus robed Kick-hauler-a$$
Am sure there are more to follw (dont waste your time)
Originally by: The Funkete Posted - 2005.03.03 17:55:00
I agree that alt flaming is a problem but am not flaming and I cant post with my main, so please back on topic.
Sad Alt Losers 4tw?  -- ** All accounts cancelled - have fun guys ** |

Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.03.23 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth The biggest thing, imo, is that a good pvp corp will fight in a situation where there is a good chance they'll lose. Not suicide tactics, but fighting out numbered for example. And more often then not they'll come out on top. And they will have no problem putting them sleves into a situation where they can lose ships.
Not entirely...
A good PvP corp goes into fights outnumbered with the idea that they can come out on top because of quality over quantity. Or is that what you meant? :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.03.23 22:55:00 -
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There is no best. Each corp has its strengths and weakneses. Some are good at blob fights, others are better at skirmishes. Ask 100 ppl and you will get 100 different answers.
Many people would like to join VOTF or ATUK etc because they have a long reputation. But you are just a cog in the machine. They are not true PVP corps in the sense they have a lot of NPC/agent runners who pvp part time. Very few corps are pure pvp, IE they don't do anything else. Most people I've spoken to havea much better time in the smaller pvp corps. They get to know everyone really well and everyone is really spot on with fighting. Just because some corp has 200 members doesnt make them good. If you want to say for sure who the best is, you will have to join them all so you can make up your own mind, because nobody else can tell you who the best is. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health |

Wuubaa
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Posted - 2005.03.23 23:49:00 -
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me. im teh bestest!!!!!!!!1!!!!111!!!!!111!1!!!
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.03.23 23:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Kickass
Originally by: Metal Dude Real PVP corps have their own kill boards. Ours is www.atuk.org/kills.
Also, you can't just join a good PVP corp. You have to know someone and be invited or have something to offer.
I guess this is to ensure that you are always #1 on the list.
Offering money always works like a charm 
Anyway, what's more important then being #1 is having a corp that consists only of people that will work together and can go along.
Yes ATUK is always looking to increase it's fine collection of top notch PvP players. It's kinda like Pokemon 
But it's the teamwork and the abundance of excellent fleet commanders that makes us IMHO #1.
Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: Metal Dude Real PVP corps have their own kill boards. Ours is www.atuk.org/kills.
Also, you can't just join a good PVP corp. You have to know someone and be invited or have something to offer.
its easy to be number one on your own killboard, much harder when compared to everyone else :)
Most killboards track the number of kills made by other players as well. While they might not list you, it's often still possible to get a complete list of total kills (this might even lead to funny situations when these people later then join the corp they have been killing, doesn't it Thol?)
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.24 01:01:00 -
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Forget eve-kills.com - most good pvp-corps use their own boards and also eve-kills.com does not check the corpsize.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2005.03.24 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire Forget eve-kills.com - most good pvp-corps use their own boards and also eve-kills.com does not check the corpsize.
HAHAHAHA WORD best thing said on these boards for a long time
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Domalais
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Posted - 2005.03.24 01:16:00 -
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To be honest, as a new player I wouldn't go for one of the top corps. Join a small corp, preferably one that specializes in fast tactics. This will get you the experience and skills that you need to become a good PVPer, without the potential of being overlooked in a large, expert corp.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.03.24 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach *Passes out the p3en-e measuring tapes*
Go far it boys...
*Retires to flame retardent bunker as the results come in*
(Nobody really cares tbh - it's all subjective) 
WHAT ?? TO THE CAMP BOYS!! .. o wait . not the system  ------------------
Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.03.24 02:33:00 -
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OMGWTFHAX is not my alt... -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

jamesw
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Posted - 2005.03.24 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide geurilla these days means 'sit on log in screen, alt finds hostile, everyone log in, gank, log off.
No, thats called "being a tard".
People seem to get that misconception about geurilla fighters logging on, because there was no one nearby on the map when they got killed. Usually they are on the map - just 4 or 5 jumps away from where they actually are.
My respect goes out to anyone who will fight when outnumbered, and take a loss on the chin without making excuses. -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I fly a dominix, its like a portable blob in a can
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: The Funkete Good luck trying to get a decent response from the trolls that frequent this side of the forums. I tried once it all i could do was laugh.
In the few minutes it has been up you have already gotten gems from JakkOff,Hast-been,in-Liu's-ear,the p-nus robed Kick-hauler-a$$
Am sure there are more to follw (dont waste your time)
Originally by: The Funkete Posted - 2005.03.03 17:55:00
I agree that alt flaming is a problem but am not flaming and I cant post with my main, so please back on topic.
Sad Alt Losers 4tw? 
actually the Hast-been comment makes me feel appreciated 
on other notes Skelator and Stronghold deserves a mention, and CELES... (CELES suck though, wuubaa couldnt find his way to yulai even if he's life depended on it )
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni OMGWTFHAX is not my alt...
you mean you actually manage to keep track of all your alts?
btw: Bared says Hi! 
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:19:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 24/03/2005 04:19:38
Originally by: jamesw
Originally by: MAXSuicide geurilla these days means 'sit on log in screen, alt finds hostile, everyone log in, gank, log off.
No, thats called "being a tard".
People seem to get that misconception about geurilla fighters logging on, because there was no one nearby on the map when they got killed. Usually they are on the map - just 4 or 5 jumps away from where they actually are.
My respect goes out to anyone who will fight when outnumbered, and take a loss on the chin without making excuses.

Rubra Libertas Militia Are the Great Guerilla fighters also. Love flying with these guys  
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Bosie
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:30:00 -
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I have been a member of two top PvP corps.
RKK: Taught me the basics of PvP. Galavet showed me how to move a fleet of ships and how to win large battles.
TunDragons: Taught me to value frigs. The main thing I learned with TDG was how to use a wolf pack and to fear them.
The main things that I lernt from both Corps was:
- Communication
- Team work
- Dedication
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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siim
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Posted - 2005.03.24 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni OMGWTFHAX is not my alt...
I know whos alt he is 
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.03.24 06:23:00 -
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Yes I can keep track of my alts. -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.03.24 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: siim
Originally by: Kayosoni OMGWTFHAX is not my alt...
I know whos alt he is 
What are you implying 
Not mine either  --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.03.24 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni Yes I can keep track of my alts.

You must be like one of those aliens in MIB that run those control panels...
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H Zub
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Posted - 2005.03.24 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra There is no best. Each corp has its strengths and weakneses. Some are good at blob fights, others are better at skirmishes. Ask 100 ppl and you will get 100 different answers.
Many people would like to join VOTF or ATUK etc because they have a long reputation. But you are just a cog in the machine. They are not true PVP corps in the sense they have a lot of NPC/agent runners who pvp part time. Very few corps are pure pvp, IE they don't do anything else. Most people I've spoken to havea much better time in the smaller pvp corps. They get to know everyone really well and everyone is really spot on with fighting. Just because some corp has 200 members doesnt make them good. If you want to say for sure who the best is, you will have to join them all so you can make up your own mind, because nobody else can tell you who the best is.
Well spoken..
Captain Morgan Society Me parrot Movie |

justplease
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:01:00 -
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well... you can easily just exclude all thoose who laim to be pure pvp corps when quite some of their members are posting/trolling on the official forums so often 
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siim
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra There is no best. Each corp has its strengths and weakneses. Some are good at blob fights, others are better at skirmishes. Ask 100 ppl and you will get 100 different answers.
Many people would like to join VOTF or ATUK etc because they have a long reputation. But you are just a cog in the machine. They are not true PVP corps in the sense they have a lot of NPC/agent runners who pvp part time. Very few corps are pure pvp, IE they don't do anything else. Most people I've spoken to havea much better time in the smaller pvp corps. They get to know everyone really well and everyone is really spot on with fighting. Just because some corp has 200 members doesnt make them good. If you want to say for sure who the best is, you will have to join them all so you can make up your own mind, because nobody else can tell you who the best is.
wtf happend to the real Shin Ra ?
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PAPA
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:55:00 -
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gate camping is dull so people read and post
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Dabone
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff Concord are the best PVP corp, their kill/death ratio is amazing !!!!
No killboards yet, but thats only a matter of time
Lol! ain't that the truth. 
The only love in prison is the kind cigarettes can buy. |

Tyrozet
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Posted - 2005.03.24 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq eve-kills.com There you can see which corp destroys most ships. Not every corp post their kills there but you get a pretty good view of good pvp corps.
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This does not show who the best is. It is a kill board u donkey. Give you a senario, lets say a one man bad corp ie a solo player had more kills how could he ever keep up with a 200 man corp??
In short it is impossible to say who the best corp is. Although I would say, of xourse you say, that corp 1 must be up there. Probably because we are consisitent.
If you were waiting for the opportune moment that was it... |

fugazii
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Posted - 2005.03.24 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrozet
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq eve-kills.com There you can see which corp destroys most ships. Not every corp post their kills there but you get a pretty good view of good pvp corps.
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This does not show who the best is. It is a kill board u donkey. Give you a senario, lets say a one man bad corp ie a solo player had more kills how could he ever keep up with a 200 man corp??
In short it is impossible to say who the best corp is. Although I would say, of xourse you say, that corp 1 must be up there. Probably because we are consisitent.
his name will show up on the top 15 players kill-point wise then.
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2005.03.24 17:58:00 -
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Black Nova Corp Dirty Deeds Corp Celtic Industries Celestial Horizon Corp. Forsaken Empire Evolution
All four of us in the MC: Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Body Count Incorporated The Corporation North Star Networks
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TIvian
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Posted - 2005.03.25 11:31:00 -
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Thanks to all those who mentioned Black Omega Security. Nice to be respected.
As for who I think is the best?
All the old school Curse Alliance Corps For teh Win!!!

(\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.03.25 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 25/03/2005 12:05:55
Originally by: Lifewire Forget eve-kills.com - most good pvp-corps use their own boards and also eve-kills.com does not check the corpsize.
i disagree. theres quite a few good pvp corps that use www.eve-kills.com.
theres a single player ranking aswell on that site...
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.03.25 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Lifewire Forget eve-kills.com - most good pvp-corps use their own boards and also eve-kills.com does not check the corpsize.
i disagree. theres quite a few good pvp corps that use www.eve-kills.com.
theres a single player ranking aswell on that site...
From what I've been told, the killboard.net system is being worked over as well. Soon there will be one centralized killboard that ties all of the various individial client boards together. -
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.25 13:18:00 -
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Quote: i disagree. theres quite a few good pvp corps that use www.eve-kills.com.
theres a single player ranking aswell on that site...
Rank 1 on eve-kills.com is Supremacy 4105 kills with 193 members. This are lousy 21 kills/pilot.
Rank 3 in www.eve-kills.com is Forsaken Empire that has a ratio of 35 kills/pilot. So they should be rank 1.
Compare this for example to m0o: their board shows 3470 kills with 51 members. 68 kills/pilot.
This is why you can forget eve-kills.com.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.03.25 13:33:00 -
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meh another problem with BoBs killboard at least, on foe kills it shows killings of a corp called devils brigade.
they arent a member of foe. so take them off that list.
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.03.25 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 25/03/2005 13:56:05
 So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.03.25 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zandramus on 25/03/2005 14:26:19 I have to say I have flown with several corps now and Hands down S.A.S is gotta be one of the top Gurilla corps in the game.
if you look at individual stats on eve.kills they have more individuals in the top 15 kills than any other corp in the game.
If you look at corp size/kills they are the top killers in the game. at an average of 100 kills a pilot. and those just since refomation 6 weeks ago. if you add the previous The Risning Storm into S.A.S and they are by far the leading killers in the game.
I am very glad to have been able to fly with these guys as They have kept the game interesting for me and it is always fun, this corp does nothing but pvp so its whenever you log on you join the guys wherever they are and start shooting people.
I have not experienced that in any other corp I have been in and I find it very invigoration the amount of teamwork in this corp is really impressive.
Zandramus Zandramus Parking Violations Officer Geminate Division S.A.S
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.03.25 14:35:00 -
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lol estios..sorry but i had to say. cant have that kind of mistake on a killboard.
zan: add the kills s.a.s have got sicne the game began, and they probably are the top killers 
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.25 15:02:00 -
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Quote: if you look at individual stats on eve.kills they have more individuals in the top 15 kills than any other corp in the game
S.A.S is another good example why the eve-kill.com board is useless: S.A.S has 1320 kills and 17 members - 78 kills/pilot. That is an awesome ratio for a mercenairy corp. A loot-orientated pirate-corp would still run out of ISK with this low kill-ratio, though.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.03.25 15:34:00 -
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depends who they fight, they got over 4bils worth off xetic in a couple of weeks...
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Capt Hindgrinder
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Posted - 2005.03.25 15:37:00 -
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To the newb poster:
U wanna learn to fight and join a good group? I'd suggest Sharks with Frik'n Laser Beams 4tnebw. Despite the fact that there are much more bloody, experienced, "uber" pvp corps out there, i truely think this would be the best place to be as a newb pvp'r. Why? Well, a few reasons: 1. They are competant. (high praise from me) 2. They do contract work. 3. Apparently they are fun to chill with on ts.
You see, the good thing about this merc corp is that if you ever decide you want to leave and/or do something different, at least you CAN. Having "FRICK" on your employment history won't close any doors for you, whereas having SNRA, VOTF, ATUK, MOO ect will close MANY doors for you later. The entire server knows and respects the "contract work" of Sharks and when the war is over, the combatants generally go their own ways and might even shake hands and say GG. This is NOT the case with the other corps i mentioned whereas when the war is over, the bitterness lasts, seeths and grows until a new war is started. Whatever u do in Eve, make sure u do it for your own enjoyment and not to clean up or avenge someone elses mess. (unless you enjoy doing that). Either way - it's sound advice.
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Top 5 List:(IMFUO)
1. VIRII (above the rest for sheer determination) 2. RUS (you can kill a russian, but can't stop him from coming back, again and again and again and again...) 3. VOTF (where all x-CA p1zssed off former CEO's retire) 4. ALTZ (Mchalin is the most underrated commander in eve) 5. BNC (Drinking and driving is bad mmmmK?)
Props of coarse to bob, sh|tra, SE and SPRM - they can fight. Too many griefers to be worth much praise though.
C.H.
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2005.03.25 16:05:00 -
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I have to say that from what I saw, cabadrin's post was top notch and right on. Though not many have mentioned the Mercenary Coalition forces yet, I do believe that they are among the top pvp'ers in the game. Take it from someone who was on the recieving end not so long ago:) as for other corps, I have to mention Evol, although from what im told by my friends there they arent in the thick right now. Also must mention F-E because they get high rank on evekills (its GOTTA mean something!) and CELTIC Industries, because Im a celt and have to mention my corp as being IMO among the 10 best in game:-d Bias ftw! BAWWWK!
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.03.25 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Hamatitio on 25/03/2005 16:17:09 DIE (before we became the **** we are now.) Thou shalt fear us after we are over with WOW tho...unless we use Will of The Forsaken. **** too much wow...ahh the patch is installed. --
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.03.25 17:21:00 -
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I don't think you can judge the quality of a PvP corp purely on the number of kills or even kills/pilot. There are too many other factors that influence that. The only way to judge the quality of a corp is to fly with them or against them, hence my list only includes people I have direct experience with.
I was very impressed with pre-BoB m0o and Evol, back when people still called them m0ovolution. We flew with them during a mini invasion of Curse, and they certainly lived up to their rep at the time.
TRS/S.A.S. impressed me when they fought with us against The Merchant Marines. Zincol is a machine.
The two corps that have impressed me most during our recent contracts have been F-E and CELTS. Both are highly competent and show a willingness to engage where lesser corps would safespot or log.
CLS deserve a small mention for having a few very good PvPers. They are far too bloated to ever be considered a good PvP corp in the traditional sense though.
I also rate our own MC pretty highly, although blowing your own trumpet lacks class so I won't emphasise the point . I will however say that I think FRICK has some of the best frig pilots in the game...
I think that just about sums up my viewpoint.
Re: Capt Highgrinder: Thanks for the kind words about us . I should however point out to anyone else who is reading this that FRICK are not recruiting at the moment and will not be for the forseeable future. We are a small corp with a very low pilot turnover rate (when people join, they tend to stay forever) and we simply can't fit anyone else in. Your description would have been spot on 6-8months ago though .
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 26/03/2005 03:15:58 Kills/pilot shows a lot. But yes, a lot of things have to be considered. How many enemys for example. Gangsize used while hunting, what type of ships were destroyed and how is the political situation. Since the server is bugged i made a little statistic grabbing numbers from all known official killboards and sorted the corps by kills. You will find out that corps with many enemys get automatically a better kills/pilot-ratio. You will also find out that pirate and pure mercenairy corps get brutal ammounts of kills with only few members, while corps that are involved in alliances or other political circumstands suffer much because they have a lot of non-pvpers (cannonfood). Data is of all known killboards - edit if you have actualized killnumbers.
S.A.S 1321 kills (eve-kills.com) 102 BS 134 tech II ships enemys: 50000+ status: mercenairy 17 pilots 77,70 kills/pilot
Reikoku: 1944 kills (killboard.net) 300 BS 185 tech II ships enemys:30000+ status: alliance 121 pilots 16,06 kills/pilot
Shinra: 2108 kills (eve-kills.com) 484 BS 175 tech II ships enemys: 20000+ status: alliance 341 pilots 6,18 kills/pilot
ASS: 2567 kills (eve-kills.com) 302 BS 145 tech II ships enemys: 50000+ status: pirate 56 pilots 45,83 kills/pilot
BNC: 3100 kills (killboard.net) 435 BS 236 tech II ships enemys: 30000+ status: alliance 147 pilots 21,08 kills/pilot
VOTF: 3332 kills (eve-kills.com) 520 BS 342 tech II ships enemys:35000+ status: alliance 163 members 20,44 kills/pilot
Forsaken Empire: 3691 kills (eve-kills.com) 481 BS 275 tech II ships enemys:40000+ status: alliance/pirate 98 pilots 37,66 kills/pilot
Evolution: 3939 kills (killboard.net) 707 BS 340 tech II ships enemys: 40000+ status: alliance 241 pilots 16,34 kills/pilot
Supremacy: 4122 kills (eve-kills.com) 532 BS 390 tech II ships enemys: 10000+ status: mercenairy/alliance 193 pilots 21,35 kills/pilot
ATUK: 5392 kills (killboard.net) 932 BS 400 tech II ships enemys: 40000+ status: alliance 300 pilots 17,97 kills/pilot
TDGs and friends: 5607 kills (tundragon.com) 520 BS 386 tech II ships enemys: 50000+ status: pirate 43 pilots 130,39 kills/pilot
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:13:00 -
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Lifewire: kills per person per day would make more sense, since most of those corps listed started their killboards at totally different times
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:16:00 -
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It also makes a difference if u kill noobs or good pvpers...
[G] - Pink Power
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 26/03/2005 03:31:11 I knew you all wouldnt like my statistic 
Quote: Lifewire: kills per person per day would make more sense, since most of those corps listed started their killboards at totally different times
Sure - our board is a really old one - started 2004-07-06.
Quote: It also makes a difference if u kill noobs or good pvpers...
No, its the same explosion flash - verified and tested 
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:20:00 -
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Everybody has his own points of view.
Killing noobs is nothing spectacular in my eyes, its to predictable 
[G] - Pink Power
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:22:00 -
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Where do i find the G-killboard? I heard you did a lot of destruction to BOB - can we see this?
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Eleese
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:31:00 -
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Its very much an opinion to whos best and what makes them best. Imo i dont feel number of kills is what makes a good pvp'er.
Who is the best pvp'er the guy who sits at 200km with friends boosting and sniping with his 5 wcs.
Or a blasterthron who warps in solo vs 3 bs kills 1 and warps out? the sniper has 200 kills and 1 loss. the blasterthron has 190 kills and 7 loses.
The sniper is a more effective pvp'er imo and the blasterthron is the more skilled pvp'er.... which is best being effective or being skilled?
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.26 03:43:00 -
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Quote: Or a blasterthron who warps in solo vs 3 bs kills 1 and warps out? the sniper has 200 kills and 1 loss. the blasterthron has 190 kills and 7 loses.
The sniper is a more effective pvp'er imo and the blasterthron is the more skilled pvp'er.... which is best being effective or being skilled?
Both options are interesting - 2 days ago i mwded into 30 VOTF with my Smartbomb-Domi and was podded. But there was a good chance to make 10-20 kills in 16 seconds. Sniping is also an option, but its often boring because it is too safe. Close combat is usually more fun.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.03.26 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 26/03/2005 15:13:32 Gotta agree with Woodlouse.
I could remove all standings with RKK and give use free reign to go kill everything going.
That won't make us any better good pvp'ers.
The best are the ones who can fight outnumbered or equal numbers against pvp'ers and come out on top.
I honestly couldn't say who was the best in the game at the minute because everything is pretty screwed up and I think most pvp corps are trying to find their feet at the minute. The ATUK core pvp'ers (i.e. the top 50 pvp'ers) are prolly as close to being the best that I've seen recently. CE could be the best pvp corp in the game but they hate losing BS and so hold back too often from their full potential.
However, number of ships killed does not make a corp great neither does blowing smoke up your own corps ass to make you look good.
EDIT: where did u make up those numbers for RKK from? These are our proper numbers: Reikoku's proper numbers
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2005.03.26 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire Edited by: Lifewire on 26/03/2005 03:15:58 Kills/pilot shows a lot. But yes, a lot of things have to be considered. How many enemys for example. Gangsize used while hunting, what type of ships were destroyed and how is the political situation. Since the server is bugged i made a little statistic grabbing numbers from all known official killboards and sorted the corps by kills. You will find out that corps with many enemys get automatically a better kills/pilot-ratio. You will also find out that pirate and pure mercenairy corps get brutal ammounts of kills with only few members, while corps that are involved in alliances or other political circumstands suffer much because they have a lot of non-pvpers (cannonfood). Data is of all known killboards - edit if you have actualized killnumbers.
S.A.S 1321 kills (eve-kills.com) 102 BS 134 tech II ships enemys: 50000+ status: mercenairy 17 pilots 77,70 kills/pilot
Reikoku: 1944 kills (killboard.net) 300 BS 185 tech II ships enemys:30000+ status: alliance 121 pilots 16,06 kills/pilot
Shinra: 2108 kills (eve-kills.com) 484 BS 175 tech II ships enemys: 20000+ status: alliance 341 pilots 6,18 kills/pilot
ASS: 2567 kills (eve-kills.com) 302 BS 145 tech II ships enemys: 50000+ status: pirate 56 pilots 45,83 kills/pilot
BNC: 3100 kills (killboard.net) 435 BS 236 tech II ships enemys: 30000+ status: alliance 147 pilots 21,08 kills/pilot
VOTF: 3332 kills (eve-kills.com) 520 BS 342 tech II ships enemys:35000+ status: alliance 163 members 20,44 kills/pilot
Forsaken Empire: 3691 kills (eve-kills.com) 481 BS 275 tech II ships enemys:40000+ status: alliance/pirate 98 pilots 37,66 kills/pilot
Evolution: 3939 kills (killboard.net) 707 BS 340 tech II ships enemys: 40000+ status: alliance 241 pilots 16,34 kills/pilot
Supremacy: 4122 kills (eve-kills.com) 532 BS 390 tech II ships enemys: 10000+ status: mercenairy/alliance 193 pilots 21,35 kills/pilot
ATUK: 5392 kills (killboard.net) 932 BS 400 tech II ships enemys: 40000+ status: alliance 300 pilots 17,97 kills/pilot
TDGs and friends: 5607 kills (tundragon.com) 520 BS 386 tech II ships enemys: 50000+ status: pirate 43 pilots 130,39 kills/pilot
not sure whether im reading this wrong, but you have evol showing 707 BS kills when according to our board the number is 1128 oO *shrug*
http://www.killboard.net/?p=corp&c=Evolution&sp=stats
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.03.26 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 26/03/2005 12:29:26 oh yeah.
Let me add that evol does NOT have 240+ active pilots. Membercount is not a good divider either.
And as said, killboard span different timespans, some kills involve more skill then others. And lastly, what exactly are we measuring here ? The best corp in terms of individual skills ? The best corp organisation in a fight ? The best whatever ? _______________________________________________
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.03.26 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 26/03/2005 12:37:33 Once again, Shinra does not use EVE-Kills. We have our own killboard, located at www.sh1nra.com. All kills / losses should be in there, but the board is still a work-in-progress.
EDIT: Also, a good way to get a good comparison. Compare either the number of pilots involved in the kills (Not sure if this can be done, but what i mean is, every pilot form a corp that has submitted a killmail or was involved in one. Instead of just the ingame number.
Second, maybe a kills/loss would be good. A corp might kill alot, but lose alot aswell.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.03.26 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire Where do i find the G-killboard? I heard you did a lot of destruction to BOB - can we see this?
Our Killboard is not yet official, cause we still have no losses-list implemented.
We had some fun fights against BoB, yes. But "lots of destruction" is a bit exaggerated.
And i totally agree with dbp here. If we set back our stadnings to 0,0 immediately we could go on a killing-spree against miners.
But that is not our gameplay neither our philosophy.
And its not challenging either...
[G] - Pink Power
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Hassis
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Posted - 2005.03.26 13:02:00 -
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Here is CMS statistics of december 2004. It doesnt show up real skill level but makes sense who was who in CA.
http://www.8ka.mipt.ru/~caesar/cakills.jpg
And afaik all ex-ca corporations use eve-kills.com after CMS closing. So you can sum kills on this picture and kills from eve-kills since 2005 year started.
Image changed to link. Do not post images on the forums - Vanamonde
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.03.26 13:11:00 -
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wekk imho its impossible to say whos the best
most good fights and good pilots wont ever post here or dont touch the big politics, so you wont notice them here
Wanna fly with me?
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.26 13:32:00 -
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Probably really impossible to find out - but since there are always alts of corps that think they are creme de la creme opening these kind of topics it was about time to sort things out.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.03.26 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire Probably really impossible to find out - but since there are always alts of corps that think they are creme de la creme opening these kind of topics it was about time to sort things out.
well thats true again
ahh before I forget, I wont have internet for some weeks, so you guys will have the chance to chat on this board without me interfearing  Wanna fly with me?
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.03.26 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: Fuffel on 26/03/2005 16:18:55 Edited by: Fuffel on 26/03/2005 16:12:54 @ Hassis and your ca killboards
even though the south had a lot of fights (ca vs sa all the time) I cant help but think that the north is way more organized and effective.
We simply had to deal with much more foccussed groups, like evol, m0o, rkk and bnc. thus we learned from each other.
Its not like the typical "omg, what a great fight I ll jump right back in again" massacre of the south, but so very nice planned and executed engagements.
Corps like NSN, bladerunners and dvrn emerged out of this, Corps I wouldnt want to have on the other side of the battlefield.
but there is little use in deciding "whos best"
tundragoons and friends are killers, when it comes to stopping small travelling forces, m0o used to be great in killing your support before you could count to three.
In all dignity I would say that my small corporation was on pair with some of the best and thats what prolonges the fun in this game.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.03.26 22:40:00 -
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tbh, this post is mostly bull****, its impossible to tell which corp is the best or which player is the best. Its pretty funny to read peoples comments though.
Maybe a yr or a yr and a half ago it would have been possible to get a top 20 list...but now with the skill gap between players being made smaller, the list is immense.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.03.26 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
A good PvP corp goes into fights outnumbered with the idea that they can come out on top because of quality over quantity. Or is that what you meant? :)
So I guess that would disqualify the Mercenary Coalition from this list?
Oooo, I am so naughty . -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.03.26 23:41:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Julien Derida on 26/03/2005 23:46:04
Originally by: MooKids
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
A good PvP corp goes into fights outnumbered with the idea that they can come out on top because of quality over quantity. Or is that what you meant? :)
So I guess that would disqualify the Mercenary Coalition from this list?
Oooo, I am so naughty .
For a man whose only involvement with the MC is this, you really seem to think you know a lot. People might listen to you if your opinion was backed up with actual combat experience against us.
I find it especially ironic that the one kill you were involved in was a FRICK Megathron engaging 6 MF solo. ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |

MooKids
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Posted - 2005.03.26 23:44:00 -
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Kind of hard considering you guys ran when we presented an equal threat. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.03.26 23:49:00 -
[103]
Well, your welcome to carry on living in your little fantasy world Mookids. Don't expect anyone else, especially those who have fought us, to believe you. ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |

MooKids
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Posted - 2005.03.26 23:54:00 -
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Okay then, where is the exciting footage of BDCI and FRICK fighting us head to head in an epic battle where you guys actually stood your ground. I know how much you LOVE to make those movies so someone must have recorded it. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.03.27 00:04:00 -
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There were no epic battles. Mainly because most of your pilots were either off in 0.0 fighting JQA with Imperium or docked in Orvolle. I fail to see how this reflects badly on us.
If you want to chuck baseless flames at us, please start a new thread so that we don't ruin this one for everyone else. ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |

Justin Cody
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Posted - 2005.03.27 00:07:00 -
[106]
/me declares war on the forum
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.03.27 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida There were no epic battles. Mainly because most of your pilots were either off in 0.0 fighting JQA with Imperium or docked in Orvolle. I fail to see how this reflects badly on us.
If you want to chuck baseless flames at us, please start a new thread so that we don't ruin this one for everyone else.
We weren't fighting JQA qith Imperium (they didn't exist) and we only stayed docked because our few pilots that were on didn't feel like taking on your 20 ships that endlessly camped our station. Although you guys did have a strange fear of PF-346...
This thread was ruined from the start anyways.
I was just correcting people's misconceptions about your organization. I have no clue about your PVP abilities, just that you excel in blob or run tactics. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.03.27 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Julien Derida on 27/03/2005 00:31:04 Obviously I meant the corps that went on to form Imperium. I thought that would be self-evident. I believe MF were involved in the big fleet battles against JQA in VV-VCR. At least thats what some of your pilots told us...
We were hired to prevent MF from pursuing any Empire wars. Funnily enough, PF (being 0.0) wasn't really of much interest to us.
I'm not going to respond to your blob & run rubbish, because you have already made it clear that your going just going to keep repeating it without providing any evidence. Now please start a new thread if you want to continue this.
Edit: I still find it laughable that you claim that other peoples opinions, which they have formed through regular combat with us, are 'misconceptions' compared to your opinion which is formed from virtually zero experience. ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |

Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.27 01:49:00 -
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Maybe the good part of EVE is that we¦ll never find out wich corp is best. The anoying part is that repeatingly every 2 weeks we have alts of certain corps opening these topics "who¦s best?"...how comes???
A good pvp-corp has a killboard that represents their worth in combat. Killboards are important to get good mercanairy jobs and a pvp-corp needs reputation to get good jobs. So the next altchar that wants to know who¦s best should simply surf the different killboards to find out.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.03.27 02:45:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Sun Ra on 27/03/2005 02:47:29
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Lifewire Where do i find the G-killboard? I heard you did a lot of destruction to BOB - can we see this?
Our Killboard is not yet official, cause we still have no losses-list implemented.
We had some fun fights against BoB, yes. But "lots of destruction" is a bit exaggerated.
And i totally agree with dbp here. If we set back our stadnings to 0,0 immediately we could go on a killing-spree against miners.
But that is not our gameplay neither our philosophy.
And its not challenging either...
Yup its alot easier for those who can shoot prety much anyone to have a good pilot/kill ratio
tbh the whole things abit pointless =]
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sutty
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Posted - 2005.03.27 08:19:00 -
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MY E-PEEN IS BIGGER THEN YOUR E-PEEN OK ?
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2005.03.27 09:58:00 -
[112]
Your altchar?
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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2005.03.27 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida Edited by: Julien Derida on 27/03/2005 00:31:04 Obviously I meant the corps that went on to form Imperium. I thought that would be self-evident. I believe MF were involved in the big fleet battles against JQA in VV-VCR.
2005.01.06 23:09:00
Victim: Domnhal II Corporation: Mercenary Forces Destroyed Type: Blackbird Solar System: VV-VCR System Security Level: 0.0
Yeah, MF were there. Damn, what a day that was... 
/Ben
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:11:00 -
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Locked for offtopic, please dont create 'who is the best' type threads they usually end this way. 
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:13:00 -
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Having fought with or against most of the former xCA, SE, and XF, as well as Huzzah and CVA, I can only speak from this experience. The only organisations I have been impressed with their performance in combat is those found in Mercenary Coalition. The only organisations I have been impressed with their performance on a strategical plane is found in Xetic leadership and CVA leadership.
These are an outtake of corporations that behave and have gained my respect from combat situations: Celts Pie Inc. Rus
Disclaimer: strategy does not equal generating most kills, and generating most kills does not equal strategy. Xetic does a very good strategical job in the MC war they are having right now, and I can only express my sympathy to CYVOK and Conram that some pilots (names omitted) refuse to acknowledge that they need to be alert of danger. Of Evol and mOo and some other high-profile corporations I have too little experience to throughly express myself. I am not easily impressed, and those mentioned here I salute. --
If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |
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