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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.03.24 13:49:00 -
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wouldnt that be cool?
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Bad'Boy wouldnt that be cool?
We had something like that a long time ago when you could bribe agents to talk to Concord for you 
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:18:00 -
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Then concord bribed the agents to stop doing it. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:18:00 -
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Ah...those were the days. Wasn't it like 100,000 per 0.1 standing or 1.0 standing? It was pretty cheap if I recall.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:26:00 -
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What about the same cost as what a Rat gives one person in security status ?
Example: 1.5 Mill gives you .2 Increase... Its costs you 1.5 mill plus some mulitiplier depending on how LOW your security status is.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Originally by: Bad'Boy wouldnt that be cool?
We had something like that a long time ago when you could bribe agents to talk to Concord for you 
can we have it back then=? its realy boring to shoot NPC, I would rather shoot/ransom ppl(in empire) , get isk from it and pay a part to agent/concord to raise my sec status again...
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:35:00 -
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this is a better idea then the gett a sec raise for free, but it should not come cheap something like 5 - 10 mil for a 0.1 (which is still cheap considering if you destroy a ship with a lot of tech2/naed stuff or a hauler full of zyd..youll make a load more) having it at that price should keep most priates and resonable carebears happy _____
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:38:00 -
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Whatever it would be it would be nice if it adjusted for inflation.
1mil isk 3 months from release is really nothing now...
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:12:00 -
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perhaps money spent to increase sec staus could be placed in a "save the carebear fund" ?
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: slothe perhaps money spent to increase sec staus could be placed in a "save the carebear fund" ?

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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:20:00 -
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Hmmm, I do think that would be good to bring back, just not so expensive, maybe 2 or 3 mil per .5 sec status brought back or something. Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |

Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:24:00 -
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Have just one in game ....
... and have it in Yulai. ______________________________________________
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Namarus
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:33:00 -
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I think it would be a great way to remove isk out of the economy. Nothing to see here .... move along. |

Arondor
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Posted - 2005.03.24 16:53:00 -
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is it just me or do people who pirated their way to low security status whine alot about the known consequences of their actions? you made a choice, deal with it...
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Yevad
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Posted - 2005.03.24 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Arondor is it just me or do people who pirated their way to low security status whine alot about the known consequences of their actions? you made a choice, deal with it...
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Virago
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Posted - 2005.03.24 17:03:00 -
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OMG....
Anything else you Carebear Pirates wanna whine about?
Gee, thats a great idea....then you can take griefing to a new level. Pod a bunch of newbies, and then buy back your security status.

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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Arondor is it just me or do people who pirated their way to low security status whine alot about the known consequences of their actions? you made a choice, deal with it...
Firstly, being so wise, I am sure you know that this used to be a game feature until castor? As in fact did a 0.1 sec increase per day. These things were removed from the game. I know that bribing a few concord agents could get your sec up pretty quickly (As could running missions for them), but balancing would have been better than removal. The 0.1 sec a day increase was fine though - it would take a long time to fix your sec that way, much longer than npc'ing fixes it now.
Also remember that there are plenty of 'innocent' players out there with bad sec (maybe from blasting an ore thief, or hunting a pirate), and they would benefit equally by some other way to fix sec than just npc'ing.
I know plenty of players 'trapped' by their sec rating. Unable to face the grind of chaining npc's to repair it, they no longer even bother - and just gank with no concern for the penalty.
Not being able to fix sec in a resonable, predictable and dependable way is leading to more ganking - the very thing carebears moan about the most.
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Virago
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:03:00 -
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Quote: I know plenty of players 'trapped' by their sec rating. Unable to face the grind of chaining npc's to repair it, they no longer even bother - and just gank with no concern for the penalty.
Not being able to fix sec in a resonable, predictable and dependable way is leading to more ganking - the very thing carebears moan about the most.
blahahaha
/pauses
BLAHAHAHAH
Avon is that the best that you and your Jedi Griefer wisdom can conjure up? My heart just goes out to all those griefers stuck in systems preying on the weak.
I'm sure CCP had a VERY good reason for removing the "Buy-A-SecurityRating" feature. Probably because griefers abused this to no end. I think making griefers hunt down NPC's for hours on end is a good deterrent for evil doers.
It just sounds like you Griefers want all the Griefer Reward with NO Griefer Risk.
Wow....now where have I heard similar statements?
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H0ot
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:16:00 -
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.. A better solution would be that if you are considered an outlaw by CONCORD, you no longer get ISK for killing NPC pirates.
Why would CONCORD cash in bounties collected by people who are wanted Pirates themselves? Makes no sense to me. Instead there should be a plea-bargaining system to reduce their sentence (i.e. Security Status)
So if you drop below -5.0, instead of getting money for killing NPC's, you get a security status increase multiplier, based on how much ISK you would have gotten, had you not been considered an outlaw. (-5.0 or lower.)
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Virago
Quote: I know plenty of players 'trapped' by their sec rating. Unable to face the grind of chaining npc's to repair it, they no longer even bother - and just gank with no concern for the penalty.
Not being able to fix sec in a resonable, predictable and dependable way is leading to more ganking - the very thing carebears moan about the most.
blahahaha
/pauses
BLAHAHAHAH
Avon is that the best that you and your Jedi Griefer wisdom can conjure up? My heart just goes out to all those griefers stuck in systems preying on the weak.
I'm sure CCP had a VERY good reason for removing the "Buy-A-SecurityRating" feature. Probably because griefers abused this to no end. I think making griefers hunt down NPC's for hours on end is a good deterrent for evil doers.
It just sounds like you Griefers want all the Griefer Reward with NO Griefer Risk.
Wow....now where have I heard similar statements?
I think you are completely missing the point, and as you are probably more intelligent than your post indicates I can only assume it is on purpose.
If you want people to stop griefing you have to provide them with a viable alternative. I used to pirate (in the romantic way) until it became impossible to effectively control my sec status. I would return to it in a flash if it was more rewarding than just ganking, but as things stand there is no reason not to gank. The penalty is the same either way, and with game mechanics as they stand destroying a ship quickly is far more likely to return a reward than trying to ransom it.
It all boils down to what you would rather encounter, a ganker or a pirate. If you want to meet pirates it has to be viable to work that way, and if you are unwilling to see that happen you have no place moaning if you get ganked.
Anyway, none of this matters to me, my sec status is verging on the carebear, but it does effect the game in general and glossing over it with a 'whining griefer' reply does nothing to improve the game.
If I want to kill people now I just declare war on their corp and go kill them anywhere. I can extort an entire corp in place of ransoming a single ship. Sure I would rather pirate, but as the ability to do so is constantly 'patched out' because of people making ill thought out arguements such as yours, it isn't going to happen any time soon. Can you really say that is better than me plying my trade in low sec space where people know the risks and choose to be there?
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Arondor is it just me or do people who pirated their way to low security status whine alot about the known consequences of their actions? you made a choice, deal with it...
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Virago
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:33:00 -
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I've often suggested some kind of Player classes, with some bonuses etc, and by choosing a class you have to stay that class for a set amount of days (30days maybe)
Pirate Miner Pirate Hunter Trader Researcher Production
etc.
I'm just not that creative in coming up with the details.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: H0ot .. A better solution would be that if you are considered an outlaw by CONCORD, you no longer get ISK for killing NPC pirates.
Why would CONCORD cash in bounties collected by people who are wanted Pirates themselves? Makes no sense to me. Instead there should be a plea-bargaining system to reduce their sentence (i.e. Security Status)
So if you drop below -5.0, instead of getting money for killing NPC's, you get a security status increase multiplier, based on how much ISK you would have gotten, had you not been considered an outlaw. (-5.0 or lower.)
I have a bounty and a low sec status, but I still have a good standing with Concord. Just because other players hate me doesn't mean Concord will fall for their lies about my good character.
Besides, Concord just want people to do their dirty work for them, they don't care who. ______________________________________________
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Virago
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:38:00 -
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Avon, players Gank, because they want to Gank. This will not stop mindless ganking.
Quote: In fact, we still have a spare slot ... wanna dance?
You need instructions on where to find that? Its under Corporation button, on the thingy on the left, and then under Warz....
Whats the matter? Can't take a player throwing your pffft back in your face? Would you rather me use my alt? 
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Virago Avon, players Gank, because they want to Gank. This will not stop mindless ganking.
Quote: In fact, we still have a spare slot ... wanna dance?
You need instructions on where to find that? Its under Corporation button, on the thingy on the left, and then under Warz....
Whats the matter? Can't take a player throwing your pffft back in your face? Would you rather me use my alt? 
I agree it won't stop mindless ganking, but not all people currently ganking are mindless. ______________________________________________
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Virago Avon, players Gank, because they want to Gank. This will not stop mindless ganking.
Quote: In fact, we still have a spare slot ... wanna dance?
You need instructions on where to find that? Its under Corporation button, on the thingy on the left, and then under Warz....
Whats the matter? Can't take a player throwing your pffft back in your face? Would you rather me use my alt? 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.03.24 18:48:00 -
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YES i love the idea .. omgwtfsigned0rz ------------------
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.03.24 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 24/03/2005 19:30:28
Originally by: Avon Have just one in game ....
... and have it in Yulai.
that would be quite fun, pods racing to see who could get docked before getting freeze dried 
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.03.24 19:39:00 -
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Which is why this is a pointless thread...Pay to get sec status back up...      oh ****...   not again....  I cant stop  Please no more...     
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.03.24 20:18:00 -
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yay, so many carabear flamers in this tread..scary
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