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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
299
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:07:00 -
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Anslo wrote: [ Where in there does it say about shutting people up about their opinion on gameplay? You really suck are this. I'm saying people should can the elitist attitudes.
Is English your 1st language, because you just did it again.
Quote: The fact that you'd be a proponent of such attitudes tells everyone everything they ever need to know about you, an anti-progress sad little man trying to justify his position poorly. I feel bad for you.
Sadly, I know people like you in real life, for whom anyone who doesn't agree to the "proper" extent get labeled "anti".
If you were a more honest person you would see thats not the cause, I hold cautios progressive views about EVE, not the reckless and unrealistic ones you do.
What people like you never get (in a game or out) is that happiness comes from being able to enjoy what you have now, and having the ability to recognize that even if it does change positively, that's just a bonus, it was already a great situation to begin with.
You hold the unreasonable position that people actually liking EVe as is is not only anti-progess but is holding the game back from "being more awesome". I'm sorry, that's stupid, that's just trying to find someone to blame for CCPs slow pace of change. i think it's proper for CCP to display some caution, a great game is a fragile thing.
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Glad you think stagnation is amazing.
I swear you sound like every liberal i have the misfortune of dealing with, they tend to think that just because things aren't changing at breakneck speeds the situation is "stagnant". It's not, is slowly and cautiously moving forward, as it should be.
I honestly feel sorry for you and your type (and i'm not kidding or trying to win some super awesome forum points) because I'n my experience, people like you are never happy for long. You always think the grass is greener on the other side, you think the next big thing will be IT but get tired of it before the sun sets and you think everyone else is stupid because they're not in the same hurry you're always in.
This is in contrast to people like me, are are very happy with the current state of affairs (even if there are some concerns about general direction) and don't want reckless people to screw up a great thing.
There is probably no help for you. |

Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:40:00 -
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Why is this thread still alive... |

Bane Necran
544
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:40:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:We arn't asking to nerf highsec, just buff the risk back up a bit. Get a bit of fun back into highsec.
Right after they remove local in 0.0, so people can't farm more isk there in even greater safety.
Just imagine small groups of ships seeking out lone miners and ratters in 0.0 and destroying them. I'd love to see that kind of fun brought to 0.0 for once. Why is it people only think of making victims out of hisec people? Is this game really rough for everyone, or just them? "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
78
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:46:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:You don't pvp. Sometimes, you spare enough from your wallet to fit a frigate and see what all the fuss is about, but you don't pvp. You run missions and farm plexes in your stabbed Incursus, but you don't pvp. Your whole reason for existence in this game is to see that number in the wallet window grow larger and larger.
You're not fooling anyone.
That is you big babies problem. You are narrow-minded. Not all pvp has to consist of the skilless ship combat in EVE, stupid. High sec is high sec for a reason.
You want to play a full loot game with no safety zones that is actaully demanding of player skills, you play Darkfall: UW comming out next month. EVE ship combat "pvp" is a joke to everyone who doesn't play EVE and many who do. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
236
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:00:00 -
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I think EVE's biggest challenge is a true drive towards ship-to-ship combat for solo players.
The whole "catch me if I'm AFK" a.k.a. combat probes/local is quite boring for both prey and predator. They prey knows if they get caught it is probably a lost fight, and hence, they need a way to slow down the attacker. The attacker also needs some assurance that the prey can't easily run away at the first sign of danger.
Imagine something along those lines: they prey is guaranteed to remain inside the complex until two things happen: objective is completed or a specific timer expires. The predator can easily find the location, but cannot enter until they "outsmart" the prey while the clock is ticking. Metaphorically, let's call it a "game of chess". It no longer matters if you are prey or predator, all that matters is who is the best "chess player".
It's a similar idea with suicide ganking; the prey knows beforehand where the target is. Again, what we need is some sort of non-AFK defense mechanisms which will give the upper-hand to the best player.
When I PVP, I don't want to win because I caught my targets off-guard but because I out-played them. This only exists currently in a honorable 1v1, yet the game offers no incentive for these things to happen. The game also provides the wrong tools to both prey and predator, which results in a game of mental endurance rather than intelligence.
I'm not saying the surprise effect should be removed either, as it is quite often a deciding factor in PVP. I should just not be the only deciding factor. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1957
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:01:00 -
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Andski wrote:baltec1 wrote:We arn't asking to nerf highsec, just buff the risk. The problem is that hisec bears hide behind mechanics meant to protect actual newbies and demand that CCP give them high-reward PvE activities commensurate with their skillpoint p. much |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
785
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:14:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:F'elch wrote:Why all the hate for high sec? You know how I use high sec? I run missions there and I sell my stuff there so I can spend the ISK on ships and then go PVP with them in low sec and sometimes in null if I feel like I definitely want to lose my ship instead of just maybe. Then, when I run out of ISK I go back to high sec to get some more dosh.
Bold is mine as it basically answers your question. You make money in High Sec and then go blow stuff up in Low/Null. What you SHOULD be doing is making money in Low/Null and then blowing stuff up in Low/Null. This is the ideal world:
You mean gank gangs, not pvp gangs? I'm not shitposting. |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
445
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:34:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: you don't pvp.
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: What you SHOULD be doing is making money in Low/Null and then blowing stuff up in Low/Null. This is the ideal world:
OP the answer was in the first 2 replies. It is simply a case of other players trying to dictate what you do in game.
Don't try to understand it, they don't understand the concept of free will as they have had there entire lives managed and don't know what to do if someone is not telling them to go here and do this.
It is pure jealousy that you can do whatever you want when they can't. EVERYBODY KNOWS |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
299
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:40:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: you don't pvp.
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: What you SHOULD be doing is making money in Low/Null and then blowing stuff up in Low/Null. This is the ideal world:
OP the answer was in the first 2 replies. It is simply a case of other players trying to dictate what you do in game. Don't try to understand it, they don't understand the concept of free will as they have had there entire lives managed and don't know what to do if someone is not telling them to go here and do this. It is pure jealousy that you can do whatever you want when they can't.
I really don't know why people hide under the "omg they are trying to dictate my game" blanket. I don't see anyone doing that,I see CCP alway encouraging people to experiance the best parts of the game, the parts where players make the rules and the content.
the rest of your post is pure BS. Why would people who like to kill things and live in space where they can kill things with some silly npc police popping up be jealous of people living in a part of space where everyone comes from (everyone's game begins in high sec) and anyone can live in?
The whole idea is dumb. |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
445
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:52:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Simetraz wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: you don't pvp.
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: What you SHOULD be doing is making money in Low/Null and then blowing stuff up in Low/Null. This is the ideal world:
OP the answer was in the first 2 replies. It is simply a case of other players trying to dictate what you do in game. Don't try to understand it, they don't understand the concept of free will as they have had there entire lives managed and don't know what to do if someone is not telling them to go here and do this. It is pure jealousy that you can do whatever you want when they can't. I really don't know why people hide under the "omg they are trying to dictate my game" blanket. I don't see anyone doing that,I see CCP alway encouraging people to experiance the best parts of the game, the parts where players make the rules and the content. the rest of your post is pure BS. Why would people who like to kill things and live in space where they can kill things with some silly npc police popping up be jealous of people living in a part of space where everyone comes from (everyone's game begins in high sec) and anyone can live in? The whole idea is dumb.
SO why even care if a person decides they want to kill NPC's all day. They are 40 jumps away and the odds of you even seeing them in the same system are slim to none. Who cares what he or she does. THe whole I hate carebears I hate Pvp'r is a complete laugh. Get a life, go play the game and stop worrying about the scary carebears and pay more attention to the red on your six. EVERYBODY KNOWS |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1818
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Posted - 2012.10.18 17:56:00 -
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Jim Hazard wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Or you'd end up with people communicating with eachother to organise themselves into gank-proof mission fleets. Perhaps you're right though. Communication and co-operation is outside the realm of many people's comfort zones and we know how people hate being forced out of their comfort zone. Most likely people who do not want to live high sec are exactly the people like F`elch who play a multiplayer game solo. Those people seem not to value the difference between a multiplayer game and a single player game. Why play a game like eve when you do not interact with other people. If you just live in this universe and do not care about other players around you and do not want to socialize with them its no different from being surrounded only by NPCs. And no matter how many arguments you will come up with, they will never admit that their view on EvE (a multi player game) is plain wrong.
What's wrong with playing a multiplayer game solo?
The only thing that can be wrong with any playing motive is to try to foist it on someone else.
Not having a value for the difference? What? Why should anybody care?
Must be election season in the USA because everybody wants to mind everybody elses business.
I like playing solo in this game because people are almost as smart as sleepers and nearly half as predictable. It's because of this "in the box" thinking that your post displayed that makes solo play so easy. If you write from the PVPer perspective, a class of player that constantly touts "This is a sanbox!!!1!!", then how can you push the "this is such and such type of game therefore you must play it such and such way"?
Your comments reek of contradiction. Please reconsider. Nobody is SUPPOSED to do anything particular. Sandbox, right?
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
785
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:03:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Jim Hazard wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Or you'd end up with people communicating with eachother to organise themselves into gank-proof mission fleets. Perhaps you're right though. Communication and co-operation is outside the realm of many people's comfort zones and we know how people hate being forced out of their comfort zone. Most likely people who do not want to live high sec are exactly the people like F`elch who play a multiplayer game solo. Those people seem not to value the difference between a multiplayer game and a single player game. Why play a game like eve when you do not interact with other people. If you just live in this universe and do not care about other players around you and do not want to socialize with them its no different from being surrounded only by NPCs. And no matter how many arguments you will come up with, they will never admit that their view on EvE (a multi player game) is plain wrong. What's wrong with playing a multiplayer game solo? .............. Must be election season in the USA because everybody wants to mind everybody elses business.
It doesn't seem like you like to play multiplayer games really. Perhaps a real solo game, would go better with your solo play style. I'm not shitposting. |

Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
74
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:08:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Kinis Deren wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:Kinis Deren wrote:Arkon Olacar wrote:Despite the endless stream of tears from high sec carebears, all most null sec players want to rebalance high and null is a x0.8 to be applied to all high sec bounties, and a x1.2 multiplier to be applied to all null sec bounties, to fix the relative risk/reward ratio between the two. I have no problem with people wanting to semi-afk run missions or whatever for isk, they just shouldnt receive similar rewards to people who have to deal with cloaky campingfags 23/7.
And yes those numbers were pulled out of my ass, but you get the general idea. No. The null sec isk faucet needs a nerf. Cloaky AFK = no risk Have you ever lived in null? even a few days, maybe? no? LOL, ship poasting to parry the argument I see - try another tired old meme.  Nope, not lived in null, still learning the game in hi / low sec in which I see none blues in local all the time without making a mess in my pants or sending out Jabber pings - can you say the same?  Oh, maybe you missed the CSM minutes earlier this year in which the following was stated: CCP Soundwave: GÇ£I can, with virtual certainty, say that this December weGÇÖre going do something about cap and supercap presence in anomalies. That is the biggest faucet we have right now.GÇ¥ ~deal with it~ Yes I know what Soundwave said and I fully agree with him, your point?
My point is that my original points still stand, despite your efforts to negate my opinion with your e-peen waving ... now shall we get back to discussing the topic? |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
300
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:27:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:
SO why even care if a person decides they want to kill NPC's all day. They are 40 jumps away and the odds of you even seeing them in the same system are slim to none. Who cares what he or she does. THe whole I hate carebears I hate Pvp'r is a complete laugh. Get a life, go play the game and stop worrying about the scary carebears and pay more attention to the red on your six.
I kill npcs all day lol. I don't care what someone else does.
BUT, I know i'm in a multiplayer game, and some people will try to attack me if they can. I accept this as part of the game and don't complain about it. Many in high sec do complain about it.
This is the point, claiming people are jealous or what not is stupid. Some of us do care about the health of the game, and some like me don't like risk-averse people.
We're not telling anyone to stop or to do anything else. We're simply pointing a finger at them and laughing our asses off at how weak they are because they play a pvp-centric game and whine when people try to pvp them.. There is a difference
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
931
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:38:00 -
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rodyas wrote: It doesn't seem like you like to play multiplayer games really. Perhaps a real solo game, would go better with your solo play style.
It's a SANDBOX.
The is plenty of stuff to occupy the solo player. Even being a Market Queen doesn't qualify as utterly solo. They depend on 'others' to buy from them on the Market. |

TheSkeptic
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:24:00 -
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rodyas wrote: It doesn't seem like you like to play multiplayer games really. Perhaps a real solo game, would go better with your solo play style.
You're also failing to consider other aspects of EVE beyond the pew pew, things like the meta game, psychological warfare.
Simply denying you the pew pew against those soft juicy PVE targets that are just out of reach to the point you come to the forums and shed tears.
They be winning. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5201
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:54:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:No.
The null sec isk faucet needs a nerf.
Cloaky AFK = no risk
Kinis Deren wrote:Nope, not lived in null, still learning the game in hi / low sec
lmao This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:00:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Alice Saki wrote:I saw a Bear once, it was stealing a picnic basket ^_^ This approach has served me well in dealing with bears in EVE over the years.
Are you the bear in that video ? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1820
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:58:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Jim Hazard wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Or you'd end up with people communicating with eachother to organise themselves into gank-proof mission fleets. Perhaps you're right though. Communication and co-operation is outside the realm of many people's comfort zones and we know how people hate being forced out of their comfort zone. Most likely people who do not want to live high sec are exactly the people like F`elch who play a multiplayer game solo. Those people seem not to value the difference between a multiplayer game and a single player game. Why play a game like eve when you do not interact with other people. If you just live in this universe and do not care about other players around you and do not want to socialize with them its no different from being surrounded only by NPCs. And no matter how many arguments you will come up with, they will never admit that their view on EvE (a multi player game) is plain wrong. What's wrong with playing a multiplayer game solo? .............. Must be election season in the USA because everybody wants to mind everybody elses business. It doesn't seem like you like to play multiplayer games really. Perhaps a real solo game, would go better with your solo play style.
But I take great pleasure in basing out of highsec, trespassing past the gank pipelines and bubble camps, and coming back with phat loot, all the while the nullbears and lowsec ganksters come to the forums crying from lack of targets.
I would not get that in a single player game. 
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Karrl Tian
Star-Trackers
10
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:59:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Must be election season in the USA because everybody wants to mind everybody elses business.
Romney=Nullsec player
Obama=Highsec player
Ralph Nader=Wormhole player
Hillary Clinton=Lowsec player |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
843
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:33:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:You don't pvp. Sometimes, you spare enough from your wallet to fit a frigate and see what all the fuss is about, but you don't pvp. You run missions and farm plexes in your stabbed Incursus, but you don't pvp.
When he's missioning, running plexes or whatever he's competing against another player doing it also, so despite your misconception of PVP, he does pvp. He just does it differently from you and your comments like this one clearly show you have absolutely no idea what's pvp other than shoot stuff. Your inability to understand and accept this form of pvp is just staggering.
Quote:You're not fooling anyone.
Indeed...
brb |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1362
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:36:00 -
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Claiming that missions are pvp is just an excuse bears use to skip a few steps on the hardman ladder. Does doing missions result in microinteraction? Sure it does. The bear's presence affects the market, no matter how slightly. It is indirect competition for wealth, but one with practically no risk attached. The worst thing that can happen is that the bear will make a bit less money if market conditions are unfavorable for ISK, LP, or loot/mineral gains. I know, I know, the bear can lose ships during missions, but that's more or less irrelevant because of how static the content is. As long as you have the recommended setup, losing a ship would imply that the bear is asleep, and that doesn't equate to risk. The kind of pvp that we're talking about when we mention the term stems from risk of loss, not lack of gain.
Running missions is no more pvp than looting the wreck of a dead bear who just scooped and salvaged the wrecks of the NPCs he killed is pve. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
284
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:41:00 -
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Oh look, it's this thread again |

Takashi X2
Blades of the Exiled Angel
1
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:51:00 -
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F'elch wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:[quote=F'elch]Why all the hate for high sec? You know how I use high sec? I run missions there and I sell my stuff there so I can spend the ISK on ships and then go PVP with them in low sec and sometimes in null if I feel like I definitely want to lose my ship instead of just maybe. Then, when I run out of ISK I go back to high sec to get some more dosh.
I agree with everyone that FW is broken. Too much ISK coming from this. But low sec needs better income for the risk involved if people are going to go there to grind.
Not my place to say it really but FW generates no isk although it can be argued that it helps increase inflation. It just puts isk through the spinner faster. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
819
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:57:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:Romney=Nullsec player
Obama=Highsec player
Ralph Nader Jill Stein=Wormhole player
Hillary Clinton Gary Johnson=Lowsec player
Nothing Found |

BobFromMarketing
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
6
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:33:00 -
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F'elch wrote:Why all the hate for high sec? You know how I use high sec? I run missions there and I sell my stuff there so I can spend the ISK on ships and then go PVP with them in low sec and sometimes in null if I feel like I definitely want to lose my ship instead of just maybe. Then, when I run out of ISK I go back to high sec to get some more dosh.
Also at the moment I am farming FW for more money but we all know that little gravy train will soon reach its last stop.
If high sec got nerfed, it would be a lot harder for me to get the green I need to fund the PVP we love and that this game is really about. Making it take longer to earn that dolla will only mean I have to grind more for less, and lose ships less often. We need taergets right? And targets require ISK to buy ships so you can blow them up.
OK, I know there are those who just stay in high sec and horde their stuff and faction fit their mission tengus and what have you but no matter how much you nerf high sec the risk adverse will still remain there. No amount of stick will get them into low but maybe the right type of carrot.
Anyway, I'm a casual player. No time for null and the logistics of living there so ISK grinding there is not an option. And to be honest I CBA with CTA, killboard etc so it is not for me.
All I want to do is PVP and grind as little as possible to make that happen. High sec ISK sources are important to help me and others like me fund that lifestyle so please don't nerf them.
Do regale us with your many ventures into the world of Eve PvP. I spent 20 minutes trying to find a single killmail involving you in something other than a newbie frigate but was unable :( |

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
809
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Posted - 2012.10.19 02:07:00 -
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nerfing highsec in any way hurts pvp more then helping it, if you remove lvl 4s from highsec for example, people won't risk it in low, they will run level 3s instead, no level 3s? then they will mine or run lvl 2s.
what OP does is what a lot of people do.
also if you want people to mission and mine and stuff in lowsec, you can blame the "pvpers" if you didn't try to kill every ship you saw then people would go there, then you could kill the big prizes
example, you live in low and notice a raven runs mission in your system, then salvages them... you have a few options ( though most "pvpers" always go for the kill) you could try ganking him when he tries to haul loot out of lowsec, potentially killing a orca or freighter. you could buy the stuff he is salvaging, he is helping the market in your little lowsec system. you could wait until he gets a better missioning ship, maybe gank him if he upgrades to a CNR? or what most pvpers do,zomgsomethingtokill.
if you want lowsec to be target rich, stop killing people unless its worth it. bounty hunting probably won't help with it but maybe it will. there could always be the epic, low sec status = no docking in low/highsec, that would be fun. |

BobFromMarketing
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
6
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Posted - 2012.10.19 03:36:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:nerfing highsec in any way hurts pvp more then helping it, if you remove lvl 4s from highsec for example, people won't risk it in low, they will run level 3s instead, no level 3s? then they will mine or run lvl 2s.
what OP does is what a lot of people do.
also if you want people to mission and mine and stuff in lowsec, you can blame the "pvpers" if you didn't try to kill every ship you saw then people would go there, then you could kill the big prizes
example, you live in low and notice a raven runs mission in your system, then salvages them... you have a few options ( though most "pvpers" always go for the kill) you could try ganking him when he tries to haul loot out of lowsec, potentially killing a orca or freighter. you could buy the stuff he is salvaging, he is helping the market in your little lowsec system. you could wait until he gets a better missioning ship, maybe gank him if he upgrades to a CNR? or what most pvpers do,zomgsomethingtokill.
if you want lowsec to be target rich, stop killing people unless its worth it. bounty hunting probably won't help with it but maybe it will. there could always be the epic, low sec status = no docking in low/highsec, that would be fun.
Kind of a weak troll friend. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4943
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:47:00 -
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F'elch wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Or you'd end up with people communicating with eachother to organise themselves into gank-proof mission fleets. Perhaps you're right though. Communication and co-operation is outside the realm of many people's comfort zones and we know how people hate being forced out of their comfort zone. I can understand this sentiment. I can't be arsed to team up with others. I can't be arsed to talk to the other players while in-game (with very few exceptions). I also don't take this game seriously enough to invest any real time and effort into it.
Well just maybe you'd get a bit more involved with the game if you did have some genuine incentive to talk to other players and there was some neccessity to actually pay attention to what you're doing.
What you've just said neatly illustrates the entire problem people like me have with high-sec: it lures people into a lucrative, safe but boring lifestyle that eventually bores them out of the game.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

F'elch
Wall Street Trading
33
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Posted - 2012.10.19 08:03:00 -
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BobFromMarketing wrote:F'elch wrote:Why all the hate for high sec? You know how I use high sec? I run missions there and I sell my stuff there so I can spend the ISK on ships and then go PVP with them in low sec and sometimes in null if I feel like I definitely want to lose my ship instead of just maybe. Then, when I run out of ISK I go back to high sec to get some more dosh.
Also at the moment I am farming FW for more money but we all know that little gravy train will soon reach its last stop.
If high sec got nerfed, it would be a lot harder for me to get the green I need to fund the PVP we love and that this game is really about. Making it take longer to earn that dolla will only mean I have to grind more for less, and lose ships less often. We need taergets right? And targets require ISK to buy ships so you can blow them up.
OK, I know there are those who just stay in high sec and horde their stuff and faction fit their mission tengus and what have you but no matter how much you nerf high sec the risk adverse will still remain there. No amount of stick will get them into low but maybe the right type of carrot.
Anyway, I'm a casual player. No time for null and the logistics of living there so ISK grinding there is not an option. And to be honest I CBA with CTA, killboard etc so it is not for me.
All I want to do is PVP and grind as little as possible to make that happen. High sec ISK sources are important to help me and others like me fund that lifestyle so please don't nerf them. Do regale us with your many ventures into the world of Eve PvP. I spent 20 minutes trying to find a single killmail involving you in something other than a newbie frigate but was unable :( You must have missed the post where I said this isn't my main character, just my trading alt. Good use of twenty minutes of your time there!
I can't really understand all the hate for people who use high sec to make ISK. It seems logical to me that you would do it in the least risky way possible so you can do it quickly and efficiently. And like I said, I do it so I can lose ships, normally facing overwhelming odds and tolerating pages of smack in local.
It's a shame that when you are flying an interceptor your opponent feels the need to call in HAC/Recon support. I guess that's how the hardcore PVPers roll. |
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