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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:12:00 -
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GET A ******* LIFE YOU GORRAM NECKBEARD!!!!
Just kidding, keep up the good work, Skipper! o7 |
Ghazu
221
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:45:00 -
[62] - Quote
doing god's work. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:57:00 -
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Spam?
I thought this was part of the new crime and punishment.
"Yea, I did six months in Jita. I don't shoot miners no more. I'm clean now"
But on a less serious note, I' sure 100 is about 5 times the accurate number. Considering how often I need to update my block list, I'm sure it's 20 guys rolling accounts. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
837
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:30:00 -
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Hey, I'm on the list
;D
I just spend too much time there. I also sometimes sell legit contracts in Jita. So I'm kind of guilty of spamming my contracts every few minutes. You can check my contract history to see that they aren't scams.
I might have to cut back on talking so much in Jita, now...
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Cpt Arareb
Ideal Machine Academy
The Ideal Machine
34
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:02:00 -
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Nice job Sir keep up and maibe ccp will do something about it, I can only hope |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
201
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:07:00 -
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I don't get it, one time in Rens I was trying to scam. I was reposting the same lines over and over every 4 min,not exactly but as close as possible. Somebody reported me for spamming, and I was 'gagged' for 10 mintues by a gm 'for spam'. I sent all of 5-6 messages at 4 min intervals and I was gagged. Why cant half that attention be shown to Jita? |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
837
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:22:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:I don't get it, one time in Rens I was trying to scam. I was reposting the same lines over and over every 4 min,not exactly but as close as possible. Somebody reported me for spamming, and I was 'gagged' for 10 mintues by a gm 'for spam'. I sent all of 5-6 messages at 4 min intervals and I was gagged. Why cant half that attention be shown to Jita?
That does seem a bit over the top. But I'd just say it's obviously easier to gag the 1 person spamming in Rens.
When everyone expects Jita to be full of spam, and it's been that way for ages. It'd be a bit odd for CCP to suddenly turn around now and start using the heavy hand on Jita spam. |
Soon Shin
Caucasian Culture Club
Transmission Lost
167
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:58:00 -
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Everytime I consistently see the same person spamming some scam contract no matter what time of day. I wonder to myself, if this person has no life that he does this or this is a bot doing it for him.
If CCP doesn't want to lose them, I think a week ban on their account would be sufficient to deter them now they know that CCP is on to their little trick. Or perhaps a confiscation of isk or goods they have gained by using illegitimate methods.
Of course there are people who use trial accounts, which in that case I would be in favor of limiting the amount of spam a trial account can post in public communication. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
732
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:08:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:The OpEd answer is that CCP would never ban hammer a large percentage of their user base. Too much money to lose over a fairly minor irritant. Yeah, they might slam a few to "make a point" but not many.
Sure, you call 6200 paying accounts being banned a few?
Maybe you should stop posting without having some idea what you're posting about, no? 
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
186
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:12:00 -
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In the scam capital of EvE it's business as usual.  |
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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
411
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:16:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:The OpEd answer is that CCP would never ban hammer a large percentage of their user base. Too much money to lose over a fairly minor irritant. Yeah, they might slam a few to "make a point" but not many. Sure, you call 6200 paying accounts being banned a few? Maybe you should stop posting without having some idea what you're posting about, no? Maybe if you can't work out the difference between RMT having an impact on the coffers of CCP based on the PLEX alternative and Jita contract spammers then maybe you should disconnect your PC from the internet, bury it in a hole and cover it with quick dry cement, no?
Maybe you will stop posting for the common good as well, no?
WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal. |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries
Epsilon Fleet
143
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:40:00 -
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cool, now if only ccp took a look.
A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1828
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Posted - 2012.10.20 07:50:00 -
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great analyses. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
23
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:25:00 -
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Great job. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
7
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Posted - 2012.10.20 08:39:00 -
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CCP should follow guildwars2 example. Spammers and bots can't do anything in that game. I. Thanks Chribba for another excellent post. |
thekiller2002us
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
106
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Posted - 2012.10.20 09:10:00 -
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SON, THAT IS SICK YO!
I dont know how you did it- whenever i'm in Jita the first thing that I do is get me some of that sweet Caldari A** up in 4,4
I'm with Brick on this one- make thouse carebearing b******s squeal.. |
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2012.10.20 09:15:00 -
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/sarcasm on...
CCP's records show nothing.
/sarcasm off... |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
5233
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Posted - 2012.10.20 13:33:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:The first question actually is not that at all. It would have to be is a macro that repeats a message in Jita once every minute or so a bot, or just a macro. Where's the line and is it bannable? My input here regards bot/macro.
I agree that what we see in Jita, is most likely defined as macro, a software that is dumb, doing the same thing in intervals - eg post something.
I chose to call it bot though, as essentially there are ones that stop posting after a scamtract is claimed pointing towards some intelligence behind the software - eg bot. But as I see it, macro is just the same as a bot but not using all features. So I just decided to call it bot rather than macro but in the big picture it's pretty much the same imo, a bot is just as bad as a macro in this case.
/c
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
64
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Posted - 2012.10.20 13:37:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Thor Kerrigan wrote:Do not ban spammers, simply "cloak-gag" them so they don't know they got gagged... and neither will we.
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Profit.
In-case someone realizes they got gagged unfairly, it is easily noticeable and correctable. This is EXACTLY how I would like to see it, stealth gag, they won't know, they will be paying, we will have less spam. I can def see this be a very good solution.
So there is a little evil streak in you Chribba, I like that. Good for you :)
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Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
124
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Posted - 2012.10.20 13:50:00 -
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30 Day Pilot's License Extension (PLEX) x 3 1.2b
It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
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Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
472
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Posted - 2012.10.20 14:24:00 -
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Confirming this thread is awesome. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
55
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Posted - 2012.10.20 14:46:00 -
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@Chribba
Quote:in my opinion this shows that spamming, with or without bots isn't being dealt with at all
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02291/__2291411b.jpg
Red Maiden: People actually play with WiS off? Why? It's really well done, and adds an excellent layer of immersion in the game. Plus, my character's ass is out of this world and I like looking at it. |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
622
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Posted - 2012.10.20 14:55:00 -
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really good read... but i dont think ccp will do anything to kill scam bots as they are ask sinks and not faucets... so ccp imo would rather go after mining and ratting bots instead...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point?
-áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Freezehunter
304
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Posted - 2012.10.20 17:40:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:really good read... but i dont think ccp will do anything to kill scam bots as they are isk sinks and not faucets... so ccp imo would rather go after mining and ratting bots instead...
Scammers are not ISK sinks because the money is still present in the economy, it just changes hands.
Your logic is ****.
Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Bobo Cindekela
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:26:00 -
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wtb visible indicator of how many people are blocking a speaker every time they speak
and a method to supress messages from speakers that are being blocked by N other people
You are about to engage in an arguement with a forum alt,-á this is your final warning. |
Braxus Deninard
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
48
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:39:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:Do not ban spammers, simply "cloak-gag" them so they don't know they got gagged... and neither will we.
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Profit.
In-case someone realizes they got gagged unfairly, it is easily noticeable and correctable.
This is such a good idea that it really should get a dev response. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
851
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:46:00 -
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Everything is said by Mr Chribba, nothing to add but a big +1
brb |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
356
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:14:00 -
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I suggest a contracts channel. No matter which channel you link a Contract in, (aside from maybe Private Contracts, or those linked in Corp or Alliance chat), it lands in that one, even if you don't have it open.
I probably said lol about 20 times in Jita local during that period too, though you'd probably have better info on that than my memory is likely to give.
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
356
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Posted - 2012.10.20 19:25:00 -
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What you should do, is check to see if the increment of the posting periods was the same for any characters, then take the graphs of their spoken lines and match them against each other to see if they start and stop on one, then move to another. Identify if they overlap or follow each other with activity that is.
If it's a program, chances are the time increment between posts is going to be the same for most, if not all instances of communication initiated by that program. Of course, time increments are probably easily changed, so it's not going to be identifiable unless they never change it.
Also, you could just see if any are comparable in terms of following one another, (i.e: no periods with overlapping communication between two different spammers), and a host of other possible means of analyzing the data.
Nice work by the way. I'm not sure your time investment is worth it, but it is interesting.
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Lord Distortion
20th Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.10.20 22:13:00 -
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Nail on the head but you used he hammer of proof. 
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