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XZeRo
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Posted - 2005.03.26 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: XZeRo on 26/03/2005 17:19:17
I found this on another thread on the internet:
http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html
That means TCPA is a computerchip that Shuts off your Access To:
1. your Right to change operating systems (Linux,mac os, winXP etc.)
2. your right to use your own Hardware.
3. your right to have your own music, video and other Stuff on your computer.
4. your right to change your hardware mecanics in your own computer.
and if your Current computer gets broken you cant buy a new one and replace it. you must go to the next computer Shop and buy a Brand new computer that has the new chip. you cant DL any Freeware, because it wont work on the Computer.
what is TCPA?
ò TCPA Stands for Trusted Computing Platform Alliance.
ò Founded by Compaq, HP, IBM, Intel og Microsoft.
ò Today there are over 150 Computer Companys in the orginization
With or Against TCPA:
ò If you like this. all you gotta do is Wait.
ò if you are Against it, you can check the homepage: Against-TCPA.
Links:
ò http://www.trustedcomputing.org
ò http://www.againsttcpa.com/
ò http://www.activewin.com/articles/2002/pd.shtml
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IZON
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Posted - 2005.03.26 18:11:00 -
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Holy fecking sh*te, this is pure evil. The US are also drafting a bill to make this legal. Can someone remind me why we attacked Iraq?
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Domalais
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Posted - 2005.03.26 18:52:00 -
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Please find for me where in the constitution it states your right to choice of operating system and hardware.
This has been coming forever, it will be a cross between a console and a computer. Magically, no one complains when Sony pulls crap with its consoles, but Microsoft does anything with PCs, and the crying begins.
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wayz
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Posted - 2005.03.26 18:54:00 -
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You see.. the problem with society these days is people complain about things but are totally unwilling to do anything about tyrinical governments, what happened to good old political assasinations and civil war?
I say if you dont like something, shoot stuff and blow buildings up until the government backs down.... worked for ireland
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2005.03.26 18:56:00 -
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 Originally by: IZON
Holy fecking sh*te, this is pure evil. The US are also drafting a bill to make this legal. Can someone remind me why we attacked Iraq?
I believe that was a case of assimilation, was that what you were getting at?
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wayz
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Posted - 2005.03.26 19:14:00 -
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meh... anyway... I kind of see the law as being a rough guide unto what you should or shouldnt really do.
so.... umm you could always show your defiance by just breaking the rules and not paying for anything.
hehe
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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XZeRo
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Posted - 2005.03.26 19:43:00 -
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Well... there still is hope. Asus, Abit , Msi have not signed the list. they will not use the TCPA Chip..
/XZ
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.03.26 19:59:00 -
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I hope it'll get hacked/*****ed/hardwired 48 hours after its release, thus shafting all the profiteering gluttons who poured money into the development of their precious gestapo-chip.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.26 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
I hope it'll get hacked/*****ed/hardwired 48 hours after its release, thus shafting all the profiteering gluttons who poured money into the development of their precious gestapo-chip.
Oh it will 
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Ixianus
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Posted - 2005.03.26 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ixianus on 26/03/2005 21:27:03
The constitution doesnt say a great many things but implies and leaves open areas for expansion in the future.
I dont see what purpose this could possibly serve. Also i love how microsoft wants "secure" prgrams and what not seeing as they make the worlds crappiest internet browser and leave huge gaping security holes in other programs as well.
This is nothing but a push to further support giant corperations and eliminate the small companies or individuals who would dare to think without government consent.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.03.26 22:47:00 -
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This idea would be good for corporate/government/military equipment, for the added security for their systems. But requiring consumers and the general public to use it would be just wrong and result in a mass revolution of computer nerds.
Not to mention that the factory that would make these chips would probably be attacked once a week by people trying to destroy it.
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Xeaon
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Posted - 2005.03.27 00:57:00 -
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Omg my mp3s 
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Zatak Druk'Norr
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Posted - 2005.03.27 02:35:00 -
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Remember, Intel tried this by itself with the serial numbered Pentium IIIs four of five years ago. There was outrage and it was withdrawn; so Intel sought safety in numbers with a bunch of other corporations and they've been plotting and planning Trusted Computing ever since.
Microsoft had planned to use the CPU serial number to protect their software. Instead, they used computer components to form a "key", in effect placing a version of Trusted Computing in to your PC; most PC users already use Windows XP or Microsoft products that have this feature.
Anyway, not sure what the pros and cons to having "Fritz" might be just yet. Not sure I like the implications, tbh. It has social and political issues, I can see it harming a lot of people if it ends up in PCs because you just can't "trust" how the information will be shared.
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Torvus Jay
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Posted - 2005.03.27 03:43:00 -
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Quote:
Not to mention that the factory that would make these chips would probably be attacked once a week by people trying to destroy it.
/emote Hums terminator 2 music.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.03.27 03:45:00 -
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As Viceroy said, it'll be beaten minutes after it's first released. If it isn't I'll have to break into Bill Gate's solid gold house and gank him, then ransom his pod with the condition that if he removed Microsoft's backing for this I'd let him go.
Omg I made a funney! 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.03.27 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
I hope it'll get hacked/*****ed/hardwired 48 hours after its release, thus shafting all the profiteering gluttons who poured money into the development of their precious gestapo-chip.
Without a doubt, it will.
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Meehan
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Posted - 2005.03.27 08:12:00 -
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TCPA also means Time to Closest Point of Approach if you're an ARPA Radar operator - not that I expect anyone to know nor care 
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.03.27 10:21:00 -
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well done on eating up the FUD etc
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there is nothing wrong with TCPA as is
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ApophisXP
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Posted - 2005.03.27 13:06:00 -
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i give it maximum of 1week before someone starts selling chips/flashes or "updates" to overcome this.. Bit like the Multiregion dvd players now. Before all region locked and now? who gives a damn
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.03.27 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan
TCPA also means Time to Closest Point of Approach if you're an ARPA Radar operator - not that I expect anyone to know nor care
As long as you aren't one of those operators that makes me wait forever to come into the airspace and land!
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Maxtor
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Posted - 2005.03.28 05:17:00 -
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Current software piracy methods are crude, primitive, and something of a disgrace to the hackers/*****ers of the 80's. Seriously, to pirate music, all you need to do is copy the data, nothing else. Real hackers should be able to beat security or encryption systems, whether they are software or hardware. So many people complain about write-protected CD's, but I have never heard of anyone even considering building their own CD or DVD drive to get around this.
All things considered, Microsoft has every right to prevent people from using pirated versions of Windows. The problem isn't with any "tyrannical government", it's with companies. How often do you (speaking to my fellow Americans here) hear European bands on MTV, VH1, or popular radio stations? Unless those bands have a contract with an American recording company, probably almost never. Think the US recording industry wants to hold a monopoly and act like European music doesn't exist? you bet. Personally, I find Nightwish and Within Temptation to be far better than most American bands, but the only reason I know of them is because one radio host played a segment of Within temptation as bumper music (in those seconds after the commercial break before the host starts talking) and mentioned the name of the band. That radio host happens be something of a scourge to the mainstream media, too.
Years ago, the US government tried to ban freely downloadable, private (non-government and non-company) encryption software because it was a minor security threat, and lost. The US government can't go out and censor everything it does not like. The last time that happened was called the "prohibition era", and government did not come out ahead.
Protest the stupid who try to make government do something that it should know better than to do and the greedy who use their power to sue small competitors to death or influence government to restrict competition through new legislation. Want someone to protest? Go after phone companies; they can make cellphones better, cheaper and easier, but they are spending more time trying to ban VON technology - the FCC has practically spit in the face of phone companies for this, interesting story, but for another time. Or, perhaps better yet, go after the recording industry for exploiting artists, overcharging, and abusing their monopoly to keep European music out of the US. Or, go after the Nissan car company for trying to steal a website away from a guy named Mr. Nissan who makes and sells computers. Go to Nissan.com to learn all about that last one.
Perhaps best of all, have you looked at the price of gas? Where are the protestors at that one time they could possibly be right?
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Mr Lloyd
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Posted - 2005.03.28 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
Originally by: Meehan
TCPA also means Time to Closest Point of Approach if you're an ARPA Radar operator - not that I expect anyone to know nor care
As long as you aren't one of those operators that makes me wait forever to come into the airspace and land!
Naa, I'm the guy shipping your low-grade goods across the Atlantic 
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.03.28 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Maxtor
Perhaps best of all, have you looked at the price of gas? Where are the protestors at that one time they could possibly be right?
Wow, if you're complaining about the cost of Gas in the USA, wait until you see the cost of Petrol in the UK! 
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.03.29 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Hawkes
Originally by: Maxtor
Perhaps best of all, have you looked at the price of gas? Where are the protestors at that one time they could possibly be right?
Wow, if you're complaining about the cost of Gas in the USA, wait until you see the cost of Petrol in the UK!
aye... too feckin right 
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2005.03.29 14:04:00 -
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1.2Ç/litre of 95.
Luckily my car runs on diesel (well it could run with butter, but the damn government would seize the car for "inapropriate fuel use") and it only costs 0.95Ç.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2005.03.30 09:43:00 -
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ok ppl, time to get some skills with pure eletronics.
No more time for coding slackers...
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Mirian Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.31 12:53:00 -
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Simple. khrm the Country that is driving this is trying to dominate the whole world.
Ppl should be very afraid when the buu-huush tries to setup a new constitution. If ppl at that time would try to capture power there is allready a safety switch in place in the new p_trio_t act. They can Claim there is a Biological attack (wich no one can prove or know for sure. You do know the merican media is allready under control) and then move all power in society to Military. YOU ARE ****** . NO I'm not paranoid I'm just stating the some what obvious facts.Offcourse IF you are from that country You prolly don't know about the patriot act in the first place.
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Fuse
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Posted - 2005.04.01 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Fuse on 01/04/2005 10:45:54
TCPA can kiss our A$$. They can try to make it fly all they want it isn't going to fly. Any technology that dictates a certain standard is not popular. There will be vendors that will NOT conform to this and those vendors will get our money. Honestly these frecking companies want to be the Amarians in real life they sure act like it.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.04.01 18:42:00 -
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it will never fly in the US.
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Sicori Malaki
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Posted - 2005.04.10 17:46:00 -
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it will be like that time in 80's(or 90's) when some game company wanted to insure that nobody would pirate their games,so they spent ****load of money into making a device that needed to be plugged into the computer for the game to work. only to make the mistake of releasing the device before the game and it had be *****ed few days before the game they tried so eagerly to protect, came out :P
the same will happen with this, as all, or else we might need to take matters into our own hands and brush up on that anarchist's cookbook :P
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