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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:12:00 -
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Since there is some confusion on the DT I felt I had to post why.
The EVE servers run on GMT all year round, but contrary to what people think, GMT doesn't have summer time.
So, the UK which has GMT during the winter is now in BST, which is GMT+1. CET with summer time is GMT+2 and EET with summer time is GMT+3.
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MASTERZULU
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:18:00 -
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Righto, so how do I get the EVE UI time to show as BST?
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S'Daria
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:20:00 -
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Is there a file somewhere to set it to EST?
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:21:00 -
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You don't it shows EVE time to everyone across the world to make it easier for people in different time zones to plan things.
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M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:22:00 -
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 Originally by: MASTERZULU
Righto, so how do I get the EVE UI time to show as BST?
I think you missed the point......
Eve runs on GMT all year round so the UI will display GMT all year round 
If it's easier for you, just think in terms of "Game time" or "Eve time"
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Crazy Squirrel
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:25:00 -
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And its now 11:23 GMT and i've been online for the last hour.
Got all the DT warnings, and the market went down.... and is still down.
So whens downtime coming?
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Leitari
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:26:00 -
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tbh..... uk sux big time....
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: fairimear on 27/03/2005 11:31:28
Edited by: fairimear on 27/03/2005 11:30:41
can dt be put at 11am bst then. its really meesed up my personal body clock.
and we all know how eve revolves around fairimear..... 
AND the rest of the British....
o wait im a few hundread years to late for that 
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Ombey
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:33:00 -
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Just logged in OK now... when is DT happening? Is it happening?
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear
Edited by: fairimear on 27/03/2005 11:31:28
Edited by: fairimear on 27/03/2005 11:30:41
can dt be put at 11am bst then. its really meesed up my personal body clock.
and we all know how eve revolves around fairimear.....
AND the rest of the British....
o wait im a few hundread years to late for that
The empire is gone, live with it 
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
The empire is gone, live with it
I wish...
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:41:00 -
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How confusing, Eve time is 11:38 and my time is 13:38.
At 2 am tonight the cloak is going one hour forward for me?
So then there will be a 3 hour diffrence between my time in eve.
There used to be a 1 hour diffrence 
On the other hand downtime used to be at noon for me so now its going to be at 9:00, which is sort of handy i guess.
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Judas Jones
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: fairimear
Edited by: fairimear on 27/03/2005 11:31:28
Edited by: fairimear on 27/03/2005 11:30:41
can dt be put at 11am bst then. its really meesed up my personal body clock.
and we all know how eve revolves around fairimear.....
AND the rest of the British....
o wait im a few hundread years to late for that
The empire is gone, live with it
You can never resist the power of the dark side  Opps, wrong empire.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
How confusing, Eve time is 11:38 and my time is 13:38.
At 2 am tonight the cloak is going one hour forward for me?
So then there will be a 3 hour diffrence between my time in eve.
There used to be a 1 hour diffrence
On the other hand downtime used to be at noon for me so now its going to be at 9:00, which is sort of handy i guess.
The clock went one hour forward last night, not next night..
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:50:00 -
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Strange the news paper says its tonoght 
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Crazy Squirrel
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Posted - 2005.03.27 11:56:00 -
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You're probably reading it wrong Joshua. Technically the clocks did change today, 1am today, i.e. this morning which can be also classed as last night.
Either that or you've got yesterdays newspaper 
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Dufas
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:01:00 -
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Dont have the time thing working too well or i smell a nerf comming 
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Stone Blackmouth
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:08:00 -
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Remember, Spring Back and Fall Forward.
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Lig Lira on 27/03/2005 12:11:49
You still haven't told us why we haven't had DT
Which PA character are you?
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Shamen
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:11:00 -
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So whens downtime?!?!?! RESET THE SERVER!!! PLEASE!!! I NEED TO BUY A SHUTTLE DAMNIT! 
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Nuadh
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:14:00 -
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depends on location too.. mine's next week apparently.. some places dont even have dst
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
At 2 am tonight the cloak is going one hour forward for me?
Time travelling cloaks?
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VigX
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: VigX on 27/03/2005 12:21:20
so this basically means eve suffers from Y5,2k?
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lig Lira
Edited by: Lig Lira on 27/03/2005 12:11:49
You still haven't told us why we haven't had DT
The server crash this morning was enough DT, but this thread isn't about the DT, it is about how summer time affects the DT.
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Carty
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Leitari
tbh..... uk sux big time....
Bothered.
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Caladen
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Posted - 2005.03.27 12:52:00 -
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http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html
hope this helps.
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.03.27 13:00:00 -
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End Daylight Savings!!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.03.27 13:09:00 -
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summer time is nice, more sun in the evening
Wanna fly with me?
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StarRanger
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Posted - 2005.03.27 13:26:00 -
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How difficult can looking at a clock be???
Downtime is ALWAYS (and that means as long as there is EVE or mentioned otherwise by CCP!) between 10:00 and 11:00 hours INGAME TIME (or GMT time).
Now is that so difficult??? Login, check the timer and you know when its close to downtime.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.03.27 13:55:00 -
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I love it, this topic comes up EVERY 6 MONTHS and is alway sticky for a day or 2
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Decairn
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Posted - 2005.03.27 14:45:00 -
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I don't see why we can't have a game time and local time shown. Please. It's so damn confusing - just get into talking game time and have a point of reference for everyone visible.
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Crazy Squirrel
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Posted - 2005.03.27 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: StarRanger
How difficult can looking at a clock be???
Downtime is ALWAYS (and that means as long as there is EVE or mentioned otherwise by CCP!) between 10:00 and 11:00 hours INGAME TIME (or GMT time).
Now is that so difficult??? Login, check the timer and you know when its close to downtime.
Not between 11:00 and 12:00 then? 
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Klitte
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Posted - 2005.03.27 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: StarRanger
How difficult can looking at a clock be???
Downtime is ALWAYS (and that means as long as there is EVE or mentioned otherwise by CCP!) between 10:00 and 11:00 hours INGAME TIME (or GMT time).
Now is that so difficult??? Login, check the timer and you know when its close to downtime.
Nice StarRanger. DT is, and have always been between 11:00 and 12:00 GMT ( also know as EVE-time, GaMe Time and so on ) 
Think your inner clock needs glasses.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.03.27 15:11:00 -
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Down time for me is between 6am-7am EST...ON the weekends I am still asleep. During the week well I leavc the house at 5:30am to get to work anyway so I dont care.
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Kresh Vladir
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Posted - 2005.03.27 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kresh Vladir on 27/03/2005 15:42:01
Originally by: Decairn
I don't see why we can't have a game time and local time shown. Please. It's so damn confusing - just get into talking game time and have a point of reference for everyone visible.
jus pres alt+tab an chek te time on ur cumputor
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M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2005.03.27 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Stone Blackmouth
Remember, Spring Back and Fall Forward.
Close..... it's Spring forward and fall back
In the UK we don't generally use the word "Fall" it's Autumn
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Vicker Lahn'se
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Posted - 2005.03.27 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Vicker Lahn''se on 27/03/2005 19:45:19
I think this thread is causing a lot of people some confusion...
Lemme see if I can simplify this. GMT (Greenwich Mean Time), also known as UT (Universal Time) is the universal standard of times around the world. It does not spring ahead or fall back.
Most areas in the Northern Hemisphere change their time by an hour during the Summer. In America this is called Daylight Saving Time and it is called Summer Time by the rest of the world.
During the Summer, people who live in the Northern lattitudes of the Greenwich time zone switch to BST (British Summer Time). Even though the people who live in Greenwich are off by an hour during the Summer, the unmodified GMT is still used as the universal standard. Eve uses this universal standard, and thus will NOT be switching to Summer Time.
Downtime is always 1100 to 1200 GMT. During the Winter, the East Coast of America uses regular EST (Eastern Standard Time). EST is 5 hours behind GMT, so downtime is 600 to 700 EST. During the Summer, the East Coast uses EDT (Eastern Daylight Time), which is an hour ahead of regular EST. This means downtime is 700 to 800 EDT.
For those who live in the Greenwich time zone, downtime will be 1200 to 1300 BST during the Summer.
In short, if your area does not practice daylight saving time or summer time, then downtime will not change for you. If your area does spring ahead, downtime will change relative to the time that you're using.
One final note, the Southern Hemisphere has Summer around December and Winter around June. Thus, many areas in the Southern Hemisphere practice a form of Summer Time during their Summer, which is the opposite half of the year from the North. People in the Southern Hemisphere are falling back at this time of year while people in the North are springing ahead.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.27 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se
Edited by: Vicker Lahn''se on 27/03/2005 19:45:19
I think this thread is causing a lot of people some confusion...
Thats the beauty of this whole thing, some people understand it already, some people got it from my explanation, some people got it from your explanation and some people will get it from other peoples explanations. 
It's the same thing every summer, and this is the third one. The more you explain the more you manage to confuse yourself really, so I'm just gonna go with my original explanation and let anyone else post their explanation if they want to.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.03.28 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: F''nog on 28/03/2005 00:40:46
3500 BC - Sundial
1400 BC - Water Clocks
1285 AD - Mechanical Clocks
1510 - Spring Powered Clock
In 1577 - Jost Burgi invented the minute hand.
In 1656 - the pendulum was invented by Christian Huygens, making clocks more accurate.
In 1504 - the first portable timepiece was invented in Nuremberg, Germany by Peter Henlein.
1840 - Electrical Clock
1870 - Time Zones
1878 - Sir Sanford Fleming invented standard time.
1884 - Greenwich, England, is officially named the world's prime meridian,
1923 - Time via Radio
1929 - Quartz Crystal Clock
1949 - Atomic Clock
2005 - People can't read a clock.
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Dakath
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Posted - 2005.03.28 03:26:00 -
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I plan to STEAL Greenwich and move it to Texas.
Thereafter it will be TMT (Texas Mean Time).
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Sparta
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Posted - 2005.03.28 04:27:00 -
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When we change our clocks? the answer is.....
Daylight Saving Time begins for most of the United States at 2 a.m. on the first Sunday of April. Time reverts to standard time at 2 a.m. on the last Sunday of October. In the U.S., each time zone switches at a different time.
In the European Union, Summer Time begins and ends at 1 am Universal Time (Greenwich Mean Time). It starts the last Sunday in March, and ends the last Sunday in October. In the EU, all time zones change at the same moment.
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Matrin III
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Posted - 2005.03.28 05:38:00 -
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BUT WHY are the servers having such trouble? This is why? Last night the server crashed from 12:00am my time to 2:30am my time. Without warning messages. Then at 3:00am the normal "Server goes down for daily maintanece" messages started and the market was unusable the whole time. When 4:00am (the time the server normally goes down, and the time the warning messages all announced it would go down) came, the server never went down. THen 5:00am came, then 6 7 8...and I went to sleep. The server had NEVER gone down but from 12:00am untill 8 hours later the markets never worked. And right now the markets dont work. And They have not worked when I haave been online since last night.
Are you saying this relates to some "Summer Time" the Brtish are having? Why?
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.03.28 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
So, the UK which has GMT during the winter is now in BST, which is GMT+1. CET with summer time is GMT+2 and EET with summer time is GMT+3.
LOL yea, the confusion is cleared up there...
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NastyLlama
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Posted - 2005.03.28 10:21:00 -
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Well I have an eve clock, its set at eve time and sits next to my pc, problem solved
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Matrin III
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Posted - 2005.03.28 10:23:00 -
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...dosent EVE have an EVE an clock?
I dont get why ppl r confused...
so downtime changed 1 hour in some place, and is the same in others? (due to local changes, not EVE changes).... why is that so confusing?
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2005.03.28 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: MASTERZULU
Righto, so how do I get the EVE UI time to show as BST?
lmao, you use the clock on your wall if you live in a BST timezone :) The EVE ui clock shows GMT for a good reason;
- It shows when downtimes will come, they always come at 1200 GMT.
- It lets people in disparate timezones arrange meeting times easily without needing to mess with timezone translations. They just agree on an EVE time to meet up.
- It would be pointless having a UI clock that showed you your current system time, you already have the Windows system bar time, as well as any clocks you might have around your house.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.28 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 28/03/2005 11:07:18
Hmm downtime at 12:00 during summer time is bad, cant it be moved an hour earlier? It was perfect then 
Edit: or 11, whatever the hell it is in evetime. It starts at 13:00 here, which sucks.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2005.03.28 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Darkwolf on 28/03/2005 11:23:00
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edit: or 11, whatever the hell it is in evetime. It starts at 13:00 here, which sucks.
Cry me a river.
Downtime happens at either 8:30pm, or 7:30pm my time, every day (depending on daylight savings).
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Murod
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Posted - 2005.03.28 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Matrin III
...dosent EVE have an EVE an clock?
I dont get why ppl r confused...
so downtime changed 1 hour in some place, and is the same in others? (due to local changes, not EVE changes).... why is that so confusing?
Neither do I, not a very diffcult thing to understand.
Must say though, a very amusing thread
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.03.28 13:36:00 -
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Eve allways gets a bit freaky around March Madness, the strangest thing is that none of the four empires has a representative in the final four, why is that?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.28 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darkwolf
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edit: or 11, whatever the hell it is in evetime. It starts at 13:00 here, which sucks.
Cry me a river.
You can come collect your river in HLW-HP.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.03.28 18:55:00 -
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\0/ YAAAAAAAA! Free beer tomorrow!!!!
errrr wait, when is that?
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Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.03.28 20:39:00 -
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Honestly there are times when i could weep for the human race. Reading this thread would be an example.
Its always the Brits moaning aswell to be fair, it happened last year aswell.
The UK moves to a different timezone (BST), GMT doesnt change. Eve time = GMT. End of.
PS Im British btw before some Daily Mail reading asshat gets on his high horse about the UK inventing time and the universe as we know it.
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Traukin
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Posted - 2005.03.28 22:47:00 -
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Let's remember that downtime is set to try to be during the
lowest use time of the day...
This won't change just because timezones in a few areas of the world change.
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Murod
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Posted - 2005.03.28 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Skape Gote
Honestly there are times when i could weep for the human race. Reading this thread would be an example.
Its always the Brits moaning aswell to be fair, it happened last year aswell.
The UK moves to a different timezone (BST), GMT doesnt change. Eve time = GMT. End of.
PS Im British btw before some Daily Mail reading asshat gets on his high horse about the UK inventing time and the universe as we know it.
ROFL.
Well said!
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ThePilgrim
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Posted - 2005.03.29 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 28/03/2005 11:07:18
Hmm downtime at 12:00 during summer time is bad, cant it be moved an hour earlier? It was perfect then
Edit: or 11, whatever the hell it is in evetime. It starts at 13:00 here, which sucks.
Now why didn't we all think of that
Let's change the whole game so that it suits you shall we? ...FFS
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Calsak
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Posted - 2005.03.29 10:36:00 -
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As far as I rememmber was to allow more day light to bring the harvest in for farmers in 1908. So if you want to blame them! It's now all tied up with Euro Directives and Brussels crap so all that is probably out the window now.
But if we changed Eve Time to follow an out dated rule then it would cause just more problems for the rest of the world than it would solve just for Europe. It's a pain and DT being at 12noon - 1pm for me screws my head but hey I've bigger problems to try and solve.
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Posted - 2005.03.29 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dakath
I plan to STEAL Greenwich and move it to Texas.
Thereafter it will be TMT (Texas Mean Time).
Just make sure you don't put it in Paris, Texas.
Because then people might be tempted to call it PMT.
Anyway, I don't see why Eve should have summer time - there are no seasons (as we know them) in space.
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Lyle Waters
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Posted - 2005.03.29 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lyle Waters on 29/03/2005 16:49:08
Sod the downtime, I was late for work sunday morning....
Anyhow, its now PMS isn't it?
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Morfhman
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Posted - 2005.03.29 17:09:00 -
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I like all of you to know EvE time is as same as Iceland time
Now get your goverment of your country to cance the time to eve time as we here in iceland did.
1 universal time? EVE time.....For all the world.
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