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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:24:00 -
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http://www.newser.com/story/156373/playstation-3-gets-hacked.html
No ****, this is what could be the biggest issue for Sony. It looks like a hack they will have severe trouble in removing, and now it looks like PSN is truly screwed.
How will the affect Dust? |
Jim Era
5742
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:27:00 -
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well dust is free so it shouldn't affect it? |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
6
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:30:00 -
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It relies on micro-transactions though, so it may be less popular if faced with competition from a ton free games in the case of a widespread hack. |
Jim Era
5742
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:32:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:It relies on micro-transactions though, so it may be less popular if faced with competition from a ton free games in the case of a widespread hack.
micro transactions only if you choose. You can purchase items with ISK. right? |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
6
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:38:00 -
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Yeah, I think so. I was just thinking about non-EVE non-Dust players.
If they all of a sudden have a ton of free games to choose from, Dust would look less appealing. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2545
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:42:00 -
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Again? |
Jim Era
5744
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:46:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:Yeah, I think so. I was just thinking about non-EVE non-Dust players.
If they all of a sudden have a ton of free games to choose from, Dust would look less appealing.
Nobody that doesn't play eve or have friends related to eve they are not going to play dust anyways. unfortunately |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
467
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:08:00 -
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[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
405
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Posted - 2012.10.25 13:31:00 -
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Hmmm ... All I foresee in Venezuela is a new spike in pirated games, you can even chip Wiis, PS1/2 and almost anything that can boot up and load something down there for like 50$ in any store in the street. Megacorps need to understand the future is not a place where everyone is a consumer that eats processed goods , digests them and then moves on to something new.
People actually want fixed spots in the net they can make their own. Hacks like these ones and new gen consoles will open the door for a true liberation of gaming.
Gaming is too segmented as it is, and damn evil greedy companies (that go WAY BEYOND PROFIT) just want to further segregate the market so its easier to control. If it were up to them PC gaming would be dead 100% as they keep making remakes of the same WW2 shooter over and over with better looking skins and more nekkid girls.
Hope they hack them to hell in a way they actually realize they doing everything WRONG.
Gone are the days when by pirating a game you did hurt the developer and his family living in the garage, these days developers jut get a fixed wage plus a random made up formula for earnings, most of the profit goes to the big guys and temporary programmers that just repeat lines of code without sometimes actually understanding or even remotely caring for what they do.
AAA games are the Blockbuster movies of today, they all need to die, they stifle innovation and creativity and just remake the same old monomyths over and over ad nauseam.
The Gaming Industry needs a big shakeup.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1290
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:07:00 -
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So you mean now a PS3 is finally again a bit closer to a (fairly weak) PC ?
I don't really see what the big fuss is about.
I mean, other than this hopefully accelerating plans for Sony to finally release the damn PS4 (and do a better job at securing their own firmware this time, or at least lowering the time between PS version releases).
P.S. Then again, why do I care ? I never owned any console, just PCs. Oh, wait, I remembered why - because ancient console hardware is keeping most PC game development behind. About damn time somebody kicked the big corp's nads into hurrying up with the cashcow milking.
P.P.S. Games relying on remote servers to operate at all are only affected if the servers are compromised. Personally, I'm all for sub-based and actually prefer freemium games instead anyway. You can't hack/crack those unless you either hack/crack the servers, or if you create a server emulator (but that only makes you play in a tiny alternate universe corner, so, meh, who cares, no thanks). If anything, THAT is the future of gaming, and THAT is what most game companies should focus on.
That, and cheap, reliable internet access for the entire globe,but that's not something game companies do, but they sure as heck can lobby for.
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Elias Greyhand
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:53:00 -
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Thus making me wonder why this happening is still news. |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
617
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:55:00 -
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Elias Greyhand wrote:Thus making me wonder why this happening is still news.
Sony is really bad at security.
Xenuria CSM 8 |
Jim Era
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:56:00 -
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who cares about security. ps3 is still #1 |
Elias Greyhand
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:22:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Elias Greyhand wrote:Thus making me wonder why this happening is still news. Sony is really bad at security.
That's still not news though, that's a well-established and evidenced fact. |
Aricaan
The Miners of EvE
33
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Posted - 2012.10.25 21:13:00 -
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Some people like to offline game though...
As someone that spent 8 months out to sea, I feared accidentally hitting the "Go online" button on Steam. Thankfully, Valve fixed it, but ironically even single player Portal 2 requires online access.
I understand where the publishers are coming from, I just wish there was better middle ground. |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
410
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Posted - 2012.10.27 00:35:00 -
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Aricaan wrote:Some people like to offline game though... As someone that spent 8 months out to sea, I feared accidentally hitting the "Go online" button on Steam. Thankfully, Valve fixed it, but ironically even single player Portal 2 requires online access. I understand where the publishers are coming from, I just wish there was better middle ground.
bring pirate crap to your overseas trip, never worry about being online ever XD, thats the only real solution for you being 8 months in the sea.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1295
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Posted - 2012.10.27 05:52:00 -
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Well, that, or take HALF of the military spending of the USA (nearly half of all the world combined), China (still only a fifth of the one of the USA) and also Russia (less than half that of China), UK, France, Japan (each only a bit less than Russia) - that all sums up to about 555 billion USD per year - and use that cash to finance a swarm of new communications satellites, well over a THOUSAND of them each year (more like three thousand if the whole process is streamlined, and with an estimated lifetime of 15-20 years, this means you could have 50k-60k of them in orbit on a permanent basis), and that includes manufacture, launch cost, main ground link construction and maintenance. Since there's so many of them, if they all work in a single network, they could easily be placed in non-geosynchronous orbits and still offer perfect coverage of the entire freaking planet. Internet EVERYWHERE !
:)
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Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
360
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Posted - 2012.10.27 16:33:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:It relies on micro-transactions though, so it may be less popular if faced with competition from a ton free games in the case of a widespread hack.
If it becomes less popular to people who hack, are we really losing anything by losing them?
Answer is no, in case you hadn't guessed.
Also: No hacking my Dust please. It already gives me the impression that people are using aimbots*, (and I'm not sure they aren't), and I'd rather not have real ones, assuming they aren't already there.
I have yet to interface fully with my controller, (not sure I ever will), though, so it could just be me. Sadly, I have trouble pin-pointing a target that is doing anything other than walking in a straight line or standing still. Floppy paddle problem.
oops.. too far
..no.. not quite enough..
..quit moving you freakin' parasite. 
Problem common to all console FPS using a controller afaik. Dancing monkeys are hard to hit. Fact is though, I run, jump, strafe, and generally get shot like I'm standing still by some players. Other players have as much fun hitting me as I do them, and sometimes they're just good.
Watching somebody facing 90 degrees to you with a sniper rifle while drawing a bead on them and having them turn 90 with an assault rifle, fire, and kill you in one shot makes you wonder though. Especially when it happen in less than a second and you are 500 yards off.
That would be weird in any game, and most people would have 'hack' as their first thought if it happened to them. Only ever happened once that I recall, but not likely to forget it either.
I keep thinking I need a Move or whatever it's called, and have considered my keyboard and mouse more than a few times, but I'm either hesitating to spend the money, (not cheap), or unwilling to use a wired keyboard and mouse on a coffee table to play a game. Also, cameras on PC/Console bother me.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/consumer/story/Is-someone-spying-on-you-with-your-own-web-cam/-aB6SG-yFUu4-d43u8vLOw.cspx
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Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.10.27 16:51:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Internet EVERYWHERE ! Meh... satellite internet has too much latency for general EVE griefing, I think we'll just go ahead and keep mass producing bayonets. Trust no one 
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Temuken Radzu
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
15
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Posted - 2012.10.27 17:35:00 -
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Correct me if i am wrong, but wasn't the xbox 360 already hacked not long after its release? Out of all game consules, the ps3 was the most difficult to hack. It is a miracle that it is only now (after 6 years) they finaly managed to hack it. |
Aricaan
The Miners of EvE
33
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Posted - 2012.10.27 23:17:00 -
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As someone who struggled to find a job, and had people repeatedly not pay me for my work, and ended up joining the military to pay student loans.
I cannot advocate pirating games. Even if the publishers are idiots. |
Aricaan
The Miners of EvE
33
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Posted - 2012.10.27 23:18:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Well, that, or take HALF of the military spending.....
Trust me, if half the military spending went to infrastructure, everyone would be better off.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1295
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:23:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Akita T wrote:Internet EVERYWHERE ! Meh... satellite internet has too much latency for general EVE griefing, I think we'll just go ahead and keep mass producing bayonets. Trust no one
The ping is between 500 milliseconds and 1 second on various current-day Internet connections via satellite.
With a much more dense satellite coverage, they can be moved into a lower orbit and optimized for lower latencies, and you could probably enjoy pings of 150ms-250ms.
I don't know about you, but since EVE already works on a 1-second tick, a 1 second ping is not THAT bad.
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Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
94
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Posted - 2012.10.30 02:02:00 -
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Aricaan wrote:Akita T wrote:Well, that, or take HALF of the military spending..... Trust me, if half the military spending went to infrastructure, everyone would be better off.
I don't know about that. I get around just fine, have running water.
Some of the best technology comes out of the military.
I'm sure you know they're working on lasers. Did you know they're developing irl cloaks?
edit: I'm aware of how it's trendy to say "make love not war" ect. it seems pragmatic... but the military is really crucial. Think of the missile shield and how that's changed the world. |
Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2012.10.30 16:24:00 -
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Akita T wrote:The ping is between 500 milliseconds and 1 second on various current-day Internet connections via satellite.
With a much more dense satellite coverage, they can be moved into a lower orbit and optimized for lower latencies, and you could probably enjoy pings of 150ms-250ms.
I don't know about you, but since EVE already works on a 1-second tick, a 1 second ping is not THAT bad.
1 sec is enough to experience packet loss resulting in disconnects. Things get really iffy 500ms and beyond. I know, I had times of bad latency when I had a cheap no-contract 3G provider. UDP is very forgiving, can even take packets out of order, but still.... Then people wonder why they pop while in warp hehe. Theoretically it works, but very messy. Then EVE being about the only game you can play at that latency. With cell tower coverage now, it's really hard to consider satellite internet as relevant any longer tbh
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Aricaan
The Miners of EvE
34
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:10:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:Aricaan wrote:Akita T wrote:Well, that, or take HALF of the military spending..... Trust me, if half the military spending went to infrastructure, everyone would be better off. I don't know about that. I get around just fine, have running water. Some of the best technology comes out of the military. I'm sure you know they're working on lasers. Did you know they're developing irl cloaks? edit: I'm aware of how it's trendy to say "make love not war" ect. it seems pragmatic... but the military is really crucial. Think of the missile shield and how that's changed the world.
Sailors are getting laid off, so the Politicians dont have to cut their weapons contracts to their friends.
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