not all t1 cruisers, faction ones arent being looked at, and the navy caracal right now is a sorry excuse of a cruiser.

We'll get to them all! :)

Unfortunate that the final amarr destroyer model ended up looking like a fat Coercer. Many of the concept images looked really good and, more importantly, different than the final design.

I hope this isn't going to be another case of "CCP bit off more than it can chew" and "stomach" (and we'll have to suffer with CCP showing a mouthful of undigested food and nasty belching).

A total of 40 ships are to be rebalanced? Guess you all forgot about that "incremental changes" policy.

When?

Wow, CCP, you royally screwed the pooch when you rejected the original concepts of the Amarr destroyer. So many designs that are infinitely better than the ribbed vibrator you ended up making.

I'm almost ashamed at how hysterically I laughed at the end of that video.

Well played CCP, well played

it's just me or was the gallente destroyer using autocannons?

it is. (200mm with fusion, plasma or emp ... ^^)

Aren't you the troll with the thread telling CCP to slow down and take their time?

They'll get it done when they get it done, and I'm sure they'll coordinate with you personally on an appropriate schedule.

Tested and approved already on the test servers! It was really fun! I got a kill on CCP Fozzie =D

I am indeed the voice of reason suggesting they slow down multiple changes simultaneously.
And this is yet another example of a half-baked implementation, where you will end up with some generic T1 ships being superior to their faction, Navy, and possibly T2 counterparts.

The entire revamp, if necessary at all, should have been ALL frigate hulls, then once that was working properly, ALL the cruiser hulls, then ALL the BS hulls.

Not some shotgun approach.

PLEEEEASE, take the rotating radar dish off the Gallente destroyer. Its completely incongruent with the rest of the Gallente class. Only caldari ships have rotating radar dishes.

The latest episode in the In Development series reveals even more of the Retribution Expansion coming on December 4. It also reveals some other things but you'll find that out for yourselves by going right here.

Enjoy!

The latest episode in the In Development series reveals even more of the Retribution Expansion coming on December 4. It also reveals some other things but you'll find that out for yourselves by going right here.Enjoy!

I am indeed the voice of reason suggesting they slow down multiple changes simultaneously.
And this is yet another example of a half-baked implementation, where you will end up with some generic T1 ships being superior to their faction, Navy, and possibly T2 counterparts.

The entire revamp, if necessary at all, should have been ALL frigate hulls, then once that was working properly, ALL the cruiser hulls, then ALL the BS hulls.

Not some shotgun approach.

Unfortunate that the final amarr destroyer model ended up looking like a fat Coercer. Many of the concept images looked really good and, more importantly, different than the final design.

You're right, what were they thinking? No other plan of rollout could possibly make more sense than yours, considering your extensive experience with MMORPG balancing changes and feature rollouts.

After-all, one man with one closed mind must know better than an organization with multiple teams all working on many projects at once. Your method is the epitome of efficiency, and will certainly not cause an increase in backlogs while several teams wait for their chance to go through the Dinsdale turn-style of approval.

I eagerly await the day when they realize your brilliance and announce the hiring of CCP Tunnafish and it turns out to be you.

(The incorrect double-n will be a dead giveaway though)

(unrealistic whine/rant/request snipped...)

I got it: the Amarr destroyer looks like the Eagle Transporter from the old TV series Space 1999! (I liked that show.)

It does at that, but frankly it more closely resembles a Purifier with a couple of protrusions on the sides.

I'm not really seeing why people compare it to the Coercer... the only resemblence there is the side protrusions (but it has two, not one) and it's basically sort of a tube shape (like many other ships in EVE).

Honestly, I'm a bit underwhelmed by the new Dessies. While I can understand the "lets use the 'other' weapon system" that's a bit too simplistic imo. They add nothing and do nothing compared to the current ones. They still **** frigs, they still suck against cruisers and they're still very very niche.

The Amarr one especially sucks, first of all the looks are... wrong, it looks like a giant bug from the top and is amazingly similar to the Coercer (while the other races have a very different look compared to the current ones) and looks like a lazy design by someone who doesn't understand Amarr design language. Then we get to the bonuses, range to nos/neut sounds cool but it doesn't do anything on a ship like this, it'll pwn frigs regardless of it and it'll die to cruisers regardless of it, especially with the low amount of midslots. It also forces it into scram range (not like it's fast&agile enough to avoid it). Then the split weapon systems, really... REALLY? Unbonused and useless.

Gallente one makes sense and is close to being OP, Caldari one makes sense ofcourse, the Minmatar does not make sense (if anything the Minnie one should be mixed weapon systems) and all 3 of those look awesome in their own way. The Amarr one adds nothing other than "look it's not laser based", it's bonuses are just weird and it's a terrible eye sore.

Hello CCP Guard,

Please forgive me, but at first glance I thought your name tag read as "Liliputian".

I felt guilty, so I felt I should write this post to cleanse myself.

heya and sorry for whats coming next....but the first thought i had as i looked at the armarr destroyer was "oh they made a flying snickers"...

honestly when i look at the caldari or the gallente destroyer i realy love the look of them...but for the armarr one...yes the look is armarr like but i was hoping to see something unique in the way it would like like its on the others which i realy like.

whats everyone else thinking about the new looks of the destroyers

Why do the new destroyers look so terrible?

Also, I agree with the guy above. The amarr destroyer looked awesome in the concept stage but somehow we've ended up with what looks like a coffin.

The latest episode in the In Development series reveals even more of the Retribution Expansion coming on December 4. It also reveals some other things but you'll find that out for yourselves by going right here.

Enjoy!

*snip*

BTW why are you balancing those t1 destroyers and cruisers? Who cares - T2 ships are better anyway.

Why would i buy caldarian or minmatar destroyer when i have the Vengeance in my dock? Because of their look?.. Well, yes i will But there has to be a better reason for it...

At least two reasons off of t he cuff:

1) Younger characters need to fly something into which they can progress fairly quickly upon signing up for this fee-based MMO. Gotta keep the new customers excited and interested seeing as the breadth and depth of F2P title competition is significant.

2) If you haven't noticed, major PvP-oriented groups use destroyer Thrasher gangs extensively. These ships are easy to get into from a training standpoint and provide excellent value for their cost. More variety in the destroyer class is a good thing, perhaps allowing pilots to fill niche roles in fleets.

Unless you haven't noticed, EvE is a little more than flying around and shooting each other in the face kind of PvP.

Some prefer to be a bit more evil than than such simple trick >:)

Soooo... Who do I have to bribe in order to get these new shinies onto SiSi ASAP?! We're less than a month away from expansion! Testing these is greatly anticipated!!!

Free Durex ad. Or maybe they paid you?

Posts like this suck for the Deaf like me. Where is the text version?