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svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.10.26 07:57:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:"alright guys align to *ding - neutral in local* when you arrive at the ga- BARK BARK *ding - neutral in local* and for the love of BARK whatever *ding - neutral in local* so ARF ARF - al in locak BARK local okay primary is *ding* BARK BARK You are coming across as more dumb for every post you make, you can have several channels on teamspeak for instance, you put the bot in a special made channel for that specific system the character is currently in and then the alarms is heard by those doing PVE activities, in that channel, who are in the channel because they are doing PVE in that system. Oh and you can abuse this further which I am sure they do, put same thing for chokepoint systems and down a pipe etc and get even earlier warnings several jumps out immediately and so forth. You can also set it up with jabber and more including char names etc. Local is broken! It's cute how you're the only one who says that such a system even exists. I've been on RAZOR Teamspeak and Goon Mumble many, many times and there's no such thing as what you're describing. The closest equivalent would be intel channels.
Not seen it on goon mumble, but I have seen it on most CFC alliances on their own teamspeak servers. I am also not the only one saying or that knows about this and perhaps you missed it, but it exists and is used by most major alliances by now. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.26 07:58:00 -
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If that were true you wouldn't be the only whistleblower.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:00:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Perhaps making the point that local is broken by pointing out ways it is abused by the ones I argue with is wrong way of going about this, well I happen to know ROL, AAA and SOLAR Fleet does the same, can you now accept that local is broken, unfair and takes away from what EVE should be? No, because your premise is obviously flawed. svenska flicka wrote:TEST and HBC killed more of their enemies PVE:ers awoxxing than they did using normal means during the whole war for instance, yes I know that stat be hard to back up but every anom ratting carrier I saw blew up had a blue helping out. This just in: AWOXing is really easy.
My premise is not flawed because it is the truth.
I think your last comment is a sarcastic one, correct? My point was it is not  therefore something is WRONG when most PVE:ers die in a war that has lasted for months due to awoxxing. |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
344
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:04:00 -
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I hope the red comes to my belt as if he does i will try to kill him. They never do though. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:09:00 -
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Doddy wrote:I hope the red comes to my belt as if he does i will try to kill him. They never do though.
I am sure once with BoB then with Goons you are worried constantly for reds dropping by your belt all the time.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
59
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:13:00 -
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Warp to safepoint, cloak, and troll him with sister probes.
Red Maiden: People actually play with WiS off? Why? It's really well done, and adds an excellent layer of immersion in the game. Plus, my character's ass is out of this world and I like looking at it. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
The Unthinkables
2040
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:14:00 -
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svenska flicka wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:"alright guys align to *ding - neutral in local* when you arrive at the ga- BARK BARK *ding - neutral in local* and for the love of BARK whatever *ding - neutral in local* so ARF ARF - al in locak BARK local okay primary is *ding* BARK BARK You are coming across as more dumb for every post you make, you can have several channels on teamspeak for instance, you put the bot in a special made channel for that specific system the character is currently in and then the alarms is heard by those doing PVE activities, in that channel, who are in the channel because they are doing PVE in that system. How many systems do you think goons rat in exactly? 2? 3? Or does every goon have TS channel creation powers? |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
344
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:15:00 -
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svenska flicka wrote:Doddy wrote:I hope the red comes to my belt as if he does i will try to kill him. They never do though. I am sure once with BoB then with Goons you are worried constantly for reds dropping by your belt all the time.
Is that an attempt a troll? idgi
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svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:16:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:"alright guys align to *ding - neutral in local* when you arrive at the ga- BARK BARK *ding - neutral in local* and for the love of BARK whatever *ding - neutral in local* so ARF ARF - al in locak BARK local okay primary is *ding* BARK BARK You are coming across as more dumb for every post you make, you can have several channels on teamspeak for instance, you put the bot in a special made channel for that specific system the character is currently in and then the alarms is heard by those doing PVE activities, in that channel, who are in the channel because they are doing PVE in that system. How many systems do you think goons rat in exactly? 2? 3? Or does every goon have TS channel creation powers?
Your argument is not enough people with rights to create channels on teamspeak? I started my previous reply to you in jest but now I am serious. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:16:00 -
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Doddy wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Doddy wrote:I hope the red comes to my belt as if he does i will try to kill him. They never do though. I am sure once with BoB then with Goons you are worried constantly for reds dropping by your belt all the time. Is that an attempt at a troll? idgi
It was quite good wasn't it?  |
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Josef Djugashvilis
719
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:24:00 -
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Andski wrote:Minmatar Gandhi wrote:Andski wrote:Chances are that I'm not ratting or running anoms in the first place. I should think not. The best enlightenment I can offer you child is to get your hair done before you go out in public. Vanity is a tainted vice I know, but I am concerned for the citizens. Go in Peace -oo- The only PvE ship I own is a 3bn ISK Vindicator that hasn't paid for even a fraction of itself because I have the capital to make ISK without shooting red crosses like a pleb, but whatevs.
And so charmingly modest as well
This is not a signature. |
Samoth Egnoled
The Condemned and Convicted
5942
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:43:00 -
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I'm usually the red in system. but if it were me...
1. Immeadeatly warp off the grid i am on and cloak up (i use a cloaky tengu)
2. bounce near gate safes and scan
3. depending on my spidey sense, apply appropriate trap method.
I'm the voice inside your head...you refuse to hear,
I'm the face that you have to face... the mirror in your stare,
I'm whats Left..I'm whats Right... I'm the enemy,
I'm the hand that'll take you down.. and bring you to your knees, So Who..are you? |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:49:00 -
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What I said still applies perfectly. Also thanks for that eveskunk link. I didn't know they had standings on there. Going to plug those into a gravity ball graph or whatever it is called. Will be nice to have a 3-D representation of all the alliance standings and numbers.
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Tell me Marlona, if local in 0.0 is making ganking PvE ships in 0.0 pointless and impossible and killing nullsec, why does nullsec have more marauder losses then all other regions combined despite having only, at best, one-fifth the active players living in it? http://www.eve-kill.net/?scl_id=33
Because everyone is using Tengu's?
Oh and do yourself a favor and stop twisting my words and doing the strawman thing, no one is buying it.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:52:00 -
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Amusing to see some null folks cry about no income in null space, yet in another or even the very same thread, talk about how they are somehow magically rich and too good to talk to the poors of the game.
How can you be rich and poor at the same time? They do far too much lying.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:57:00 -
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Skydell wrote:I saw it in Intel 20 minutes ago. I'm already doing something else on another client.
QFT
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Spectre80
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
81
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:i get it, you envy goonswarm for having space superior to the slum that is Providence but perhaps if CVA accomplished something beyond "managing to continue holding space by virtue of their space being absolute garbage" maybe you'd have access to superior space??
and perhaps you should go and suck dicks of all your blues. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
398
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:00:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:So your ratting/running anoms in null sec a red shows up it local, you do what?
align to safe & keep an eye on dscan
if he stays in system beyond the time necessary to travel from in to outgate I get safe (safespot, POS, station) and wait.
I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Muestereate
Two Geezers in Space
74
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:04:00 -
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Dock up and clone jump to high sec? |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Revenge
257
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:07:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:So your ratting/running anoms in null sec a red shows up it local, you do what?
it depends of....
- if i rat in carrier and my corp mates aren't here - i warp to POS
- if i rat in supercarrier i just let that red to find me and bark. However it depends of what do i see on d-scan.
rule of dumb: see red in local -> hide
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CCP Falcon
276
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:11:00 -
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Reload and prepare for company 
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Lord Zim
1856
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:21:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Amusing to see some null folks cry about no income in null space, yet in another or even the very same thread, talk about how they are somehow magically rich and too good to talk to the poors of the game.
How can you be rich and poor at the same time? They do far too much lying.
L4s and market fuckery in hisec. vOv
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Revenge
257
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:24:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:You're worse than any high-sec carebear goon
You won't even tolerate an interruption to your 100% safe ISK farming
Incredible.
i'm not a goon (thanks god). however....
interruption means that you loose time YOU ALREADY PAID FOR and dedicated to play. And i really don't know people who would tolerate it.
It's like getting into road traffic on the way home from long working day. Show me person who would "tolerate" it 
Next. Interruption while ratting in anomaly means loosing drones (if you didn't use fighters). NPC love to shoot them if they can. And here we have ISK loss (isn't it what people call "risk"?) |
Lord Zim
1856
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:24:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:So your ratting/running anoms in null sec a red shows up it local, you do what?
Answer the question and then feel free to post what ever you please.
I would like to ask.an admin to stop by some time and remove all the posts that do not answer the.question so.its easy for me to get the.information i seek.
So you didn't like the answer you got in the other thread, so you started your very own? I see.
What I do, if I'd been dumb enough to bother with nullsec ratting, is dock up and wait for the horde of drool to roll past. What did you expect me to do, stay there and honourably joust with them on the honourable field of honourable space battle on my honourable PVE space steed?
Oh wait, this is a preamble to "hurr nullsec is so safe because of local", isn't it?
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
38
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:30:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Azumi Zimu wrote:You're worse than any high-sec carebear goon
You won't even tolerate an interruption to your 100% safe ISK farming
Incredible. i'm not a goon (thanks god). however.... interruption means that you loose time YOU ALREADY PAID FOR and dedicated to play. And i really don't know people who would tolerate it. It's like getting into road traffic on the way home from long working day. Show me person who would "tolerate" it Next. Interruption while ratting in anomaly means loosing drones (if you didn't use fighters). NPC love to shoot them if they can. And here we have ISK loss (isn't it what people call "risk"?)
God forbid something in the sandbox interrupts your precious PVE time.
That's nice you and the goons play this game to farm ISK in complete safety and are so spoiled that you practically consider the lossof good farming hours IRL theft.
But there is more to the game than PVE and the accumulation of ISK
It's funny we're not even talking about the loss of a ship, that's completely off that table. That's how safe you people are.
The biggest threat to you is having to dock up.
0.0 confirmed for carebear fantasy land. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:33:00 -
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http://youtu.be/ct33UUhS_xg there is a reason half of 0.0 is blue to each other. |
Lord Zim
1856
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:35:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:That's nice you and the goons play this game to farm ISK in complete safety and are so spoiled that you practically consider the lossof good farming hours IRL theft.
I don't know which universe you're playing in, but this is pretty far off the mark.
Azumi Zimu wrote:0.0 confirmed for carebear fantasy land.
Oh? When did 0.0 become so safe I could AFK for days without risking losing a ship?
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Tao Dolcino
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
29
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:37:00 -
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I suppose that the question is : in player's sovereignty null sec ?
Because else, rating in npc null sec is not that different than in low sec. It means that i have nowhere to dock, and i must count on my net of safe spots, my dscan and my reflexs. In other words i see very often red people passing by the solar systems i'm rating in, and i won't go hide each time i see one . If it's a too dangerous fish for me, I just hope that i'll be able to warp fast enough if he visits me and then play cat and mouse in the system. Honestly i rarely get interrupted, and when it happens i mostly have time to warp away, but once again i rat in npc nullsec.
If i visit some "owned" space, it's the locals who are red for me, so of course in this case i won't rat a busy system... |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
38
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:40:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Azumi Zimu wrote:That's nice you and the goons play this game to farm ISK in complete safety and are so spoiled that you practically consider the lossof good farming hours IRL theft. I don't know which universe you're playing in, but this is pretty far off the mark.
Read the quote genius.
Quote:
Oh? When did 0.0 become so safe I could AFK for days without risking losing a ship?
Implying you don't risk losing a ship in high-sec
Implying people in 0.0 can't AFK
Implying it's hard to have a separate window for local and aren't 2 clicks from complete safety. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
280
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Posted - 2012.10.26 09:57:00 -
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For anyone joining us let me summarise the thread for you:
OP: Guise, wht do u do when som1 in a pvp ship enters ur system and ur in a pve ship?????? (lol i bet they hide like cowards, remove local ftw)
Ignorant High Seccers: lol null is so much safer than high sec
Null seccers: You do realise that we need to pay attention to local, and not noticing the screen for the wrong 30 seconds leads to a multi-billion isk loss?
Ignorant High Seccers: We have to face bumping!
lolrp Null Seccers: Readily my gentle space heroes, you are no such heroes, you are cowards and I declare thee as such. I have no understanding of what it is like to fight in real wars, yet I shall still poke my uninformed opinion into thy business.
Null Seccers: What? Why am I supposed to be taking advice off someone who's alliance survives because their space isn't worth taking?
lolrp Null Seccers: You have offended my honour dead space knight, I shall sperge on these forums to punish you.
*Everyone loses will to live*
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Lord Zim
1856
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Posted - 2012.10.26 10:27:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:Implying you don't risk losing a ship in high-sec
I've let a freighter sit for hours on a poco with ~1b in PI stuff sitting in the hold, repeatedly. It still hasn't been ganked. vOv
Azumi Zimu wrote:Implying people in 0.0 can't AFK
Tell me what happens if I AFK in a system in nullsec.
Azumi Zimu wrote:Implying it's hard to have a separate window for local and aren't 2 clicks from complete safety.
I thought you said I can AFK in nullsec, but now you're saying I can increase the chance of not getting ganked by paying attention, and that I'm only completely safe if I, personally, take manual steps to stay safe?
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
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