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March rabbit
R.I.P. Revenge
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Posted - 2012.10.26 10:31:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote: God forbid something in the sandbox interrupts your precious PVE time.
That's nice you and the goons play this game to farm ISK in complete safety and are so spoiled that you practically consider the lossof good farming hours IRL theft.
But there is more to the game than PVE and the accumulation of ISK
you got it right: this game is a sandbox. And every player has right to choose his own play style (don't forget about other players tho). And not one can say: "my play style is right and yours not".
btw: i'm not grinding ISK for like 7 months. I have more than i need. So i just wasting my time chatting in local, pvping and trading.
Azumi Zimu wrote: It's funny we're not even talking about the loss of a ship, that's completely off that table. That's how safe you people are.
The biggest threat to you is having to dock up.
0.0 confirmed for carebear fantasy land.
i'm really sorry for you. If you want to be taken seriously don't allow yourself to make such a fail with stupid sentences like these.
and after all: i'm highsec dweller atm. Not sure if i will return to 0.0 in visible future because 0.0 got really boring for me. And even now i don't like stupid ideas like "remove local". |

Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
526
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Posted - 2012.10.26 10:34:00 -
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Dock up.... and get a PvP ship. |

Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
39
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Posted - 2012.10.26 10:35:00 -
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People AFK in 0.0 all the time, have you ever been to 0.0 ? How much traffic do you think is there? Honestly.
I've seen pods just sitting at gates, when I come back the other way they're still there (I was in a shuttle)
On the off chance you get an AFK cloaker you dock and hide then change systems.
The functionality of local is greatly reduced in high sec, as any neut could be red and you won't know until it's too late.
Go ahead and park a JF at a POCO in 0.0 and go AFK if want. People mine in Titans there, it isn't as if you'd be special. |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
281
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Posted - 2012.10.26 10:41:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:
People AFK in 0.0 all the time, have you ever been to 0.0 ? How much traffic do you think is there? Honestly.
Only AFKing I see is in a station, in a PODs or cloaked up.
Quote:I've seen pods just sitting at gates, when I come back the other way they're still there (I was in a shuttle)
Please tell me where you saw this, I shall lead my next fleet down there.
Quote:On the off chance you get an AFK cloaker you dock and hide then change systems.
This is probably the most correct thing you have said so far.
Quote:The functionality of local is greatly reduced in high sec, as any neut could be red and you won't know until it's too late.
Apart from the fact that outside of Jita ganking is basically unheard of. Lesson: Don't go to Jita.
Quote:Go ahead and park a JF at a POCO in 0.0 and go AFK if want. People mine in Titans there, it isn't as if you'd be special.
Again, please tell me where people just park AFK, I really want to lead a fleet there.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Dracan02
I N E X T R E M I S Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.10.26 10:43:00 -
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go back to station, swap to bomber, go have a bit of a look around so the fast forming fleet has something to shoot at. |

Lord Zim
1856
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:02:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:On the off chance you get an AFK cloaker you dock and hide then change systems. Why? Isn't nullsec completely safe?
Azumi Zimu wrote:The functionality of local is greatly reduced in high sec, as any neut could be red and you won't know until it's too late. I've yet to be ganked in hisec in well over 5 years, and I use autopilot every now and again. More often than not, I don't even keep local open, because hisec is so safe it doesn't matter. vOv
Azumi Zimu wrote:Go ahead and park a JF at a POCO in 0.0 and go AFK if want. People mine in Titans there, it isn't as if you'd be special. It has nothing to do with being special, and everything to do with the fact that if I were to do that in nullsec, what I would come back to would be a dead ship, and a brand new alphaclone. Nullsec isn't safe, no matter how much you and your ilk keep harping on about it. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2313

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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:03:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Dock up.... and get a PvP ship.
Pretty much this. If you don't defend your territory, it doesn't stay yours for very long. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
667
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:04:00 -
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Re-ship, get an alt to check surrounding systems because, you know, it's always a trap. Then once I've got some alliance-mates on board, we nuke him. Unless they have a bigger blob or more logi, in which case we just go take the dog for a walk or something. |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
282
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:05:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:Arduemont wrote:Dock up.... and get a PvP ship. Pretty much this. If you don't defend your territory, it doesn't stay yours for very long.
Actually the argument goes that defending your territory against ~wulfpax~ roamers is counter intuitive.
Say you own a region, we'll call it Region X, you live next door to me, I shall call that Region Y.
I roam from Region Y into Region X looking for kills. You form a home defence fleet and we have ~gudfites~.
All that does is encourage me to take my next roam there. If you want ~gudfites~ the best way to ensure them is for everyone to know if they turn up at your place they'll get a fight. If you want your space to be safe don't react to small roaming gangs. They'll soon get bored with not killing anything and go to Low Sec or a different region.
Depends what you want. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Lord Zim
1856
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:06:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:Arduemont wrote:Dock up.... and get a PvP ship. Pretty much this. If you don't defend your territory, it doesn't stay yours for very long. Small roaming gangs don't threaten any part of any space, unless the alliance which lives there is so bad it literally must be thrown out.
As to docking up from your ratting and switching over to a PVP ship, if only there was any reason whatsoever to do this, instead of just docking up and assassinating your ******** son in Crusader Kings 2 so your nonretarded son can be the proper heir instead while you wait for the gang to roll on by. Sadly, however, there isn't. There's nothing being done in nullsec which necessitates beating off roaming gangs, so most people don't. And they're right in doing so. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
867
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:Minmatar Gandhi wrote:Andski wrote:Chances are that I'm not ratting or running anoms in the first place. I should think not. The best enlightenment I can offer you child is to get your hair done before you go out in public. Vanity is a tainted vice I know, but I am concerned for the citizens. Go in Peace -oo- The only PvE ship I own is a 3bn ISK Vindicator that hasn't paid for even a fraction of itself because I have the capital to make ISK without shooting red crosses like a pleb, but whatevs.
Send it to me, I'll make good use of it.
On topic: Dock, form up, refit, bait/scout, loot, smoke, have a coffee, whiskey, chat, call ex girlfriend, clean your nose, fart
Whatever, all depends how it happens and when it happens. brb |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
284
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:16:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:ISD TYPE40 wrote:Arduemont wrote:Dock up.... and get a PvP ship. Pretty much this. If you don't defend your territory, it doesn't stay yours for very long. Small roaming gangs don't threaten any part of any space, unless the alliance which lives there is so bad it literally must be thrown out. As to docking up from your ratting and switching over to a PVP ship, if only there was any reason whatsoever to do this, instead of just docking up and assassinating your ******** son in Crusader Kings 2 so your nonretarded son can be the proper heir instead while you wait for the gang to roll on by. Sadly, however, there isn't. There's nothing being done in nullsec which necessitates beating off roaming gangs, so most people don't. And they're right in doing so.
Yeah actually I want to revise my answer:
I warp to a POS or station, then alt tab out of EVE and play SimCity4 (retro baby) "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Lord Zim
1857
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:17:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:SimCity4 If only the new SimCity wasn't published by EA. :negative: Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
531
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:29:00 -
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Press all the buttons! ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
285
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:36:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:SimCity4 If only the new SimCity wasn't published by EA. :negative:
The best bit about using SimCity4 to pass the time while alt tabbed out of EVE is that it doesn't take long until your city implodes so you don't accidentally get caught up in your secondary game. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Lord Zim
1857
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:39:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:SimCity4 If only the new SimCity wasn't published by EA. :negative: The best bit about using SimCity4 to pass the time while alt tabbed out of EVE is that it doesn't take long until your city implodes so you don't accidentally get caught up in your secondary game. So not going to play OpenTTD, then. :v: Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
7034
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Posted - 2012.10.26 11:45:00 -
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...I cloak? 
Who am I kidding, I have no idea... Ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire! |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
285
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Posted - 2012.10.26 13:41:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
The best bit about using SimCity4 to pass the time while alt tabbed out of EVE is that it doesn't take long until your city implodes so you don't accidentally get caught up in your secondary game.
So not going to play OpenTTD, then. :v:
I really wish you hadn't just alerted me to the existence of that game :( "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Lord Zim
1857
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Posted - 2012.10.26 13:57:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
The best bit about using SimCity4 to pass the time while alt tabbed out of EVE is that it doesn't take long until your city implodes so you don't accidentally get caught up in your secondary game.
So not going to play OpenTTD, then. :v: I really wish you hadn't just alerted me to the existence of that game :( http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5327
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:03:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Amusing to see some null folks cry about no income in null space, yet in another or even the very same thread, talk about how they are somehow magically rich and too good to talk to the poors of the game.
How can you be rich and poor at the same time? They do far too much lying.
because other people do the red cross shooting for me when they pay me their security deposits and mining permit fees This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5328
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:06:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:Implying you don't risk losing a ship in high-sec
If I go AFK on any given nullsec gate in anything from a frigate to a titan, every passing second makes it more likely that my ship will be lost. Do the same in hisec and chances are that you'll come back to your ship even if you wait till downtime.
So of course nullsec is far riskier. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Robert De'Arneth
170
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:08:00 -
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Well I keep a good eye on local no matter where I am, when you post in these forums you have to. In all my work areas, I will take down my mining ship and rat ship. I keep these 2 ships there at all times, I have several systems setup the same way, Ret and Vex or Domi. I use my covert-ops ship to move between areas, so if a -2 or more shows up, I dock up get into covet ops ship, fly to a moon, hit cloak and ask the - sec guy if he wants to play hot or cold. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5328
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:12:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:The functionality of local is greatly reduced in high sec, as any neut could be red and you won't know until it's too late.
No, any blue is blue. Any neutral is neutral. Any red is red. Being blue to you doesn't stop me from shooting you anywhere, there might just be repercussions for doing so, but there is no mechanic to stop me otherwise. The functionality is the same anywhere except wormholes - the list shows every logged in character in the system.
Azumi Zimu wrote:Go ahead and park a JF at a POCO in 0.0 and go AFK if want. People mine in Titans there, it isn't as if you'd be special.
I can go AFK in a JF anywhere in hisec and it's more likely that I'll still come back to a ship unless I'm dumb enough to put 10b+ worth of crap in it. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing
433
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:39:00 -
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To answer the OP:
Quote: Verily good space captains, what do ye do when some nefarious bugger comes into your system whilst you are engaged in the PvE content of your own choosing?
I'm almost sure it was put that way, but the OP was nine pages ago, so I may be misremembering a bit.
Normally, safe up and cloak, have a beer while they get bored, and then resume my normal activities.
Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
323
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:41:00 -
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I find the thinking of some of our high sec living cousins to be hilarious (in a painful, walking on glass kind of way). They have somehow convinced themselves that because null sec players have learned to mitigate some of the risk, through PLAYER efforts like intel channels, POSes/station and cloaks on isk-making ships, null sec is somehow SAFE and it is THEY (hi-sec people) who are at risk...because of catalysts and thrashers and despite high sec having AUTOMATIC NPC police response.
All this despite the fact that actual empirical evidence to the contrary: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2089146#post2089146
Malcanis wrote:
It's more interesting to consider the number of ships lost per person.
0.0 is about 4.5x more dangerous to the individual player than empire, or about 20x more dangerous if you disregard PvE losses.
Even the high sec pve is safer, as most of their pve loses are cheap frigates killed in tutorial missions. When pve ships die in null, they tend to be carriers, maruaders, , tech 2 logistic ships , tech3s and faction battleships.
(While it's not clearly stated in the dev blog in the link, I'm willing to bet every isk in my wallet that the 300k + ships lost to null sec pve are worth at least 10 times the 6 million ships lost to high sec pve, even since Incursions were added)
When i want peace, i mission in high sec, and I've lately been doing incursions in a Vindicator worth 5+bil, it's nice to have a place to do that sure, I take advantage of it because it exists, but high sec is a little ridiculous with how safe it is the carriers and dreads I fly in null sec don't even cost 5 bil..... These high sec people claiming null is safer need to take a class in critical thinking. |

Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
117
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:04:00 -
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Engage on my bait tanked CNS and cyno up my friends waiting a few systems away lol then become richer with the spoils of war |

March rabbit
R.I.P. Revenge
257
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:10:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:SimCity4 If only the new SimCity wasn't published by EA. :negative: The best bit about using SimCity4 to pass the time while alt tabbed out of EVE is that it doesn't take long until your city implodes so you don't accidentally get caught up in your secondary game. So not going to play OpenTTD, then. :v: timekiller!!!! 

The Sherlock series. "The mystery of the mummy" (1993) is here. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2043
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:18:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Tell me Marlona, if local in 0.0 is making ganking PvE ships in 0.0 pointless and impossible and killing nullsec, why does nullsec have more marauder losses then all other regions combined despite having only, at best, one-fifth the active players living in it? http://www.eve-kill.net/?scl_id=33 Because everyone is using Tengu's? So not only do I prove your 'nullsec is safe' claim is wrong, I preemptively proved a 'everyone uses tengus' claim is wrong by posting a laundry list of nullsec marauder kills. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5334
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:22:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:So not only do I prove your 'nullsec is safe' claim is wrong, I preemptively proved a 'everyone uses tengus' claim is wrong by posting a laundry list of nullsec marauder kills.
I'm more surprised that people actually fly marauders in nullsec This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:26:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:So not only do I prove your 'nullsec is safe' claim is wrong, I preemptively proved a 'everyone uses tengus' claim is wrong by posting a laundry list of nullsec marauder kills. I'm more surprised that people actually fly marauders in nullsec
Couldn't marauders by lolfit to be (very) expensive pvp ships?... |
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