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Niven Helmer	Posted - 2005.03.31 11:11:00 - [1] I'm experimenting with some software called Maxivista, which lets you use your laptop as an extension of your desktop monitor. This would be perfect for having the map, market, local etc open on the laptop screen without cluttering the main window. Problem is that Eve doesn't seem to want to allow windows to move outside the primary screen. Has anyone achieved multiple monitor set ups with Eve? How did you do it? Thanks
Hellcore	Posted - 2005.04.01 13:48:00 - [2] I would love modal windows but I think you would most likely have performance problems (or it just might not work) running D3D stuff over Maxivista. -- CEO, RCSAS
Coconut Joe	Posted - 2005.09.08 03:12:00 - [3] well, first of all you can change which is the primary monitor to the one you want eve to be on ;) Failing that you can just put eve in window mode and just drag it tothe screan you want. But im not sure if would work that way with this software of yours.
Namo Iluvatar	Posted - 2005.09.08 16:56:00 - [4] I'm running dual monitors on my PC and I can't say that I've ever been able to get anything to open from EVE on anything other than the primary monitor (that's where I want EVE launched anyway). What I do mostly is have a set of spread sheets open on the secondary monitor while I play on my primary. My only problem with that is when I try to manipulate any data on the secondary monitor, EVE will minimize to the task bar. At that point it's a crap shoot on what happens next. Sometimes I can return to EVE without issues, other times I have to force EVE in and out of windowed mode to continue game play, and the best yet... regardless of which of the previous happened... the game will typically crash at no particular time after returning to game play. If you could get EVE to span two monitors, that would be awesome and I would love to hear about how it was done. If anyone knows how to switch between one monitor with EVE and another monitor with something else on it without minimizing EVE (other than playing in windowed mode) then I will be equally happy. Best of luck with making a dual monitor system using the laptop monitor (I know a dual monitor system isn't cheap). * All skill is in vain when an angel spits in the flintlock of your musket. *
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:34:00 - [5] Well instead of trying to get 2 monitors to work, which again means you have to buy 2 monitors if your starting from scratch, try looking at this option, it might be a bit expensive, but yu can have several programs open, or watch movies/ TV while you play EVE: This is what i use. Sexy TfT So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2005.09.09 15:37:00 - [6] Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 09/09/2005 15:37:46 Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich Well instead of trying to get 2 monitors to work, which again means you have to buy 2 monitors if your starting from scratch, try looking at this option, it might be a bit expensive, but yu can have several programs open, or watch movies/ TV while you play EVE: This is what i use. Sexy TfT But if money is not an option, you could also go over the top with this one. Guess what im saving for stupid Double post, sorry. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
SengH	Posted - 2005.09.09 22:36:00 - [7] I have a 2405 FPW too but I cant imagine playing EVE on anything bigger... it would just be TOO big...
Allen Miles	Posted - 2005.09.10 07:02:00 - [8] I would also like to know how to make eve work on dual monitors. I have 2 flat 17's. And going into window mode doesn't work for me because EvE doesn't allow me to resize the window. Have Your Own Signature Like Mine.
Kobies Atroci	Posted - 2005.09.11 17:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Allen Miles I would also like to know how to make eve work on dual monitors. I have 2 flat 17's. And going into window mode doesn't work for me because EvE doesn't allow me to resize the window. change the resolution in options, i have 2 17"ers as well, desktop resolution is 1280x1024, to get the Eve window to fit i put the game res at 1280x960 , and the window is as big as it can be( other than fullscreen of course ), leaving my other monitor free to do whatever, without the problem of spontaneously crashing like alt-tabbing has.
Prestidigitator	Posted - 2005.09.19 09:54:00 - [10] A game like Eve is absolutely screaming out for multimonitor support imvho :) It would be coolness personified to be able to have the main viewer, the map, and the market on different screens. Or maybe the normal main viewer, and a extreme zoom-out tactical view on another. I'd love the devs to look into this, but i have to admit that the number of customers that would take advantage of the feature probably isn't worth the huge amount of recoding time it would no doubt take :(

Strathis Mikluk	Posted - 2005.09.19 16:45:00 - [11] I'll vote for that. I think a lot of ppl have the technology lying around these days - spare old monitors and the like - and it would be well worth the investment. Whew... I've come over all funny! Strathis
Divina	Posted - 2005.09.23 23:27:00 - [12] Something that would just allow the app to be run in full screen and for it NOT to be minimised when using an app on another screen would be a VERY sweet option. Thanks
Adrian Steel	Posted - 2005.09.24 16:05:00 - [13] I've been experimenting with a dual monitor setup myself. I can't say I've found any information OTHER than what has been posted above already. If alot of people who are also interested in this post here, CCP could get a better idea of the number of people who want to use a dual setup. Or CCP could make a poll on eve-online.com... I think the number of people using a dual monitor setup will only rise exponentially in the next few years, as more and more people will (a) buy a vidcard that can handle dual setup and (b) realize that it's a real help for whatever work/games their doing and (c) as people move from CRT to LCD, many may have both a CRT and an LCD in their households to use at their convenience. Either way, consider this a bump .
Expert Newbie	Posted - 2005.09.26 00:39:00 - [14] Edited by: Expert Newbie on 26/09/2005 00:40:26 It's very easy to get EVE to run on dual monitors with Nvidia cards but I'm not sure how you would do it with ATI cards. First, go to the Nvidia control panel and change the dual monitor type to 'Horizontal Span'. Make sure it's not DualView or it won't work. Then, just launch EVE Online, hit escape, and change the resolution under the graphics settings and there you go. Too bad your ship is split down right in the middle of the two monitors. You can also use 'Vertical Span' to get a long version of EVE if you want to. Here's 2 screenshots of my dual monitor action: Horizontal Span Vertical Span Alternately, if you only want to keep EVE on one monitor and other applications on the other one but don't want to use Windowed mode, check out this program: http://grismar.net/shiftwindow/ Essentially, you can get a full-screen EVE on one monitor without having to alt+tab all the time to access the other monitor. It does this by keeping the Windowed mode but removes the borders by 'shifting' it off the screen. Also, I would recommend this program: http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/ This program does a number of things but I think the most useful feature is that each window gets their own taskbar and it keeps dialog boxes/windows on one monitor or the other instead of splitting it across both screens. Hope this helps some of you.
Plesuvius	Posted - 2005.09.27 04:22:00 - [15] Thanks, nice links and I also recommend Ultramon. bump for some proper dual monitor support for multiple clients, the kind of thing which would encourage more subscriptions, you know... I use 2 clients on dual monitors with an ATI card and it could be faster, but its certainly workable. What still bugs me is the massive framerate loss when enabling sound, and the inability to pick which monitor the Blue framework will display on. But hell, it basically works. Now, i wonder if i had dual core and set affinity for each client to a different core, would the framerates both double?
Gil Gerard	Posted - 2005.09.28 14:41:00 - [16] Edited by: Gil Gerard on 28/09/2005 14:41:53 For the record, i have an X2 4600+, and an X850XT, i run 2 windowed clients, one at 1600x1200 on my 2405fpw, and the other at 1024x768 on an 18" lcd. both average around 40fps with simultaneous action on both of them, with sound enabled and mp3s playing i can't run a 1920x1200 window for some reason, it will drop to 5fps, regardless of what else i'm doing or how many clients i have open, but 1920x1200 fullscreen makes me leave a mess in my chair it's that pretty.
SnowJack	Posted - 2005.09.30 21:28:00 - [17] Another vote for better dual monitor support. As has been mentioned, changing the nvidia settings to horizontal span works for me - I can go 2560x1024 on my two 17" lcds, and eve looks Great! Also, it's _really_ nice to have that extra screen real estate to expand the chat window and such. All we really need is a way to offset the camera. Instead of having the ship be in the center of the screen (50%), a way to shift it to the left or right (25% or 75%) would be perfect. It's really hard to play with the ship split down the middle.
Sahne MuhMuh	Posted - 2005.10.02 21:16:00 - [18] Same Here. I got a Notebook, which replaced my hole PC. When I¦m at home, a 19" TFT is plugged inside the Book and I run nView Dual Monitor. The 19" TFT is my Primary Monitor and on this I run Eve. The Second Monitor (15,4" Notebook TFT)is displaying mostly Firefox, Skype, Teamspeak ,Miranda etc On my Primary Display I Can run Eve at 1280x1024 in Fullscreen without any Problems. On the Second Monitor I can look at my Browser etc. But just when I click on Somewhere on the Browser Eve minimizes. And this is like... The only thing I can do is to run Eve in Window Mode at a lower Resolution. But thats not the way it has to be. On 1280x1024 in Windows Mode I got an absolutly crappy performance with very low fps. I talked with some peaople about it and all said that this is not an eve related Problem. This is all Windows related. Now I wonder if it is pssible jutst to write a little Tool or Hack (or Maybe an Option in Eve) that just lets eve always on top and not minimized it, when I klick on another Program. And the horizontal Span is not a very good Solution becuase: 1) You need 2 times exact the same monitors. 2) You have to put both Monitors exact to each others 3) You really need a "kaick as Computer to run Eve on such resolutions like 2058x1536 (dunno ;) )
Rundown	Posted - 2005.10.07 13:54:00 - [19] +1 on multiple monitor support. I would love to be able to keep your main montior free of windows clutter. Essentially keeping your normal overview, side bar, and ship control display on your main monitor then being able to pull menus and windows (ie dialog, character sheet, wallet, etc.) to the secondary monitor. I am sure alot of member would GREATLY appreciate it.
Insomniack	Posted - 2005.10.20 08:56:00 - [20] I just started playing Eve last week, and dual monitors was the first thing I wished for. But splitting it down the middle is just silly. I have Windows and Mac machines, and this is definitely one area the Mac has always been better than a PC. YOu can hook up as many monitors as you want on a Mac, just keep adding video cards or use ones with 2 outputs. The Mac OS automatically incorporates the monitors very nicely. Oh well, maybe someday Eve will support 2 monitors. But there are SO MANY other things to work on first....

ERMIS	Posted - 2005.10.21 02:33:00 - [21] Hehehe, I tried multiple monitors myself too,having the game running on my laptop (NVIDIA card) and an external LCD resulting on running EVE on two 17" LCDs having horizontal spawned the desktop on the second monitor. The results looked sweet but IMO people have to consider this : Dual monitor on one VGA increase the load on it thus the temperature on its GPU,plus if the GPU its not a modern one even if it can support the higher resolusions the DUAL mode results, there might/will be some reduction to FPS..Now lets assume you encounter those dirty pirates on a PVP or some other fighting encounter, now add missiles drones etc (yours and your oponents), sit back and enjoy the on screen lag.So either go buy a descent VGA ro forget about it. One other thought i made for my media center pc, is to buy a 30' or bigger LCD ot Plasma display 16:1 and instead of dual monitor (that "cuts" the image in two in the cender of the view of the game window), to have EVE running in full screen in that huge monitor in all its glory.Just imagine the look would be like you are viewing a movie in which you participate in Not to mention that you can have more windows open, chat channels cargo bays overview radar scanner market etc all at the same time. Dual monitor is a good idea but i think that if you are going to put some money on it just consider the option of a 30" lcd wide screen, the viewing experience would be better
Czar	Posted - 2005.10.22 21:28:00 - [22] You know what the REALLY annoying part is? I played this game from just about day one- and back then I just had one screen- but the multiscreen option WAS IN THE GAME! Then I quit for a while- and got 2 screens. Now, getting back into the game- I find the option to multiscreen is OUT of the game!! Grrr... First time I ever thought of getting multiple screens was Due to Eve... I hope it can be reinstated- but I'm not holding my breath.
Xzavier	Posted - 2005.10.29 02:36:00 - [23] /sign I use a 42" Sony Super-WEGA wide screen HDTV as my main monitor and a standard el-cheapo 15" LCD for the secondary. I run the game at 1920x1080 @ 30Hz (standard HD format) in windowed mode and usually spreadsheets on the LCD. Looks absolutely amazing, but it won't allow me to pull any windows out of the primary game screen. Though I also haven't had any problems with the game window minimizing, or any other strangness for that matter, when using any other app's. Guess I'm having better luck with my multi-monitor setup than some others. Would be really nice if I could pull market windows and such over to the secondary monitor tho... BTW, game sounds as awesome as it looks when playing though a home theater system as well... Bose 7.1 surround sound 4tw!!!
Nelix Trist	Posted - 2005.10.29 12:19:00 - [24] I have 2 Account running on one computer (recemtly brought a new one so its now on 2 computers) but while running Eve on the first computer i found that if you have a "Dual Display" once you drag a windows Eve Client onto the second monitor it slowed the "whole" computer down to about 1 FPS. this was fix after i just resized the eve clients to the smallest res availerble. It lag's because it has to render on the second monitor later and will not show you the first untill the second it complete. :D But useing a second computer solved that problem alltogether :D at program called "Sinurgy" (spelt someway like that) also allows you to use a second computer but only one keyboard and now hence you dont need a second keyboard or mouse. i had this runnig for a long time untill i got bored and wanted to have to do a bit more, so i plugged in the second keyboard and mouse ----------------------------------
unit01	Posted - 2005.10.31 06:35:00 - [25] Hi there. Multi monitor support would really enhance the gameplay for a lot of people out there. I personally bought my 2 17''s just so i can get the experience for eve. Now i'm stuck because i really want to get a 3rd lcd hooked up but can't because there's no gcard except the matrox that does it and using that beast just to play eve is gonna leave all my other games feeling like a downgrade. Hate it that in full screen though the middle is in between my 2 displays though. :( Anybody know of any other card except the matrox that does tri view?
Grisina	Posted - 2005.11.02 00:05:00 - [26] Going with what Niven is stating about 3 monitors and i did a quick search through google to find a vga video splitter. 4 port Video Splitter. Here is a basic product that will let you take up to 4 monitors to display as your main windows and if you did a more thourgh search you might be able to find a better suited device to acheive the desired result. I think that if you can do it over 3 screens then it will solve the whole ship being split issue while also giving you a larger window viewing space. Just need to increase the resolution to make it provide actual more space on the computer as well. Its a thought... but then again who has 3 like sized monitors kicking around to use on a windows based machine to run a video game? Let alone the desk space to pull this off as well. my 2 cents anyways
Khaelis	Posted - 2005.12.15 12:02:00 - [27] Proper multi-monitor support would be FTW. Putting the market and other windows like chat and things on other monitors would be... I just cant find a word. But I do imagine that such a change would take a while to code. :( Well, bump anyway.
DrkstHour	Posted - 2005.12.16 04:07:00 - [28] Let me add that i want support for Dual Monitors, infact, support is already there for me, i span the screens and i can run it at 2048x768, it's awesome! but as said before, just really needs to be able to offset the camera, it would be perfect. Or if even, make it so the screen is actually split, the primary screen being the game, and the secondary screen being the modal's. -Drkst
Nosferatu Zodd	Posted - 2005.12.17 18:51:00 - [29] EVE had multi monitor support in the past. The problem was than your ship would be cut in two between the two monitors If the ship would be centered on one screen, then the second screen could be used for property panels, browsers, etc Also the videocards were not powerfull enough ... that's history. A widescreen is an alternative.
slip66	Posted - 2005.12.21 17:51:00 - [30] It would be nice. For the last year I have been running duals. My main is where the eve client is displayed, I use the secondary for forum whoring err.. It starts to chop and become un playabel if I try to drag and 2nd client to the secondary. So I just tend to run in windowed mode and minize between the apps. I use a 9800 pro. My old Nvidia I could run two clients on both monitors that was semi playable. Be nice to get the full deal though.



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