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StreetRat
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Posted - 2005.12.28 11:30:00 -
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Ive used dual monitors in eve for ages, usually having to go horizontal span, and since the max res for one of my monitors is only 1024x768, both clients had to go to that size to have one on each screen
ive played with dx8/9 programming and dragging an app from one screen to another and having the frame rate drop heeps seems to be a problem with all dx apps, when i first started eve, i had it in windowed mode, and as soon as a pixle went accross to the other screen, it dropped to about 5 fps, its to do with the adapter that the application is set to use, primary or secondary
I did notice though, that under the graphics options, i have 2 selections that i can select for my card. (cant check atm as when i load the game and get to the login screen, i cant see any of the username/password boxes, only the background, but thats a different story) The first one is the main monitor and the second is the secondary monitor, by changing this setting in the graphics option, i can run 2 clients, one on each screen and still get over 50 - 60 fps in standard dual view, im using a Nvidia 6800 gt, not sure if the options still there for ATI or not. By changing this, you could proabbbly also have eve play on the second screen without the fps dropping.
Having one client span 2 monitors and having the primary monitor to play on and the second monitor for other ingame stuff would be cool, although might not work to well on different resolutions, and probably not possible in dual view with the dx limitations, unless theres ways around these i havent found yet.
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sHERU
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Posted - 2005.12.29 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: sHERU on 29/12/2005 09:21:04
I think I have a small part of the solution.
Dualview gameplay is usualy tricky, and in general if the software does not support it, it will NOT work.
Examples of software where dualscreen is supported are: Quake3 (1,2 or 3 screens)
Flightsimulator (1,2 up to 30 screens)
So unless the CCP dev is willing to implement it, I wil not go anywhere.
But I have a few things at mind, first of all, take a look at this.
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/products/dh2go/home.cfm
This is an adaptor that splits the signal, for example 2048x768, into 2x 1024x768.
Secondly we should take a look at EVE online self. A we would need to raise the resolution output. And I consider 2 things as a option:
A: Edit the EVE Online config/ini files and chance 1024x768 into 2048x768.
B: Use widescreen (altho I have no idea how that works)
Wil this work? NO IDEA and to be honest, tempering with these files is at your own risk. Always make a backup!
And expect the client to become unstable when operating at nonstandard resolutions.
At the moment this is all I think of, when I get more, ill post them here.
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Lag Hon
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Posted - 2006.01.02 05:19:00 -
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/sign
98% of new Vid cards these days are Dual Monitor capable by default.
Id Love to use my second screen instead of everything cluttering one screen
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Elric Max
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Posted - 2006.01.06 23:37:00 -
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/sign
I currently use on 19" CRT but I've got two 19" LCD's on the way shortly, and I'd love to see this option implemented into the Eve client. The idea of having the map open in one window while flying in the other is just... outrageously cool.
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Gordam
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Posted - 2006.01.07 00:36:00 -
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I have two identical Eizo 17" LCD monitors and I'd love to have dual monitor support for EVE. It'd be extremely cool if we could have two individual cameras, one for each monitor, that we could control. Imagine fixing one camera on your foes, or using the map or market etc.
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Darekish
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Posted - 2006.01.07 11:46:00 -
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you all seem very clued up on dual monitor stuff and its new to me so can anyone help?
I have a 3k Athlon 64 with 1 gb of mem and a Radeon X800 card and 21 & 17 inch monitors, dual monitor setup works fine usually but i REALY want to be able to run my two eve accounts on different screens so i can see both at once. Atm i run them on one (using alt-tab to swap between them) and do other stuff on the 17 inch as if i drag a client to the 17 inch everything grinds to a halt  . Anyone know a way to fix this, would a 2nd graphics card (would have to be a PCI as i only have 1 x agp slot) help?
I also run 2 instances of the client atm would running 2 seperate instalations help?
Thanks,
Dare.
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StreetRat
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Posted - 2006.01.09 08:46:00 -
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im not sure if its the same with Radeons, but im guessing it would be,
if you go to the options (escape) and under the graphics tab, next to display adapter you should have 2 items, probably say the same thing.
the first is primary monitor, the second is the secondary monitor, change the setting on the second account to the second device/option
it will still load on the default screen, and while its up the fps will go really bad, but just move it accross to the other screen and make sure they are completely on there own screen otherwise itll cause a problem
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Naok
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Posted - 2006.01.09 18:49:00 -
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Just a post to say I also would like dual monitor support, or at least, move the ship from the center of the screen
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DJCrimson
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Posted - 2006.01.10 04:24:00 -
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GUys who are trying to play on their secondary monitors, try going into prefs.ini in ur cache folder, and setting desktopPrimary=1 basically this tells eve your running it on ur secondary monitor.
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Naok
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Posted - 2006.01.14 02:43:00 -
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There is a utility to play in Window mode in one or more monitors.
If you are playing with one or more EVEs, you can fit the windows exactly to the bounds of the screen of your choice.
You can find it here http://www.orekaria.com/EVE/download.htm
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Phoenix1
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Posted - 2006.01.17 15:46:00 -
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/signed
I would love to see more support on multi monitors. 
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Naate
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Naate on 18/01/2006 12:32:48
Edited by: Naate on 18/01/2006 12:28:54
 Originally by: Darekish
you all seem very clued up on dual monitor stuff and its new to me so can anyone help?
I have a 3k Athlon 64 with 1 gb of mem and a Radeon X800 card and 21 & 17 inch monitors, dual monitor setup works fine usually but i REALY want to be able to run my two eve accounts on different screens so i can see both at once. Atm i run them on one (using alt-tab to swap between them) and do other stuff on the 17 inch as if i drag a client to the 17 inch everything grinds to a halt . Anyone know a way to fix this, would a 2nd graphics card (would have to be a PCI as i only have 1 x agp slot) help?
I also run 2 instances of the client atm would running 2 seperate instalations help?
Thanks,
Dare.
Hey there,
I think this may help somewhat.. I'm not at home to test this and I haven't attempted it yet myself only having one account to work with.. But it has some possibilities I think.
First of all, with the X800 we are lucky in that we get two devices when both monitors are connected, a primary and a secondary device. You will find that you can run the game well on either monitor provided that EVE is configured to use the monitor/device you're currently displaying it on.
My suggestion is this, first of all, configure the game to use your first account with first screen, then make a copy of prefs.ini and name it prefs.pri or somesuch.
Reload the game, configure it for your second monitor / device, and copy that prefs.ini file and rename it prefs.sec
Then as suggested by Zytrel in that prefs thread you can simply make a batch file to load the clients for you.
ie;
primary.bat
del prefs.ini
copy prefs.pri prefs.ini
eve
secondary.bat
del prefs.ini
copy prefs.sec prefs.ini
eve
been a while, but fairly sure copy will function like that and rename the file as it copies. :)
Edit to add: I would also like to add my support for full dualscreen support. DS ftw!
Edit to also add: You will have to run the clients in windowed mode for this to work, in FS mode they will minimise as you go from one to the other, defeating the purpose of it.
You can just click and drag the title bar so it resides in the top of the non visible section of the screen. Just click as low as possible on the title bar and drag up. Wont eliminate it entirely, but it does the trick. :)
I do that to get the full 1600x1200 on my main screen without losing any important parts of the client, so can run spreadsheets and IRC on my second monitor.
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DuckyWucky
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Posted - 2006.01.19 00:23:00 -
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just do what i do....
i have 3 computers side by side 
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Vincent Camaro
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Posted - 2006.01.22 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: DuckyWucky
just do what i do....
i have 3 computers side by side
Nice Idea!
I`d be so happy to be able to use my second screen in eve! Please CCD, make it possible 
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Shedle Nemar
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Posted - 2006.01.23 02:03:00 -
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Hey everyone...new guy here...I got a new free trial and I'm actually gonna go through the tutorial....I've got 2x21in monitors setup to my comp and I would love to do dual view.
from a lil googling...it looks like Eve Online was set to have Dual Monitor support....
http://www.gamershell.com/news/5554.html
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Naate
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Posted - 2006.01.24 12:16:00 -
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Don't suppose anyone was able to test the method I suggest to see if it worked for them? Would need a card that gives a primary and a secondary device to work, like the X800 does.
I don't have a 2nd acct to test with myself, so very curious to see whether or not it actually works.
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Paddan
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Posted - 2006.01.24 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Paddan on 24/01/2006 12:38:42
Wrong post, remove pls
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JawsOfDeath
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Posted - 2006.01.24 12:38:00 -
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Yeah i can say, changeing output in video options works very good. I manage to change 1 client long ago, and never got it to work again. After finding this, it worked @ first test.
But i do sugest u have 2 copys of eve, 1 for each screen, instead of messing with prefs.ini back and forward...
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DrkstHour
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Posted - 2006.01.25 08:07:00 -
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The problem with that is, most cards only support 2 monitors, the reason people have lag issues with 2 video cards and 2 monitors, is the hardware is just not cable of splitting the Video jobs in half to each card.
The Matrox 3 head cards WILL WORK. just Span the the Screen Across all 3 monitors. the Montiors CANNOT HAVE A SEPERATE Desktop. they must be one SPANNED desktop. Then load up eve and it will auto detect the Resoultion(you may have to select a new one).
I personally, can do this with 2 monitors no problem, because my hardware supports spanning. So if someone wants to buy the 3 head card and try it, you would be doing us all a great service.
BTW, the reason this would work good would be, the ship would be in the middle screen, with the weapon activators, and everything else on the sides.
another BTW. I'm been using 2 monitors, with Shiftwindow resizing my EVE to the first screen, i can surf on one screen, eve on the other, oooh yeah.
DrkstHour
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DrkstHour
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Posted - 2006.01.25 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: DrkstHour on 25/01/2006 08:10:30
AHA HAH!
Infact, lookie here!
Matrox Graphics
see that screenshot!?
what game is that!
AHA!
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Nevvyn
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Posted - 2006.01.27 09:44:00 -
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Actually, I've been running eve on a Matrox Parhelia Triple head, three 18.1" TFT setup for a year or so now without problem.. the FPS is a bit sucky in combat, but at 3840x1024 I guess that's to be expected.
What I would like to see is support for multiple clients in fullscreen mode.. I either end up running one client (Which, by the way, is FANTASTIC because you can have your main screen in the middle, and assets/chats/gang etc off to the side) and getting neck ache turning my head so much, or running two windowed clients and my mail/web in the third window.
S'very funky.. I'll try and put a pic up.
~ some times you're the dog, some times you're the tree. |
Ctair Pilru
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Posted - 2006.01.29 03:42:00 -
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Add another to the list of dual junkies.
I've been running dual 19's for almost a year now..could never go back to single.
Hmm..someday when I'm bored Ima plug up to my 52" HDTV and EVE away.
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Adocious
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Posted - 2006.02.16 08:44:00 -
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I second earlier posters. I think the idea of using dual monitors would raise the bar on all MoM games incredibly. It would suffice, as a poster earlier suggested, with a pure a modal screen.
Coming from a developer background I think that the big advantage of a "modal only" screen is primarily is that it would be the far easiest and fastest to implement. Especially since it would let the developers not have to allocate to vast memory and graphic card resources to the other screen, which could stay quite 2D. Another advantage of this solution is that it would not cause any "world"-related issues geom.
I recommend that we petition a feature request. All in favour?
Yours Sincerly
Adocious (j.hagstrom)
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Drallia
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Posted - 2006.02.22 22:24:00 -
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/signed
Dual Monitor User Wants modal on one side and views on the other.
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Jorrd Ceribrius
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Posted - 2006.02.28 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jorrd Ceribrius on 28/02/2006 23:24:51
Edited by: Jorrd Ceribrius on 28/02/2006 23:24:10
I have dual 19" screens. I would love it if EVE could be set up to have the information windows on the secondary monitor also.
/signed
I tried out spanning them but having the ship in the middle like that and the 3" black bar of the screen edge completely ruines it for me.
I also tried Start EVE as someone above suggested and that works great for having it not minimize on you everytime you click something out of the client. Thanks for that suggestion.
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Ehtok
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Posted - 2006.03.04 02:50:00 -
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this game absolutely would benefit so much from having a second screen for all the windows that come up ... at 1280x1024 i get annoyed when i run out of room to put things and have to start stacking things etc (my only real disappointment with the game). it happens all the time.
i run two 17" LCD's to escape that in windows ... it would be great for EVE to be able to use both panels without just panning accross both 50/50.
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Silthis Marna
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Posted - 2006.03.07 01:08:00 -
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Matrox have recently announced a triple head version of their DualHead2Go, called, well, TripleHead2Go.
I've yet to try it, but Matrox have a page at http://www.matrox.com/graphics/offhome/gxm.cfm |
Talae
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Posted - 2006.03.21 03:56:00 -
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Just got a second monitor, I'd love to see this functionality. Very frustrating atm.
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Vapid Gallentaki
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Posted - 2006.03.24 18:03:00 -
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I also would like to see not just multimonitor but multivideo support. My current card has two DVI outs, but I will be getting another soon which will have two more. I plan on having three screens for gaming and a fourth for desktop usage. Being able to span across the three screens full-screen (non-windowed) would be a real pleasure.
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Mannheim Chong
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Posted - 2006.04.02 18:04:00 -
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This used to work prior to the last patch, but now I can't get the second instance to run without terrible stuttering. Used to be ok. Any ideas? Thanks.
Originally by: DJCrimson
GUys who are trying to play on their secondary monitors, try going into prefs.ini in ur cache folder, and setting desktopPrimary=1 basically this tells eve your running it on ur secondary monitor.
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