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Lord breathenstein
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:05:00 -
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http://www.theblaze.com/news/libya-attacks/
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:14:00 -
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Wow. I didn't look at any of the actual content, but by look and headlines the site just screams "unrealiable" and "trash"  |

Jim Era
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:15:00 -
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nah everybodys known about this. we knew about it before it happened. |

Lord breathenstein
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:23:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Wow. I didn't look at any of the actual content, but by look and headlines the site just screams "unrealiable" and "trash" 
Your calling this trash ?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/
Or perhaps you just think it's funny ? |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.10.26 14:28:00 -
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Sounds like a republican smear attempt to me. |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.26 15:13:00 -
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Yeah I've been following this closely since 9/11 from all the angles. This is beyond elections or politics. They knew. I mean drones or not, they have been able to image a coin from satellites for over 20 years at a moments notice. And they absolutely have drones over that region 24/7. They even had eyes on the ground with targeting lasers on the mortars, undoubtedly. This is as bad as bad can be. |

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.10.26 15:34:00 -
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Webvan wrote:This is as bad as bad can be.
Nah, Pearl Harbor was worse.
This sort of thing is neither new or shocking. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:14:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Webvan wrote:This is as bad as bad can be. Nah, Pearl Harbor was worse. This sort of thing is neither new or shocking. This is here and now, our responsibility. I didn't say new or shocking, but bad. So you were shocked over Pearl Harbor? You are a lot older than me. The nasty details were uncovered long before I was born. I do remember operation eagle claw in 1979 very well, this is 100x worse. Not only fail, but cover-up, and fail cover-up. Contemptible. |

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
580
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:26:00 -
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I was just establishing the trend. Which goes beyond whatever president may be elected at the time.
Many people are all excited about how they can pin this on Obama, but that's all a side show. Ignore the man behind the curtain! "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:41:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:I was just establishing the trend. Which goes beyond whatever president may be elected at the time.
Many people are all excited about how they can pin this on Obama, but that's all a side show. Ignore the man behind the curtain! In whatever case, this administration is intertwined. Even the liberal media has been starting to suggest he just come out with it. As for pinning this on Obama, or someones previous comment it is republican whatever, I'm a US citizen and not a Republican. This transcends political alignment. It's really a matter of getting to the bottom of this so that we don't see a repeat in the near future.
But nonetheless, ibtl, eventually someone will come by and say trash to attempt a forced lock, just like has happened multiple times on the memorial thread in GD.
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baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:58:00 -
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Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society. |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.26 17:50:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society. You're 14yo and live in the UK? Right? You have Glenn Beck there? You know we had hearings on cspan here? That's Glenn Beck too?
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
470
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:01:00 -
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Webvan wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society. You're 14yo and live in the UK? Right? You have Glenn Beck there? You know we had hearings on cspan here? That's Glenn Beck too? I watched the hearings, live, I don't recall seeing Glenn Beck there. no, they have (had?) The Sun. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:06:00 -
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Webvan wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its a Glenn Beck pet project site. It has around the same sort of factual quality as the flat earth society. You're 14yo and live in the UK? Right? You have Glenn Beck there? You know we had hearings on cspan here? That's Glenn Beck too?
Even over here we know him as a moronic republican who will stoop to any low. This whole thing is a disgusting example of someone trying to gain poltitical points by telling lies about a tragic event. An event in which a good friend of many in EVE was attacked while chatting with them and murdered.
Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him. |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:18:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him. I can defend him if I want. However I don't see in my post where I did. Nor would I. Discussing Beck really adds nothing to the conversation, nor does Beck diminish what has been going on here including testimony of those involved as well as family members of the dead that are demanding accountability on these issues, and very well should be. |

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
582
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him.
I have a hate for Glenn Beck that burns with the fire of a thousand suns myself, but don't outright ignore everything that has even a casual association with him. Read what's there and judge for yourself what the truth is. If needed, do research.
So many people act like you either have to accept something without question or deny it without investigation. There's another way, you know. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:44:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dont try to defend a man like Glenn Beck and never belive a word from him. I have a hate for Glenn Beck that burns with the fire of a thousand suns myself, but don't outright ignore everything that has even a casual association with him. Read what's there and judge for yourself what the truth is. If needed, do research. So many people act like you either have to accept something without question or deny it without investigation. There's another way, you know.
I read through all of that. Its nothing but speculation and rumours twisted into something to suit his political goals. He even got in contact with reletives and fed them this stuff for his radio show. |

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
582
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:58:00 -
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I said i disagree with all the stuff trying to make it about Obama. But not because i lurv Obama or anything, i just don't think the president has the kind of absolute control over everything some others do.
Just find the details of the attack itself are fairly accurate, and can be found from other, non-Beck related, sources. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:12:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
I read through all of that. Its nothing but speculation and rumours twisted into something to suit his political goals. He even got in contact with reletives and fed them this stuff for his radio show.
Here, try [https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=Benghazi]google news search on Benghazi[/url], it's what I often use though not exclusively. I put the topic over the OP's link, since I don't follow The Blaze at all. I can only assume that the link will work, since you are in a different country. Currently it's linking to Fox News, Forbes, Washington Examiner, CBS News, American Thinker, CNN (blog) etc etc. I think the Forbes article is the most interesting.
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Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
617
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:26:00 -
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Some things are kept secret or obfuscated by subterfuge to protect the people from their own inability to understand the complexities of a world that is beyond them. - Aaron Bongart
I figured I would quote myself for once. Xenuria CSM 8 |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:35:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Some things are kept secret or obfuscated by subterfuge to protect the people from their own inability to understand the complexities of a world that is beyond them. - Aaron Bongart
I figured I would quote myself for once.
Sure, but even the email transmissions from Benghazi during the incident were designated as sensitive but not secret. We have a freedom of information act. This is not the type of event that would warrant an exception. We are not subjects of a crown. |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
617
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Posted - 2012.10.26 19:40:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Xenuria wrote:Some things are kept secret or obfuscated by subterfuge to protect the people from their own inability to understand the complexities of a world that is beyond them. - Aaron Bongart
I figured I would quote myself for once. Sure, but even the email transitions from Benghazi during the incident were designated as sensitive but not secret. We have a freedom of information act. This is not the type of event that would warrant an exception.
I said secret OR obfuscated by subterfuge.
Is this mess horrible? Yes. Does it smell fishy? Yes. Am I going to stick my nose in it and search for a truth that the knowledge of which ultimately leads to more questions? No.
No government is perfect... Xenuria CSM 8 |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2012.10.26 20:05:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:
Is this mess horrible? Yes. Does it smell fishy? Yes. Am I going to stick my nose in it and search for a truth that the knowledge of which ultimately leads to more questions? No.
No government is perfect...
Like I edited in, we are not subjects of a crown. Quite true, no government is perfect, that's why our form of government is subject to the people, not the other way around. GÇ£All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.GÇ¥ ~Thomas Jefferson GÇ£Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2012.10.26 21:52:00 -
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I see tin foil isn't just a meme for capsuleers, you guys live by it. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.10.26 22:12:00 -
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This kind of topic isn't suited to the EVE forums and is covered in the forum rules.
Forum Rules wrote:
7. 7. It shouldn't be necessary to do so, but it appears that some players feel the need to inflict their viewpoints on race, religion, politics, and other hot topic opinions on other players. These discussions will not be tolerated anywhere on the EVE forums. Players that cannot follow this guideline can lose their posting privileges immediately. This is the sole warning that will be issued regarding this.
Thread locked. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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