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DigitalUtopia
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Posted - 2005.03.31 16:24:00 -
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About two weeks ago, an experienced PvP mercenary corp known as Finite Horizon declared war on our n00b corp. At first, we thought it was an old corpmate who had just hired them to start a war and help us train. Many of us jumped in our frigates with the intention of learning as much as we could from these masters. We knew that we stood no chance, so we decided to use it as an educational tool to explore the PvP side of the game.
Shortly after a few chats, the warring members pointed out that they were not trainers, and in fact they were truly attempting to 'make us suffer'. It was decided that it didn't matter why they started war with us, that they filled a void that we sorely needed to have filled, and that they would prove useful despite any foul intentions.
This prompted several more dialogues between us and them regarding the value of what was happening. It seems that both sides think differently. We apparently do not play this game by the same set of rules. And now we seek outside opinion to clarify these points.
Our position is that EVE is an MMO, and that the true value of it is building relationships with like-minded folks to share an enjoyable experience. The enjoyment ranges from PvP to mining to conversations to exploration - really anything that someone sees as entertainment. The biggest entertaining factor for many of us in our corp is conversation. Many in their corp believe the most entertaining prospect is demonstrating elite PvP skills. So far, it would seem that no one loses, and everyone gets what they want.
Apparently the members of Finite Horizon do not enjoy the conversational side the same as we do, as they have blocked many of the members from in-game convo, forcing us to create alts to chat. They have blocked those as well. Thus, we must take our discussion to these public forums to further the dialogue. We feel that the reaction we get from our 'enemy' is the best entertainment that money can buy, so it prompts us to continue more dialogue.
So I invite comments from anyone who has an opinion on the matter, including Finite Horizon. Why can our 'enemies' not understand that this is the most entertainment we've ever had, and it gives us a chance to work together as a group? They are well written in these forums and seem like decent gentleman. Are they not capable of understanding this?
Try convo'ing them in-game to find out what I mean. For those who love conversation, it's a hoot.
Respectfully,
UnHolyD
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Calderio
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Posted - 2005.03.31 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Calderio on 31/03/2005 16:40:00
The sad truth is you were probally war dec'd because you were seen as a week corporation that they could score some easy kills off of. Sometimes pvp corps get bored when they dont have enough targets to shoot at so they find an easy target.
Ive scouted out empire corps to be war dec'd for bored pirate corps in the past. The motive is simple, they want easy kills.
My advice is to disband the corp and move along. Dont forget about your old friends in the game, always keep a public room open. In time the wounds will heal and the ships will be replaced. If you do well enough there may come a time for revenge, and that should be your focus on this game from here on out. Super secret ninja omg were did this come from revenge.
Convo'ing them will only make them laugh. Thats probally what they did the first and the second time you convoed them. After that it probally just got to be sad and they didnt want to hear about it any more. Or they were too busy killing your corp mates and the convos were becoming a distraction.
yarrr...
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2005.03.31 16:40:00 -
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Yep they only want the easy prey cause thats probably all they can manage . But do not disband your corp as the other dude said . Give em hell thats what i say .
Or hire someone to give em hell .
Convo me in game if you wanna work out some deals . :)
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Bat Masterson
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Posted - 2005.03.31 16:47:00 -
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I've posted with an alt because I have this odd feeling that anyone who posts in this thread is going to get 9000 unwanted covo requests per day.
Being convo'd by people you don't know or aren't interested in talking to is annoying, mkay?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.03.31 16:49:00 -
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Hilarious, top marks on your "talking the enemy" to distraction tactic. Its brilliant psyops to engage a bunch of professional killers in amusing dialogue to give them doubts about their motivations and role in the engagement. If they end up seeing you as inviduals and people in your own right it will slowly lead to a dawning of comprehension and true enlightenment. They'll drop the hostility, come to see you as friends and comrades, - linguistic interchange will flourish, you'll share the cultures of your various corps and might even end up mining together and becoming rich.
*****
Thats when you strike!
Bunch of gankaggedons with sensor boosters and 20 range scramblers right on top of their mining ships to a cloaked gang member acting as a warp-to point.
Murder them all! Muahhahhahah, that'll teach them to emphasise with the enemy.
/this has been an instructional broadcast from Jasmine's guide to combat ettiquette.
Star Fraction
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.03.31 16:58:00 -
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I appreciate the offers for help, but at this time, we don't think it's necessary. Some day, it may be.
On convo being annoying: that is the basis of this discussion. Some feel it is entertaining, others do not like it. The same logic applies to PvP. Both are fair and exist equally in the game, to be enjoyed by all.
On this being psych ops: That principle applies, but it reality, this is just a game. I wouldn't mind it if every time they see a stranger, they wonder if it's me, or when they see their spouses, they think "UnHolyD". That's actually pretty funny stuff. Moreover, though, we are just enjoying the game the same as them, only apparently in a different way. To each, his own.
I avoided naming them purposefully.
UnHolyD
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Epofhis
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Posted - 2005.03.31 17:42:00 -
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well, tbh it can be used as a sploit tactic, so be careful how u employ it, thats prob why they stopped accepting your convos tbh... And quite frankly, most pvp'er would rather kill u than talk to u, only kind of convos I like r one of two, 1 being hate convos 2 being hate mails.. they r just so damn funny
there are you happy now, my sig fits every rule. Now, no delete me pls, I promise to be good!!!11010101!! |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.03.31 17:47:00 -
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Hi, the following is a small quote from our "conversation" with Mr.unholyd;
 Originally by: unholyd
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:01 ] DigitalUtopia > when you are with your girlfriend or wife, getting intimate, imagine me. I will be there.
Lets couple that up with this;
Originally by: unholyd
I wouldn't mind it if every time they see a stranger, they wonder if it's me, or when they see their spouses, they think "UnHolyD". That's actually pretty funny stuff.
You sir, are a nutcase. You will be treated accordingly. When you contacted me, I was going to have a nice conversation like I do with every other random person that convoes me, but Digitalcommunist warned me immediatly of your CUNNING PSYCH-OPS TACTIC, so you got this instead;
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[ 2005.03.31 14:32:04 ] Viceroy > hi! :D
[ 2005.03.31 14:32:06 ] DigitalUtopia > i wanted to introduce myself
[ 2005.03.31 14:32:14 ] DigitalUtopia > I am UnHolyD...this is an alt character
[ 2005.03.31 14:32:25 ] Viceroy > o_O
[ 2005.03.31 14:32:35 ] DigitalUtopia > You are quite well-read and schooled, or so i read on the forums
[ 2005.03.31 14:32:44 ] DigitalUtopia > right now, you are at war with our corp
[ 2005.03.31 14:33:01 ] Viceroy > Indeed!
[ 2005.03.31 14:33:08 ] DigitalUtopia > I just wanted to say that we look forward to working together, and hope to learn much from your experience
[ 2005.03.31 14:33:41 ] Viceroy > I'm going to rip off your head and drink your blood.
[ 2005.03.31 14:33:45 ] DigitalUtopia > Digi doesn't feel that convo is a part of the game, but i feel it is the best part
[ 2005.03.31 14:33:59 ] Viceroy > I don't. I'll break your legs and kill your family if you convo me again.
[ 2005.03.31 14:33:59 ] DigitalUtopia > do you like blood?
[ 2005.03.31 14:34:08 ] Viceroy > No I don't.
[ 2005.03.31 14:34:11 ] DigitalUtopia > lol...is that a threat, young man?
[ 2005.03.31 14:34:18 ] Viceroy > Yes It is.
[ 2005.03.31 14:34:36 ] DigitalUtopia > is your goal to get us to cancel our subscriptions?
[ 2005.03.31 14:35:09 ] Viceroy > No, but if you do, that's a bonus.
[ 2005.03.31 14:35:28 ] DigitalUtopia > i gotta tell ya, talking with you guys is the best entertainment that money can buy
[ 2005.03.31 14:35:35 ] DigitalUtopia > you're wound too tightly
[ 2005.03.31 14:35:42 ] DigitalUtopia > relax. it's just a game
[ 2005.03.31 14:35:51 ] DigitalUtopia > no need to go threatening families and whatnot
[ 2005.03.31 14:35:58 ] Viceroy > I'll cut off your fingers and feed your family to my slavers
[ 2005.03.31 14:36:07 ] DigitalUtopia > but the consideration is appreciated
[ 2005.03.31 14:36:29 ] DigitalUtopia > nah...you'll end up being my friend, and you don't even realize it
[ 2005.03.31 14:36:56 ] Viceroy > I'll burn down your ship
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:01 ] DigitalUtopia > when you are with your girlfriend or wife, getting intimate, imagine me. I will be there.
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:19 ] DigitalUtopia > See me in your sleep. I will be there, too
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:34 ] DigitalUtopia > my name is UnHolyD. Remember it.
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:41 ] DigitalUtopia > we will be long-time friends
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:46 ] Viceroy > I'll give your girlfriend and wife to my Brutor slaves
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:56 ] DigitalUtopia > boyfriend, not gf
[ 2005.03.31 14:38:08 ] DigitalUtopia > see...you mis-interpret my intentions already
[ 2005.03.31 14:38:22 ] Viceroy > Mis-interpret my tachyons, weakling.
[ 2005.03.31 14:38:38 ] DigitalUtopia > PvP is not what this game is about.
[ 2005.03.31 14:38:46 ] DigitalUtopia > it's about conversation and friends
[ 2005.03.31 14:38:51 ] DigitalUtopia > screw leaving stations
[ 2005.03.31 14:39:07 ] Viceroy > I'll burn down your station.
[ 2005.03.31 14:39:25 ] DigitalUtopia > so how much time do you think you can give me each day?
[ 2005.03.31 14:39:41 ] DigitalUtopia > because i need to devote more time to digi, not you
[ 2005.03.31 14:39:42 ] Viceroy > I'll shove a clock down your throat
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:07 ] Viceroy > I'll devote a squadron of Sebestior gangmembers to you
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:16 ] DigitalUtopia > He's the one I want. not you. But we can be friends too. Jesus preaches forgiveness. And I forgive you
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:29 ] Viceroy > Hmm wait what is this
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:35 ] Viceroy > I just recieved an intelligence memo
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:40 ] Viceroy > it says here that you're a moron
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:43 ] Viceroy > goodbye!
At this point my fragile mentality was being crushed by your psycho-manipulative attacks, so I had to dock at the nearest station and take some valium to calm down.
(PS: No I'm not going to kill anyones family irl. It was an IC response from a pirate.)
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Percivs
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Posted - 2005.03.31 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
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Thats when you strike!
Bunch of gankaggedons with sensor boosters and 20 range scramblers right on top of their mining ships to a cloaked gang member acting as a warp-to point.
Murder them all! Muahhahhahah, that'll teach them to emphasise with the enemy.
/this has been an instructional broadcast from Jasmine's guide to combat ettiquette.
Best. Plan. Evah.
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.03.31 17:53:00 -
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Viceroy,
Do you see now why I say that convo is the best part of the game? You can't buy this type of fun anywhere else.
You just devoted more of your thought and time to me, and took time out of your day to post this. You WANT to see what I will say next. It entertains you as well, otherwise you would not have replied.
I believe you enjoy this as much as I do. Haven't you had this experience before?
UnHolyD
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.03.31 17:58:00 -
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hmmmmmm this is very interesting. From that convo I think its possible to conclude that you didn't completely pwn that guy Viceroy. I want to see where this psyops war goes tbh. Realistically speaking I think we can say.
"the force is strong in DigitalUtopia"
Star Fraction
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: LoxyRider on 31/03/2005 18:04:52
Viceroy ftw tbh...
Edit: and Omg Epofhis, the sig  .
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Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:05:00 -
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I'm terribly sorry, but where I come from, we usually have a laugh with pseudo-Freud attention *****s who think they're so very smart.
 <--- laugh
Back to the game now. Goodbye.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
I'm terribly sorry, but where I come from, we usually have a laugh with pseudo-Freud attention *****s who think they're so very smart.
<--- laugh
Back to the game now. Goodbye.
Come back with more chatlogs later Viceroy !!! I wanna see how it turns out.
Star Fraction
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Raytesh
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Raytesh on 31/03/2005 18:13:40
Its no wonder you didnt get any conversations out of them. Your trying to do pyshcological warfare on ex- m0o. Sorry that aint gonna work and coming here to the forums wont work either. They're gonna teach you pvp and well your gonna learn the hard way.
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DigitalUtopia
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:19:00 -
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Chatlogs will be hard to come by. I have to wait 10 hours for each alt, so it can only happen a few times per day until others jump in.
I can't say that I am a smart person, Viceroy, and I certainly don't know Freud's teachings. But I do know good fun when I see it. And you guys just keep dishing it out. ;)
You're responses are getting better, and you seem to be getting the gist of this. I can see by the writing that you are getting calmer, so one day it may turn into friendship.
DigiCom was more funny. I thought his head was going to pop. If he has those logs, please post them for a good read.
Like I said before, you will be my friend if it takes 3 years and 1000 alts. And it's because you guys provide the biggest challenge in a video game that we have ever seen. And convo is the way to do it.
I just have to stay at the forefront of your attention, and make me the focus of your hatred to turn it.
UnHolyD
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Shamen
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: UnHolyD
Viceroy,
Do you see now why I say that convo is the best part of the game? You can't buy this type of fun anywhere else.
You just devoted more of your thought and time to me, and took time out of your day to post this. You WANT to see what I will say next. It entertains you as well, otherwise you would not have replied.
I believe you enjoy this as much as I do. Haven't you had this experience before?
UnHolyD
Lol, i love you.
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:36:00 -
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It took me a while, but I found out how to post those chatlogs. I have them! Here's the first communication with Digi:
Quote:
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Channel ID: (('convo', ((30131000103L, 29051001101L), (1071402087, 1020999817, None), (235103256, 1226759085, None))),)
Channel Name: DigitalCommunist Conversation
Listener: UnHolyD
Session started: 2005.03.29 19:37:57
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[ 2005.03.29 19:38:18 ] DigitalCommunist > ....?
[ 2005.03.29 19:38:26 ] UnHolyD > hey DC! you guys are awesome trainers. are you up for more hunting tonight?
[ 2005.03.29 19:38:50 ] DigitalCommunist > /emote shrugs
[ 2005.03.29 19:39:09 ] UnHolyD > GFL gave us a great run last night. he said you use a different style
[ 2005.03.29 19:39:39 ] UnHolyD > I got a bunch of other guys who need the PvP experience to join up. Watching you in action has been a good lesson
[ 2005.03.29 19:39:51 ] DigitalCommunist > i see
[ 2005.03.29 19:40:10 ] UnHolyD > i heard you were trainers for m0o
[ 2005.03.29 19:40:14 ] UnHolyD > it shows
[ 2005.03.29 19:40:26 ] UnHolyD > GFL rocked me three times so far
[ 2005.03.29 19:40:26 ] DigitalCommunist > trainers?
[ 2005.03.29 19:40:39 ] UnHolyD > yeah... that you guys used to train m0o players
[ 2005.03.29 19:40:59 ] DigitalCommunist > you don't join m0o to learn
[ 2005.03.29 19:41:05 ] DigitalCommunist > if you don't know your ****, you get kicked out
[ 2005.03.29 19:41:29 ] UnHolyD > can't say that I would know, but in either way, it's been a good run learning from you
[ 2005.03.29 19:41:53 ] UnHolyD > will you accept an offer to fight multiple small ships?
[ 2005.03.29 19:42:10 ] UnHolyD > we need to start learning how to tackle a larger foe using frigs and whatnot
[ 2005.03.29 19:42:41 ] DigitalCommunist > its a war, not a dueling arena.. i'm not here to teach you, i'm here to kill you
[ 2005.03.29 19:42:48 ] DigitalCommunist > fight with what you want
[ 2005.03.29 19:43:01 ] UnHolyD > you have. many times. it's all good as part of this game
[ 2005.03.29 19:43:23 ] UnHolyD > i thought that was the point - to learn while we can. you guys do it well as an example
[ 2005.03.29 19:43:47 ] UnHolyD > we never have seen this in a video game, so it got the attention of all the new guys who want to try PvP
[ 2005.03.29 19:43:49 ] DigitalCommunist > well thats good for you, but i'm not doing any special arrangements
[ 2005.03.29 19:44:43 ] UnHolyD > You guys are good, what can we say?
[ 2005.03.29 19:44:52 ] DigitalCommunist > if you want to try your luck in smaller ships, i'll be heading that way later
[ 2005.03.29 19:45:41 ] UnHolyD > cool. thanks! This 'war' stuff is such a neat aspect of the game. I never seen a MMO quite like it. Do you guys roleplay?
[ 2005.03.29 19:46:04 ] DigitalCommunist > uh, depends
[ 2005.03.29 19:46:12 ] DigitalCommunist > what you define as roleplay
[ 2005.03.29 19:46:12 ] UnHolyD > ? on what?
[ 2005.03.29 19:46:20 ] UnHolyD > oh... like 'in character'
[ 2005.03.29 19:47:09 ] UnHolyD > GFL was good at it
[ 2005.03.29 19:47:11 ] DigitalCommunist > depends what you accept as in character, most in character pirates would get accused of smacktalking
[ 2005.03.29 19:47:51 ] UnHolyD > I have seen a couple of good pirates who seemed to roleplay. No one needs to smacktalk.
[ 2005.03.29 19:48:22 ] DigitalCommunist > hey, drayhawk here in local
[ 2005.03.29 19:48:27 ] DigitalCommunist > he going to come back?
[ 2005.03.29 19:48:38 ] UnHolyD > dunno. we were too many players for him
[ 2005.03.29 19:49:01 ] UnHolyD > he liked playing with some local friends of his
[ 2005.03.29 19:49:17 ] DigitalCommunist > raphaelle?
[ 2005.03.29 19:49:42 ] UnHolyD > i just heard that he left. I never found out why. How did you know that? it happened, like, yesterday
[ 2005.03.29 19:50:08 ] DigitalCommunist > I have your member list
[ 2005.03.29 19:50:18 ] UnHolyD > lol...it's all fair in war, eh?
[ 2005.03.29 19:50:58 ] UnHolyD > that's cool. looks like we'll be seeing a lot of each other.
[ 2005.03.29 19:51:07 ] DigitalCommunist > yes
[ 2005.03.29 19:51:12 ] DigitalCommunist > later
[ 2005.03.29 19:51:16 ] UnHolyD > bye!
[ 2005.03.29 19:51:20 ] UnHolyD > thx
So that was the intro...
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:38:00 -
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the next convo:
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[ 2005.03.29 22:31:33 ] DigitalCommunist > why do you insist on convoing me
[ 2005.03.29 22:31:34 ] UnHolyD > hiyo. we've got a bunch of folks ready in the small ships
[ 2005.03.29 22:31:57 ] UnHolyD > we are going to 0.4 space in passari, as not all of them are in the corp
[ 2005.03.29 22:32:16 ] UnHolyD > because you are here. that's why. it's a cool game. is that wrong?
[ 2005.03.29 22:32:48 ] UnHolyD > you blinked out by accident
[ 2005.03.29 22:33:19 ] UnHolyD > will you help us?
[ 2005.03.29 22:33:25 ] DigitalCommunist > stop convoing me
[ 2005.03.29 22:33:29 ] UnHolyD > why?
[ 2005.03.29 22:33:39 ] DigitalCommunist > you're annoying, just fight the god damn war
[ 2005.03.29 22:33:54 ] UnHolyD > we are! but this is what the game is for!
[ 2005.03.29 22:34:39 ] UnHolyD > We are trying to fight. that's what the game is for. Convo is a part of the game, too
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next convo:
[ 2005.03.30 19:49:40 ] Rels Lacor > hey babe! we still fighting?
[ 2005.03.30 19:52:02 ] Rels Lacor > Read my last eve-mail. Do you see how this all came about now?
[ 2005.03.30 19:53:27 ] Rels Lacor > afk for a sec...take your time
[ 2005.03.30 20:00:47 ] DigitalCommunist > What exactly do you want from me?
[ 2005.03.30 20:07:29 ] Rels Lacor > back from my shower... you still there?
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:39:00 -
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[ 2005.03.30 20:16:00 ] DigitalCommunist > :|
[ 2005.03.30 20:16:04 ] DigitalCommunist > You again
[ 2005.03.30 20:16:38 ] DigitalCommunist > I keep going afk and coming back to convo/mail spam, give me a reason not to block your alt too
[ 2005.03.30 20:16:57 ] Rels Lacor > you say you were sent to fight us, but no one believes you now because it all seems to weird. While we have you, we are going to use you.
[ 2005.03.30 20:17:59 ] DigitalCommunist > that doesn't even make sense
[ 2005.03.30 20:18:02 ] DigitalCommunist > what you just said
[ 2005.03.30 20:18:07 ] Rels Lacor > That's what I've been saying!
[ 2005.03.30 20:18:23 ] DigitalCommunist > look
[ 2005.03.30 20:18:25 ] Rels Lacor > We had a guy in our corp who wanted us to learn PvP...
[ 2005.03.30 20:18:30 ] DigitalCommunist > I'm going to tell you, what I told your silly ceo
[ 2005.03.30 20:18:37 ] Rels Lacor > ?
[ 2005.03.30 20:19:02 ] DigitalCommunist > someone doesn't like you, and considering you have some very big mouthed members in your corp, I wouldn't put it past anyone to hold a grudge
[ 2005.03.30 20:19:20 ] DigitalCommunist > this someone is obviously willing to pay some isk to see your corp suffer
[ 2005.03.30 20:19:28 ] Rels Lacor > that's true of any corp. That's what makes this game fun
[ 2005.03.30 20:19:33 ] Rels Lacor > suffer?
[ 2005.03.30 20:19:49 ] DigitalCommunist > and thats where we come in, we do merc jobs, we're not here to train you in pvp.. if you learn something out of being shot down then at least theres hope for you in the future
[ 2005.03.30 20:20:05 ] Rels Lacor > you may want to work on your strategy. Most people are starting to get the hint that this is a game
[ 2005.03.30 20:20:07 ] DigitalCommunist > meanwhile, im not going to make any special accommodations, if you want to fight back, go ahead
[ 2005.03.30 20:20:27 ] Rels Lacor > I'll make you my friend, no matter how many alts it takes
[ 2005.03.30 20:20:40 ] DigitalCommunist > but your members seem to think its a ******* dueling arena, and they're asking me for setups
[ 2005.03.30 20:21:02 ] Rels Lacor > are you giving them help?
[ 2005.03.30 20:21:57 ] DigitalCommunist > no, we're at war.. on any other day I might, but its my job to see your corp lose horribly
[ 2005.03.30 20:22:03 ] DigitalCommunist > otherwise i dont get my isks, ok?
[ 2005.03.30 20:22:31 ] Rels Lacor > well...what would it take to get you paid? maybe i can help you.
[ 2005.03.30 20:23:03 ] DigitalCommunist > your ceo is not very good at communicating details, I already spoke to him about this
[ 2005.03.30 20:23:11 ] Rels Lacor > he's a kid
[ 2005.03.30 20:23:22 ] Rels Lacor > what would you expect?
[ 2005.03.30 20:23:43 ] DigitalCommunist > yeah? well does this kid know how to use a damn forum or corpmail? I told him why he was being attacked, for how much, and what it would take to end it
[ 2005.03.30 20:24:01 ] Rels Lacor > funny that he never said anything to us. Is he in on it, too?
[ 2005.03.30 20:24:10 ] DigitalCommunist > so if you can't get that information out of him, its none of my business, because I won't be repeating myself to every one of your members who shoots me a puzzled look
[ 2005.03.30 20:24:53 ] Rels Lacor > ah... he's a good guy. Us retirees have nothing better to do with our days. That's what makes talking to you so attractive.. i can learn something from someone younger than myself
[ 2005.03.30 20:25:15 ] Rels Lacor > that's what makes this community so good
[ 2005.03.30 20:25:45 ] DigitalCommunist > /emote tightens his noose
[ 2005.03.30 20:25:52 ] DigitalCommunist > question
[ 2005.03.30 20:25:53 ] Rels Lacor > but you seem to get upset over it. Relax...it's all fun.
[ 2005.03.30 20:25:57 ] Rels Lacor > shoot,sir
[ 2005.03.30 20:26:27 ] DigitalCommunist > whats with all this training you keep throwing about, thats what has me confused the most
[ 2005.03.30 20:26:36 ] Rels Lacor > did you read my eve-mail?
[ 2005.03.30 20:27:21 ] DigitalCommunist > something about some guy wanting to 'train' you
[ 2005.03.30 20:27:59 ] Rels Lacor > yes. that's what everyone thinks is going on...that a former corpmate paid you to start a war with us as our PvP training. we already know you can beat us down well. That's why we've moved to frigates
[ 2005.03.30 20:28:16 ] Rels Lacor > I'm starting to think that you don't know this
[ 2005.03.30 20:28:46 ] Rels Lacor > Most of the members now embrace the idea
[ 2005.03.30 20:29:00 ] DigitalCommunist > well its wrong
[ 2005.03.30 20:29:11 ] Rels Lacor > how so?
[ 2005.03.30 20:29:36 ] Rels Lacor > You're here, aren't you? That means that you fit the bill, no matter why you are here
[ 2005.03.30 20:29:49 ] Rels Lacor > so you're stuck with us, mate. Like it or leave it
[ 2005.03.30 20:29:57 ] DigitalCommunist > You still don't get it.
[ 2005.03.30 20:30:03 ] DigitalCommunist > I'm not here to train you.
[ 2005.03.30 20:30:11 ] DigitalCommunist > The person who hired us.. does
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:40:00 -
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[ 2005.03.30 20:30:11 ] DigitalCommunist > The person who hired us.. doesn't LIKE you.
[ 2005.03.30 20:30:15 ] Rels Lacor > i don't have to. this is a fun video game
[ 2005.03.30 20:30:21 ] Rels Lacor > good! a challenger!
[ 2005.03.30 20:30:24 ] DigitalCommunist > If he wanted us to HELP you learn, I'd be HELPING your corpmates with setups.
[ 2005.03.30 20:30:58 ] Rels Lacor > you let us know the stuffs you use as you use it, mostly
[ 2005.03.30 20:31:33 ] Rels Lacor > So what happens now?
[ 2005.03.30 20:31:56 ] Rels Lacor > I have to tell you, this is the most fun I have had in a long time
[ 2005.03.30 20:32:10 ] DigitalCommunist > Maybe, but it might not be so fun after a while.
[ 2005.03.30 20:32:14 ] Rels Lacor > It's like a big spy-game
[ 2005.03.30 20:32:35 ] Rels Lacor > why would it not be fun?
[ 2005.03.30 20:32:53 ] DigitalCommunist > Because its our job, and we're quite good at it.
[ 2005.03.30 20:33:01 ] Rels Lacor > We know. That's why we like you
[ 2005.03.30 20:33:21 ] Rels Lacor > No one else pays this much attention
[ 2005.03.30 20:33:37 ] DigitalCommunist > You may like us, but nobody in their sane mind is going to like being murdered over and over for weeks on end.
[ 2005.03.30 20:33:56 ] Rels Lacor > If we learn from it, then it's good
[ 2005.03.30 20:34:15 ] Rels Lacor > it's like a fox hunt with the impossible rabbit
[ 2005.03.30 20:34:21 ] DigitalCommunist > Learning implies you understand what to do and what not to do.
[ 2005.03.30 20:34:23 ] Rels Lacor > always give you something to work for
[ 2005.03.30 20:34:33 ] DigitalCommunist > Even if you do everything correctly, you will still lose
[ 2005.03.30 20:34:45 ] DigitalCommunist > In the end, only frustration, despite it being just a game.
[ 2005.03.30 20:34:46 ] Rels Lacor > i know. you reward by teaching
[ 2005.03.30 20:35:05 ] Rels Lacor > the challenge is to make you my personal friend
[ 2005.03.30 20:35:08 ] Rels Lacor > or one of you guys
[ 2005.03.30 20:35:44 ] DigitalCommunist > What? What makes you think thats going to happen.
[ 2005.03.30 20:35:46 ] Rels Lacor > that's why this game is neat. not the trading or fighting or mining
[ 2005.03.30 20:35:58 ] Rels Lacor > because you will always be around me
[ 2005.03.30 20:36:15 ] Rels Lacor > if you are fighting me, that gives us time together to chat and have a conversation
[ 2005.03.30 20:36:26 ] Rels Lacor > isn't that really what mmo's are about?
[ 2005.03.30 20:36:33 ] Rels Lacor > real life friends?
[ 2005.03.30 20:36:52 ] Rels Lacor > Jesus said 'turn the other cheek'. that's how we do it. we turn the cheek and spend time together
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:21 ] Rels Lacor > why do you think i am always in stations?
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:23 ] DigitalCommunist > /emote sighs
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:27 ] DigitalCommunist > ok, last question for you
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:41 ] Rels Lacor > bless your heart, you poor thing. You're doing the best you can. Let me help you
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:43 ] DigitalCommunist > if you were part of a merc corp, and you were told to exterminate someone
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:55 ] Rels Lacor > go on
[ 2005.03.30 20:38:04 ] DigitalCommunist > would you be friends with them, or make the game really suck for them?
[ 2005.03.30 20:38:19 ] Rels Lacor > if i could. but you seem to play by weird rules
[ 2005.03.30 20:39:12 ] DigitalCommunist > Rels Lacor > why would it not be fun?
DigitalCommunist > Because its our job, and we're quite good at it.
[ 2005.03.30 20:39:33 ] Rels Lacor > Apparently you aren't. you may want to choose a new role to play
[ 2005.03.30 20:39:38 ] DigitalCommunist > He're lesson number one, young padawan, radio silence.
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so that's the chat to date.
Anyone else see this as good entertainment?
UnHolyD
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: UnHolyD
Viceroy,
You can't buy this type of fun anywhere else.
Actually, you can, but it requires you be 18 years or older and have a credit card...
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Posted - 2005.03.31 18:48:00 -
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"You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension... A dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone..."
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Posted - 2005.03.31 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Bat Masterson on 31/03/2005 19:07:01
This constitutes harassment. If you guys get sick of it I'd petition it. In this game a block is saying they don't want to talk to you not one individual character of yours, creating alts every ten hours to get around the block is pure harassment. I hope it will all have been worth it once you are banned.
EULA 4tw!
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.03.31 19:15:00 -
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If it hadn't been so damn funny I'd have agreed with the guy above here and simply wopuld have advised Digi and Vice to petition the nutter.
But..read the damn logs and imgaine that guy doing this all day...
It's too good to be illegal :p
More seriously.
UnholyD, you run a serious risk of getting an ingame warning from a GM by your admitted harrasment, if not worse.
Blocks are there for a reason, respect them.
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.03.31 19:20:00 -
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You are absolutely correct on the use of alts, Bat. So I must re-think that strategy and retract those statements.
Sincerely, Finite Horizon, please accept my apology if you found any of our conversations offensive or abusive. I have to say that you have been good sports about being so easily manipulated, and I may have crossed over the line with some of our convos. I will still make you my friends.
So I must turn to more creative ways to attract your attention, especially considering that you still have a war going on with us. And I just can't leave you alone for that.
ISD - can you please let me know if the following falls under this definition: "Harassment is the blatant abuse heaped upon one player by another above and beyond valid game play interaction."
I would like to paste our chats in local and from other characters as well. I believe this is valid gameplay interaction. After all, it's entertaining war. Thanks.
UnHolyD
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Epofhis
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Posted - 2005.03.31 19:46:00 -
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omg, pls let them convo u furth.. if just at least so they can post there chat logs here... its so f'ink funny i just sheet myself
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.03.31 19:51:00 -
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A rather boring read ..
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Ronin Woman
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Posted - 2005.03.31 20:48:00 -
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I only read part of this & I want to shoot you on sight too |
Tbone
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Posted - 2005.03.31 21:02:00 -
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OMG, Viceroy, you are EBIL.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.03.31 21:11:00 -
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This is the funniest thread ever. Viceroy getting a taste of his own medicene, the noob corp not losing any morale. Not that I have anything against Viceroy or the others, but you must admit that a) the noob corp is having much fun which was unintended by the warring party and/or b) Viceroy getting schooled in how to have funny conversations, which I think it's safe to say we all thought he was the master.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.03.31 21:11:00 -
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This is hilarious
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.03.31 22:11:00 -
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It is annoying and funny at the same time
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.03.31 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 31/03/2005 22:30:05
Its strangely compelling and very surreal, and in this time of pvp doldroms and boring workaday gate-camp-gankastic nonsense something a bit different is very welcome. And lets face it like Dirtball
said, Viceroy was the previous master of the funny chatlog, watching him against a guy that might be his equal is top draw entertainment.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2005.03.31 22:41:00 -
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I don't get it. It's just a very, very bored attention *****. What humor am I missing?
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ReaperOfSly
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Posted - 2005.03.31 22:48:00 -
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Wow how annoying would it be to be on the recieving end of that? I could almost see the vein throbbing on digi's forehead
Best entertainment I've had for a long time.
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Posted - 2005.03.31 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
I don't get it. It's just a very, very bored attention *****. What humor am I missing?
well Bob, Viceroy is famous for making hilarious chatlogs (immortalised by riz) where he takes the mickey out of unsuspecting goons who take themselves too seriously. Whereas in this case this corp of noobs are pretty much making monkeys out of the old pro with their slippery linguistics skillz - if you think it through its pretty damn funny. Its a bit like jeremy beadle throwing a wobbly on a hidden camera because some punter has filled his car up with trout.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2005.03.31 22:58:00 -
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The only vein Digi has is his trouser snake (yeah, it's THAT thin)
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Posted - 2005.03.31 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 31/03/2005 23:11:38
No, I just don't see it. Most of these are 50 lines of
this guy "Hey buddy let's go for ice cream!"
this guy "Look at me look at me pay attention let's be friends!"
this guy "Tell me more about yourself!"
this guy "I love you all!"
this guy "Pay more attention! Talk to me!"
this guy "I play this game to meet people to take long walks on the beach with!"
them "Yeah, that's great."
repeated for a while
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Posted - 2005.03.31 23:54:00 -
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Yeah, like I said, extremely funny.
As long as it doesn't happen to you that is.
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Posted - 2005.04.01 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: UnHolyD
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:43 ] DigitalCommunist > if you were part of a merc corp, and you were told to exterminate someone
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:55 ] Rels Lacor > go on
[ 2005.03.30 20:38:04 ] DigitalCommunist > would you be friends with them, or make the game really suck for them?
Sorry if I seem naive, but is that how ALL mercenary corps think? Cause imo there's something very wrong with taking an "ingame" contract, made up of "ingame isk", to "make the game really suck" for someone?
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.04.01 00:11:00 -
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Well, contracts are issued against a corp/alliance not to let them have fun right ? More like to demoralize them or weaken their fleets.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.01 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 01/04/2005 00:50:39
Hey UnHolyD!
Whatcha doin' man??
You forgot the best part!!!
Digi's answer after we thanked him for the good training we are receiving from him (and free, that's the best, except for the cheap frigs we are losing!)
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2005.03.29 23:03:00
OMG
You don't get it, do you?
I WASN'T SENT HERE TO TRAIN YOU, I WAS HIRED BY SOMEONE TO KILL YOU.
WE ARE MERCENARIES. KILL KILL KILL :|
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We will learn some day!!
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.04.01 00:55:00 -
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muhahahahahhaaha 
(maybe its the british sense of humour makes me find it so funny)
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.01 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Bat Masterson
Edited by: Bat Masterson on 31/03/2005 19:07:01
This constitutes harassment. If you guys get sick of it I'd petition it. In this game a block is saying they don't want to talk to you not one individual character of yours, creating alts every ten hours to get around the block is pure harassment. I hope it will all have been worth it once you are banned.
Beg to differ, Bat.
We are in a war here.
FH declared on us, and we still dont know the reason (well, we do, they say "somebody" hired them, but as much as we rack our brains we dont know who on this universe would spend two isk against our noob ass)
First thing we did: we went with a few cruiser against this guys. We got decimated.
Then we consulted our spiritual guru. After burning a crapload of inciense, our guru said:
"If you cannot beat them... then it's training!!"
And so we did. We decided "What the heck? We have the best PvPers against us... let's try to outrun them, or try tackling tactics on frigs, or just try to stay alive for one hour in the same system!"
And that's what we are doing... and it's fun!!
FUN!
What do you expect us to do? Say ONONONOOOOES!!!!!11!!111!!!!!????????
Surrender???
Pay this guys???
Wouldn't it be like... too carebear????
And about exploits:
-If a 20 million sp point character in his uber Raven can blast my 1,5 millions sp point character in a kestrel in Jita because we are in war,
-If the objective of a uber merc corp against a noob is "hey noob, you cannot win, surrender and pay"
-If a -10 sec status pirate can have a mining alt and a trader alt in a NPC corp to finance his pirating
-If you can alt-kestrel gank afk miners in empire
you consider it an exploit to convo our enemies in a war THEY declared???
Or perhaps you consider it an exploit that we having FUN being on the receiving end??
Sorry i cant go on... we have to finish the final touch on our new uber noob tactic for bringing down Ravens: "The Hellspawn Legion of Ibis of Doom". Can't go into details since it's classified!!
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2005.04.01 01:04:00 -
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Quote:
maybe its the british sense of humour makes me find it so funny
Or lack of thereof
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.04.01 01:07:00 -
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Herco, it's all fine and stuff that you take that war in a good manner and such. But a matter of simple fact is that using repetitvely created new alts for the sole purpose of avoiding the convo block of particular persons or a particular corporation *will* be marked harrassment.
Don't think Eve GM's are wimps when it comes to dealing out teh punishment. They are not.
It's just a friendly warning, nothing more. I happen to agree that empire wars against noobish corps for the sake of it are nonsensical and don't belong here. You are actually dealing with it in the best way there is imo. But you have to lay off the convoing, simple as that.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.01 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
But a matter of simple fact is that using repetitvely created new alts for the sole purpose of avoiding the convo block of particular persons or a particular corporation *will* be marked harrassment.
I know Rod, thanks for the advise...
But put in this way:
Declared war, can go on everywhere, even 1.0. The "declared" part can do nothing to avoid the war or hide.
On this side, DigitalCommunist and friends in their cruise-spewing Ravens, and billions of isk in their wallets.
On this other side, a noob corp and their convoing alts.
Harrassment?
Anyway... the objective of this posts was different. It's not to prove we are funny or something like that.
Whatever DigitalCommunist or Viceroy post on combat, i read like the gospel. Digi's post on "Things that ruin PvP" on general discussion is the best i've seen in a long while. And Viceroy's post there about instas is... definitive, there is no other way.
And I say this in all honesty guys.
In what you are wrong... it is that you vets believe this game is all about pretty explotions. Yep you do. And yep I'm using the words Viceroy used, yep.
What's wrong with PvP is the vet's wallet. Believe it or not, that's where things are wrong.
You know why we dont go against this guys? Suppose that by teamwork, dumb luck, act of god, whatever we manage to bring down one of their ships. So what? How many billions do vets have in their wallets? They just buy another.
And of course we are gonna lose a lot more ships than they do... but the biggest difference is our wallets. I can afford two cruisers, maybe three.
Thats why, to level the field, we fly frigs.
Yep! The EQUAL of a vet flying a raven, is a noob flying... a kestrel! Why? Because now the noob can afford to lose the ship many times over.
Now the war has as little effect on him that for the vet.
Of course we cannot "win" if we take this as "blowing ships". So we use it as... training! Let's see how much time i can survive against this raven... let's see if with a MWD i get to 5 km of the raven... lets see if I can avoid them for a long time... etc.
It would be a different situation altogheter if there was some OBJECTIVE on this war, and you know how a big fan of content I am... oh how I wish I could have a good reason to try my best to stop Digitial because it serves a greater in-game purpose and dont let me start on this subject again!
But so far there is none. Digi got a CONTRACT. Read Digital's convo again... he is WORKING for crying out loud! He has a CONTRACT to fullfill.
And his idea of fullfilling a contract is that we shoud surrender because we have no chance.
The objective of the convos was to say "Hey Digital... you taking this too serious man!! This is a game!! If you kick my ass, so what?? You are so far ahead of me, that "fighting" against you is no game at all because I cannot win... so lets change the game to something we both have a chance, like catch-the-kestrel"
I know the adrenaline pump FAST for me. If the vets find it boring... hey, it's not my duty to fly an expensive ship that I cannot afford to lose, just because the vet has a CONTRACT to fulfill, of which i dont know nothing!
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Posted - 2005.04.01 02:18:00 -
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Hey guys whatÆs even funnier then reading these post? Having a front row seat to it all! I haven't had this much fun in a long time. As far as the harassment issue I think that is stupid I mean they are entertaining us all. I think rules are meant to be stretched and there is no harm in this.
We are not simply going to give up. We know we will suffer many losses, but we have a great outlook on this and it does not bother us.
Now I would like to know who hired these guys (if they actually were hired). So stop hiding in the shadows and claim responsibility for your actions.
Also I think this is very humorous and that is why multi-player games are so much fun. You get people together and watch the friction. To be truthful it's almost a drama, but I must say it is a damn good one.
Stay near for the next unfolding events of this little
corporation war!
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Posted - 2005.04.01 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: jamesw on 01/04/2005 02:40:49
Originally by: Herko Kerghans
Of course we cannot "win" if we take this as "blowing ships". So we use it as... training! Let's see how much time i can survive against this raven... let's see if with a MWD i get to 5 km of the raven... lets see if I can avoid them for a long time... etc.
A solo raven is not too hard to neutralise using teamwork + frigs: put a total of 6 sensor damps on the raven (2 griffins @25km are useful for this). Launch a few light drones (use 2 - 3 incursus/tristan @10km). His FoF's will chase the drones, and he won't be able to target you. Then its just a matter of getting some kestrels in for damage. Providing he does not log off he will go down.
Give it a go sometime 
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Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.01 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sjustin
Stay near for the next unfolding events of this little
corporation war!
YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Let's feed'em ibis boss!!
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Nillus Jr
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Posted - 2005.04.01 05:58:00 -
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Even though I've been a part of this since the beginning, I don't really understand what the fuss is about. Finite Horizon has already lost the "war" to Interstellar Solutions, Inc. In fact, they never had a hope in hell of winning it.
IRL, to win a war, the victor must do two things, occupy territory and subjugate its population. In this
situation, Finite Horizon can do neither. Even though they have superior firepower and PvP skills, they are basically helpless to prevent our corp members from moving about empire space and going about our business.
Sure, we lost a few ships in the first week of the war, but we've since regrouped and changed our strategy. Let them find us, try hunt us down like dogs. We've got our eyes open and our ears to the ground, so it's going to be a lot tougher than it was before. In the meantime, we're going about our business; running trade, mining, doing missions. Even though there's a small pack of bad-assed mercs on my tail, I'm earning more money than ever before. In fact, I had my best day ever today.
As time goes on and this "war" drags on, we're going to keep building skill points and earning ISK. I'm sure we'll lose more ships than we destroy, but I know they'll mainly be frigates. At the same time, as each day passes, we'll have a better and better chance of getting some of their more expensive boats.
So how does this illustrate my point that we win? I'll tell you. The only commonality between the game and real life is time. If we are still at war with these guys in six weeks, or even six months, I can look back and honestly say I didn't really change the way I played the game that much, other than checking local a lot. I wasn't ready to go out into 0.0, so I didn't miss out on anything. I needed faction so I ran missions. I wanted cash, I traded and mined.
Not so for these guys. They'll have time to reflect on all the hours they spent chasing noob frigates in empire space for petty cash when they could have playing in the big leagues. (Speaking of cash, does their "benefactor" pay by the hour? Could get expensive.)
Herko, you've gushed over their PvP knowledge and prowess. I have to disagree with you. While they can talk the talk, if they were really good, they'd be walking the walk out in 0.0, not ambushing frigate pilots in empire space. They're just bored players looking for easy pickings. It's a shame, because even though I do see they are good, it's hard to tell how much of it is simply the vast difference between our skill point totals.
Summary: Interstellar Solutions 1, Finite Horizon 0. Please contact Sjustin to discuss the terms of your surrender.
P.S. If you are a non-pirate player interested in joining a tightly knit noob corp at "war" with a group of highly experienced mercs, please convo me. Battleship skills a plus.
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Posted - 2005.04.01 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nillus Jr
Summary: Interstellar Solutions 1, Finite Horizon 0. Please contact Sjustin to discuss the terms of your surrender
Hey Nillus! Not this weekend!!
We still gotta try our HeLlSPawN IbIs WavE of DoOm on one of them Ravens!! Been practicing it all week!!
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Minerva IV
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Posted - 2005.04.01 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Minerva IV on 01/04/2005 07:32:44
Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: UnHolyD
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:43 ] DigitalCommunist > if you were part of a merc corp, and you were told to exterminate someone
[ 2005.03.30 20:37:55 ] Rels Lacor > go on
[ 2005.03.30 20:38:04 ] DigitalCommunist > would you be friends with them, or make the game really suck for them?
Sorry if I seem naive, but is that how ALL mercenary corps think? Cause imo there's something very wrong with taking an "ingame" contract, made up of "ingame isk", to "make the game really suck" for someone?
No this is defenatly not the view of all merc corps, we play the game to have fun too and would prefer it if you had fun too (you having fun?).
Although i do agree that this covo'ing could get very annoying.
Edit:
Originally by: Herko Kerghans
We still gotta try our HeLlSPawN IbIs WavE of DoOm on one of them Ravens!! Been practicing it all week!!
Omg i love you guys! have fun
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.04.01 07:47:00 -
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Jasmine 4tw!
Best advice ever.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2005.04.01 07:52:00 -
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digi is entertaining himself killing frigates? o.O
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.04.01 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: mk ultra
Yep they only want the easy prey cause thats probably all they can manage . But do not disband your corp as the other dude said . Give em hell thats what i say .
Or hire someone to give em hell .
Convo me in game if you wanna work out some deals . :)
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This attacking a n00b mining corp certainly adds a lot af weight to DC's "My list of things that are wrong with PvP" post doesn't it? ... NOT!
'Respected' PvPer? I'm glad I've disagreed with him so much over his PvP 'issues' - I can see now which level of the game he's playing at.
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Posted - 2005.04.01 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva IV
Originally by: Herko Kerghans
We still gotta try our HeLlSPawN IbIs WavE of DoOm on one of them Ravens!! Been practicing it all week!!
Omg i love you guys! have fun
*Checks inventory*
Hum... still 3 ibis left... aha... and 5 civilian shield boosters, w00t!!
*Checks agenda*
Well... we COULD cram a few hunt-the-ibis-in-Jita for this saturday... gotta check...
Ok Minerva, not sure but I think we could entertain another Top Merc Corp... nononono!!!! not that we want another Top Merc Corp after our n00b ass... but heck, if you guys not finding enough fun in 0.0 we'll put up with the effort... it's a game after all, gotta try to share the fun!!... of course, you gotta get yourself a contract from Teh-Misterious-Mastermind-Who-Pays-200M-To-Top-Mercs-To-Go-Hunt-Noobs-In-Empire... yeah, sorry about that, don't know this Misterious Mastermind, gotta talk to the Finite Horizon guys about it... no, they won't tell us who this M.M. is, sumptin' to do with them Mercs Blood Oath and stuff, yep... not that I would know much about that, me a n00b carebear and all!!
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.04.01 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: mk ultra
Yep they only want the easy prey cause thats probably all they can manage . But do not disband your corp as the other dude said . Give em hell thats what i say .
Or hire someone to give em hell .
Convo me in game if you wanna work out some deals . :)
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This attacking a n00b mining corp certainly adds a lot af weight to DC's "My list of things that are wrong with PvP" post doesn't it? ... NOT!
'Respected' PvPer? I'm glad I've disagreed with him so much over his PvP 'issues' - I can see now which level of the game he's playing at.
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Actually, it lends more credibility, because it shows that Digi has no qualms about fighting anyone at all, be it nublets or alliances. He has the experience. <3 fo' Digi
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Hoozin
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Posted - 2005.04.01 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hoozin on 01/04/2005 08:51:08
I love this thread. I know that some people don't get it, but I find it absolutely hilarious.
All wars are training. If you aren't getting better, you're getting podded for no reason.
Besides, nothing more fun than harassing Minerva's Scorp and talking to her at the same time. And by harass, I mean, warp in, look at it, compare odds of killing a scorp, thorax, and ferox vs. surviving in an incursus, flip coin, warp out. Rinse and repeat til everybody gets tired and goes to bed.
P.S. I understand both sides here and in general agree with both sides. Unfortunately, the GMs will agree that it's harrassment and you could find yourself with a 2 week ban from the game if it were to continue. On the other hand, I'd love to read more of those convos.
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Minerva IV
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Posted - 2005.04.01 08:51:00 -
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Well Herko was actually talking to the Xetic guy who posted. Hell we would come along in n00b ships too - would be more fun that way.
and hunt-the-ibis-in-Jita sounds like a great game, Xetic you wanna play that on sat?
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Minerva IV
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Posted - 2005.04.01 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hoozin
Besides, nothing more fun than harassing Minerva's Scorp and talking to her at the same time. And by harass, I mean, warp in, look at it, compare odds of killing a scorp, thorax, and ferox vs. surviving in an incursus, flip coin, warp out. Rinse and repeat til everybody gets tired and goes to bed.
Hey you missed let Minerva dock to log off then dock with her and undock so she is forced to undock in an attempt to catch that dam frig :)
Oh and you did have a scorp a rax and a load of other ships when we came out to play 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.04.01 09:09:00 -
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The war against XETIC will continue until I have a Hoozin corpse. 
As for this thread:
1.) Viceroy pwns all in convos.
2.) I find the target corp's attitude to be very refreshing. It's an innovative approach compared to the reactions one normally sees.
3.) Ham, cheese & pepperoni sandwich 4TW!
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Posted - 2005.04.01 09:30:00 -
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[ 2005.03.30 20:20:40 ] DigitalCommunist > but your members seem to think its a ******* dueling arena, and they're asking me for setups
Priceless..
I'd pay some serious isk for a vid of that Ibis Wave of doom!
Gl and hf to both sides
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.01 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 01/04/2005 09:43:18
Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 01/04/2005 09:40:50
Originally by: Hoozin
P.S. I understand both sides here and in general agree with both sides. Unfortunately, the GMs will agree that it's harrassment and you could find yourself with a 2 week ban from the game if it were to continue. On the other hand, I'd love to read more of those convos.
Hum, wait a minute here... they are professional mercs in big bad ships executing a contract, and we are but a bunch of feeble n00bs.
We understand that they are professional, so we decided we would not start with the typical hate mails. More than that, we went out of our way to praise them for being such an overwhelming force of Darwinism, whiping a bunch of whining carebears into shape.
After such a nice behaviour from our part FH would surely not petition to get us banned, right?
Originally by: Minerva IV
Well Herko was actually talking to the Xetic guy who posted. Hell we would come along in n00b ships too - would be more fun that way.
Humm... that would actually be the InfErnAl IbIs MaSSacRe ShwDowN of Jita...
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Posted - 2005.04.01 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Karmae on 01/04/2005 10:49:11
Originally by: Viceroy
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:16 ] DigitalUtopia > He's the one I want. not you. But we can be friends too. Jesus preaches forgiveness. And I forgive you
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:29 ] Viceroy > Hmm wait what is this
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:35 ] Viceroy > I just recieved an intelligence memo
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:40 ] Viceroy > it says here that you're a moron
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:43 ] Viceroy > goodbye!
OMG That is comedy genius
Good stuff.
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Ghost Red
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Posted - 2005.04.01 11:05:00 -
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Its kinda reasurring to see that some things in Eve don't change. If there was one thing that I really missed during my time away, it was talking to nutjobs.
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Posted - 2005.04.01 11:33:00 -
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wow :-)
never underestimate the power of tedium ... i give Viceroy, Digi et al one more week of these banal convo's and their whole corp will be initiating self-destruct.
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Posted - 2005.04.01 11:41:00 -
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/salute the noob mining corp
You guys have the right mental attitude to succeed.
As far as harassment, I think targetting a newbie corp and trying to make them "cancel their sub" is a better example of harassment.
LOL funny convos
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Posted - 2005.04.01 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Calvin Pax on 01/04/2005 12:25:42
Hmmm attacking larger/better ships with a Ibiz where have I seen this before... could it be the nOOb Squad film Link as follows: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=146807
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.04.01 14:04:00 -
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FH-
One thing still remains a mystery. If this is a "job for hire" and you have an agenda placed upon you by the guy who hired you, I wonder how your employee review would read.
I hope he got his money's worth from you, because we have certainly gotten his money's worth...and more!
Thanks!
UnHolyD
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Calderio
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Posted - 2005.04.01 15:17:00 -
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this thread has turned into the ultimate bar pvp'ers vs the n00b bears.
and it is comedy gold.
this morning when i woke up i had to make sure that this thread wasnt posted today (the first) and that i had not been the first one to be duped into posting a reply to a april fools thread.
if the n00bs would listen to my advice and disband and plot revenge for a later date, then all would be well. or they can continue as they are and gain pitty by there fellow bears, and hatetread by those who consider themselfs pirates.
oh and if you guys manage a bs kill on these fine mercs milk it for all you can, most experienced alliances can barely manage that against folks like these.
yarrr...
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Posted - 2005.04.01 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Karmae
Edited by: Karmae on 01/04/2005 10:49:11
Originally by: Viceroy
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:16 ] DigitalUtopia > He's the one I want. not you. But we can be friends too. Jesus preaches forgiveness. And I forgive you
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:29 ] Viceroy > Hmm wait what is this
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:35 ] Viceroy > I just recieved an intelligence memo
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:40 ] Viceroy > it says here that you're a moron
[ 2005.03.31 14:40:43 ] Viceroy > goodbye!
OMG That is comedy genius
Good stuff.
I think Viceroy is still the master of the funny convo... Whatever newb corp he's fighting against is just more creative than usual in trying to justify outrageous loss. How plebeian. But annoying, no doubt.
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Posted - 2005.04.01 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: ChronicX on 01/04/2005 15:46:33
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I believe you enjoy this as much as I do. Haven't you had this experience before?
OMG this is thread is the funniest I¦ve read in a long time. UnholyD ftw!
GL with the war guys
and bring more convoes in here!
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.04.01 15:52:00 -
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omg i read viceroys convo and i just imagine that voice of his going as he says he will burn their station down...
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Posted - 2005.04.01 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 31/03/2005 23:11:38
No, I just don't see it. Most of these are 50 lines of
this guy "Hey buddy let's go for ice cream!"
this guy "Look at me look at me pay attention let's be friends!"
this guy "Tell me more about yourself!"
this guy "I love you all!"
this guy "Pay more attention! Talk to me!"
this guy "I play this game to meet people to take long walks on the beach with!"
them "Yeah, that's great."
repeated for a while
My point exactly. I can't understand what is so funny about someone repeating some supposed-to-be-funny-crap over and over again.
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Posted - 2005.04.01 17:46:00 -
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I think This was the first communication between us. So as you can see they are after some quick isk. Like we have repeated so many times this is not necessarily a bad thing as we are gaining pvp experience. If anyone wants to join in on the fun convo me in game and we can talk about recruitment or other arrangements.
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Channel ID: (('convo', ((40641000111L, 43351000105L), (1409485451, 1020999817, None), (235103256, 1226759085, None))),)
Channel Name: DigitalCommunist Conversation
Listener: Sjustin
Session started: 2005.03.24 00:38:34
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[ 2005.03.24 00:38:37 ] Sjustin > hi
[ 2005.03.24 00:38:42 ] Sjustin > why did you declare war?
[ 2005.03.24 00:38:50 ] DigitalCommunist > money
[ 2005.03.24 00:39:21 ] Sjustin > a good reason but why not earn it being honest?
[ 2005.03.24 00:39:35 ] DigitalCommunist > cause getting paid is more fun
[ 2005.03.24 00:39:42 ] Sjustin > someone hired you?
[ 2005.03.24 00:39:52 ] DigitalCommunist > yes, we're mercs.
[ 2005.03.24 00:39:58 ] Sjustin > ok
[ 2005.03.24 00:40:03 ] DigitalCommunist > i'm too lazy to try and extort people
[ 2005.03.24 00:40:09 ] Sjustin > can you let me know who hired you?
[ 2005.03.24 00:40:32 ] DigitalCommunist > that wouldn't be very good for business
[ 2005.03.24 00:40:41 ] DigitalCommunist > you can always buy out their contract, i undeclare and tell you who it is
[ 2005.03.24 00:40:47 ] DigitalCommunist > its only a ****ty 200mil.
[ 2005.03.24 00:41:01 ] Sjustin > no worries we can fight back
[ 2005.03.24 00:41:08 ] DigitalCommunist > alright, we'll see.
[ 2005.03.24 00:41:09 ] Sjustin > it will be good for pvp experence
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.04.01 18:28:00 -
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Think we could get a Riz vid of this?
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2005.04.01 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: MOOstradamus on 01/04/2005 18:50:32
UnHolyD 4tw \o/
/me thinks that UnHolyD & Herko are just using the long forgotten HACKING combat skills that EVE once upon a time promised to deliver
/me also agrees with DIRTBALL
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Camel S
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Posted - 2005.04.01 19:06:00 -
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Now this comedy is awesome
Do they cheer you on when you pod them too?
/Camel
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.04.01 23:06:00 -
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Finite Horizon-
You really wanted to kill me that badly today, eh? It's a shame that didn't happen. You had no idea that I was right next to you, watching your pretty Cerberus fly out in space, waiting for me to leave.
You say that you are master mercenaries, but I don't believe you. You have great PvP skills, but you have no idea how to really fight a war. I almost feel pity for you, but after all, it was you who did the attacking. Now you must deal with our relationship.
You are weak.
Here's what GFL had stated previously:
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[ 2005.03.29 03:22:15 ] GFLTorque > We were the core trainers etc.. of m0o, so some of our fees are over a billion isk including ship costs.
[ 2005.03.29 03:22:35 ] UnHolyD > hmm... someone must hate us
[ 2005.03.29 03:22:45 ] GFLTorque > Depends on which one of us negotiates it.
[ 2005.03.29 03:22:55 ] GFLTorque > Digi is in control of this contract.
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[ 2005.03.29 03:27:53 ] GFLTorque > We generally never move on to other contracts until the customer ends one, or something else occurs.
[ 2005.03.29 03:28:56 ] GFLTorque > In the case of your lot, I had levied to get your contract pulled in order to work on another one, that is a higher priorty of mine.
[ 2005.03.29 03:29:05 ] GFLTorque > Hence why I answered 200 million perhaps.
[ 2005.03.29 03:29:27 ] GFLTorque > I had inquired as to what it might cost to allow us to move forward. Not sure if Digi even was serious.
-So if you surrender, I own you.
-If you fight, I own your time.
-If you move onto another contract, I forced you to change your position.
-If you reply, I own you.
Any way you slice it, you continually fail miserably in doing your merc duties.
Hate me, but you brought this on yourself. And I will be here for a while to remind you of that.
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2005.04.01 23:49:00 -
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Lol Classic :D
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Posted - 2005.04.02 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Cinnander on 02/04/2005 00:31:58
EVE where anything can happen. How big is this corp? Small, and 'noob' filled? And they're ****ing off some of the game's most infamous PvPers? 5 page post on Corp/Alliances about a "noob" corp. xD It's only that big because people care. The little guys that stood up?
(Sorry after reading I realise this post sounds like something Quan in RahXephon would say, but appart from the harrasment stuff it's pretty funny/cool/interesting).
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.04.02 01:25:00 -
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I see UnholyD has learned to smack.
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Plastic Head
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Posted - 2005.04.02 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Plastic Head on 02/04/2005 04:07:49
my hero! this is the best thread ever! "FEAR US NOOBS!!! - WE LOVE YOU"!
edit: quote became too long.. and.. harrassment my ass.. you got isk and sp growing out yer ass... cant stand a few convo's... grow up.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.04.02 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Plastic Head
Edited by: Plastic Head on 02/04/2005 04:07:49
my hero! this is the best thread ever! "FEAR US NOOBS!!! - WE LOVE YOU"!
edit: quote became too long.. and.. harrassment my ass.. you got isk and sp growing out yer ass... cant stand a few convo's... grow up.
Convo spamming and getting around blocks by using different alts has always been considered harrasment. The number of sp a person has has nothing to do with it. Dont make silly statements like that. And I dont get it, since when has eve been about people with equal amounts of sps fighting eachother. Thats the vibe I get from some of the more retarded individuals on this thread. What a totally pointless waste of bandwidth this thread is and I can't believe I actually contributed to it.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.04.02 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: UnHolyD
Finite Horizon-
You really wanted to kill me that badly today, eh? It's a shame that didn't happen. You had no idea that I was right next to you, watching your pretty Cerberus fly out in space, waiting for me to leave.
You say that you are master mercenaries, but I don't believe you. You have great PvP skills, but you have no idea how to really fight a war. I almost feel pity for you, but after all, it was you who did the attacking. Now you must deal with our relationship.
You are weak.
Here's what GFL had stated previously:
Quote:
[ 2005.03.29 03:22:15 ] GFLTorque > We were the core trainers etc.. of m0o, so some of our fees are over a billion isk including ship costs.
[ 2005.03.29 03:22:35 ] UnHolyD > hmm... someone must hate us
[ 2005.03.29 03:22:45 ] GFLTorque > Depends on which one of us negotiates it.
[ 2005.03.29 03:22:55 ] GFLTorque > Digi is in control of this contract.
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[ 2005.03.29 03:27:53 ] GFLTorque > We generally never move on to other contracts until the customer ends one, or something else occurs.
[ 2005.03.29 03:28:56 ] GFLTorque > In the case of your lot, I had levied to get your contract pulled in order to work on another one, that is a higher priorty of mine.
[ 2005.03.29 03:29:05 ] GFLTorque > Hence why I answered 200 million perhaps.
[ 2005.03.29 03:29:27 ] GFLTorque > I had inquired as to what it might cost to allow us to move forward. Not sure if Digi even was serious.
-So if you surrender, I own you.
-If you fight, I own your time.
-If you move onto another contract, I forced you to change your position.
-If you reply, I own you.
Any way you slice it, you continually fail miserably in doing your merc duties.
Hate me, but you brought this on yourself. And I will be here for a while to remind you of that.
UnHolyD
Quite frankly, you are an idiot...Digi and the rest of FH will wtfpwn your sorry ass every time. You have nothing to do but talk, because no matter what you do you are still crappy pvpers who can't compete with FH. So you talk, spam, and otherwise irritate those who are so nicely killing you. The only 'training' you are getting is how to start a convo as fast as possible. Stop talking and acting big, because you are not. kthnx.
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Posted - 2005.04.02 09:34:00 -
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OMFG
They are just so,,,,, Nice!!
it would be like de-fluffing teddy bears 
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There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Vlad Hazzard
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Posted - 2005.04.02 11:22:00 -
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Like it or not, psych and politics is part of the game, smack is part of the game, if it wasn't then we would simply have a numbers game. x plays longer than y, x has more credits, x has more sp, x wins, no game no nothing.
It's the social aspect that makes Eve, not the math.
What makes this thread hilarious is you have some old time players TRYING to play a straight numbers game, which is their advantage, but the newbies aren't letting them.
If you camped a bunch of veteran players they most likely WOULD cancel their sub. If it was a player with 30 million SP that couldn't leave the station, they would get frustrated and start begging, or offer to give you 200 mil to leave him alone.
New guy has nowhere to go but up, and nothin to lose.
You waste your time, you lose.
You walk away, you lose.
It's like getting a false parking ticket. Even if you did nothing wrong, it costs you more to fight the ticket than to pay the 40 bucks, there's no way to win.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.04.02 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 02/04/2005 13:42:50
Originally by: Negotiator
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maybe its the british sense of humour makes me find it so funny
Or lack of thereof
if your american...
you just dont understand some of the great british humour.
if your not, nobody cares what u think.
we invented comedies ffs....go back to the wooden bridge u ****
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.03 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 03/04/2005 00:12:55
Originally by: Darken Two
And I dont get it, since when has eve been about people with equal amounts of sps fighting eachother.
Never.
Since when is the less experienced required to fight to more experienced in equal grounds?
Since when is the least experienced supposed to "die nicely and quiet"? Note that we haven't issued a single hate mail so far!
Since when is the use of alts in war considered an exploit?
Originally by: Darken Two
and I can't believe I actually contributed to it.
The only truth is psychological warfare...
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Nillus Jr
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Posted - 2005.04.03 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Vlad Hazzard
New guy has nowhere to go but up, and nothin to lose.
You waste your time, you lose.
You walk away, you lose.
It's like getting a false parking ticket. Even if you did nothing wrong, it costs you more to fight the ticket than to pay the 40 bucks, there's no way to win.
It's almost pitiful when a group of players tries to create their own storyline and fails miserably, isn't it?
Q: Why are all the members of Finite Horizon virgins?
A: Cause they can't find the right skill book!
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Posted - 2005.04.03 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: mk ultra
Yep they only want the easy prey cause thats probably all they can manage . But do not disband your corp as the other dude said . Give em hell thats what i say .
Or hire someone to give em hell .
Convo me in game if you wanna work out some deals . :)
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This attacking a n00b mining corp certainly adds a lot af weight to DC's "My list of things that are wrong with PvP" post doesn't it? ... NOT!
'Respected' PvPer? I'm glad I've disagreed with him so much over his PvP 'issues' - I can see now which level of the game he's playing at.
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and do people think there was really a contract....pffff.
takes me back to the time m0o war decd a small amarr rp'ing corp cus digi had issues with there ceo,things that happened before he joined m0o.
digi your a sad little man,no one hired you get,over yourself idiot.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.04.03 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Herko Kerghans
Edited by: Herko Kerghans on 03/04/2005 00:12:55
Originally by: Darken Two
And I dont get it, since when has eve been about people with equal amounts of sps fighting eachother.
Never.
Since when is the less experienced required to fight to more experienced in equal grounds?
Since when is the least experienced supposed to "die nicely and quiet"? Note that we haven't issued a single hate mail so far!
Since when is the use of alts in war considered an exploit?
Originally by: Darken Two
and I can't believe I actually contributed to it.
The only truth is psychological warfare...
Hmmmm I never said anyone has to die "nicely and quietly" and I did not say noone uses alts in a war. What I did say is that it is an exploit to recycle alts to get past the convo blocking feature. If you are doing it, you are lucky you havent been petitioned yet because the eve GMs do not look kindly on harrasment of that sort.
Oh and you are not the first ones to think of or use psych warfare so please quit saying that in every other sentence because every tom, **** and harry's been using some form of psych warfare to win wars since the beginning of eve.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Kalen Vorn
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Posted - 2005.04.03 07:07:00 -
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Well i got my butt kicked tonight, but i'm not here to talk smack, just wanted to say that was a really nice kill digi. you really got the drop on me and smacked me up hard!
i wanted to tell you that in person, but you seem to have accidentally blocked me, i'm sure it's just a mistake.
also i wanted to know if you think i'm improving? last time, when you killed me, all i did was wet my pants. this time i wet my pants AND i remembered to shoot back at you. (i don't think i hit you). do you think there's hope for me yet?
i'm sure you and the rest of finite will be killing me lots in the future, see you around!
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.03 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Herko Kerghans
Originally by: Darken Two
and I can't believe I actually contributed to it.
The only truth is psychological warfare...
Oh and you are not the first ones to think of or use psych warfare so please quit saying that in every other sentence.
No, of course not.
I dont remeber saying so, but I'm sorry if the way I phrased my sentences seemed like I was implying such a thing.
Anyway, thanks for contributing twice to a thread you judge not worth contributing even once.
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PantiesTheDetroyer
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Posted - 2005.04.03 11:28:00 -
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post locked, due to sucking
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Quaisar
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Posted - 2005.04.03 12:24:00 -
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LOL this is a great read!!
I think it's great that you're taking such a good attitude
towards having a merc corp on your back.
(considers getting alt to join your corp to help you out and
have fun)
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Killing Machine
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Posted - 2005.04.03 13:27:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Nillus Jr
It's almost pitiful when a group of players tries to create their own storyline and fails miserably, isn't it?
Q: Why are all the members of Finite Horizon virgins?
A: Cause they can't find the right skill book!
You know after reading this waste of bandwidth, looking at the alt that made the original post and reading that statement above and others - I think you Interstellar dudes are wacko. I also can't help but wonder why this thread aint got at least 1 - U ppl place nice post from a forum mod, or at least 1 - Thou shalt not continue to bother ppl that ignore you, nor post insults about them in the forum replies from a mod.
Ahh thats right, its pirates your posting about. C:\Load\ForumMod\DoubleStandard
Why dont you take your post to the "omg some famous eve ppl attacked us, we want to be famous" thread.
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Sjustin
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Posted - 2005.04.03 18:34:00 -
[100]
This is an eve-mail received last night from GFLTorque.
Enjoy!
2005.04.03 06:06:00
Have just finished reading UnholyD's forum posts.
I will be footing the bill personally, for permenant war on your corp.
Enjoy.
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.04.03 18:36:00 -
[101]
Again, this is why this is so ironic.
What you admit now is not only that I can push your buttons and sway your thoughts, but that I control part of your wallet, too --- PERMANENTLY?!!!
This just keeps getting better...
UnHolyD
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2005.04.03 19:17:00 -
[102]
You think because now they are planning a permanent war on you that you control them and their wallets because of this?
You dont because at any time they get bored of blowing up frigates they can retract while they limit the amount of money you earn and can save and they will basically keep most of your members in frigates permanently because your corp wallet and their personal wallet wont be able to replace the losses.
You dug yourself into a big hole and personally from the way you have behaved on the forums and admitted behaving in game I hope you cant get yourself out of it.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.04.03 20:06:00 -
[103]
Originally by: UnHolyD
Again, this is why this is so ironic.
What you admit now is not only that I can push your buttons and sway your thoughts, but that I control part of your wallet, too --- PERMANENTLY?!!!
This just keeps getting better...
UnHolyD
lol you really think you are doing any impact to their wallet with the war fee?
you are dumber then i thought.
i feel like coming and shoot you almost
Originally by: Graelyn
"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"
Quote:
[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.04.03 21:43:00 -
[104]
Quote:
lol you really think you are doing any impact to their wallet with the war fee?
No.
Malken, your thoughts are appreciated, but if you re-read what I wrote, I never made any statement about making an impact on the wallets.
Let me phrase it in a different way: They have dedicated a portion of their online lives to me as a direct result of nothing more than words that I typed into a box.
THAT is the value of convo. Whether or not you agree, the historical fact remains that it happened.
UnHolyD
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2005.04.03 22:57:00 -
[105]
What this thread comes to is this :
Hello. We're totally helpless to fight FZN in-game, so we come here to attract sympathy and put a psychological spin on this whole event. We suck at fighting but we are very good at typing. Can we get some <3 pls?
The answer is no.
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Vandium
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Posted - 2005.04.03 23:00:00 -
[106]
What lozers.
Someone in Eve declared war on you?
OMG !!!!
bah hahahaha
You people R pathetic. Take your mining beams, and cargo expanders hold tight to your mommies legs.
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UnHolyD
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Posted - 2005.04.03 23:26:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Hello. We're totally helpless to fight FZN in-game, so we come here to attract sympathy and put a psychological spin on this whole event. We suck at fighting but we are very good at typing. Can we get some <3 pls?
Everything in your summary is true except your question. We have never hid from that. So why hasn't FZN won the war then? I'll answer that in another thread.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2005.04.03 23:49:00 -
[108]
I'll answer it in this one for you. In one sentance, too! In EVE, you can only loose a war, but never win it.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.04.04 07:36:00 -
[109]
1. I can't believe FH would waste their time on a 200 mill 'contract'.
2. Attacking a noob corp of this size/experience with a force like FH has is total overkill, and their time will always be worth a lot more than the damage they do.
3. The noobs' attitude seems exactly right, and although their conversations seem kind of stupid, at least they are having fun and learning stuff. Sheesh, I would have thought that more people would celebrate that kind of anti-carebearish behaviour rather than smack the hell out of it on the forums.
4. The attitude of FH in this thread isn't what one has come to expect of those guys. Remember... respect > isk.
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.04 09:42:00 -
[110]
Very funny read
Interstellar Solutions is playing this game on a whole different level then Finite Horizon.
It's a shame people with such a healthy view of the game, and good grasp of strategy are still carebearing in empire.
Also from what I can read from the forums, their tactics seem to be superior to those of FH.
They are playing an evolving style of cheap guerilla warfare trying make their enemy lose interest because of lack of results and 'proper' targets.
In the mean time FH probably sticks to ass frigs and raves, relying on superior strength and experience.
So there is no way FH can win this. And as their opponents will gain more experience, the chance they will actually start losing ships, becomes very big.
At some point FH will lose interest and stop the war. And when that happens, in a game the winner is the one who had the most fun.
All carebears EVER going to be in a war similar to this: READ AND LEARN!!!
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Suuji Praath
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Posted - 2005.04.05 07:22:00 -
[111]
Originally by: UnHolyD
-So if you surrender, I own you.
-If you fight, I own your time.
-If you move onto another contract, I forced you to change your position.
-If you reply, I own you.
Any way you slice it, you continually fail miserably in doing your merc duties.
And with that, and every other post that gets on this thread, UnHolyD and Interstellar Solutions Inc. has won and will continue to win. I applaud Interstellar Solutions Inc.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.05 11:49:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Tobiaz
It's a shame people with such a healthy view of the game, and good grasp of strategy are still carebearing in empire.
Mind you, we are not carebearing... we are holding a war against a very top vet merc corp...
Puzzles me a bit, the talk down we are receiving from some PvPers... I mean, what is EVE after all?
1) Make isk
2) Buy & equip ship
3) Fight
4) If win go to 3), if lose go to 1).
What difference does it make if your opponent is FH or some random dude you find in 0.0? If you lose the ship, it's exactly the same who you lose it too...
The advantage of having a merc after you is that it SAVES you the time to trip to 0.0. It's good for productivity, come to think of it.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.04.05 16:23:00 -
[113]
This thread can be summed up in two lines:
Intersteller Goons: OMGOMGOMG LOOK AT US WE ARE GETTING PWNED LOLOLOLOLOL LOOK AT ME.
Viceroy: Rofl. Pwned. Cookies 4tw.
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The best description of alliances, ever:
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:06:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
This thread can be summed up in two lines:
Intersteller Goons: OMGOMGOMG LOOK AT US WE ARE GETTING PWNED LOLOLOLOLOL LOOK AT ME.
Viceroy: Rofl. Pwned. Cookies 4tw.
Eeerrr.... one... two... three?
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Ryea Eripmav
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Posted - 2005.04.06 18:45:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
muhahahahahhaaha
(maybe its the british sense of humour makes me find it so funny)
(Nope. It's not just your British sense of humor. I find this humorous as well.)
I must say that I nearly fell out of my chair as I read this at the academy. I had no real desire to disturb those around me but I have been quite compelled to laugh for all to hear.
UnholyD has taken a civil gesture -conversation with one's opponent- and exploited it to the point that it is an out and out nuisance. If I were on the receiving end of his convos, I would certainly perceive him as such and would be waiting, just waiting to see when he pops up next. Such a thought occurs to me as one of the funniest things of all, aside from the chatlogs, as I wonder if Digi and Viceroy are doing that with a fantastic foreboding.
But please, UnholyD, be sure to show Viceroy the respect he's due.
P.S.
Viceroy, Digi... Lucian Alucard and I still would like to have you at our wedding, Viceroy of course honoring us by heading up the ceremony. When and where such will take place has yet to be determined and will be disclosed to you later.
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Heliodor Mordureau
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Posted - 2005.04.06 19:15:00 -
[116]
At first, I thought this was quite funny and yeah well worth the read just to see Viceroy in action again. But it's ceased being funny, and repeatedly making new alts to convo Viceroy with is harrassment plain and simple.
I understand you are trying to put a new outlook on things and that is cool, but doing it without breaking the EULA is the best way to go about it.
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Look mate, if it's smack you want then I'll start sending Rohann into your Alliance chat everyday for a week.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.07 00:11:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Heliodor Mordureau
(...)and repeatedly making new alts to convo Viceroy with is harrassment plain and simple (...)
Seems they also consider harassment
-offering 1 on 1 battle on the same system, with a smaller ship
-with a main, not an alt
-when nobody else of the corp is around (I mean, not even logged)
Yeah, PvP is broken. 
Sheessh... I have so much to learn still... guess that's the real challenge after all... 
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Heid banger
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Posted - 2005.04.07 00:25:00 -
[118]
why cant this god forsaken thread be done already.
quick answer to the thread is no!!
Nemesis : Retributive justice in its execution or outcome
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.04.07 01:13:00 -
[119]
Yeah... it's old already, not funny anymore...
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.04.08 05:37:00 -
[120]
I would like it stated that Viceroy is God and Digi is the next Pope
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.04.08 10:22:00 -
[121]
Old or not,i just happened to stumble across this thread and all i have to say is....AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
Good job to the new guys,they have just the right attitude. Just be careful not to get a warning or ban. I think you should stop the convo thing to be on the safe side,as all the damage is already done and you've given most of the posters here a good laugh and all(although i'd love to see some more chat logs).
I wish i hadn't been so lazy to make some ISK in this game,i'm a 6 month player with just 40mil in my wallet.With the current war situation my alliance is facing,i'm trying to conserve money in case i start losing expensive ships,otherwise i would gladly donate enough to keep you in cruisers for some time.
However,i have a very rich friend whom i might be able to convince to do just that,as long as you keep his identity secret.
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Katrel LaBain
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:55:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Katrel LaBain on 09/04/2005 19:02:05
Great readings all
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Samora
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:56:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Samora on 09/04/2005 18:58:49
BlackDog Rackh'am Quote:
otherwise i would gladly donate enough to keep you in cruisers for some time. However,i have a very rich friend whom i might be able to convince to do just that,as long as you keep his identity secret.
Thx for thinking of us, very nice :) I do think Digi like's the Ibis's like I was in though, so that shouldn't be to hard to keep running. BTW Digi nice kill
I am still waiting for him to reply and give me my setup options for my other ship however. Might be waiting a bit though heh.
Hoping he responds soon though, I really want to get it up and running to practice with FH.
Stay Strong Everyone
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Iluvy
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Posted - 2005.04.18 21:19:00 -
[124]
Ahahaa, this is brilliant stuff! I wholeheartedly approve of the newbie corp's attitude. Though sadly it does seem the convos will be considered harrasment (OH NOES! SUM1 IS HERRESSING THEIR MORT4L F0EZ!!), so I guess those should be curtailed.
Still, this is an excellent attitude to take. And it's funny, too, though that has to be credited to all convoing parties, not just UnholyD.
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Ryea Eripmav
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Posted - 2005.04.20 15:59:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Iluvy
OH NOES! SUM1 IS HERRESSING THEIR MORT4L F0EZ
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(> <) The Bunny strikes again, on his way to world domination.
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Oh! I love the bunny..." |
Grievance
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Posted - 2005.04.20 16:10:00 -
[126]
My favourite bit was this:
Originally by: Viceroy
Viceroy > I'll shove a clock down your throat
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F4ze
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:30:00 -
[127]
This thread is comedy :)
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Epofhis
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Posted - 2005.04.20 21:00:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Grievance
My favourite bit was this:
Originally by: Viceroy
Viceroy > I'll shove a clock down your throat
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that was some funny sheet right there, i dont care who u r thats funny
/me wipes the tears from my eyes
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Shinomori Aoshi
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Posted - 2005.04.21 12:11:00 -
[129]
In EvE the skills and ability to use better ships are all "TIME BASED". So there is no way that some noob can stand a chance against 1,5 year old player. So noobs choose to **** them off by convoing or hiding in stations so that they give up at the end. I think it's a nice tactic, the best that noobs can do.
In this situation, it's masked as a contract deal. But there is no way someone would pay 200 mil initial + 75 mil each week to hire mercenaries to kill a noob corp.
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Baron Tane
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Posted - 2005.04.22 04:28:00 -
[130]
Hi. I would just like to call attention to the fact that the line
Quote:
[ 2005.03.31 14:38:22 ] Viceroy > Mis-interpret my tachyons, weakling.
deserves some sort of prize.
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2005.04.22 04:45:00 -
[131]
[ 2005.03.31 14:37:46 ] Viceroy > I'll give your girlfriend and wife to my Brutor slaves
they cute? im single and lookin
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2005.04.22 09:26:00 -
[132]
stickeh!!!!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.04.22 09:38:00 -
[133]
1.) This thread is a riot.
2.) Crimsonjade, that is a very nice sig!
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Persia
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Posted - 2005.04.22 11:25:00 -
[134]
I love this thread. Well played by the noobs.
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