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Eve Lunaris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:11:00 -
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as I could see in EVE Online that there are no morals no restrictions too human capabilities. Does this translate well to reality itself? The strong consume the weak and the smart control the dumb. I see it as the natural order of what things should be.
Why is there much suffering and destruction in this world? Why does evil return every time it is defeated?
As I play I see how it appeals to people. Death and destruction is what humanity desires. People deep within desire their own destruction.
Society is a sham, it prevent humans from embracing their dark nature.
Peace allows the weak to exist and stagnate humans.
I see it now, people desire a world where there is suffering and destruction.
The suffering and pain that will be inflicted upon all, a grim reaper that strike upon all equally.
Imagine a world where every one went through every physical, mental, and spiritual tortures committed by humans in history. A hell where the weak perish, and those who survive hell are the ones worthy of existence. A world where strong and beautiful things exist. |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
86
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:19:00 -
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Children are taught that all people are equal. Some adults are so stupid they still believe it. I think you're right, they do hold humanity back OP
If only there were a way we could cleanse the world of these parasites. |
Alara IonStorm
3352
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:25:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:Children are taught that all people are equal. Some adults are so stupid they still believe it. I think you're right, they do hold humanity back OP
If only there were a way we could cleanse the world of these parasites.
Yes then we could have the powerhouse civilization that is Central Africa.
Truth is by circumstance or failure a lot of people find themselves in a rough spot but with aid and help few stay there and end up producing more for the society.
The less violence in a society the bigger, smarter and more prosperous it becomes. Does that mean that only the strong survive is wrong, no, it means that letting people die off is a huge waste of resources to a society.
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Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
91
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:25:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:Children are taught that all people are equal.
I was taught to not trust Whitey. |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries
Epsilon Fleet
187
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:26:00 -
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I just mine asteroids, just a game.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
125
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:30:00 -
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The reason for war and suffering in this world is clear: Most people do not play EvE and use it as an environment to live out their bad desires etc. |
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:33:00 -
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that was a bit emo.... Don't do anything rash you are too young to die!
But seriously humans thrive on Death and Destruction.
We fight to survive, it is in our nature.
How advanced a civilization is/was is based on their military might, not the science and religion.
We kill a poisonous insect because it threatens our life.
We put down animals that attack humans.
We murder each other over pocket change.
We extort lesser nations to keep our 1st world lifestyles.
We start wars to keep our nation safe.
We play games to unwind and do things we cannot normally do.
With Eve Online the rules are set and the universe is ours for the taking.
If you are feeling generous try sending some isk my way. :D |
Alara IonStorm
3352
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:40:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:
How advanced a civilization is/was is based on their military might, not the science and religion.
Untrue. There is a correlation between military and advancement because other people without advancement in other areas try to invade. Overall it is a waste and if the threat wasn't there people could do without.
Here is the thing, military advanced nations only have advanced military because of education and science, that is why people don't bash each other with rocks they use unmanned drones and tanks.
Violence is not the answer it is the impediment.
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Nexus Day
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:44:00 -
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Is this an excerpt from Mein Kampf?
Any race you want to single out? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10171
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:49:00 -
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Oh, look. It's this thread again.
This will end wellGǪ as always. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:05:00 -
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Posting in a stealth Miner Bumping whine thread
It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways:
He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1646
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:07:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Posting in a stealth Miner Bumping whine thread
Hmm, interesting way to look at it.
So they need to be buffed vs bumpers, yes?
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Iam a Spy2
solo and loveing it
24
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:12:00 -
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Eve Lunaris wrote:as I could see in EVE Online that there are no morals no restrictions too human capabilities. Does this translate well to reality itself? The strong consume the weak and the smart control the dumb. I see it as the natural order of what things should be.
Why is there much suffering and destruction in this world? Why does evil return every time it is defeated?
As I play I see how it appeals to people. Death and destruction is what humanity desires. People deep within desire their own destruction.
Society is a sham, it prevent humans from embracing their dark nature.
Peace allows the weak to exist and stagnate humans.
I see it now, people desire a world where there is suffering and destruction.
The suffering and pain that will be inflicted upon all, a grim reaper that strike upon all equally.
Imagine a world where every one went through every physical, mental, and spiritual tortures committed by humans in history. A hell where the weak perish, and those who survive hell are the ones worthy of existence. A world where strong and beautiful things exist.
IT is true people trying to kill people is what turn tect into what we have today but peace allso lets the minds like Einstein and other people's minds shine though. Could we have alot of the tect we have today if Einstein was killed for beening weak?
I dont think so great mind dont not mean a great body for fighting.
Oh and your whole "A hell where the weak perish, and those who survive hell are the ones worthy of existence. A world where strong and beautiful things exist." sound alot like Hittler. Its been said with out the weak Beautiful thing would not be around for the Strong would call it weak and destory it.
Food for thought. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1646
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:14:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Is this an excerpt from Mein Kampf?
Any race you want to single out?
Are you saying it's just a copy and paste effort?
That's really sad. And a weak troll.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
86
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:20:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Is this an excerpt from Mein Kampf?
Any race you want to single out? Are you saying it's just a copy and paste effort? That's really sad. And a weak troll.
It's not an excerpt, is that what you're saying?
I guess some people just can't handle the cold, hard style of truth telling OP is dishing out |
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
93
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:23:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:
It's not an excerpt, is that what you're saying?
I guess some people just can't handle the cold, hard style of truth telling OP is dishing out
Yeah NPC Alts created for the purposes of Trolling should always be taken seriously.
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Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
86
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:25:00 -
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I find that often they're the only people you CAN trust... |
Azami Nevinyrall
Homeworld Republic
Intrepid Crossing
582
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:35:00 -
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EVE does not reflect our true humanity, we're still bound by rules and restrictions set by an outside governing body (CCP)...
If you want to see our true humanity reflected you must remove these 2 things...
Not only will you see us for who we actually are, then CCP can call this game a TRUE sandbox...
Apperently I'm on twitter now...
@AzamiNevinyrall |
Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp
Unified Church of the Unobligated
40
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:42:00 -
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I played chess yesterday - and I was very destructive. I killed two horses and a queen.  |
Alara IonStorm
3352
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:44:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Not only will you see us for who we actually are, then CCP can call this game a TRUE sandbox...
Don't forget to add in perma death and the inability to role a new character.
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
294
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:48:00 -
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Maybe it's just the people I fly with, but every day I play this game I see random acts of kindness and compassion, far beyond what is expected in any situation, EVE or not.
The fact these acts of kindness and understanding take place against a dark backdrop just shows to me the good in humanity even stronger.
ITWASREALIWASTHERE
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Euvarius Abraxas
Running with Knives
Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:59:00 -
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What's sad is that you are looking for "truth" in a video game. If you want to find "truth," I would recommend looking up from your monitor and going out into the world. These are shadows, and "truth" is relative to experience.
"And now look again, and see what will naturally follow if the prisoners are released and disabused of their error. At first, when any of them is liberated and compelled suddenly to stand up and turn his neck round and walk and look towards the light, he will suffer sharp pains; the glare will distress him, and he will be unable to see the realities of which in his former state he had seen the shadows; and then conceive some one saying to him, that what he saw before was an illusion, but that now, when he is approaching nearer to being and his eye is turned towards more real existence, he has a clearer vision, -what will be his reply? And you may further imagine that his instructor is pointing to the objects as they pass and requiring him to name them, -- will he not be perplexed? Will he not fancy that the shadows which he formerly saw are truer than the objects which are now shown to him?" - The Allegory of the Cave, Plato |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
88
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:00:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Maybe it's just the people I fly with
It is
Kindness and empathy are complex survival mechanisms and as soon as you think you're doing something selfless you're now doing it for yourself, you sanctimonious boob. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
297
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:05:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Maybe it's just the people I fly with It is Kindness and empathy are complex survival mechanisms and as soon as you think you're doing something selfless you're now doing it for yourself, you sanctimonious boob.
While I am in favour of boobs in general I do not approve of you sullying boob's good name by using it as a lame insult.
Also I'm well aware of evolutionary psychology in general and that there is truly no such thing as a selfless act. However if I constantly believed that I would throw myself off a bridge.
(By the way, interpretation of reality is a survival trait too).
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Azumi Zimu
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
88
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:08:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
While I am in favour of boobs in general I do not approve of you sullying boob's good name by using it as a lame insult.
Also I'm well aware of evolutionary psychology in general and that there is truly no such thing as a selfless act. However if I constantly believed that I would throw myself off a bridge.
(By the way, interpretation of reality is a survival trait too).
I wasn't calling you a boob, I was calling the hypothetical "you" a boob as soon as he thought he was doing something selfless. |
Nexus Day
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:14:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Is this an excerpt from Mein Kampf?
Any race you want to single out? Are you saying it's just a copy and paste effort? That's really sad. And a weak troll.
No, I am saying there have been "like minded" people throughout history, and they have been regarded as monsters.
And monsters are why people have banded together throughout history. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
298
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:16:00 -
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Azumi Zimu wrote:
I wasn't calling you a boob, I was calling the hypothetical "you" a boob as soon as he thought he was doing something selfless.
All boobs are important, even hypothetical boobs!
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:22:00 -
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What exactly is the point of the OP.
The thread titles made it seem like a possible reflection of whether or not peoples behavior in EVE has any bearing on how they would act in the real world, from a grop standpoint.
All I read was some emogoth ranting about wanting everything to be dark, and suffering. I kept seeing images of the little emogoth kids from south park. I kept expecing the post to devlove into a bunch of ranting about vamps and how they aren't goth.
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Buck Badger
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:24:00 -
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Eve Lunaris wrote:as I could see in EVE Online that there are no morals no restrictions too human capabilities. Does this translate well to reality itself?
If EvE were enjoyed by a majority of humanity I would agree that it does. However, EvE only appeals to a small niche group of humanity. Many people only like to dabble here for a month or so, never to return.
Given the large number of people who don't play EvE, is it more likely that humanity dislikes such conflict? And that EvE merely represents those dark desires that, even when given the chance to live out those desires in a consequence free environment such as EvE, most humans lack? |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1821
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:49:00 -
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People behave the way they do in EVE because they are behind a computer screen and have anonymity. I tend to treat people in EVE the same way I would in reality. For the most part I consider myself a pretty decent guy. I guarantee you though, you come up against most people that play EVE in reality and they are completely different people. Guys who think they are cool are in fact dorks, those who think they are smart are morons and so on...
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
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