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Demolishar
United Aggression
393
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:35:00 -
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The specific rewards are not shown at all clearly on the invite page. Can you please update this to show the specific rewards that are available, or tell me in this thread which rewards are available. Thankyou. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
393
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:36:00 -
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Ryan Farmern wrote:Blah blah blah
Your exponential alt proliferation is causing exponential PLEX price increase. |
Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:49:00 -
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Anabaric wrote:Arydanika wrote:In retrospect of typing this post I suppose I could route the link through one of my alts, but they're pretty much taken care of as well. I'd rather have a way to convert that time in to something else that would benefit my fan site. This is the obvious idea for fansites, and exactly what I will do with mine, that way the benefits can still be shared. Previously I've always split the isk of a buddy reward with the new buddy. The only thing is, as I said in the full context of my post, my alts game time is already taken care of so it really doesn't benefit me that way either. Unless i make another alt for the sake some where to put game time. That seems kind of... excessive, extravagant, I'm not sure what the right word is. Maybe silly? I don't need that many alts. I hardly have time for the ones I have. Voices from the Void; a bi-weekly podcast and weekly news vlog featuring current events of the MMORPG Eve Online. Check out other Eve Online podcasts by visiting the Eve Online Pod Pack. |
Anabaric
Kadavr Black Guard Shadow Cartel
6
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:54:00 -
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Current rewards are basically a 30 day game extension applied directly to your account Or a Plex - but you can only have a Plex if your buddy pays with real isk,
You can't put a plex into the buddy system and get a plex out. Site: http://pvp101.net Blog: http://imsdemons.pvp101.net-á Lowsec Ebil Piwate. |
Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:03:00 -
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I had a potential idea for non-cash commissions for the Affiliate Programs. I would really prefer a non-cash option, but recognize IGÇÖm probably in the great minority. I hope itGÇÖs something CCP will consider.
Credits: Instead of taking cash payments for the subs, allow players to have credit with Eve Online. Allow the credit to be used through the Eve Online Store to purchase PLEX and other goods. Affiliates can then use those goods as promotional items or personal use.
The PLEX portion of this suggestion maybe iffy. CCP would need to make it very clear abuse will not be tolerated and may result in dismissal from the program. ThereGÇÖs also the option to exclude PLEX all together. The point of the suggestion is really just to have a choice of how you accept the commission.
Credits can also be used to allow Affiliate Program promotions on Eve Online subscriptions. For instance, evetimecode.com gives Lost in Eve podcast listeners a discount code & listeners are able to get 10% off their PLEX purchases. IGÇÖd love to offer something like this on my site to benefit current users and new users a like.
Implantation of this would most likely be a huge challenge. There are probably background components IGÇÖm not aware of when it comes to CCP doing these things, but itGÇÖs an idea to get the ball rolling. Hopefully this will be able to create some ideas on non-cash benefits for the program. Voices from the Void; a bi-weekly podcast and weekly news vlog featuring current events of the MMORPG Eve Online. Check out other Eve Online podcasts by visiting the Eve Online Pod Pack. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
45
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:09:00 -
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Good job CCP :)
Now we can broadcast invitations with ease ! *Yelling "Manticooore !" on teamspeak* |
Ingkala
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
0
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:17:00 -
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Ponies.
This is the best dev blog ever. |
Tubrug1
Lai Dai First Guard
32
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:25:00 -
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So if we made a 21-day account an hour before this dev blog was made, then tried to upgrade it half an hour before it was made with PLEX only for it to say "Service not available at the moment", and we eventually upgrade it 10 minutes after then dev blog, can we still receive the PLEX ? Carebear PVP Tournament- -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167216&find=unread |
Lord Gragert
Mercury Metal Mining
0
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:29:00 -
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Can I have a higher rez copy of Princess Celestia having Ponyville bombed from orbit? |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
1614
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:34:00 -
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Arydanika wrote:And now that I have read the Affiliate Program information I have more things to post.
First, this looks absolutely great. The payouts are incredibly generous and the commissions are way more than what most Time Code Affiliate Program's pay out. The brackets seem a little unreasonable when coming from the perspective of small website sites, but it's a 100% payout with a starting payout of 50% which is just stupid to argue over for reasons already mentioned.
Secondly, please consider a non-cash option. For US residents the site owners would have to put in W2s and pay taxes on our revenues. Cash affiliate programs can also get us in to copy right trouble depending on how their fan site is setup; if we use Creative Commons material, music rights etc. The legal ramifications cash incentives produce may cause some fan sites to not to participate in the program. A non-cash payment option would be nice and it allows CCP to keep those revenues so we can have more iteration, ships and other cool non-jesus features.
Third, please make the Affliate link a little more visable on that page. I hope CCP will link it on the Fan Site pages of the Community and Evelopedia sites.
Lastly, with the above comments in mind, CCP did well by adding PayPal as a payment provided. PayPal does create tax forms for those in the US and it such an easy handling method when it comes to things like this.
Point taken. I'm hoping to make some changes to the affiliate program in the not-so-distant future, so please send the feedback my way -- it's most appreciated! (you can use the affiliate program email for that: affiliate AT ccpgames.com).
And now I'll stop derailing the thread.
CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire |
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
183
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:39:00 -
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Finally. Thanks! |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
189
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:45:00 -
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So let me get this straight? They are removing my reward of a plex for inviting a friend (or my self)?
Kinda lame. I'm part of the Eve unwashed dirty masses, and this is the only way I could get a hold of a plex.
I'M SO BELLIGERENT AND UNDESIRABLE RIGHT NOW! An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10180
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:57:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:So let me get this straight? They are removing my reward of a plex for inviting a friend (or my self)? No, they're removing the ability to create multiple accounts while adding no money to CCP's coffers.
You can still get the PLEX if the invited hand CCP some cash to fully activate their account. You just can't cycle a PLEX through both accounts to increase the number of accounts (as in: buy PLEX for ISK GåÆ invite buddy GåÆ give PLEX GåÆ activate account with PLEX GåÆ get PLEX GåÆ sell PLEX for ISK). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Donaldo Duck
Nomad Inc. Hansa Teutonica
5
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:22:00 -
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Will there be a list for who made a new account with my invitelink (maybe now with main-ingame-character), so that i can support my new buddy?
Like the current "past invites"-list for manually invite-and-accepted buddyinvites, or are they only listed there if they fully upgrade their account? |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
420
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:41:00 -
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Mar Drakar wrote:DEATH TO ALL PONIES
as for no more plexes from this program, I find that reasonable, because with url based recruitment it could cause some unbalanced plex concentrations.
Expect the alt cycling ponies here to complain like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u299-o66wo&feature=related Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up.-á Typical NULL seccer whine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u299-o66wo&feature=related |
Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
117
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:49:00 -
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awww its a shame i have gotten 3 of my months of gameplay from buddies i invited and then activated with plex... but guess is for the best... |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1098
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:52:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:awww its a shame i have gotten 3 of my months of gameplay from buddies i invited and then activated with plex... but guess is for the best... That still works. They can use a PLEX as long as you request 30 days of game time as the reward. Its just PLEX for PLEX that is gone. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Trade Anything
Dragon Inc.
7
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:55:00 -
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Is that live now? I was plannung on starting two industry alts and the Plex thing would be great for it. |
Olerie Viliana
Devicron
0
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Posted - 2012.10.29 19:32:00 -
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The learning curve for eve is incredibly steep. You have just killed your best method for getting new players into the game. This doesn't affect me personally, but whoever made the decision to remove plex for plex has ruined the new player recruitment for many corps. You are going to lose money in the long run. System works great now, so let's break it. I don't understand your logic. |
Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
117
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Posted - 2012.10.29 21:37:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:awww its a shame i have gotten 3 of my months of gameplay from buddies i invited and then activated with plex... but guess is for the best... That still works. They can use a PLEX as long as you request 30 days of game time as the reward. Its just PLEX for PLEX that is gone. ahh good to know, then i just worry prices of plex will soar even higher now lol! |
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Reticle
Sight Picture
70
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Posted - 2012.10.29 21:48:00 -
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I'm one of the Plex for Plex lovers, and I'm going to miss this option.
Part of what it makes it useful is that 51 days free means it provides enough time to actually become invested in the game. For 14 day and 21 day trials, esp weekend warrior types, you've barely gotten to scratch the surface of EVE before you have to make a decision to fork over cash. With a learning curve far beyond other MMOs, this creates a problem for the potential player. If they're not OCD types like us, complexity for short play periods translates to deciding not activate the new subscription. "It's cool, but it's too time consuming to pay to learn." The 51 days gets more players over that hump. Seven weekends is enough time to follow through on researching and learning basic game mechanics (remember going to look up ONE thing and then realizing 2 hours had passed?). More importantly, 51 days is long enough to train a more substantial character that can really start to do the cool stuff. That gives noobs a taste of the good stuff just before time's up.
If this game were less complex and difficult, 2 or 4 weekends or 8 to 10 play sessions might be enough to pull people in, but that's barely enough time to figure out what the hell is going on here in EVE.
For me personally, they obviously make excellent short term, low skill alts. There's a limit to my ability to pay for alts for temporary gaming goals or to test out professions I haven't tried before. But there's also a limit to how many clients I can run (not many) at one time, so personally it's not like I have had hundreds of alts or anything crazy. It was nice to be able to buy my plex to reup this account and use it to start a 51 day account on which I could train any skill without the trial limitation or to train up an alt for sale so that I can buy more PLEX. Thinking about it for a minute, that's probably the primary benefit over me using a standard trial alt. It's certainly not a convenience I'm going to pay for though, so you won't be making any more money off me than before.
Honestly, I'm not sure in what way the Plex for Plex has been/could be abused other than alt hordes, which can be created anyway with regular trials. The PLEX get bought off the market, end up with player. You give us the first month, you get all the others. They'll still get sold onto the market or burned in other ways. I'm not sure I see the problem.
BTW is it that its still just game time or plex rewards for now? or is there some other reward i'm missing? I can't seem to find anything. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1099
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Posted - 2012.10.29 21:55:00 -
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Reticle wrote:I'm one of the Plex for Plex lovers, and I'm going to miss this option.
Part of what it makes it useful is that 51 days free means it provides enough time to actually become invested in the game. For 14 day and 21 day trials, esp weekend warrior types, you've barely gotten to scratch the surface of EVE before you have to make a decision to fork over cash. With a learning curve far beyond other MMOs, this creates a problem for the potential player. If they're not OCD types like us, complexity for short play periods translates to deciding not activate the new subscription. "It's cool, but it's too time consuming to pay to learn." The 51 days gets more players over that hump. Seven weekends is enough time to follow through on researching and learning basic game mechanics (remember going to look up ONE thing and then realizing 2 hours had passed?). More importantly, 51 days is long enough to train a more substantial character that can really start to do the cool stuff. That gives noobs a taste of the good stuff just before time's up.
If this game were less complex and difficult, 2 or 4 weekends or 8 to 10 play sessions might be enough to pull people in, but that's barely enough time to figure out what the hell is going on here in EVE.
For me personally, they obviously make excellent short term, low skill alts. There's a limit to my ability to pay for alts for temporary gaming goals or to test out professions I haven't tried before. But there's also a limit to how many clients I can run (not many) at one time, so personally it's not like I have had hundreds of alts or anything crazy. It was nice to be able to buy my plex to reup this account and use it to start a 51 day account on which I could train any skill without the trial limitation or to train up an alt for sale so that I can buy more PLEX. Thinking about it for a minute, that's probably the primary benefit over me using a standard trial alt. It's certainly not a convenience I'm going to pay for though, so you won't be making any more money off me than before.
Honestly, I'm not sure in what way the Plex for Plex has been/could be abused other than alt hordes, which can be created anyway with regular trials. The PLEX get bought off the market, end up with player. You give us the first month, you get all the others. They'll still get sold onto the market or burned in other ways. I'm not sure I see the problem.
BTW is it that its still just game time or plex rewards for now? or is there some other reward i'm missing? I can't seem to find anything.
Game time as a reward, even if the buddy account is extended via PLEX, is still available. This means you can invite one buddy (who then subscribes, using a PLEX you provide) a month and neither him or you have to spend money. So that 51 days is still there, just only for one buddy a month.
Edit, well you can do more than one a month, but you would be buying more than one PLEX a month and accumulating time on your account faster than you are using it.
Also, if you have 3 accounts then its 3 a month without accumulating extra time. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Marcus McTavish
EnC Heavy Industries Rolling Thunder.
47
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:13:00 -
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Darn. No more rolling 51-day alts. I guess I will have to train up some new cyno chars then :( |
Reticle
Sight Picture
70
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:39:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Game time as a reward, even if the buddy account is extended via PLEX, is still available. This means you can invite one buddy (who then subscribes, using a PLEX you provide) a month and neither him or you have to spend money. So that 51 days is still there, just only for one buddy a month.
Edit, well you can do more than one a month, but you would be buying more than one PLEX a month and accumulating time on your account faster than you are using it.
Also, if you have 3 accounts then its 3 a month without accumulating extra time. I still don't see what problem this change is solving. Could some more scam-savvy person explain it? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
754
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:04:00 -
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Reticle wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Game time as a reward, even if the buddy account is extended via PLEX, is still available. This means you can invite one buddy (who then subscribes, using a PLEX you provide) a month and neither him or you have to spend money. So that 51 days is still there, just only for one buddy a month.
Edit, well you can do more than one a month, but you would be buying more than one PLEX a month and accumulating time on your account faster than you are using it.
Also, if you have 3 accounts then its 3 a month without accumulating extra time. I still don't see what problem this change is solving. Could some more scam-savvy person explain it?
Well, there are the people rolling lots of low skill alts, using up server resources while CCP never get any money from them.
( 1 plex spent, one plex gained. net effect = no cost) FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.As well as mysql and CSV/XLS conversions of the Static Data Extract. |
Infinion
Awesome Corp
32
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:46:00 -
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Ingkala wrote:Ponies.
This is the best dev blog ever.
quoting for truth |
Lillith Sakata
Legio Umbra Obsidian Mining Coalition
0
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Posted - 2012.10.30 00:20:00 -
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I personally don't see this as a good move for getting new people into the game. I personally had a friend get me into the game using the PLEX for PLEX option, along with about 5 others. I've since paid for my time using cash, and was thinking of getting a few more of my mates into the game via the same method.
The problem I see with this, is that now I have no incentive to use the multiple plex deals that I've seen to save myself some money, while getting friends into the game who will invariably pay in the end themselves.
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
302
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Posted - 2012.10.30 00:47:00 -
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ITT people moaning about not having free 51 day alts by pretending to care about the newbies.
I invited a friend, she paid cash because i got her into the game, I got a PLEX, sold it and gave her half the money. You know, because it's an actual friend not an alt. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
12
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Posted - 2012.10.30 03:02:00 -
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Another thing broken. I sometimes gave out invites to people cos I would receive PLEX if they can they enough ISK to buy their own PLEX (with my ISK-help). No more... |
Arronicus
Serenity Prime Kraken.
1
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:38:00 -
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Extremely dissapointed to see my little pony faggotry on a CCP post. |
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