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Speedkermit Damo TETRA-HEDRON 3	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:31:00 - [1] - Quote I'm a new player. I mine a bit, I have a mining barge but find it incredibly boring and only do it when I am not really concentrating on the PC. I prefer exploration. But the impression I am getting from reading these forums a bit, is that I detect a certain amount of hostility towards miners. What I would really like to know is why is there such frothing, swivel-eyed hate for miners?
Ginger Barbarella State War Academy Caldari State 215	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:31:00 - [2] - Quote Speedkermit Damo wrote: I'm a new player. I mine a bit, I have a mining barge but find it incredibly boring and only do it when I am not really concentrating on the PC. I prefer exploration. Bur from reading these forums a bit, I detect a certain hostility towards miners. What I would really like to know is why is there such frothing, swivel-eyed hate for miners in general? Search function. Use it.
Rordan D'Kherr Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 133	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:32:00 - [3] - Quote Just jealousy because they're rich and somewhat safe.
Speedkermit Damo TETRA-HEDRON 3	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:32:00 - [4] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: Speedkermit Damo wrote: I'm a new player. I mine a bit, I have a mining barge but find it incredibly boring and only do it when I am not really concentrating on the PC. I prefer exploration. Bur from reading these forums a bit, I detect a certain hostility towards miners. What I would really like to know is why is there such frothing, swivel-eyed hate for miners in general? Search function. Use it. Nah!
Casirio DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 79	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:35:00 - [5] - Quote Most of it stems from hatred of AFK isk makers. Because a lot of miners mine afk, and then whine and complain when they come back to their keyboard ganked or bumped off their belt. People have a problem with anyone who can make isk without having any risk or any involvment in the game. I know not all miners are afk miners, but afk anything, I believe, should never be possible in the game.
Some Rando University of Caille Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:36:00 - [6] - Quote Speedkermit Damo wrote: What I would really like to know is why is there such frothing, swivel-eyed hate for miners in general? The more you mine, the more you want to be "left alone" to AFK, because mining is literally the most boring **** anyone ever coded into a game. Because people want to be AFk while "playing" the game they turn into entitled, sniveling little whiners who eschew any interaction whatsoever from other players, self-victimize, and generally whine at the game developers to change PvP mechanics to suit their "needs". Bottom line: Don't mine. Ever.
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 277	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:36:00 - [7] - Quote It seems you may be showing symptoms of bot aspirant behaviour.
Serf of Hurlbat Fueling War Effort 0	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:37:00 - [8] - Quote EVE has a very strong focus on risk VS reward. For some reason, lots of people seem to think that miners are breaking the general consensus that there is no risk-free way to make ISK (I do not agree with such people). *I am Prencleeve Grothsmore and I seek retribution.*
Robert De'Arneth 179	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:39:00 - [9] - Quote Learn this well, play your game and ignore everything else. Their hatred is meaningless. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á
Zimmy Zeta Paramount Commerce 3000	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:41:00 - [10] - Quote Most specialized miners have multiple alt accounts and usually set them up to mine afk. Many people are annoyed that those miners get a lot of iskies for being afk- they get benefits for actually NOT playing the game. What makes things worse is that some (not all) of these miners cannot accept when their ships are attacked and killed whilst they could do nothing to defend them (because they were afk and did not fit a decent tank). These people start whine threads on the forum and try to blackmail ccp to change game mechanics in their favour or else they would cancel all their numerous accounts. The general sentiment amongst the saner people here is that if you decide to put yourself at risk by being afk or not tanking your ship, you should have at least enough spine to accept the possible consequences and not cry like a little female dog. I think this should sum it up for you. I hope I was at least a little helpful. For best results and enhanced forum experience, please read my posts in Snooki's voice
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 1427	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:42:00 - [11] - Quote Its really the games fault for developing mining as a boring drag ass mechanic. The only exciting part HAS been players harassing the miners. Though the vitriol between the two groups used to be contained mostly during the hulkageddon months, yet now its just every damn day.
Geligdio Khan JD Mining Industry 16	Posted - 2012.10.30 15:58:00 - [12] - Quote There is a mining lobby which constantly asks for easier, safer, more profitable mining. Most players resent this and would like to see the only way to improve mining profits to be to move to Low/Null, where you can shot at like any respectable member of the community. The carebears have a lot of power at the moment and lots of other players find that frustrating. Thanks
Norm Tempesta The Konvergent League Sev3rance 8	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:02:00 - [13] - Quote I don't have a single issue with miners. Whiny mineys however, need to be shot.
Metal Icarus Endless Destruction Tribal Band 334	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:06:00 - [14] - Quote people who *** about miners are ***** retards with nothing better to do. Seriously. They get mad at you for mining just because you are mining. James315 makes his living bumping miners in highsec. Pussies hate miners.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 724	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:06:00 - [15] - Quote Casirio wrote: Most of it stems from hatred of AFK isk makers. Because a lot of miners mine afk, and then whine and complain when they come back to their keyboard ganked or bumped off their belt. People have a problem with anyone who can make isk without having any risk or any involvment in the game. I know not all miners are afk miners, but afk anything, I believe, should never be possible in the game. How do you know that a 'lot of miners mine afk'? I have no more idea how many miners mine afk than you do. Too many opinions, too few facts. This is not a signature.
Robert De'Arneth 180	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:08:00 - [16] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Casirio wrote: Most of it stems from hatred of AFK isk makers. Because a lot of miners mine afk, and then whine and complain when they come back to their keyboard ganked or bumped off their belt. People have a problem with anyone who can make isk without having any risk or any involvment in the game. I know not all miners are afk miners, but afk anything, I believe, should never be possible in the game. How do you know that a 'lot of miners mine afk'? I have no more idea how many miners mine afk any more than you do. Too many opinions, too few facts. They make these claims to somehow make themsleves feel important and all knowing. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 421	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:10:00 - [17] - Quote Rordan D'Kherr wrote: Just jealousy because they're ~~rich~~ and somewhat safe. FIXED Null Seccers & gankers hate them because they want EZer lambs to the slaughter & all to often miners do not oblige by going to null & other non safe places like lemmings Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up.-á Typical NULL seccer whine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u299-o66wo&feature=related
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji 671	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:11:00 - [18] - Quote Speedkermit Damo wrote: What I would really like to know is why is there such frothing, swivel-eyed hate for miners? There's no hatred. They're just easy, profitable kills. Hint: stop being an easy, profitable target.
Karn Dulake Sad Flutes 920	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:45:00 - [19] - Quote Zimmy Zeta wrote: Most specialized miners have multiple alt accounts and usually set them up to mine afk. Many people are annoyed that those miners get a lot of iskies for being afk- they get benefits for actually NOT playing the game. What makes things worse is that some (not all) of these miners cannot accept when their ships are attacked and killed whilst they could do nothing to defend them (because they were afk and did not fit a decent tank). These people start whine threads on the forum and try to blackmail ccp to change game mechanics in their favour or else they would cancel all their numerous accounts. The general sentiment amongst the saner people here is that if you decide to put yourself at risk by being afk or not tanking your ship, you should have at least enough spine to accept the possible consequences and not cry like a little female dog. I think this should sum it up for you. I hope I was at least a little helpful. This I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 21	Posted - 2012.10.30 16:58:00 - [20] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: How do you know that a 'lot of miners mine afk'? I have no more idea how many miners mine afk than you do. Too many opinions, too few facts. Observation. As an Agent of the New Order, I spend a lot of my time surrounded by miners, and I am therefore at liberty to study them closely. A significant majority of them mine AFK. In response to the OP, there are several reasons why there is a general disdain of miners among the EVE population. Here are some of them. Mining is, in its very essence, a bot-aspirant profession. Even a worthy miner is effectively sitting there doing nothing while his ship blasts asteroids. You'd think that such an activity would only have minimal profits, but no; mining can be one of the most profitable professions in the game. Isn't there something wrong with this? There's also the problem that miners as a group have had some of the most profoundly negative effects on the game. The reason that hisec nowadays is so much safer and more secure than it was when EVE launched is almost exclusively due to the forum whining of miners. The mining barge buff was due to miners whinging about how easy it was to gank them, as was the buffing of CONCORD and countless other things which have had negative impacts on the way other people want to play. The obvious counter to this argument is that gankers have negative impacts on the way miners want to play. However, this is not correct. EVE is a sandbox, and that means that you use the tools CCP has put in the sandbox to achieve your goal. In the case of a ganker, this means he expends a ship, all his modules and some sec status to blow up a miner. In the case of a miner, it used to mean that a miner could expend some ore yield to make it harder for a ganker to blow him up. But not content with this, miners petitioned CCP until CCP made it so that miners could easily thwart gankers without having to worry about building fits or sacrificing ore yield. So yeah. That's some of why people don't like miners. It is never too late to change your ways. www.MinerBumping.com
Bane Necran Appono Astos 604	Posted - 2012.10.30 17:02:00 - [21] - Quote Because they're so handsome and charming. Damn their good genes! "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham
Sentamon 202	Posted - 2012.10.30 17:04:00 - [22] - Quote Lots of angry people that can't figure out how to mine. :P ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Ghazu 235	Posted - 2012.10.30 17:30:00 - [23] - Quote Because soon you too will start to whine. http://www.minerbumping.com/
Alpheias Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse 1612	Posted - 2012.10.30 17:34:00 - [24] - Quote Metal Icarus wrote: people who *** about miners are ***** retards with nothing better to do. Seriously. They get mad at you for mining just because you are mining. James315 makes his living bumping miners in highsec. Pussies hate miners. Oh sheeeyt! Getting told off by Tribal Band! I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
Metal Icarus Endless Destruction Tribal Band 336	Posted - 2012.10.30 17:41:00 - [25] - Quote Alpheias wrote: Metal Icarus wrote: people who *** about miners are ***** retards with nothing better to do. Seriously. They get mad at you for mining just because you are mining. James315 makes his living bumping miners in highsec. Pussies hate miners. Oh sheeeyt! Getting told off by Tribal Band! Shh... they don't know Im in yet....
Alpheias Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse 1612	Posted - 2012.10.30 17:42:00 - [26] - Quote Metal Icarus wrote: Alpheias wrote: Metal Icarus wrote: people who *** about miners are ***** retards with nothing better to do. Seriously. They get mad at you for mining just because you are mining. James315 makes his living bumping miners in highsec. Pussies hate miners. Oh sheeeyt! Getting told off by Tribal Band! Shh... they don't know Im in yet.... I hope you like to lose ships. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
Casirio DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 81	Posted - 2012.10.30 17:42:00 - [27] - Quote Robert De'Arneth wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Casirio wrote: Most of it stems from hatred of AFK isk makers. Because a lot of miners mine afk, and then whine and complain when they come back to their keyboard ganked or bumped off their belt. People have a problem with anyone who can make isk without having any risk or any involvment in the game. I know not all miners are afk miners, but afk anything, I believe, should never be possible in the game. How do you know that a 'lot of miners mine afk'? I have no more idea how many miners mine afk any more than you do. Too many opinions, too few facts. They make these claims to somehow make themsleves feel important and all knowing. lol you got me bro i feel so important now that i'm quoted goes back into wormhole ill leave the highsec shenanigans to james 315 and his fanbois here who obviously have nothing better to do while they afk mine
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 1825	Posted - 2012.10.30 18:10:00 - [28] - Quote Hatred of miners by a few vocal asshats pulled from the 2% of the player base that post in the forums can be safely ignored since it in no way reflects the opinion of the majority of the players. Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks
Arduemont Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans 566	Posted - 2012.10.30 18:13:00 - [29] - Quote Some Rando wrote: Speedkermit Damo wrote: What I would really like to know is why is there such frothing, swivel-eyed hate for miners in general? The more you mine, the more you want to be "left alone" to AFK, because mining is literally the most boring **** anyone ever coded into a game. Because people want to be AFk while "playing" the game they turn into entitled, sniveling little whiners who eschew any interaction whatsoever from other players, self-victimize, and generally whine at the game developers to change PvP mechanics to suit their "needs". Bottom line: Don't mine. Ever. As you can see, the anti-miners are significantly worse whiners than any miner. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice."
Robert De'Arneth 193	Posted - 2012.10.30 18:19:00 - [30] - Quote Arduemont wrote: Some Rando wrote: Speedkermit Damo wrote: What I would really like to know is why is there such frothing, swivel-eyed hate for miners in general? The more you mine, the more you want to be "left alone" to AFK, because mining is literally the most boring **** anyone ever coded into a game. Because people want to be AFk while "playing" the game they turn into entitled, sniveling little whiners who eschew any interaction whatsoever from other players, self-victimize, and generally whine at the game developers to change PvP mechanics to suit their "needs". Bottom line: Don't mine. Ever. As you can see, the anti-miners are significantly worse whiners than any miner. More true words have never been posted in these forums ever!! You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á

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