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absentia	Posted - 2005.04.06 11:54:00 - [181] Originally by: The Ratfink Originally by: absentia Originally by: The Ratfink Originally by: absentia Originally by: The Ratfink Originally by: Harridan's Hauling Originally by: Lord Drax Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE) The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us. I think that's about right anyway ;) Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered. Please do not insult everyoneÆs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident. Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for. As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come. See you on the battlefield. Harri thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership" Actually Shinra MORON, it was offered by Krapz, in the big 17 page thread. Please feel free to continue to show your stupidity. oh yes i play my game on the fourm on page 17 of that thread not in game where we got the real response numb nut If you actually play the game then why are you posting here then? Log on an play the game and let the professional forum *****s do the rest. LMAO. How can Shinra have such stupid members willing to get hooked like a fish? its downtime but you wouldn't know that LMAO of course it's is. But did that stop you from posting yesterday when it wasn't?
bong holio	Posted - 2005.04.06 11:56:00 - [182] look mom i can post white my alt to
absentia	Posted - 2005.04.06 11:58:00 - [183] Originally by: bong holio look mom i can post white my alt to Mmmm, that post would be entertaining, if I was an alt....
olyyyyy	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:02:00 - [184] Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42 Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20 Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war. the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact. See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it. From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores. Let me give you some facts 1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made. 2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us. 3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so. 4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us . 5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile 6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this : 2005.04.04 00:05:00 Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers. Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
Kim Wu	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:17:00 - [185] Originally by: olyyyyy Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42 Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20 Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war. the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact. See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it. From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores. Let me give you some facts 1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made. 2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us. 3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so. 4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us . 5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile 6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this : 2005.04.04 00:05:00 Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers. CYVOK posted on - 2005.04.05 05:03:00 Look at kill mail date? Look at the CLS forum *****s bragging about starting a war There is obviously something up with the kill mail as even SE are on it Probably an abandoned shuttle ^_^ Also xetic "shot" at shinra before that incident aswell after we had moved in. But its all moot now, you betrayed us when you said you wouldnt. Disappointed by you olyyyy, very disappointed. ----------------------------------
Acwron	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:18:00 - [186] Originally by: Reverend Necrona [[...] There was never any intention to kill XETIC really. Sure supremacy may of talked about it because XETIC have been for a long time supremacys main enemies. But the idea was to crush imperium, fountain and g. [...] Yeah and for that reason you moved to the other side of the galaxy. Serious dude do you think anybody believes that? If you want to attack G or IMP you should have moved your blob to XZH or somewhere else in the north west not to Curse. Ah I forgot you guys love doing tons of jumps ;). We will get fights im already looking forward to that. The question is who is going to have to make the jumps...
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:18:00 - [187] Originally by: olyyyyy Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42 Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20 Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war. the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact. See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it. From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores. Let me give you some facts 1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made. 2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us. 3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so. 4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us . 5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile 6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this : 2005.04.04 00:05:00 Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers. Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Vince Draken	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:19:00 - [188] Originally by: Acwron Originally by: Reverend Necrona [[...] There was never any intention to kill XETIC really. Sure supremacy may of talked about it because XETIC have been for a long time supremacys main enemies. But the idea was to crush imperium, fountain and g. [...] Yeah and for that reason you moved to the other side of the galaxy. Serious dude do you think anybody believes that? If you want to attack G or IMP you should have moved your blob to XZH or somewhere else in the north west not to Curse. Ah I forgot you guys love doing tons of jumps ;). We will get fights im already looking forward to that. The question is who is going to have to make the jumps... I doubt you'd fly all the way here to log off.
Vince Draken	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:20:00 - [189] Originally by: olyyyyy Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42 Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20 Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war. the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact. See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it. From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores. Let me give you some facts 1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made. 2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us. 3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so. 4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us . 5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile 6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this : 2005.04.04 00:05:00 Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers.
Weebear	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:25:00 - [190] Originally by: Darken Two Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ***ed off at you. There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short). ----------------------- Honor and Serve!*
Belian	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:36:00 - [191] Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Darken Two Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you. There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short). hmmmm then by your words we should have attack XF space cuz there was 24 hours befor the nap kick and XF would have hade no prob whit it Shinra Vid
Christobel	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:36:00 - [192] Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Darken Two Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ***ed off at you. There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short). [ 2005.04.05 18:59:07 ] Cinnander > someone cough* me popped an indy I was under the impression I was allowed to shoot and now their knickers are all in a twist :) [ 2005.04.05 19:01:08 ] Cinnander > I did more politically in 35 seconds than XF has done in 2 months however. And if it gives us FINALLY something to shoot at...
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:44:00 - [193] Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Darken Two Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you. There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short). Ok not to be nitpicky or anything, but the guy who shot the hauler says hinra were blue , so why mess?? And him being CLS he should be the first to know about NAPS and all that Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Nira Li	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:49:00 - [194] I will for my third time tell you that creating the SCA was a wrong move and that's why we have this situation after CYVOK's post a shinra indy get's destroyed = Xetic backstabbers
Lordan Stormstalker	Posted - 2005.04.06 12:55:00 - [195] Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer XETIC: ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US. Come get em..... You bet we will. ________________
Weebear	Posted - 2005.04.06 13:08:00 - [196] Originally by: Belian Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Darken Two Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ***ed off at you. There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short). hmmmm then by your words we should have attack XF space cuz there was 24 hours befor the nap kick and XF would have hade no prob whit it Not quite, the 24 hours wasn't to go out attacking anyone you felt like, just so that any incidents that happened within that time were given the chance to be resolved, which in this case it wasn't ----------------------- Honor and Serve!*
Shredder	Posted - 2005.04.06 13:10:00 - [197] This is a warning to anyone that ever shoots at me again.
Weebear	Posted - 2005.04.06 13:13:00 - [198] Originally by: Christobel Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Darken Two Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ***ed off at you. There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short). [ 2005.04.05 18:59:07 ] Cinnander > someone cough* me popped an indy I was under the impression I was allowed to shoot and now their knickers are all in a twist :) [ 2005.04.05 19:01:08 ] Cinnander > I did more politically in 35 seconds than XF has done in 2 months however. And if it gives us FINALLY something to shoot at... lol, there is a name from the past. Have you not left CLS yet... I guess the rest of the chat didn't fit in with what you are trying to convey.... ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
Chowdown	Posted - 2005.04.06 13:16:00 - [199] I think he makes his point quite well in a concise manner, as oppose to your 6x quote technique refuting the plainly obvious. New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Harridan's Hauling	Posted - 2005.04.06 13:17:00 - [200] Originally by: Shredder This is a warning to anyone that ever shoots at me again. Shredder, thats actually rather funny.
Tamur	Posted - 2005.04.06 13:18:00 - [201] Please can't you lot actually just bugger off and play the game rather than spewing this sit out all over the boards all bloody day long? Seriously, its such a endless drag of argumentative, whiny, mindnumbing, boring cap. Its a mystery to me that any of you actually have time to log in what with the constant neverending stream of posts.
DrQuiz	Posted - 2005.04.06 13:59:00 - [202] XETIC should take this Cinnander person out and really really spank them.
Naradjah	Posted - 2005.04.06 14:59:00 - [203] So.... to summarize: XF and 'CA' had agreed to a NAP, however it was not in effect yet. On the other side, Millennium has/had a standing war with Black Omega Security. Anister (from BOS) was told that MLM would continue fighting this war, until it was retracted. Anister agrees. Few minutes after the convo between Slothe (MLM) and Anister, MLM shoots down a BOS hauler. Attempts to apologize and reimburse are countered by ATUK/Shinra (mainly, they have the largest forum army) with threats and claims of treason. A post on Supremacy forum said that 'CA' will fight XF anyway, just not yet. (But it will come.) A post of an earlier kill by Shinra vs an Ion Corp member is posted. The first Shinra reply pretty much comes down to saying it isn't relevant, because it wasn't reported. (A kill is a kill, whether it's reported or not imho.) Then ofcourse there's still a post by a Supremacy member saying they were already shooting Keiretsu/Foundation. Result: war! wwwhiiieeee!
Darkrydar	Posted - 2005.04.06 15:05:00 - [204] WOW, the Republic Military School's political science must being doing a lot of current events assignments.
Hulk Hogan	Posted - 2005.04.06 15:11:00 - [205] Originally by: Xenu WTS: Immensia region. minimum bid: 1bn buyout: 20bn will be up for sale in about... 2 hours now.[/quote Selling what you dont have again.....Oh No you captured Fountain and removed them i forgot!!
Naradjah	Posted - 2005.04.06 15:12:00 - [206] Originally by: Darkrydar WOW, the Republic Military School's political science must being doing a lot of current events assignments. Yes, I like politics.. I didn't start playing too long ago (3 months or so), but I like reading up on big 'issues'. It gives me something to do. (It sure beats knitting!)
Toohot	Posted - 2005.04.06 15:13:00 - [207] Well since you guys are not friends anymore we need a new target we are now taking offer you can hire us to kill for you plz contact toohot member of smite
Lardarz B'stard	Posted - 2005.04.06 15:14:00 - [208] Yes, they put it in as their second project right after "Learning to Control Your Ship", and before "Advanced AltFlame Techniques". E.T. Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience.... http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u
Xeris	Posted - 2005.04.06 15:17:00 - [209] Originally by: Hulk Hogan Originally by: Xenu WTS: Immensia region. minimum bid: 1bn buyout: 20bn will be up for sale in about... 2 hours now.[/quote Selling what you dont have again.....Oh No you captured Fountain and removed them i forgot!! Fountain has NPC stations. You dont have that luxury. Too lazy to get my sig changed
Loka	Posted - 2005.04.06 15:22:00 - [210] regarding all other incidents happend or facts of forums evidence you think you have from our private forums, let me tell you different story, because all this mentioned above where only minor accidents, which wouldnt lead to a full scale war against Xetic. Why the hell then, there is a war at all. My personal opinion and i think iam right here is this post, which gave us this nice rules we should follow or ... dunno what but something terrible would have happend to our childrens. I read your post and rules carefully and really i thought, "damn i have to sell my sould here". I havent replyed imidiatly, because i wouldnt make me look fool, because i didnt know about the new "SCA + us" deal. Then i realised that this wasnt signed by anyone except xetic. I mean common, you try to bully around a group of the most known pvp warmongers in EVE, what did you thought would happen. Who knows what would happen in few weeks or months, but for sure your rules were an invitation to hit you mid in face with the hardest punch we are able to dish out. Thats the only and single reason you are in trouble. The fact you started the aggression first, makes Xetic only more retard, because i thought, you want to drag all your allies into this war and make them fight us, if we would have attacked Xetic. But for some me unknown reason, you couldnt wait for our inccident to happen, which would made us the aggressors and didnt give your allies any chance to retract their promised help. Now you made this mistake by starting this foolish war on your own and you gave your allies all ammunition to retract their membership without beeing called traitor or carebears. Probably Xetic became to arrogant thinking they could handle anything they want against any threat in EVE. The problem iam seeing here is most time Xetic was under real preasure they had great help from their allies, which gave them the numbers and power to defend their home. Probably the lack of respect and fear let you make this stupid move. Well lets see where this will end if ever. One thing we wont do for sure, underestimate your abilitys to fight and give you easy kills/wins. Its different to fight back some aggressors or to fight back an invador. But again iam just a simple soldier and iam glad this all is none of my buisness. Also this are ofc, my personal opinions and wont reflect any official statements by my corp. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive

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