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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:05:00 -
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Following an investigation Stain have discovered that Xetic have instigated the current conflict against the Coalition currently based in Curse space. Part of the agreement we had with Xetic and others was a mutual DEFENSE of our alliances. As Xetic violated this by instigating this attack we are forced to withdrawl from the SCA as we feel our trust has been violated.
Boofer Minister for Foreign Affairs, Stain Empire. |
![Trooper B99 Trooper B99](/images/people/img10.png)
Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:06:00 -
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![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
uh-oh on the SCA.
![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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![Hast Hast](/images/people/img7.png)
Hast
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Hast on 05/04/2005 23:07:51 actually I talked to some of my old friends in stain and they had not even heard about the "sca"
nice going CYVOK ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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![Jemima Executionist Jemima Executionist](/images/people/img13.png)
Jemima Executionist
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:07:00 -
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LMFAO
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Shredder
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:07:00 -
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And the moral of this story? DONT ATTACK MY HAULER.
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Gift
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:08:00 -
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xetic and thier warmongering..tisk tisk
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![Seinar Dragmire Seinar Dragmire](/images/people/img12.png)
Seinar Dragmire
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 05/04/2005 23:07:47 looks like CYVOK's mighty coltilition is about as strong as bush's iraqi coltilition was ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
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![Shin Ra Shin Ra](/images/people/img15.png)
Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:08:00 -
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Uh oh, we can't deal with the threat. Lets bury our heads in the sand and hope it goes away. Surely the wont turn on us next. We are their fwends.![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif) ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health |
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:08:00 -
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im glad to see this. gj stain xetic almost pulled you in on their aggression. STAN
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Xenu
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Shredder And the moral of this story? DONT ATTACK MY HAULER.
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:09:00 -
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Didn't see this coming <sarcasm>
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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![Liare Liare](/images/people/img8.png)
Liare
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:09:00 -
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not a surprise as such, as Xetic desided to engage us. and some SE CEO's ive talked to havent even heard about that SCA thing (that too has been posted on these forums)
now, back to watching the map for that nonexisting Xetic fleet. _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people. |
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Xenu
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Seinar Dragmire Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 05/04/2005 23:07:47 looks like CYVOK's mighty coltilition is about as strong as bush's iraqi coltilition was ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
you forgot poland. ________________________________________________________
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shredder And the moral of this story? DONT ATTACK MY HAULER.
lol ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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![Nebba Kenezzer Nebba Kenezzer](/images/people/img11.png)
Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:10:00 -
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XETIC:
ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US.
Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media |
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:10:00 -
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I Applaud Stain Empire.
Bad Xetics, Bad Xetics, What you gonna do, what you gonna do when we come for you?
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shredder And the moral of this story? DONT ATTACK MY HAULER.
lol great shredder --------------------------
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:12:00 -
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LOL I saw this comming a mile away
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![Gilbert Drillerson Gilbert Drillerson](/images/people/img11.png)
Gilbert Drillerson
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:12:00 -
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Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![Warsmith Mcmight Warsmith Mcmight](/images/people/img12.png)
Warsmith Mcmight
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:12:00 -
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/laugh
Arcane Technologies |
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:13:00 -
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Traitors ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif) You know very well XF didn't instigate the current conflict.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
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reaTh
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: reaTh on 05/04/2005 23:12:07 wrong thread ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Shredder And the moral of this story? DONT ATTACK MY HAULER.
lol
leno changes corp again? ![Surprised](/images/icon_surprised.gif)
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 05/04/2005 23:13:36
Originally by: olyyyyy Traitors ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif) You know very well XF didn't instigate the current conflict.
Now look, I think its your honourability being called into contention not SE.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
![Rexthor Hammerfists Rexthor Hammerfists](/images/people/img4.png)
Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:14:00 -
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well, the other 2 times immensea was taken by ca the sa havent done ****, so its no surprise for me.. also not for the xetics i guess ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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![Vyper Kahn Vyper Kahn](/images/people/img3.png)
Vyper Kahn
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:14:00 -
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Apart from declaring war on the curse guys you mean olyyy?
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![Acwron Acwron](/images/people/img6.png)
Acwron
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:15:00 -
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Pretty short sight if you ask me.
Well SE isn't what it used to be.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
SE did not say they would be hostile to you, are you now going to make them hostile?
I assume by your words that you are.
Yet again more Xetic treachery ---------------
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![Nebba Kenezzer Nebba Kenezzer](/images/people/img4.png)
Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
LOL
Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media |
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Valdi
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
more ppl to target u --- We just came to crush...
Director of Recruitment
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anister
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer XETIC:
ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US.
It's funny cuz it's true. ___
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![The Enslaver The Enslaver](/images/people/img8.png)
The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy Traitors ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif) You know very well XF didn't instigate the current conflict.
XF fired first, end of story. Claim otherwise but you know that you are just going for the good guy image :)
Anyway, I respect the SE's choice. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
SE did not say they would be hostile to you, are you now going to make them hostile?
I assume by your words that you are.
Yet again more Xetic treachery
pwned
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![Acwron Acwron](/images/people/img14.png)
Acwron
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: olyyyyy Traitors ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif) You know very well XF didn't instigate the current conflict.
XF fired first, end of story. Claim otherwise but you know that you are just going for the good guy image :)
Anyway, I respect the SE's choice.
The one who post most, must be right...
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Robert Dobbs
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:18:00 -
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So what's the real reason?
Not that I care much. It's obviously not XETIC's honour that is in question here.
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![EL TITAN EL TITAN](/images/people/img5.png)
EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:19:00 -
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aye, im glad to continue fighting alongside SE _________________________________________________ <3 hi |
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LadyScarlet
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:19:00 -
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Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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Artharas
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
SE did not say they would be hostile to you, are you now going to make them hostile?
I assume by your words that you are.
Yet again more Xetic treachery
Amthrianius: You might want to investigate press releases. First of all they often have some flashy banners, second they are said by leaders of corps/alliances not the hardworking peons. ------------------------- These are my views and don't necessarily represent my corp nor my alliance. |
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Liare
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Dobbs So what's the real reason?
Not that I care much. It's obviously not XETIC's honour that is in question here.
so your conception of honor include shooting blue boxed people ? _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people. |
![The Enslaver The Enslaver](/images/people/img2.png)
The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Dobbs So what's the real reason?
Not that I care much. It's obviously not XETIC's honour that is in question here.
You serious?
XF agreed to a NAP, even after they knew of the details of even the SUPRM forums. They then proceeded to fire, even though they made a NAP whilst knowing about all internal communique - almost all of which stating they were not targets (in fact, only one post on ourjoint forums and one on the SUPRM forums... Hardly a real basis).
In short, XF made a NAP with us, and without any further intel of us planning any hostilities against them they broke the NAP, as such they... Die. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:27:00 -
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Beliveeee himmmm, the control panel was going nuts, the ship accidentalely shot our hauler. Now we accidentalely take theyr stations :D _________________________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:27:00 -
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let me be the first to say w000ps Xetic![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
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Rysse Andrama
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:27:00 -
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come on own up.....
which lame shinra/atuk person with a spy in CLS shot the shinra hauler???
Because you know it happened like that, to cause all this on purpose to make yourselfs look innocent LMAO. Just be men and tell them you intended to attack Xetic all along....most people new it anyway
As for SE, the word spinless comes to mind....I expect nothing less of you and what you have become
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Br0dY
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:28:00 -
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Heh... allways respected SE on and off the battlefield... they rarely do dumb things... props to SE for recognizing XF's warmongering! ------------------------------------------------
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Acwron The one who post most, must be right...
I'm glad to see when Stain/xetic/ATUK killed CA their ability to smacktalk didn't die too. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health |
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:29:00 -
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Wow, The enslaver standing around telling everyone how xetic is now finished for the 374th time. It's like dejavu all over again.
Look at the map folks it's obvious who the agressors are here. ATUK and friends are just ****ed that we're playing by their rules. For god sakes, ya'll had the description for the longest time of "ATUK, We HAVE no Honor."
SE chose their side. Whatever...
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rysse Andrama come on own up.....
which lame shinra/atuk person with a spy in CLS shot the shinra hauler???
Because you know it happened like that, to cause all this on purpose to make yourselfs look innocent LMAO. Just be men and tell them you intended to attack Xetic all along....most people new it anyway
As for SE, the word spinless comes to mind....I expect nothing less of you and what you have become
Cross-post?
Anyway: Krapz I think, and it was checked with and authorised by a high ranking CLS official.
Both of course are SNRA/ATUK/SUPRM alts.
This is true, and how dare anyone else state otherwise.
And SE aren't spineless, you broke the treaty by firing first. Its a mutual defence pact - you shot first, you have to take the consequences.
Live with it. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |
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Shredder
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:30:00 -
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Two pilots were involved in the killing of my hauler, both of which are seemingly long term members of celestial horizons, and have been posting gibberish on the forums.
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Br0dY
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Br0dY on 05/04/2005 23:32:09
Originally by: KSUDruid Wow, The enslaver standing around telling everyone how xetic is now finished for the 374th time. It's like dejavu all over again.
Look at the map folks it's obvious who the agressors are here. ATUK and friends are just ****ed that we're playing by their rules. For god sakes, ya'll had the description for the longest time of "ATUK, We HAVE no Honor."
SE chose their side. Whatever...
Yeah ur right... on almost all accounts. U threatened with some sort of repricussions if the new settlers wouldn't have met with your demands, u started throwing some borders at us, u fired the first shot and u put yourself in this situation.
Xetic played a wild card, but one from their own ranks buggered up cause of poor comms within their structure. The only one to blame for the slaughter of Xetic is Xetic itself. ------------------------------------------------
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid Wow, The enslaver standing around telling everyone how xetic is now finished for the 374th time. It's like dejavu all over again.
Look at the map folks it's obvious who the agressors are here. ATUK and friends are just ****ed that we're playing by their rules. For god sakes, ya'll had the description for the longest time of "ATUK, We HAVE no Honor."
SE chose their side. Whatever...
Look dude its quite simple. You shoot our hauler we take your regions. Harsh but fair I think.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid Wow, The enslaver standing around telling everyone how xetic is now finished for the 374th time. It's like dejavu all over again.
Look at the map folks it's obvious who the agressors are here. ATUK and friends are just ****ed that we're playing by their rules. For god sakes, ya'll had the description for the longest time of "ATUK, We HAVE no Honor."
SE chose their side. Whatever...
Actually its closer to the 500th time if you count alts tbh.
And we are not the agressors... We are merely taking your space because you decided to be the agressors. If you hadn't shot, we would still be +5 to eachother. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |
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Yarrick
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:32:00 -
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I never ever ever expected to see this happen in my EVE lifetime, but now it has i cant wipe this smile off my face ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif) _____________________________________________
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Xenu
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown You shoot our hauler we take your regions. Harsh but fair I think.
sounds like a fair trade to me.
WTS: Immensia region.
minimum bid: 1bn buyout: 20bn
will be up for sale in about... 2 hours now. ________________________________________________________
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![Gilbert Drillerson Gilbert Drillerson](/images/people/img15.png)
Gilbert Drillerson
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver And we are not the agressors... We are merely taking your space because you decided to be the agressors. If you hadn't shot, we would still be +5 to eachother.[/quote
I for one is happy we are not +5 to shinra, that would just be... well wrong.... -10 to each other is much better ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
Good Luck, im hoping for a lot of fun before you all give up and abandon your alliance like the last time![ugh](/images/icon_bear.gif)
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TheUnkown
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:41:00 -
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is it just me or is that almost the same way the 1st CA war started with xetic ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
newho maybe yall could name your alliance CURSE Part DEUX ![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif) I WILL NOT LOSE...Always KILL...Never KILLED |
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:44:00 -
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im wondering if ill ever see the 2-3 xetics guys that posted that awful stupid post above on the battlefield.
saying that one of our alts shoots us to provoke war..
just one thing i want to add, this time it wont b only immensea, but i doubt the xetics care bout each other, also this time not..
stain didnt help the last times, whats lame, cause there was these " mutual defense pact" but i also can understand it, i also wouldnt help when a 4000 man alliance rarely gets a 10-20gang up to defend itself.
i guess itll take a week, to get the most important stations and so to break ur back. with the next patch ull also get the empire declarings, so you better unite and dont hide until another stupid freed ur moneymkaing, comfortable 0.0/ xetic tag.
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TheUnkown
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:45:00 -
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And on another note..didnt everyone call us carebears for napping everybody..and now we "start" a war now we all bad and ebil..hell maybe we can become the new CA and have everyone hate us
....man im gonna get flamed for calling us the new CA![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) I WILL NOT LOSE...Always KILL...Never KILLED |
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Grayson Burrows
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:48:00 -
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Less smack, more gun.
Thanks.
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:49:00 -
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wow, that was an incredibly easy way to resolve your inner split about the decision to side with xetic How 'political' of yew. ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
Like this sig? Check out my sig shoppe.. Zen Jakkaru - "Alexandra Belani (Most sexy terr |
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:55:00 -
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lol this is funny ... yall saying your not CA but you act exactly like CA did .
Remember how the war with xetic started ? Thats the exact same thing.
As for stain all you gonna do by not helping xetic is let them grow bigger so you can go down faster when your turn comes .
------------------------ <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: mk ultra lol this is funny ... yall saying your not CA but you act exactly like CA did .
Remember how the war with xetic started ? Thats the exact same thing.
As for stain all you gonna do by not helping xetic is let them grow bigger so you can go down faster when your turn comes .
Acting like the old CA hmm.
Lets review here.
One of our brave hauler pilots carrying food and water for the starving children of HLW goes down to heartless Xetic pilots and we are the bad guys![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
(some of that may be from my bull****ocopter) ________________________________________________________
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Valdruk
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:02:00 -
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Total newbie question here and I apoligize for getting in the middle. Can we see a copy of the killmail?
Just curious is all.
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Belian
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:03:00 -
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2005.04.05 17:42:00
Victim: Shredder Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Sigil Solar System: KLMT-W System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cinnander (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Electron Blaster I
there you go
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: mk ultra lol this is funny ... yall saying your not CA but you act exactly like CA did .
Wait, aren't you CA?
Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media |
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:06:00 -
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if xetic hadn't create SCA this would never had happened
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Valdruk
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Belian 2005.04.05 17:42:00
Victim: Shredder Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Sigil Solar System: KLMT-W System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cinnander (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Electron Blaster I
there you go
Thanks. Much appreciated.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
SE did not say they would be hostile to you, are you now going to make them hostile?
I assume by your words that you are.
Yet again more Xetic treachery
Treachery ? this coming from atuk ?? HAHAHAHAHA
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:12:00 -
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ROFL at least when NCA did this with PA they did quite a good job and got alot of real backing jeeze talk about amateurish or what![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) ----------------------------------------------
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:12:00 -
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Atuk has always been the bad guys :p
But this war started the same way it started back in old ca days .
That scorp that got shot by xetic and then xirt going all mad . CALL TO ARMS CALL TO ARMS :P
Funny how history repeats itself.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: mk ultra Atuk has always been the bad guys :p
But this war started the same way it started back in old ca days .
That scorp that got shot by xetic and then xirt going all mad . CALL TO ARMS CALL TO ARMS :P
Funny how history repeats itself.
i was tempted to yell that on TS, but i choose not to... ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif) _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people. |
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: mk ultra Atuk has always been the bad guys :p
But this war started the same way it started back in old ca days .
That scorp that got shot by xetic and then xirt going all mad . CALL TO ARMS CALL TO ARMS :P
Funny how history repeats itself.
actully most of us were already kinda ****ed when we got notice about the SCA and thier tries to controll us.
so in my eyes it was the creation of the SCA wich got xetic into war with us
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Acwron Pretty short sight if you ask me.
Well SE isn't what it used to be.
Well no one asked you. --------------------------
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: mk ultra Atuk has always been the bad guys :p
But this war started the same way it started back in old ca days .
That scorp that got shot by xetic and then xirt going all mad . CALL TO ARMS CALL TO ARMS :P
Funny how history repeats itself.
1.) ATUK weren't in CA when this happened.
2.) What is your point? Isn't this supposed to be how wars begin anyway? Pearl Harbor, anyone? Etc., etc.?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:21:00 -
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im just saying that to get your attention nebba :P
/sarcasm off/
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:31:00 -
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All that Shinra needs now is Koni's Celest war portrait with "apocolypse" substituted with "Horizon".
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kayosoni on 06/04/2005 00:37:44 Yea olyyy, I am sure killing maasu's scorp was a mistake as well.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Valdruk
Originally by: Belian 2005.04.05 17:42:00
Victim: Shredder Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Sigil Solar System: KLMT-W System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cinnander (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Electron Blaster I
there you go
Thanks. Much appreciated.
UH.... I must of missed something between eating my cocoa puffs and watching CNN.... Refresh my memory, why did CLS shoot the Shinra indy?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:45:00 -
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Yeah and the ATUK and friends had 130 pvpers standing by to avenge a loss of one measly hauler.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Liare on 06/04/2005 00:49:17 Edited by: Liare on 06/04/2005 00:48:55
Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Originally by: Valdruk
Originally by: Belian 2005.04.05 17:42:00
Victim: Shredder Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Sigil Solar System: KLMT-W System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cinnander (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Electron Blaster I
there you go
Thanks. Much appreciated.
UH.... I must of missed something between eating my cocoa puffs and watching CNN.... Refresh my memory, why did CLS shoot the Shinra indy?
no idea. the guys reasons vary from "i was told to do so from somebody up the command chain" to " it was a accident!" and "i fecked up"
so we are retaliating a bit.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Liare
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Vipeer : acturally, all the corps in our little "social group" are PVP based, is it such a surprise that we can mount a force on such short a notice ?
Being a viable PvP force requires it. If you let someone **** around in your territory for more than a few hours, they'll have instas, stations and offices everywhere.
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Edited by: Airia on 06/04/2005 00:59:20
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: vipeer Yeah and the ATUK and friends had 130 pvpers standing by to avenge a loss of one measly hauler.
Go tell the fairytales to your kindergarden mates.
I think the actual numbers are closer to 225 or so.. . Not standing by really ,but willing none-the-less. ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:00:00 -
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properly more if the various CEO's and directors yank the chains decently hard. _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people. |
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:03:00 -
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Lets be honest here... anyone else think atuk/shinra/supremacy moved to curse to start a war with xetic and other alliances nearby. All logic point this way... stain and xetic were good friends and allies and have had friendly fire problems alot in past and never started war over it mistakes. happen 1 friendly fire happens and atuk etc (cba to post all names you guys should really make alliance name) and you all jump for war quick! exploit the chance while we can lol.
Man just say it no one cares your all pvp corps after some fun we all pay 15bucks a month to enjoy the game right. When will someone start a big war and say **** it i was bored! we ran out of targets so were going to war with X alliance.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: MuthaTrucka on 06/04/2005 01:15:47
Originally by: vipeer Yeah and the ATUK and friends had 130 pvpers standing by to avenge a loss of one measly hauler.
Go tell the fairytales to your kindergarden mates.
School was out Eastern Time Zone and Central Time zone US :)
that would get you 130 Pvpers....... Personally judging from the ATUK Smack in Local School was definatly out...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:12:00 -
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Quote: Man just say it no one cares your all pvp corps after some fun we all pay 15bucks a month to enjoy the game right. When will someone start a big war and say **** it i was bored! we ran out of targets so were going to war with X alliance
The reason for this fight have been stated. Rest is all speculation.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:15:00 -
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Reminds me on the Evolution-FA thingie about some destroyed frig as excuse for a war ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Acwron on 06/04/2005 01:19:14
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Reminds me on the Evolution-FA thingie about some destroyed frig as excuse for a war ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
ATUK/Shinra never had the intention to attack XF and tried to solve the issue. Don't you read the forum Woody?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: arjun on 06/04/2005 01:21:11 xetic had no choice really to wage war on the new curse bunch. they would have found a reason to atack xetic anyway. they always do find reasons dont they?. stain you are so spineless. have a nice day.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Eleese Lets be honest here... anyone else think atuk/shinra/supremacy moved to curse to start a war with xetic and other alliances nearby. All logic point this way... stain and xetic were good friends and allies and have had friendly fire problems alot in past and never started war over it mistakes. happen 1 friendly fire happens and atuk etc (cba to post all names you guys should really make alliance name) and you all jump for war quick! exploit the chance while we can lol.
Man just say it no one cares your all pvp corps after some fun we all pay 15bucks a month to enjoy the game right. When will someone start a big war and say **** it i was bored! we ran out of targets so were going to war with X alliance.
Well, when you read the SCA post it might give you a better understanding of why...
1: We were initially not allowed to go into catch. Never mind the fact that to go into our home region, we NEED to go through catch.
2: We were told not to fire on foundation. Doing so would make us KOS. However, we have an active war against them. It could have been very well written. Do what we say and stop attacking people or else.
3: Xetic giveing them selves, and the rest of the CFA free travell through curse, which we claim. However, we are not allowed to enter any of the xetic regions, doing so makes us KOS.
4: Ordering us to withdraw support for the russians, which frankly they knew we would not comply with.
5: Respecting our soveranty, but more or less attempting to make our desissions for us, or be faced with a KOS standing.
6: Granting more or less every group who openily hostile to us free travell through there space.
More or less everything written in that doctrine, was to incite us into war anyways. It lays apon us conditions which were obviously unacceptable. IMO it was nothing more then an attempt to get us to screw up and fire first, thus making xetic look like the good guys.
Kinnda like these are the rules, which we know you'll never follow. But we wrote them down anyways, cause we don't want to look bad when the shooting starts.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Eleese Lets be honest here... anyone else think atuk/shinra/supremacy moved to curse to start a war with xetic and other alliances nearby. All logic point this way... stain and xetic were good friends and allies and have had friendly fire problems alot in past and never started war over it mistakes. happen 1 friendly fire happens and atuk etc (cba to post all names you guys should really make alliance name) and you all jump for war quick! exploit the chance while we can lol.
Man just say it no one cares your all pvp corps after some fun we all pay 15bucks a month to enjoy the game right. When will someone start a big war and say **** it i was bored! we ran out of targets so were going to war with X alliance.
Well, when you read the SCA post it might give you a better understanding of why...
1: We were initially not allowed to go into catch. Never mind the fact that to go into our home region, we NEED to go through catch.
2: We were told not to fire on foundation. Doing so would make us KOS. However, we have an active war against them. It could have been very well written. Do what we say and stop attacking people or else.
3: Xetic giveing them selves, and the rest of the CFA free travell through curse, which we claim. However, we are not allowed to enter any of the xetic regions, doing so makes us KOS.
4: Ordering us to withdraw support for the russians, which frankly they knew we would not comply with.
5: Respecting our soveranty, but more or less attempting to make our desissions for us, or be faced with a KOS standing.
6: Granting more or less every group who openily hostile to us free travell through there space.
More or less everything written in that doctrine, was to incite us into war anyways. It lays apon us conditions which were obviously unacceptable. IMO it was nothing more then an attempt to get us to screw up and fire first, thus making xetic look like the good guys.
Kinnda like these are the rules, which we know you'll never follow. But we wrote them down anyways, cause we don't want to look bad when the shooting starts.
So basically what you're saying is that you went in to claim space that they claimed and not have to work by their rules...
You knew that Red Alliance was at war with XF so of course they arent going to want you supporting them. The whole Catch problem was a oversight and CYVOK fixed it very quickly. The hauler getting shot problem could have been worked out like so many other accidental shootings have been worked out in the area. You really didnt want to sort it out so you didn't.
If you didnt want war, you could have tried working with the system. But you didnt want to. Like Eleese said, if you wanted to shoot Xetic then go ahead and say it. You're actions and responses on the forums have made it pretty clear to outside observers that you had no intention of peace.
Stain and Veritas, give me a break. Very spineless as others have said.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 02:07:00 -
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You shot ours, not we shoot you.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Grisbius
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Eleese Lets be honest here... anyone else think atuk/shinra/supremacy moved to curse to start a war with xetic and other alliances nearby. All logic point this way... stain and xetic were good friends and allies and have had friendly fire problems alot in past and never started war over it mistakes. happen 1 friendly fire happens and atuk etc (cba to post all names you guys should really make alliance name) and you all jump for war quick! exploit the chance while we can lol.
Man just say it no one cares your all pvp corps after some fun we all pay 15bucks a month to enjoy the game right. When will someone start a big war and say **** it i was bored! we ran out of targets so were going to war with X alliance.
Well, when you read the SCA post it might give you a better understanding of why...
1: We were initially not allowed to go into catch. Never mind the fact that to go into our home region, we NEED to go through catch.
2: We were told not to fire on foundation. Doing so would make us KOS. However, we have an active war against them. It could have been very well written. Do what we say and stop attacking people or else.
3: Xetic giveing them selves, and the rest of the CFA free travell through curse, which we claim. However, we are not allowed to enter any of the xetic regions, doing so makes us KOS.
4: Ordering us to withdraw support for the russians, which frankly they knew we would not comply with.
5: Respecting our soveranty, but more or less attempting to make our desissions for us, or be faced with a KOS standing.
6: Granting more or less every group who openily hostile to us free travell through there space.
More or less everything written in that doctrine, was to incite us into war anyways. It lays apon us conditions which were obviously unacceptable. IMO it was nothing more then an attempt to get us to screw up and fire first, thus making xetic look like the good guys.
Kinnda like these are the rules, which we know you'll never follow. But we wrote them down anyways, cause we don't want to look bad when the shooting starts.
So basically what you're saying is that you went in to claim space that they claimed and not have to work by their rules...
You knew that Red Alliance was at war with XF so of course they arent going to want you supporting them. The whole Catch problem was a oversight and CYVOK fixed it very quickly. The hauler getting shot problem could have been worked out like so many other accidental shootings have been worked out in the area. You really didnt want to sort it out so you didn't.
If you didnt want war, you could have tried working with the system. But you didnt want to. Like Eleese said, if you wanted to shoot Xetic then go ahead and say it. You're actions and responses on the forums have made it pretty clear to outside observers that you had no intention of peace.
Stain and Veritas, give me a break. Very spineless as others have said.
ALSO do not FORGET XETIC DECLARED WAR ON OUS, WAY BEFORE WE EVEN SHOT ONE OF THEM. did i mention they DECLARED WAR ON US BEFORE WE BROKE THEIR insane PROPOSAL to US????
hey did I mention that they DECLARED WAR ON US BEFORE WE EVEN SHOT A BULLET??????
ALSO thats a reason why SE isnt fighting for the traitors that is xetic.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 02:46:00 -
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So basically what you're saying is that you went in to claim space that they claimed and not have to work by their rules...
Nope not at all. Xetic makes no claim to the cruser region. And to be truthfull niether does whats left of the SCA. Which to be fair, noone, including the people in it, knew of its existance untill last night.
You knew that Red Alliance was at war with XF so of course they arent going to want you supporting them And xetic support foundation, who we have had an active war with. Didn't see us shooting them because of it.
The whole Catch problem was a oversight and CYVOK fixed it very quickly. Fair enough. Though we must not forget them giveing them selves free access to our space with out our consent, while restricting our access to theres. Remember, they can go in ours, but if we do the same then we have commited an act of agression.
The hauler getting shot problem could have been worked out like so many other accidental shootings have been worked out in the area. This wasn't the first incident of xetic shooting. I now of one first hand were a xetic member was shooting us last night, before the formation of the SCA. Also, I am under the impression that the pilot attack shinra did it under the orders of 'upper managment'
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Edited by: Calanen on 06/04/2005 02:47:24 fair-weathĄer (fŌr'wĕTH'ər) adj. 1. Suitable or used only during fair weather: fair-weather hiking gear. 2. Present and dependable only in good times: fair-weather friends
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Posted - 2005.04.06 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
Well actually this is what happened. Olyyyyy was wrong about a lot of things, then, while trying to plan for something, something else happened, but as usual, other things happened, so he said that the things that happened were exactly what he had originally planned for, of course, and then, he made some posts, and was wrong. And now, there will be a nice war, and I think the XF will lose it. Again. Supremacy Keepin it Real |
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Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
wait your seriously basing your whole arguement on nothing but an assumption, something based nothing more on than an idea created in ones own head w/o any proof or anything to prove it be? c'mon plz olyyyy step aside and look at how stupid what your saying is.
fact of the matter is no matter what way u spin it is a indy was shot down, the assailent a xetic member. not even by a new member of the alliance who might not have standings set but cls, cls! one of the head corps. the ceo of that corp just today listed them as +5. why i ask you would that member disregard the lil' blue standing mark next to that indy and open fire?
with what proof do you have that they were planning this war? all FACTS(something everything your saying has none to stand by) point to the fact that it was xetic planning this war. if they planned this war, why wouldnt they make the first hostile action instead of the "victim" firing/downing the first shot/ship.
only thing more amusing than the alliance u stand by is the crap u spew from your mouth, facts make a case not assumptions w/nothing to back them up.
(p.s. ca lost first war bahahaha /me takes look at kill ratio:)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 03:43:00 -
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atuk makes me lawl >.<
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Posted - 2005.04.06 03:46:00 -
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Posted - 2005.04.06 03:47:00 -
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Owned
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:11:00 -
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the straight ****:
SE was ****ed that XETIC/CYVOK included them into some coalition with oddball rules about who can go where and who can join what and when, without even informing them they were included.
Then the indy kill was a good reason to jump off a ship they had never intended in getting on.
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All the fun starts when i leave ![Evil or Very Mad](/images/icon_evil.gif) __________ HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:23:00 -
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seriously, who the **** cares who started it?
We're it me leading the coalition, I just woulda war dec'ed Xetic in it's entirety and procedded on a campaign of destruction until everything I wanted was mine.
It's not like they actually fight back...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:30:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer XETIC:
ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US.
...or, you could sound like an idiot and get it wrong. Why don't you ruin the original phrase by destroying the whole point of its popularity...Here's a fix for you:
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:42:00 -
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Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42
Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
Let me give you some facts
1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made.
2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us.
3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so.
4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us .
5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile
6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:48:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Scythmar
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer XETIC:
ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US.
...or, you could sound like an idiot and get it wrong. Why don't you ruin the original phrase by destroying the whole point of its popularity...Here's a fix for you:
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.
Yes, it's my own individual spice I added to that line. Thanks for looking like an idiot and pointing out my extra S.
S: better than Xetic, certainly the best letter of them all!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:08:00 -
[108]
Originally by: olyyyyy
the council putted some barriers on my way
I would have used a sand wedge tbh.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:33:00 -
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bah - who did what first???
from someone (SHINRA) elses post earlier: 2005.04.05 17:42:00
Victim: Shredder Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Sigil Solar System: KLMT-W System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cinnander (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Electron Blaster I
vs um this one from www.eve-kills.com
2005.04.04 00:05:00
Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown
Now one of you pvp types posted that on a kill board.
so um You figure out who was um accidentally shooting what and podding who first and posting their glamerous kills on the killboards.
Regards
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:36:00 -
[110]
Originally by: HDCamper Itsim bah - who did what first???
from someone (SHINRA) elses post earlier: 2005.04.05 17:42:00
Victim: Shredder Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Sigil Solar System: KLMT-W System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cinnander (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Electron Blaster I
vs um this one from www.eve-kills.com
2005.04.04 00:05:00
Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown
Now one of you pvp types posted that on a kill board.
so um You figure out who was um accidentally shooting what and podding who first and posting their glamerous kills on the killboards.
Regards
That's a sad story.
Not only is that a minmatar shuttle, but additionally, no communications were initiated to have this kill (if it is even real) rectified.
Here's a tissue though. /me hands HDCamper Itsim a tissue.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:41:00 -
[111]
Originally by: LadyScarlet
Let me give you some facts
1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made.
2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us.
3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so.
4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us .
5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile
6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY
word to your mother, LadyScarlet for the diplownage.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:55:00 -
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One wonders what olyys definition of friendship or partnership is....
Considering his post in the light of the pre-war relationship from atuk-xetic he uses phrases like "making things difficult for you" and "suspecting you" and "against you".
Seems your mind was full of unfriendlyness, treachery and misstrust. Sadly that spoiled a relationship which had its roots in the common fight against CA and in addition now spoiled the longstanding "mutual defence pact" with SE aswell.
Well done in driving your own nation into an unneeded war, may the widows and orphans thank you ;)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: juduzz ROFL at least when NCA did this with PA they did quite a good job and got alot of real backing jeeze talk about amateurish or what![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 06:56:00 -
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if its a tech 2 tissue I'd take it. Nebber, wouldn't the hauler have gotten sorted too had someone followed what you said? or maybe it woouldn't, heh.
as for anything sarcastic and loaded with flame aimed at this thread - all i really see here is many posts from the same camp trying to justfiy whatever it is you want to justify on a post made by SE that seems to have mostly been hijacked at this point. those who respond most must be the strongest eh.
2 days surely shouldnt have been to long to chat about the loss of a shuttle or even a hauler. perhaps there was never gonna be a convo or perhaps there was going to be time taken to try and get as many facts as possible. oh but wait pvp corps such as yourself cant wait for all that type of rhetoric im sure that shuttle was about to get away anyway - lol.
seems like the facts are SHINRA shot at my corpmate before this so called hauler kill so whatever is said from whichever spokesman about preemptive whatever is someones wasted efforts of typing up justification for someone to hijack a thread eventually and mislead whatever facts there are.
im not speaking for the XETIC alliance, but if you have random thoughts again about giving me a tissue do it in evemail to me, as it was I was lucky enough to read this post, anyway.
not even going to train forum warrior to level 1, and heres hoping to its eventual nerf.
regards
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:01:00 -
[115]
Originally by: HDCamper Itsim
not even going to train forum warrior to level 1, and heres hoping to its eventual nerf.
regards
Careful, nebba might challenge you to a dis battle.. or a test of four-square endurance. Let's not forget, nebba also builds the best sandcastles.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:08:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Nev Amati
Originally by: HDCamper Itsim
not even going to train forum warrior to level 1, and heres hoping to its eventual nerf.
regards
Careful, nebba might challenge you to a dis battle.. or a test of four-square endurance. Let's not forget, nebba also builds the best sandcastles.
I heard that Nebba loves convos from ppl talking about everyday stuff like mining and npc hunting ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:19:00 -
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The first time I heard of ATUK was roughly 18 months ago.
I was on Teamspeak with a Pilot I had known since befre Eve. He was NPC hunting in CFS space as he did in quiet periods as a serving CFS Navy pilot.
2 Pilots jumped into the belt he was in, he asked over TS who they were, don't know came the reply. I will always remember the surprise in his voice as he announced they were shooting at him.
He got away and reported the incident to the CFS command, CFS contacted ATUK and were told that their pilots fired because the pilot was stealing from their Can.
CFS like the wet lettuce they were accepted the word of these craven cowards over the word of a serving Navy officer and attempted to gloss over the incident.
Since that day ATUK have gone on to lie their way through Eve time and again they use deciet to start wars and claim to be the innocent party.
I could tell you about similiar incidents involving Shinra but this post is to long already.
When Rubra first attacked Shinra in Period Basis we were called turncoats by the Shinra forces for siding with our enemy of over 12 months Fountain.
Rubra are no turncoats we fight what we see as the evil in Eve, most of FA's worst smack talking low lifes had left FA for..... ATUK. Our reason for fighting them had pretty much left with them. and had past on to ATUK.
Although I will be flammed for posting this I say it anyway for the truth has to be told, there is a new alliance of evil in Curse and Rubra will as always stand against evil within eve.
"Even though large tracts of Eve and many old and famous Regions have fallen or may fall into the grip of ATUK and all the odious apparatus of their evil rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Detriod, we shall fight on the Stargates and Astriod belts, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in Curse, we shall defend our space, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight at the Stations, we shall fight on the planets, we shall fight in Empire and in Catch, we shall fight in Immensea; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this space or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the stargate, armed and guarded by the Imperium Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."
ATUK wanted a fight, well you got one.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:29:00 -
[118]
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 06/04/2005 07:29:18 sorry pug i fell asleep after the first line can you condense it down a little. from what i gather from your long winded post, your a little miffed your corp isnt recognised as a decent pvp one and you think by dying hard to us it will bring you up in peoples estimations? STAN
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:43:00 -
[119]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 06/04/2005 07:29:18 sorry pug i fell asleep after the first line can you condense it down a little. from what i gather from your long winded post, your a little miffed your corp isnt recognised as a decent pvp one and you think by dying hard to us it will bring you up in peoples estimations?
Flame number 1
I had money on it being either you or The Lung Thanks Stan.
Oh and and maybe I better not mention the message you sent me congratulating Rubra on being a great PvP force you even signed it on behalf of Xanadu.
If you really believe Rubra are so weak why bother replying at all?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:45:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash The first time I heard of ATUK was roughly 18 months ago.
I was on Teamspeak with a Pilot I had known since befre Eve. He was NPC hunting in CFS space as he did in quiet periods as a serving CFS Navy pilot.
2 Pilots jumped into the belt he was in, he asked over TS who they were, don't know came the reply. I will always remember the surprise in his voice as he announced they were shooting at him.
He got away and reported the incident to the CFS command, CFS contacted ATUK and were told that their pilots fired because the pilot was stealing from their Can.
CFS like the wet lettuce they were accepted the word of these craven cowards over the word of a serving Navy officer and attempted to gloss over the incident.
Since that day ATUK have gone on to lie their way through Eve time and again they use deciet to start wars and claim to be the innocent party.
I could tell you about similiar incidents involving Shinra but this post is to long already.
When Rubra first attacked Shinra in Period Basis we were called turncoats by the Shinra forces for siding with our enemy of over 12 months Fountain.
Rubra are no turncoats we fight what we see as the evil in Eve, most of FA's worst smack talking low lifes had left FA for..... ATUK. Our reason for fighting them had pretty much left with them. and had past on to ATUK.
Although I will be flammed for posting this I say it anyway for the truth has to be told, there is a new alliance of evil in Curse and Rubra will as always stand against evil within eve.
"Even though large tracts of Eve and many old and famous Regions have fallen or may fall into the grip of ATUK and all the odious apparatus of their evil rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Detriod, we shall fight on the Stargates and Astriod belts, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in Curse, we shall defend our space, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight at the Stations, we shall fight on the planets, we shall fight in Empire and in Catch, we shall fight in Immensea; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this space or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the stargate, armed and guarded by the Imperium Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."
ATUK wanted a fight, well you got one.
Hiya Puggy,
So in summary you trust ATUK as far as you can throw a Veld roid and want to kill all there babies on account of it.
ATUK are Curse now for want of a better name and everybody must hate Curse. SE bored and now have a Curse they can get on with (least thats what there told for now ;) and so are goona go kill XETIC as they dropped a can of trit near a gate cluttering up there pristean space, least seemed best reason at the time.
CCP realy needs to brand some popcorn for such long threads ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:46:00 -
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To briefly return to the original subject; wonder what Stain Empire plans really were. The SCA coalition was clearly formed against that Cursed Nation thing (in way like NATO was formed against SU, without plans to attack).
Now that the assumed hostiles indeed turn to be real enemies, SE bails. So, why were they forming the SCA in the first place? Evil scheme by some leaders, which wasn't afterwards agreed by members? Or perhaps they just hoping that while XF and CN thing fight each other, they will be left in peace to prosper? Joined just to get backup in case ATUK turned against SE?
Kinda hoping that some formal SE repsentative could give some real explanation of the events and reasons, which would not leave big stain on their honor.
Using some hauler as excuse looks stupid, no matter how loudly and often it's repeated (and, if Stain makes those further investigations, they might notice it was Shinra who started all this by shooting the said precious shuttle..)
-Lasse
Heikki of Foundation
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:47:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Svabbi k
Originally by: Nev Amati
Originally by: HDCamper Itsim
not even going to train forum warrior to level 1, and heres hoping to its eventual nerf.
regards
Careful, nebba might challenge you to a dis battle.. or a test of four-square endurance. Let's not forget, nebba also builds the best sandcastles.
I heard that Nebba loves convos from ppl talking about everyday stuff like mining and npc hunting ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
I have had some questions about agent running...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:48:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 06/04/2005 07:29:18 sorry pug i fell asleep after the first line can you condense it down a little. from what i gather from your long winded post, your a little miffed your corp isnt recognised as a decent pvp one and you think by dying hard to us it will bring you up in peoples estimations?
Flame number 1
I had money on it being either you or The Lung Thanks Stan.
Oh and and maybe I better not mention the message you sent me congratulating Rubra on being a great PvP force you even signed it on behalf of Xanadu.
If you really believe Rubra are so weak why bother replying at all?
You know what, I'd almost think of taking you serious if your character didnt look like such a *****.
Then again, after meeting you on the field of battle we know where your skills are at.![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:50:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Heikki To briefly return to the original subject; wonder what Stain Empire plans really were. The SCA coalition was clearly formed against that Cursed Nation thing (in way like NATO was formed against SU, without plans to attack).
Apparently you're political henchmen failed to inform most of SE of the plan.![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 07:59:00 -
[125]
I would like to comment but i seem to get banned from formns when i say the truth about Atuk or Shinra and i dont even Curse swear,,,, and they do
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:03:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Calanen Edited by: Calanen on 06/04/2005 02:47:24 fair-weathĄer (fŌr'wĕTH'ər) adj. 1. Suitable or used only during fair weather: fair-weather hiking gear. 2. Present and dependable only in good times: 3. Active until regional defense becomes necessary. Will then leave alliance and mine veldspar until hostilities have ended (see: Xetic Alliance, carebear) fair-weather friends
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:05:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Darkrydar
You know what, I'd almost think of taking you serious if your character didnt look like such a *****.
Then again, after meeting you on the field of battle we know where your skills are at.![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
There is nothing like Constructive critisim... and this is nothing like constructive critisim.
This typical of Shinra/ATUK forum warriors mass flame anyone who speaks out against them.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:10:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: Darkrydar
You know what, I'd almost think of taking you serious if your character didnt look like such a *****.
Then again, after meeting you on the field of battle we know where your skills are at.![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
There is nothing like Constructive critisim... and this is nothing like constructive critisim.
This typical of Shinra/ATUK forum warriors mass flame anyone who speaks out against them.
He's wearing eye shadow... forum queen maybe? Forum princess?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:14:00 -
[129]
hmph ![ugh](/images/icon_ugh.gif)
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:17:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Eleese Lets be honest here... anyone else think atuk/shinra/supremacy moved to curse to start a war with xetic and other alliances nearby. All logic point this way... stain and xetic were good friends and allies and have had friendly fire problems alot in past and never started war over it mistakes. happen 1 friendly fire happens and atuk etc (cba to post all names you guys should really make alliance name) and you all jump for war quick! exploit the chance while we can lol.
Man just say it no one cares your all pvp corps after some fun we all pay 15bucks a month to enjoy the game right. When will someone start a big war and say **** it i was bored! we ran out of targets so were going to war with X alliance.
Ive seen more then several reports of friendly fire incidents involving Xetic and Shinra. Even before the Coaltion. I just guess with so many pvp-eager people this was the know drop...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:22:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson Sweet, more targets for us ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
SE did not say they would be hostile to you, are you now going to make them hostile?
I assume by your words that you are.
Yet again more Xetic treachery
WTS: Reading comprehension for dummies
Features among other things:
"When fewer pilots can engage the same blob as before, it leaves more targets"
WTS: Reading comprehension for advanced dummies
Special chapter of Amthrianus's postings, including examples of poor reading
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:24:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Heikki To briefly return to the original subject; wonder what Stain Empire plans really were. The SCA coalition was clearly formed against that Cursed Nation thing (in way like NATO was formed against SU, without plans to attack).
Now that the assumed hostiles indeed turn to be real enemies, SE bails. So, why were they forming the SCA in the first place? Evil scheme by some leaders, which wasn't afterwards agreed by members? Or perhaps they just hoping that while XF and CN thing fight each other, they will be left in peace to prosper? Joined just to get backup in case ATUK turned against SE?
Kinda hoping that some formal SE repsentative could give some real explanation of the events and reasons, which would not leave big stain on their honor.
Using some hauler as excuse looks stupid, no matter how loudly and often it's repeated (and, if Stain makes those further investigations, they might notice it was Shinra who started all this by shooting the said precious shuttle..)
-Lasse
Heikki of Foundation
Nato is a defencepact as well. if one party is the agressor and gets shot back, Nato will not defend the agressor.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Nato is a defencepact as well. if one party is the agressor and gets shot back, Nato will not defend the agressor.
You have to win first to write the history ;)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Andromedus on 06/04/2005 08:30:05 this forum is on fire ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
how much for that Reading comprehension for dummies ?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Nadalia on 06/04/2005 08:31:48
Originally by: AvanCade Nato is a defencepact as well. if one party is the agressor and gets shot back, Nato will not defend the agressor.
Great analogy. Also false.
The whole Serbia thing was a NATO operation. Serbia never fired on any NATO country.
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Edited by: pringprang on 06/04/2005 08:34:42
Quote: Avancade said: Ive seen more then several reports of friendly fire incidents involving Xetic and Shinra. Even before the Coaltion. I just guess with so many pvp-eager people this was the know drop...
I guess it couldn't be the fact that there's over 4000 of us and maybe, just maybe, all 4000 of us havn't finished slogging through this crap on the forums to figure out whats really going on. So a hauler got shot down. So what? Xetic endures friendly fire incidents every day just like every other alliance i'm sure, especially since the last few months have been completely ****** up politically.
Perhaps its because I don't have a huge forum ego but it all seems like a couple of misunderstandings to me. It's barely been 48 hours since most of EVE found out that you guys were going to form a coalition and its been barely 24 hours since you released standings towards everyone yet you expect every single person flying around in eve to instantly know whats going on? If you were looking for a fight then I guess this is it and although i won't wish you good luck I do hope you have fun. On the other hand if you're as bewildered as I am then I hope this **** gets sorted out. Regardless, everyone on both sides need to get off their soap boxes and quit preaching.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:34:00 -
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I love all these arguments over the moral high ground
Bottom line is there is gonna be a BIG FAT FUN WAR - w00t!!!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: pringprang
Perhaps its because I don't have a huge forum ego but it all seems like a couple of misunderstandings to me.
The only misunderstanding is to think that they didn't mean for this to happen. Maybe not today. Maybe not this week. But soon. ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:48:00 -
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In all honesty, I think XF would've helped SE if the tables had been turned.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert In all honesty, I think XF would've helped SE if the tables had been turned.
That much is true
SE is not what it was without it's backbone corporations who have left.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Nev Amati
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: Darkrydar
You know what, I'd almost think of taking you serious if your character didnt look like such a *****.
Then again, after meeting you on the field of battle we know where your skills are at.![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
There is nothing like Constructive critisim... and this is nothing like constructive critisim.
This typical of Shinra/ATUK forum warriors mass flame anyone who speaks out against them.
He's wearing eye shadow... forum queen maybe? Forum princess?
Look my pic up in gme nub. I paid to have it replaced over a year ago. But, it seems ccp's about as good as your politicians.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: Darkrydar
You know what, I'd almost think of taking you serious if your character didnt look like such a *****.
Then again, after meeting you on the field of battle we know where your skills are at.![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
There is nothing like Constructive critisim... and this is nothing like constructive critisim.
This typical of Shinra/ATUK forum warriors mass flame anyone who speaks out against them.
We gain/give respect to those who deserve it. You and your FA buddies cowerdice and living like the rats you are ahs earned you done. You are far from a good opponent, you are more akin to Burn Eden. One can only wait for CCP to implement the 75 safespot scanning.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nev Amati
Originally by: AvanCade Nato is a defencepact as well. if one party is the agressor and gets shot back, Nato will not defend the agressor.
You have to win first to write the history ;)
How is the PBL doing?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
The only misunderstanding is to think that they didn't mean for this to happen. Maybe not today. Maybe not this week. But soon.
Didnt mean for this to happen? did you read CYVOK's post? claiming that Xetic owned all of the eastern side of the map almost... That SCA could fly anywhere they wanted, but we were not allowed into there space?!
It also didnt help your cause telling Red Alliance what they could and could not do =/
You create a new coalition and NAP everyone it seems, then throw this in our faces expecting us to take it becuase you are now the BIG Mighty Xetic with SCA to back you up... I can tell you it more than ****ed off some of our lads, but it was YOU who declaired the war against us first?
You signed your own death, im sorry but no mercy for the ignorant
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:00:00 -
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This thread is funny. So correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking this is what happened
1. Buncha guys move into Curse
2.CYVOK goes on a power trip and puts forth his declaration, which pretty much says what everyone in eve can and cannot do. To top it off it is written as a piece of arrogant self-imporatant bullcrap.
3. Shoot one hauler. the guys in Curse dont repond
4. shoot hauler #2, guys in Curse go ape****, especially with all teh lying on teh forums.
5. XETIC try to drag in their SCA buddies, most of whom havent even heard of SCA
6. Guys in Curse are really miffed now, and attack
7. XETIC's buddies get miffed at XF trying to order them around and bail on them.
8. XF now runs around calling everyone traitors.
END OF SUMMARY
So did I get it right??
PS. To the guy about the target thing, the number of targets don't increase if you have less people in your gang.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:10:00 -
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first of all i am speaking for myself and NOT SE. i personally don't agree there should be a war over 1 ship or even a couple that could have been replaced easily. but, as you can tell thru the posts it is a wanted war by shinra. i hope the best for Xetic and know your Federation will recover from these dark times. again, i speak for myself. GL Xetic [CRYTEK] STAIN EMPIRE
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: hezitationkillz
Didnt mean for this to happen? did you read CYVOK's post? claiming that Xetic owned all of the eastern side of the map almost... That SCA could fly anywhere they wanted, but we were not allowed into there space?!
I read it. Did you read the rest of his posts? Or the ones of others involved?
Mkay...so moving into allied-controlled Curse (one of which was ATUK, if you care to remember) wasn't sabre rattling aimed at Xetic? Of course Xetic had to lay down some restrictions...if we had just rolled over and said 'woof' like good carebears, we'd be in the same situation anyway.
But if those corps in Curse right ever wanted a peace with Xetic, this could have been settled by now. That's why I'm saying they always meant for this to happen. Now, there is no talking to anyone. Sure, there was an incident. But as many have pointed out, good friends are quick to resolve these, and those who have no desire for war usually cool off quite quickly.
Quote: You signed your own death, im sorry but no mercy for the ignorant
There you go again. It's only this attitude that is bringing us to war right now. Mind you, Xetic is not about to ask for mercy... ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two So did I get it right??
No
None of it
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Kleptress on 06/04/2005 09:19:49
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Joshua Calvert In all honesty, I think XF would've helped SE if the tables had been turned.
That much is true
SE is not what it was without it's backbone corporations who have left.
It's quite clear it never had a backbone in the first place. It was obviously a go with the flow 'alliance' - hence the split and its current stance
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Darken Two So did I get it right??
No
None of it
Care to explain?? Or are you just going to say NO to everything.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Darken Two So did I get it right??
No
None of it
Care to explain?? Or are you just going to say NO to everything.
Read the thread and then make a second attempt.
Just a couple pointers:
SHINRA acknowledge *several* friendly fire incidents on XETIC members recently
A XETIC shuttle was killed in HED-GP by SHINRA
A SHINRA hauler was killed in Curse by XETIC many hours later.
Did XETIC scream war *every time* there was a friendly-fire incident?
No
Did Shinra?
Yes
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
Originally by: hezitationkillz
Didnt mean for this to happen? did you read CYVOK's post? claiming that Xetic owned all of the eastern side of the map almost... That SCA could fly anywhere they wanted, but we were not allowed into there space?!
I read it. Did you read the rest of his posts? Or the ones of others involved?
Mkay...so moving into allied-controlled Curse (one of which was ATUK, if you care to remember) wasn't sabre rattling aimed at Xetic? Of course Xetic had to lay down some restrictions...if we had just rolled over and said 'woof' like good carebears, we'd be in the same situation anyway.
But if those corps in Curse right ever wanted a peace with Xetic, this could have been settled by now. That's why I'm saying they always meant for this to happen. Now, there is no talking to anyone. Sure, there was an incident. But as many have pointed out, good friends are quick to resolve these, and those who have no desire for war usually cool off quite quickly.
Quote: You signed your own death, im sorry but no mercy for the ignorant
There you go again. It's only this attitude that is bringing us to war right now. Mind you, Xetic is not about to ask for mercy...
Well whats all this about Xetic must lay down some restrictions? You down control Curse, nor do you control us so what you should have done is either closed your boarders or allowed us into your space too.
Claiming that you own the space that WE patrol is a bit of a joke, like going into a shop, stealing something and saying that it is actually yours because you own the store... and then like xetic, **** off the shopkeeper ![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif)
And if YOU remember, we were settling, you started to engage us... and you declaired the war so wtf are you on about?
Dont know about you but if we attacked a friend and then declaired war i think they would laugh it off while being shot at... Now go back to your cupboard where you can talk rubbish all you like =/
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Darken Two So did I get it right??
No
None of it
Care to explain?? Or are you just going to say NO to everything.
Read the thread and then make a second attempt.
Just a couple pointers:
SHINRA acknowledge *several* friendly fire incidents on XETIC members recently
A XETIC shuttle was killed in HED-GP by SHINRA
A SHINRA hauler was killed in Curse by XETIC many hours later.
Did XETIC scream war *every time* there was a friendly-fire incident?
No
Did Shinra?
Yes
The only problem with the whole thing is that is that CYVOK declared a truce between al parties and then your own pilot popped their indy like 2 hrs later. Yea friendly fire happens all the time sure , but the problem here is that it happened so soon afetr CYVOK decreed that the rest of eve should do his bidding. And unbelievably enoguh, the guys in Curse didnt make a fuss about it. You arrogance will be your downfall.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Look my pic up in gme nub. I paid to have it replaced over a year ago. But, it seems ccp's about as good as your politicians.
You can change your avatar but you can never change the fact that you madame are an idiot.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: hezitationkillz You down control Curse, nor do you control us so what you should have done is either closed your boarders or allowed us into your space too.
Claiming that you own the space that WE patrol is a bit of a joke,
Good joke, considering that's not what I said at all (perhaps you need glasses, or a few hours of reading comprehension training?).
It's our back yard. We are threatened by this move, because we know that the corporations moving in have no desire to mine, hunt or coexist peacefully in any way. Up until recently, it was claimed by Stain and ATUK, who we considered close allies. Now, suddenly, it's not. How could we not react to that in some way? Even better...what would you have done in our position?
Of course, I still maintain that Xetic doesn't want this war. But if we must, we will fight it. ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Darken Two So did I get it right??
No
None of it
Care to explain?? Or are you just going to say NO to everything.
Read the thread and then make a second attempt.
Just a couple pointers:
SHINRA acknowledge *several* friendly fire incidents on XETIC members recently
A XETIC shuttle was killed in HED-GP by SHINRA
A SHINRA hauler was killed in Curse by XETIC many hours later.
Did XETIC scream war *every time* there was a friendly-fire incident?
No
Did Shinra?
Yes
Shows what you know. We dealt with months of DDC aggression towards our pilots. Your weak leadership never did a thing about it. But, you wouldnt know as we never flamed them on the foums about it. We did post on your forums about it. Understand me?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:38:00 -
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hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE) [CRYTEK] STAIN EMPIRE
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:41:00 -
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Are we seriously trying to kid ourselves that Shinra et al didn't want to use any old excuse (1, 2 whatever haulers) to go to war with Xetic.
They WANT TO KILL XETIC THATS THE KIND OF THING THEY PLAY EVE FOR - and fair play to them each to their own.
Why not just say "Xetic killed a hauler or 2 of ours we hate em anyway lets try and wipe em out". The fact that some feel the need to justify it as a morally correct crusade is a tad bewildering ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
There was never any intention to kill XETIC really. Sure supremacy may of talked about it because XETIC have been for a long time supremacys main enemies. But the idea was to crush imperium, fountain and g.
It's just a nice reminder of how clueless XETIC are when it comes to this stuff. If you knew anything of what was going on you would know that ATUK point blank refused to do anything against XETIC because it would mean them sacraficing the nice deal they have going on in curse.
The reason you're in the sh1t is simple, you overreacted and started bossing people around and giving us OUR borders.
Don't you find that a little ridiculous? That an alliance that owes a great deal to one corp for their involvement in the CA war is telling that corp and its new friends where they can live?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
It's our back yard. We are threatened by this move, because we know that the corporations moving in have no desire to mine, hunt or coexist peacefully in any way. Up until recently, it was claimed by Stain and ATUK, who we considered close allies. Now, suddenly, it's not. How could we not react to that in some way? Even better...what would you have done in our position?
Of course, I still maintain that Xetic doesn't want this war. But if we must, we will fight it.
You felt threatened and so you fired first? i see... and then declair war on us First!
Whats all this about Stain? i dont see us shooting them, just Xetic. And it was Xetic who actually tried to drag SE into this mess but forming an alliance and then the first chance they have attacking us...
You really are a two faced moron
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:55:00 -
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Ok , back to main topic.
XF = NATO Ladies in Distress = ?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
lmao how can an organisation that doesn't exist lose a war? The CA disbanded and spread out. With your logic it would mean that BoB were defeated by PA when they left the north lol.
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Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert In all honesty, I think XF would've helped SE if the tables had been turned.
Like you help them vs Rome and co? Or even when CA around you didnt help very much.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Eli Even Are we seriously trying to kid ourselves that Shinra et al didn't want to use any old excuse (1, 2 whatever haulers) to go to war with Xetic.
They WANT TO KILL XETIC THATS THE KIND OF THING THEY PLAY EVE FOR - and fair play to them each to their own.
Why not just say "Xetic killed a hauler or 2 of ours we hate em anyway lets try and wipe em out". The fact that some feel the need to justify it as a morally correct crusade is a tad bewildering ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Are you spinning the truth just to suit yourself .
The fact of the matter is, CLS shot and killed a Shinra hauler that was blue (as in friendly) on the scanner. No matter what Shinra feels towards XETIC or how many of them they want to kill, you cannot change that fact! You can come up with all the speculations and ideas and try to justify the reasons for the destruction of the ship, but you will never ever be able to change the fact that XETIC shot first at a +5 pilot.
This people, is exactly the kind of XETIC propaganda that turns the public towards the 'ebil corporations' that everyone wants to hate instead of looking at the facts and make up your own mind.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership"
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership"
Actually Shinra MORON, it was offered by Krapz, in the big 17 page thread. Please feel free to continue to show your stupidity.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
See, its just this mind-numbing stupidy that ****es a lot of ppl off. The haul was a mere cog in the wheel. Combine that wioth olyyyyyyyyy's posts and Cvyok'sq rubbish and you got a war.
Only the simplest of minds cant follow this.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:10:00 -
[170]
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership"
For the ignorant:
Originally by: Krapz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey guys, my bad. I'll pay for the hauler, somehow got the wires crossed there. Thought we could kill you guys, guess I was wrong. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:13:00 -
[171]
Originally by: absentia
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership"
Actually Shinra MORON, it was offered by Krapz, in the big 17 page thread. Please feel free to continue to show your stupidity.
oh yes i play my game on the fourm on page 17 of that thread not in game where we got the real response numb nut
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:14:00 -
[172]
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: absentia
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership"
Actually Shinra MORON, it was offered by Krapz, in the big 17 page thread. Please feel free to continue to show your stupidity.
oh yes i play my game on the fourm on page 17 of that thread not in game where we got the real response numb nut
If you actually play the game then why are you posting here then? Log on an play the game and let the professional forum *****s do the rest. LMAO. How can Shinra have such stupid members willing to get hooked like a fish?![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:16:00 -
[173]
It is down time :)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:16:00 -
[174]
Originally by: absentia
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: absentia
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership"
Actually Shinra MORON, it was offered by Krapz, in the big 17 page thread. Please feel free to continue to show your stupidity.
oh yes i play my game on the fourm on page 17 of that thread not in game where we got the real response numb nut
If you actually play the game then why are you posting here then? Log on an play the game and let the professional forum *****s do the rest. LMAO. How can Shinra have such stupid members willing to get hooked like a fish?![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif)
its downtime but you wouldn't know that
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:19:00 -
[175]
Everyone take a deep breath and remember it's a game.
It's not like anyone just stole your car or anything...![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
www.hadean.org
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:21:00 -
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SE=beaten down wussies
Originally by: Graelyn
"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"
Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:24:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Gungankllr Everyone take a deep breath and remember it's a game.
It's not like anyone just stole your car or anything...![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
DUDE WHERES MY CAR?!!?!
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Lord Drax
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:26:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Xetic initiated hostilities?
Yes they did
Originally by: cordy Time has come upon us Xetic federation calls the SCA Together to fight the new coalition
Game on and good fights
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:27:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Malken SE=beaten down wussies
and i guess its all because you all by your lonesome,with one arm behind your back... hit us with a nerf bat till we ran away. o'please you FLAMER
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:30:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer XETIC:
ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US.
Come get em.....
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absentia
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:54:00 -
[181]
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: absentia
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: absentia
Originally by: The Ratfink
Originally by: Harridan's Hauling
Originally by: Lord Drax
Originally by: HellsRazor hmmm.. im just curious but a couple agree Xetic would have backed SE if roles would be reversed, but when Celestial Apoc went to war with SE did Xetic also go to war officially? i work alot and could be wrong. i am not trying to flame again i personally like Xetic and wish them the best. it is always a pleasure to fight along side Xetic. (this is only my views NOT SE)
The main difference is that when Celes and SE fought Celes were the aggressors, and your mutual DEFENCE pact came into effect. This time Xetic are the ones who initiated hostilities. Now, if WE were the ones who declared war on the forums i'd fully expect SE to side with xetic. However SE also have a NAP with all the people in our coalition - therefore if they sided with xetic in this then technically they would have broken their nap with us.
I think that's about right anyway ;)
Xetic initiated hostilities? A Shinra hauler was destroyed, an apology was made and isk was offered.
Please do not insult everyoneĘs intelligence by stating that Xetic caused the walls of diplomacy to come tumbling down and start the war over this incident.
Everyone knows, it was the excuse you were waiting for.
As far as being at war, great, I'm sure myself and many others will enjoy the battles to come.
See you on the battlefield.
Harri
thats bull no isk has been offered only response we got was "you are kos to us i've just checked with our "leadership"
Actually Shinra MORON, it was offered by Krapz, in the big 17 page thread. Please feel free to continue to show your stupidity.
oh yes i play my game on the fourm on page 17 of that thread not in game where we got the real response numb nut
If you actually play the game then why are you posting here then? Log on an play the game and let the professional forum *****s do the rest. LMAO. How can Shinra have such stupid members willing to get hooked like a fish?![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif)
its downtime but you wouldn't know that
LMAO of course it's is. But did that stop you from posting yesterday when it wasn't? ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:56:00 -
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absentia
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:58:00 -
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![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) Originally by: bong holio look mom i can post white my alt to
Mmmm, that post would be entertaining, if I was an alt....![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:02:00 -
[184]
Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42
Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
Let me give you some facts
1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made.
2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us.
3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so.
4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us .
5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile
6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY
mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this :
2005.04.04 00:05:00
Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown
It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:17:00 -
[185]
Originally by: olyyyyy
Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42
Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
Let me give you some facts
1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made.
2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us.
3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so.
4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us .
5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile
6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY
mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this :
2005.04.04 00:05:00
Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown
It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers.
CYVOK posted on - 2005.04.05 05:03:00
Look at kill mail date?
Look at the CLS forum *****s bragging about starting a war
There is obviously something up with the kill mail as even SE are on it
Probably an abandoned shuttle ^_^
Also xetic "shot" at shinra before that incident aswell after we had moved in.
But its all moot now, you betrayed us when you said you wouldnt. Disappointed by you olyyyy, very disappointed.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:18:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona [[...]
There was never any intention to kill XETIC really. Sure supremacy may of talked about it because XETIC have been for a long time supremacys main enemies. But the idea was to crush imperium, fountain and g. [...]
Yeah and for that reason you moved to the other side of the galaxy. Serious dude do you think anybody believes that? If you want to attack G or IMP you should have moved your blob to XZH or somewhere else in the north west not to Curse.
Ah I forgot you guys love doing tons of jumps ;). We will get fights im already looking forward to that. The question is who is going to have to make the jumps...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:18:00 -
[187]
Originally by: olyyyyy
Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42
Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
Let me give you some facts
1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made.
2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us.
3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so.
4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us .
5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile
6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY
mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this :
2005.04.04 00:05:00
Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown
It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers.
Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:19:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Acwron
Originally by: Reverend Necrona [[...]
There was never any intention to kill XETIC really. Sure supremacy may of talked about it because XETIC have been for a long time supremacys main enemies. But the idea was to crush imperium, fountain and g. [...]
Yeah and for that reason you moved to the other side of the galaxy. Serious dude do you think anybody believes that? If you want to attack G or IMP you should have moved your blob to XZH or somewhere else in the north west not to Curse.
Ah I forgot you guys love doing tons of jumps ;). We will get fights im already looking forward to that. The question is who is going to have to make the jumps...
I doubt you'd fly all the way here to log off.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:20:00 -
[189]
Originally by: olyyyyy
Originally by: LadyScarlet Edited by: LadyScarlet on 06/04/2005 04:46:42
Originally by: olyyyyy Edited by: olyyyyy on 06/04/2005 00:27:20
Originally by: LadyScarlet Olyyy i would be very careful who you call traitors concidering what you been planning all along...Seems you go your wish ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I think you didn't get it my dear: anticipation. I knew what was going to happen, I knew you would use the first pretext to declare war.
the council putted some barriers on my way, and I'm sure I could have put you in an even more difficult situation when you would have declared war upon us if council had followed me. But yeah, I was convinced you were preparing this. And you've just prooved today that I was right. I had no intention of preventive strike (and I doubt shooting down an indy and then apologizing + paying sound much like a preventive strike). The XF was not planning to attack ATUK and co. The XF however was preparing for the risk to see you attacking us which was not likely to happen, which happened in fact.
See, in fact it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That indy getting shot down was just an opportunity for you. You planned this war and used a mistake to declare it.
From a CA to another, still inventing crappy excuses to declare wars. You lost the first war. Now let's see if second round will give you a chance to settle the scores.
Let me give you some facts
1. atuk spoke to all before our group entered curse and all naps and agreements were made.
2. Upon those naps and agreements we got word you were working to launch a campagne against us.
3. people who have recently left Xetics corps provide enough info to prove of your doing so.
4. when xetic was approched see "launchnlaud" the matter was to be dicussed upon xetic high council they would get back to us .
5.aprox 5 hours later CYVOK post was made even claiming They would def against and anyoen who shot first would be concsider hostile
6 last but not least YOU GUYS FIRED FIRST END OF STORY
mmkay so you're saying we fired first ? then what is this :
2005.04.04 00:05:00
Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown
It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you.
There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short). ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:36:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Darken Two
Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you.
There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short).
hmmmm then by your words we should have attack XF space cuz there was 24 hours befor the nap kick and XF would have hade no prob whit it ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:36:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Darken Two
Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you.
There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short).
[ 2005.04.05 18:59:07 ] Cinnander > someone *cough* me popped an indy I was under the impression I was allowed to shoot and now their knickers are all in a twist :) [ 2005.04.05 19:01:08 ] Cinnander > I did more politically in 35 seconds than XF has done in 2 months however. And if it gives us FINALLY something to shoot at...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:44:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Darken Two
Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you.
There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short).
Ok not to be nitpicky or anything, but the guy who shot the hauler says hinra were blue , so why mess?? And him being CLS he should be the first to know about NAPS and all that
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:49:00 -
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I will for my third time tell you that creating the SCA was a wrong move
and that's why we have this situation
after CYVOK's post a shinra indy get's destroyed = Xetic backstabbers
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:55:00 -
[195]
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer XETIC:
ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US.
Come get em.....
You bet we will. ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif) ________________
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:08:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Belian
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Darken Two
Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you.
There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short).
hmmmm then by your words we should have attack XF space cuz there was 24 hours befor the nap kick and XF would have hade no prob whit it ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Not quite, the 24 hours wasn't to go out attacking anyone you felt like, just so that any incidents that happened within that time were given the chance to be resolved, which in this case it wasn't ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:10:00 -
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This is a warning to anyone that ever shoots at me again.
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:13:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Christobel
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Darken Two
Ok I'm not involved in your war, but just out of curiosity, was this not before CYVOK's statement?? In that case it is irrelevant since his statement set the ground rules and you ended up breaking your own rules. I think thats what got everyone ****ed off at you.
There was supposed to be a 24 hour period after Cyvoks announcement before the NAP was offically in place. Basically to give everyone the chance to "get informed". The earlier attacks by SNRA on Xetic ships only added to the confusion which lead to the blowing up of one of their haulers. Bringing us to where we are now (in short).
[ 2005.04.05 18:59:07 ] Cinnander > someone *cough* me popped an indy I was under the impression I was allowed to shoot and now their knickers are all in a twist :) [ 2005.04.05 19:01:08 ] Cinnander > I did more politically in 35 seconds than XF has done in 2 months however. And if it gives us FINALLY something to shoot at...
lol, there is a name from the past. Have you not left CLS yet... ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) I guess the rest of the chat didn't fit in with what you are trying to convey.... ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:16:00 -
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I think he makes his point quite well in a concise manner, as oppose to your 6x quote technique refuting the plainly obvious.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shredder This is a warning to anyone that ever shoots at me again.
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Shredder, thats actually rather funny.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:18:00 -
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Please can't you lot actually just bugger off and play the game rather than spewing this s*it out all over the boards all bloody day long?
Seriously, its such a endless drag of argumentative, whiny, mindnumbing, boring c*ap.
Its a mystery to me that any of you actually have time to log in what with the constant neverending stream of posts.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:59:00 -
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XETIC should take this Cinnander person out and really really spank them.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 14:59:00 -
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So.... to summarize:
XF and 'CA' had agreed to a NAP, however it was not in effect yet. On the other side, Millennium has/had a standing war with Black Omega Security.
Anister (from BOS) was told that MLM would continue fighting this war, until it was retracted. Anister agrees.
Few minutes after the convo between Slothe (MLM) and Anister, MLM shoots down a BOS hauler.
Attempts to apologize and reimburse are countered by ATUK/Shinra (mainly, they have the largest forum army) with threats and claims of treason.
A post on Supremacy forum said that 'CA' will fight XF anyway, just not yet. (But it will come.)
A post of an earlier kill by Shinra vs an Ion Corp member is posted. The first Shinra reply pretty much comes down to saying it isn't relevant, because it wasn't reported. (A kill is a kill, whether it's reported or not imho.)
Then ofcourse there's still a post by a Supremacy member saying they were already shooting Keiretsu/Foundation.
Result: war! wwwhiiieeee!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:05:00 -
[204]
WOW, the Republic Military School's political science must being doing a lot of current events assignments.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:11:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Xenu WTS: Immensia region.
minimum bid: 1bn buyout: 20bn
will be up for sale in about... 2 hours now.[/quote
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Selling what you dont have again.....Oh No you captured Fountain and removed them i forgot!!
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar WOW, the Republic Military School's political science must being doing a lot of current events assignments.
Yes, I like politics.. I didn't start playing too long ago (3 months or so), but I like reading up on big 'issues'. It gives me something to do. (It sure beats knitting!)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:13:00 -
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Well since you guys are not friends anymore we need a new target we are now taking offer you can hire us to kill for you plz contact toohot member of smite ![Evil or Very Mad](/images/icon_evil.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:14:00 -
[208]
Yes, they put it in as their second project right after "Learning to Control Your Ship", and before "Advanced AltFlame Techniques".
E.T. Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience.... http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u |
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:17:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Hulk Hogan
Originally by: Xenu WTS: Immensia region.
minimum bid: 1bn buyout: 20bn
will be up for sale in about... 2 hours now.[/quote
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Selling what you dont have again.....Oh No you captured Fountain and removed them i forgot!!
Fountain has NPC stations. You dont have that luxury.
Too lazy to get my sig changed
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:22:00 -
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regarding all other incidents happend or facts of forums evidence you think you have from our private forums, let me tell you different story, because all this mentioned above where only minor accidents, which wouldnt lead to a full scale war against Xetic.
Why the hell then, there is a war at all. My personal opinion and i think iam right here is this post, which gave us this nice rules we should follow or ... dunno what but something terrible would have happend to our childrens.
I read your post and rules carefully and really i thought, "damn i have to sell my sould here". I havent replyed imidiatly, because i wouldnt make me look fool, because i didnt know about the new "SCA + us" deal. Then i realised that this wasnt signed by anyone except xetic.
I mean common, you try to bully around a group of the most known pvp warmongers in EVE, what did you thought would happen.
Who knows what would happen in few weeks or months, but for sure your rules were an invitation to hit you mid in face with the hardest punch we are able to dish out.
Thats the only and single reason you are in trouble. The fact you started the aggression first, makes Xetic only more retard, because i thought, you want to drag all your allies into this war and make them fight us, if we would have attacked Xetic.
But for some me unknown reason, you couldnt wait for our inccident to happen, which would made us the aggressors and didnt give your allies any chance to retract their promised help.
Now you made this mistake by starting this foolish war on your own and you gave your allies all ammunition to retract their membership without beeing called traitor or carebears.
Probably Xetic became to arrogant thinking they could handle anything they want against any threat in EVE. The problem iam seeing here is most time Xetic was under real preasure they had great help from their allies, which gave them the numbers and power to defend their home.
Probably the lack of respect and fear let you make this stupid move. Well lets see where this will end if ever. One thing we wont do for sure, underestimate your abilitys to fight and give you easy kills/wins.
Its different to fight back some aggressors or to fight back an invador.
But again iam just a simple soldier and iam glad this all is none of my buisness. Also this are ofc, my personal opinions and wont reflect any official statements by my corp. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xeris
Originally by: Hulk Hogan
Originally by: Xenu WTS: Immensia region.
minimum bid: 1bn buyout: 20bn
will be up for sale in about... 2 hours now.[/quote
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Selling what you dont have again.....Oh No you captured Fountain and removed them i forgot!!
Fountain has NPC stations. You dont have that luxury.
Mmmm, no NPC stations, but their are a crap load of POS in Xetic Space according to map...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:30:00 -
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can they build ships in pos? no?
can they set clone to pos? no?
can they hide in their fishbowl pos? Sure, but thats ok we will control the stations and just npc whilst xetic cower in their pos'es
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:36:00 -
[213]
Needless to say both SNRA and ATUK are well versed in Fishbowl pvp.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:46:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Kim Wu can they build ships in pos? no?
can they set clone to pos? no?
can they hide in their fishbowl pos? Sure, but thats ok we will control the stations and just npc whilst xetic cower in their pos'es
Can they mine still with a POS in system? Yes?
Can they refine there ore at a POS? Yes?
Can the move refined ores back to empire to sell? Yes?
Can they use the isk that they sold to replace losses? Yes?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:47:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Darkrydar Needless to say both SNRA and ATUK are well versed in Fishbowl pvp.
Yep, that really helped you with FA....![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:48:00 -
[216]
You know, I almost felt bad for XF after reading their alliance chat today.
Then I read the forums......
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:51:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Christobel You know, I almost felt bad for XF after reading their alliance chat today.
Then I read the forums......
Yes it is rather pathetic.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:55:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Darkrydar Needless to say both SNRA and ATUK are well versed in Fishbowl pvp.
Yep, that really helped you with FA....![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Yes the mighty FA moaned that there space was not contested when we were flying around yz- at 1800ET on a saturday and there were 3 FA pilots in system. Maybe we should of stuck up one of those mighty Fishbowls. You know you can't:
Mine if your cowering in a POS.
Thus you can't refine the mins.
Thus you can't sell them empire.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:00:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Kim Wu can they build ships in pos? no?
can they set clone to pos? no?
can they hide in their fishbowl pos? Sure, but thats ok we will control the stations and just npc whilst xetic cower in their pos'es
Can they mine still with a POS in system? Yes?
Can they refine there ore at a POS? Yes?
Can the move refined ores back to empire to sell? Yes?
Can they use the isk that they sold to replace losses? Yes?
How can they mine when we control the space and will wander the area enforcing our law?
Just like FA your posses will fall.
FA had many pos around YZ, wed destroyed one and they packed up the rest and were left with only on in YZ and one far away which we often went to to spank them :)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:01:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Hastrabull on 06/04/2005 16:03:43
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Kim Wu can they build ships in pos? no?
can they set clone to pos? no?
can they hide in their fishbowl pos? Sure, but thats ok we will control the stations and just npc whilst xetic cower in their pos'es
Can they mine still with a POS in system? Yes?
Can they refine there ore at a POS? Yes?
Can the move refined ores back to empire to sell? Yes?
Can they use the isk that they sold to replace losses? Yes?
Can they mine still with a POS in system? Yes? Yes, but Very Hard due to enemy presence.
Can they refine there ore at a POS? Yes? Yes
Can the move refined ores back to empire to sell? Yes? Yes but its very hard due to enemy presence close and alot of enemies enroute to empire
Can they use the isk that they sold to replace losses? Yes? Yes
One more question: Can they keep their POS's online? Yes, but its very hard due to enemy presence.
One more aspect. Psychological aspect of invasion. Sooner or later Xetics will start loosing their patience and start making mistakes (lesson learned from JQA campaign) ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:01:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Darkrydar Needless to say both SNRA and ATUK are well versed in Fishbowl pvp.
Yep, that really helped you with FA....![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Yes the mighty FA moaned that there space was not contested when we were flying around yz- at 1800ET on a saturday and there were 3 FA pilots in system. Maybe we should of stuck up one of those mighty Fishbowls. You know you can't:
Mine if your cowering in a POS.
Thus you can't refine the mins.
Thus you can't sell them empire.
Hit F10 Key look at the number of POS that are not in systems that have player controlled stations in Xetic space, then ask yourself exactly how you are going to stop people from mining in all those areas. I use to be in Xetic, so this is a legit question honestly, I'm curious to see how a coalition of corps/allainces can really harm anyone in said war with some of the biggest corps having POS with fuel supplied for 6 months or greater.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:02:00 -
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I wish everyone would STFU already. What's happened has happened so let's give BURN EDEN their starring role in these forums back and get to swapping ownership of POS'es.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:03:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Kim Wu
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Kim Wu can they build ships in pos? no?
can they set clone to pos? no?
can they hide in their fishbowl pos? Sure, but thats ok we will control the stations and just npc whilst xetic cower in their pos'es
Can they mine still with a POS in system? Yes?
Can they refine there ore at a POS? Yes?
Can the move refined ores back to empire to sell? Yes?
Can they use the isk that they sold to replace losses? Yes?
How can they mine when we control the space and will wander the area enforcing our law?
Just like FA your posses will fall.
FA had many pos around YZ, wed destroyed one and they packed up the rest and were left with only on in YZ and one far away which we often went to to spank them :)
Please look at the map and look at the number of POS up, will your force be enough to blockade all the systems in Xetic, especially considering that everyone still needs to work in RL and sleep?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:05:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Darkrydar Needless to say both SNRA and ATUK are well versed in Fishbowl pvp.
Yep, that really helped you with FA....![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Yes the mighty FA moaned that there space was not contested when we were flying around yz- at 1800ET on a saturday and there were 3 FA pilots in system. Maybe we should of stuck up one of those mighty Fishbowls. You know you can't:
Mine if your cowering in a POS.
Thus you can't refine the mins.
Thus you can't sell them empire.
Hit F10 Key look at the number of POS that are not in systems that have player controlled stations in Xetic space, then ask yourself exactly how you are going to stop people from mining in all those areas. I use to be in Xetic, so this is a legit question honestly, I'm curious to see how a coalition of corps/allainces can really harm anyone in said war with some of the biggest corps having POS with fuel supplied for 6 months or greater.
You dont have to block all POS systems. You have to block entrance points to them and harass mining ops.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hastrabull Edited by: Hastrabull on 06/04/2005 16:03:43
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Kim Wu can they build ships in pos? no?
can they set clone to pos? no?
can they hide in their fishbowl pos? Sure, but thats ok we will control the stations and just npc whilst xetic cower in their pos'es
Can they mine still with a POS in system? Yes?
Can they refine there ore at a POS? Yes?
Can the move refined ores back to empire to sell? Yes?
Can they use the isk that they sold to replace losses? Yes?
Can they mine still with a POS in system? Yes? Yes, but Very Hard due to enemy presence.
Can they refine there ore at a POS? Yes? Yes
Can the move refined ores back to empire to sell? Yes? Yes but its very hard due to enemy presence close and alot of enemies enroute to empire
Can they use the isk that they sold to replace losses? Yes? Yes
One more question: Can they keep their POS's online? Yes, but its very hard due to enemy presence.
One more aspect. Psychological aspect of invasion. Sooner or later Xetics will start loosing their patience and start making mistakes (lesson learned from JQA campaign)
Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 06/04/2005 16:18:45 Look so your saying XETIC are running to empire, fine but there space will not be theres when they return. It will be occupied by people willing to defend the space they claim and live in.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
The same was said during JQA war. "We will sit it out." "You will get bored".
What if we move into your space and settle down. What if we never again leave. How long do you think your for the playtime paying members will suffer such restriction?
Think about it, JQA thought same. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 06/04/2005 16:18:45 Look so your saying XETIC are running to empire, fine but there space will not be theres when they return. It will be occupied by people willing to defend the space they claim and live in.
Well perfect example was last nite, Shinra/ATUK and co take E8 station with their blob, Xetic forms a blob hours before downtime and re-take station. So exactly how are you going maintain a player controlled station against a big allaince like Xetic and then have to deal with their POS all over the place. Setting up chokepoints is all well and nice, but you know those blockades don't last forever especially if they have fuel and reserves for 4-6 months. I'm just really curious how you can accomplish all this given the current game mechanics and logistics on war.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:28:00 -
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All that can be accomplished is to roam Xetic space and make life as misarble on them as possible, forcing as many as can into empire where they get bored as pants and get bothered by empire wars.
Other then that, nothing short of keeping all PCS in their space can do more untill CCP finally changes POS to be desctructable like they should be.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
The same was said during JQA war. "We will sit it out." "You will get bored".
What if we move into your space and settle down. What if we never again leave. How long do you think your for the playtime paying members will suffer such restriction?
Think about it, JQA thought same.
Well, JQA is not Xetic, for starters they didnt have nearly the amount of players than xetic AND their space wasn't as big. Keep in mind the number of regions Xetic has and the number of systems JQA controled, also factor in the number of POS (its getting redundant on my part, but it is still valid to consider).
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:31:24 OHNOES!!!!111!11!!
CCP is gonna bann us all
because Xetic is gonna blame the game mechanisc cuz we pwning em and they cant pwn us![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Kitanna on 06/04/2005 16:41:20
Originally by: siim Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:31:24 OHNOES!!!!111!11!!
CCP is gonna bann us all
because Xetic is gonna blame the game mechanisc cuz we pwning em and they cant pwn us![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
And here I thought I was going to have some good posting with some of the best pvpers in the game about the current war in Eve...
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kitanna Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
You forget that Supremacy is not OC. You forget that supremacy has the will and character to kick you guys out if they chose to do so. You assume you can play the bored card again. The thing is, the war is not 1 day old yet and you guys start talking bout boring us to death allready.... XETIC, the stuff of legends.
You assume alot.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: DrQuiz XETIC should take this Cinnander person out and really really spank them.
Why? This war was planned anyway, he gave an excuse, everybody and their alt jumped on it. We'd have had a war eventually anyways. Now you're maybe not 100% prepared.
If anything, he's our hero.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
You forget that Supremacy is not OC. You forget that supremacy has the will and character to kick you guys out if they chose to do so. You assume you can play the bored card again. The thing is, the war is not 1 day old yet and you guys start talking bout boring us to death allready.... XETIC, the stuff of legends.
You assume alot.
On the money as allways thol Why don't you employ your boring tactic and see how far it gets you, we have faced it far too many times not to have made provision for it.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:49:50
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Edited by: Princess Kitanna on 06/04/2005 16:41:20
Originally by: siim Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:31:24 OHNOES!!!!111!11!!
CCP is gonna bann us all
because Xetic is gonna blame the game mechanisc cuz we pwning em and they cant pwn us![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
And here I thought I was going to have some good posting with some of the best pvpers in the game about the current war in Eve...
ohnoes... now I must hide
tbh I dont care **** what u say. u left Xetic! cant stand empire wars? wtf are u talking about u arent even xetic
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
You forget that Supremacy is not OC. You forget that supremacy has the will and character to kick you guys out if they chose to do so. You assume you can play the bored card again. The thing is, the war is not 1 day old yet and you guys start talking bout boring us to death allready.... XETIC, the stuff of legends.
You assume alot.
Okay first of all you need to take a step back, I'm not Xetic. Lose the chest beating comments this is an internet message board, not some place to overcompensate RL inadequacies. Secondly I made points about how big Xetic regions are and the number of POS they have according to the map. The waiting game is one tactic, but trying to control all of the Xetic regions is a different matter, if you think you can do it with the number of logistical issues that will arise as well as the RL implications of how and when people play this game then more power to you, but recent campaigns against FA say otherwise.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: siim Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:49:50
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Edited by: Princess Kitanna on 06/04/2005 16:41:20
Originally by: siim Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:31:24 OHNOES!!!!111!11!!
CCP is gonna bann us all
because Xetic is gonna blame the game mechanisc cuz we pwning em and they cant pwn us![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
And here I thought I was going to have some good posting with some of the best pvpers in the game about the current war in Eve...
ohnoes... now I must hide
tbh I dont care **** what u say. u left Xetic! cant stand empire wars? wtf are u talking about u arent even xetic
LMAO, I should have expected this type of reponse![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:51:00 -
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nuff sayd.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
You forget that Supremacy is not OC. You forget that supremacy has the will and character to kick you guys out if they chose to do so. You assume you can play the bored card again. The thing is, the war is not 1 day old yet and you guys start talking bout boring us to death allready.... XETIC, the stuff of legends.
You assume alot.
On the money as allways thol Why don't you employ your boring tactic and see how far it gets you, we have faced it far too many times not to have made provision for it.
LOL, I have nothing to employ, but I do love the idiocy among certain posters to assume many things, like me being able to 'employ' the bored tactic strategy for an allaince of which I'm not a part of.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
You forget that Supremacy is not OC. You forget that supremacy has the will and character to kick you guys out if they chose to do so. You assume you can play the bored card again. The thing is, the war is not 1 day old yet and you guys start talking bout boring us to death allready.... XETIC, the stuff of legends.
You assume alot.
Okay first of all you need to take a step back, I'm not Xetic. Lose the chest beating comments this is an internet message board, not some place to overcompensate RL inadequacies. Secondly I made points about how big Xetic regions are and the number of POS they have according to the map. The waiting game is one tactic, but trying to control all of the Xetic regions is a different matter, if you think you can do it with the number of logistical issues that will arise as well as the RL implications of how and when people play this game then more power to you, but recent campaigns against FA say otherwise.
the difference between xetic and FA is that XF doesn't have NPC stations to hide in.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: siim nuff sayd.
Until the next time you mean....
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kitanna Well, JQA is not Xetic, for starters they didnt have nearly the amount of players than xetic AND their space wasn't as big. Keep in mind the number of regions Xetic has and the number of systems JQA controled, also factor in the number of POS (its getting redundant on my part, but it is still valid to consider).
Smaller territory, and the geography of the JQV/MK7 constellations was an advantage to the defenders, they also had NPC stations... We still won there (SUPRM).
POS stations in XF space mean you can't even use the space without taking the stations.
We have five times the numbers SUPRM had at its disposal.
POS's are irrelevant, in terms of PVP they are expensive safespots.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Well, JQA is not Xetic, for starters they didnt have nearly the amount of players than xetic AND their space wasn't as big. Keep in mind the number of regions Xetic has and the number of systems JQA controled, also factor in the number of POS (its getting redundant on my part, but it is still valid to consider).
Smaller territory, and the geography of the JQV/MK7 constellations was an advantage to the defenders, they also had NPC stations... We still won there (SUPRM).
POS stations in XF space mean you can't even use the space without taking the stations.
We have five times the numbers SUPRM had at its disposal.
POS's are irrelevant, in terms of PVP they are expensive safespots.
Next?
POS in Xetic space are NOT in systems that have player controlled space, in some systems you aren't even going the systems that have player controlled stations to get to POS. You use the logic of JQA being small and thus easliy defended, yet Xetic controlled space is Feyathabolis, Immensea, Omist, Impass, Tenerfris, all large areas that will present logistical issues with any invasion force. The POS still means income being generated, u can control a system with a player controlled system but when you got a POS 20 jumps from that systems and your still mining away, it kinda defeat the purpose.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: siim
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Hastra you are Supremacy, you of all people should know Xetic can wait things out. Omega Corp invasion of Immensea comes to mind. Also Xetic is a carebear allaince, whats to say they don't alreay have 6 months worth of fuel stored in corp hangars at POS.
You forget that Supremacy is not OC. You forget that supremacy has the will and character to kick you guys out if they chose to do so. You assume you can play the bored card again. The thing is, the war is not 1 day old yet and you guys start talking bout boring us to death allready.... XETIC, the stuff of legends.
You assume alot.
Okay first of all you need to take a step back, I'm not Xetic. Lose the chest beating comments this is an internet message board, not some place to overcompensate RL inadequacies. Secondly I made points about how big Xetic regions are and the number of POS they have according to the map. The waiting game is one tactic, but trying to control all of the Xetic regions is a different matter, if you think you can do it with the number of logistical issues that will arise as well as the RL implications of how and when people play this game then more power to you, but recent campaigns against FA say otherwise.
the difference between xetic and FA is that XF doesn't have NPC stations to hide in.
No they have muliple POS to safespot in.![Evil or Very Mad](/images/icon_evil.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: reaTh on 06/04/2005 17:04:01
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: siim Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:49:50
Originally by: Princess Kitanna Edited by: Princess Kitanna on 06/04/2005 16:41:20
Originally by: siim Edited by: siim on 06/04/2005 16:31:24 OHNOES!!!!111!11!!
CCP is gonna bann us all
because Xetic is gonna blame the game mechanisc cuz we pwning em and they cant pwn us![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
And here I thought I was going to have some good posting with some of the best pvpers in the game about the current war in Eve...
ohnoes... now I must hide
tbh I dont care **** what u say. u left Xetic! cant stand empire wars? wtf are u talking about u arent even xetic
LMAO, I should have expected this type of reponse![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:05:00 -
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why cant i change my writing colours?
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kitanna
POS in Xetic space are NOT in systems that have player controlled space, in some systems you aren't even going the systems that have player controlled stations to get to POS. You use the logic of JQA being small and thus easliy defended, yet Xetic controlled space is Feyathabolis, Immensea, Omist, Impass, Tenerfris, all large areas that will present logistical issues with any invasion force. The POS still means income being generated, u can control a system with a player controlled system but when you got a POS 20 jumps from that systems and your still mining away, it kinda defeat the purpose.
Those POS's generate nowhere near enough income to cover war losses.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy 2005.04.04 00:05:00
Victim: Hampon Fastidious Corporation: Ion Corp. Destroyed Type: Minmatar Shuttle Solar System: HED-GP System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: FunzzeR (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.6 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
Name: dResche Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: P.S.I Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown
It's even worse that it's on your own killboard ^^ Get clues and come back, backstabbers.
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
POS in Xetic space are NOT in systems that have player controlled space, in some systems you aren't even going the systems that have player controlled stations to get to POS. You use the logic of JQA being small and thus easliy defended, yet Xetic controlled space is Feyathabolis, Immensea, Omist, Impass, Tenerfris, all large areas that will present logistical issues with any invasion force. The POS still means income being generated, u can control a system with a player controlled system but when you got a POS 20 jumps from that systems and your still mining away, it kinda defeat the purpose.
Those POS's generate nowhere near enough income to cover war losses.
And logistical issues? We'd have to lose ships for that.
Mmmm, thats a funny thing if a corp has 4-6 month supply of fuel already mined and setup and they are using that POS mainly to refine arkonor and bistot in a sector to the point where they now have a backlog of the ore to refine for days now, keeping in mind the 200km3 limit for intensive refinery, how is that not generating enough income to keep up with war costs. This is just one corp I used as an example, mainly my former corp in Xetic (oops did i just give out some info?? , they will hate me now).
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: DeathGrip on 06/04/2005 17:16:22 WOOHOO More targets to shoot at and more torps headed at me. Gotta Love it.
I am not sure what to think. I do know that every one wants Xetic freaken dead for some reason. So now CA wants to get in on it and join the bus. I say good for them, even if some way Xetic did go away, I don't think any alliance has taken the beatings and all the Emprie and 0.0 wars that Xetic has. We had 11 Empire Wars 3 weeks ago, all the posts saying Xetic is DEAD!!! But we stood through it and now CA wants there shot. Lets give it to them. Dosnt matter how you look at it, even if they take over Xetic space, dosn't mean that they won. There are no Winners in War. Not under current system anyway. We will both lose many many many ships. I am sure I will lose ships, as I am also aware I will take many ships down with me. There is not one corp in the CA alliance that i can think of I have not had a battle or two with and lost ships to them just as they have lost ships to us, some battles lost, some battles won. That is they way EVE works. But back to the Stain Thing. I honestly don't know what to think about it, They are tyring to save there own necks, but even if Xetic goes down CA will need a new target, think about that.
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I read this thread instead of doing my homework.........I still don't have a clue whats going on ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/04/2005 18:08:06
Originally by: emptydude I read this thread instead of doing my homework.........I still don't have a clue whats going on ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
It's known as S.N.A.F.U - situation normal, all forummed up.
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Originally by: Shredder Two pilots were involved in the killing of my hauler, both of which are seemingly long term members of celestial horizons, and have been posting gibberish on the forums.
hehe, actually just laughing at the Sig Pic, that was pretty funny to see the new station name ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) ***********************************
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This is ti, SE have turned to the dark side... OOOOO btw since when did a single kill count as anything big? you could or just reimburshed him right? SE lametards
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 06/04/2005 20:22:09
Originally by: FlakKer This is ti, SE have turned to the dark side... OOOOO btw since when did a single kill count as anything big? you could or just reimburshed him right? SE lametards
It only takes one shot to start a war when shooting at PVP corp. Please people, remember that, so if you don't want to fight, you won't make the same mistake again, especially when the PVP corp. show up blue to you. After shots are fired, the game is ON, no matter how much you regret it, by then itĘs too late.
PVP corps just needs an excuse to fight. By shooting them/us, you are doing them/us a favor. If you donĘt want war, donĘt shoot first. Otherwise, donĘt wine about getting shot later.
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Edited by: Mariarchi Desperado on 06/04/2005 23:39:58 nvm
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Posted - 2005.04.07 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
POS in Xetic space are NOT in systems that have player controlled space, in some systems you aren't even going the systems that have player controlled stations to get to POS. You use the logic of JQA being small and thus easliy defended, yet Xetic controlled space is Feyathabolis, Immensea, Omist, Impass, Tenerfris, all large areas that will present logistical issues with any invasion force. The POS still means income being generated, u can control a system with a player controlled system but when you got a POS 20 jumps from that systems and your still mining away, it kinda defeat the purpose.
Those POS's generate nowhere near enough income to cover war losses.
And logistical issues? We'd have to lose ships for that.
Mmmm, thats a funny thing if a corp has 4-6 month supply of fuel already mined and setup and they are using that POS mainly to refine arkonor and bistot in a sector to the point where they now have a backlog of the ore to refine for days now, keeping in mind the 200km3 limit for intensive refinery, how is that not generating enough income to keep up with war costs. This is just one corp I used as an example, mainly my former corp in Xetic (oops did i just give out some info?? , they will hate me now).
Take their factory stations and make sure you hold them. Then, Xeticis the one with the impossibly-long logistical tail -- they have to get their ores to factories through hostile territory, and come back with finished ships.
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Posted - 2005.04.07 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kitanna
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Princess Kitanna
POS in Xetic space are NOT in systems that have player controlled space, in some systems you aren't even going the systems that have player controlled stations to get to POS. You use the logic of JQA being small and thus easliy defended, yet Xetic controlled space is Feyathabolis, Immensea, Omist, Impass, Tenerfris, all large areas that will present logistical issues with any invasion force. The POS still means income being generated, u can control a system with a player controlled system but when you got a POS 20 jumps from that systems and your still mining away, it kinda defeat the purpose.
Those POS's generate nowhere near enough income to cover war losses.
And logistical issues? We'd have to lose ships for that.
Mmmm, thats a funny thing if a corp has 4-6 month supply of fuel already mined and setup and they are using that POS mainly to refine arkonor and bistot in a sector to the point where they now have a backlog of the ore to refine for days now, keeping in mind the 200km3 limit for intensive refinery, how is that not generating enough income to keep up with war costs. This is just one corp I used as an example, mainly my former corp in Xetic (oops did i just give out some info?? , they will hate me now).
Yes, but carebears like this wont fight. They will just not login and it will cause divisions. Face it, you dont got SE/ATUK to fend you off this time.
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Originally by: DeathGrip Edited by: DeathGrip on 06/04/2005 17:16:22 WOOHOO More targets to shoot at and more torps headed at me. Gotta Love it.
I am not sure what to think. I do know that every one wants Xetic freaken dead for some reason. So now CA wants to get in on it and join the bus. I say good for them, even if some way Xetic did go away, I don't think any alliance has taken the beatings and all the Emprie and 0.0 wars that Xetic has. We had 11 Empire Wars 3 weeks ago, all the posts saying Xetic is DEAD!!! But we stood through it and now CA wants there shot. Lets give it to them. Dosnt matter how you look at it, even if they take over Xetic space, dosn't mean that they won. There are no Winners in War. Not under current system anyway. We will both lose many many many ships. I am sure I will lose ships, as I am also aware I will take many ships down with me. There is not one corp in the CA alliance that i can think of I have not had a battle or two with and lost ships to them just as they have lost ships to us, some battles lost, some battles won. That is they way EVE works. But back to the Stain Thing. I honestly don't know what to think about it, They are tyring to save there own necks, but even if Xetic goes down CA will need a new target, think about that.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fought Xetic once, for like a week......shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher would be harder tbh
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Posted - 2005.04.07 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Riddari on 07/04/2005 03:05:04
Originally by: Deathwing AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fought Xetic once, for like a week......shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher would be harder tbh
Guess you shot the non-pvp people eh?
Of course it was massive that you managed to fight every single member of a 4000+ people alliance to judge eh!
EDIT: Yeah, EVOL might jump on the train, so what, every other PVP corp has to show their (combined) muscle against EVE's most feared and loathed alliance since... uhh... the last alliance war.
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Posted - 2005.04.07 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari Edited by: Riddari on 07/04/2005 03:05:04
Originally by: Deathwing AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fought Xetic once, for like a week......shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher would be harder tbh
Guess you shot the non-pvp people eh?
Of course it was massive that you managed to fight every single member of a 4000+ people alliance to judge eh!
EDIT: Yeah, EVOL might jump on the train, so what, every other PVP corp has to show their (combined) muscle against EVE's most feared and loathed alliance since... uhh... the last alliance war.
for a week we like sat in ur core syystems and destroyed everything in site, mind u who hasnt done that in the past. And we may have not taken a shot at all ur 4000 memebers, but if u have 4000 members, then y were u unable to hold off the 30 pilot Evolution gangs?
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Thread > I demand 1 million isk, a pizza, and a plane to cuba.
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Posted - 2005.04.07 06:27:00 -
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Hi, Mom, I'm on a bandwagon and it's really really fast!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Posted - 2005.04.07 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Hi, Mom, I'm on a bandwagon and it's really really fast!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
please cry more for lack of 15387486543 alliances to back you up. ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Posted - 2005.04.07 08:17:00 -
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did you ever notice that you're really ugly thol? -----------------------------------
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Posted - 2005.04.07 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Hi, Mom, I'm on a bandwagon and it's really really fast!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
please cry more for lack of 15387486543 alliances to back you up. ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
The above post is a case in example of calling white, black!
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Posted - 2005.04.07 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Hi, Mom, I'm on a bandwagon and it's really really fast!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
please cry more for lack of 15387486543 alliances to back you up. ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
The above post is a case in example of calling white, black!
![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
I suppose. But it's fun to see the tables turned for once. Let's see how xetic does. Can they keep up as long as CA could? Only time will tell....
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Posted - 2005.04.07 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sassinak on 07/04/2005 10:04:33
Originally by: Deathwing
Originally by: Riddari Edited by: Riddari on 07/04/2005 03:05:04
Originally by: Deathwing AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fought Xetic once, for like a week......shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher would be harder tbh
Guess you shot the non-pvp people eh?
Of course it was massive that you managed to fight every single member of a 4000+ people alliance to judge eh!
EDIT: Yeah, EVOL might jump on the train, so what, every other PVP corp has to show their (combined) muscle against EVE's most feared and loathed alliance since... uhh... the last alliance war.
for a week we like sat in ur core syystems and destroyed everything in site, mind u who hasnt done that in the past. And we may have not taken a shot at all ur 4000 memebers, but if u have 4000 members, then y were u unable to hold off the 30 pilot Evolution gangs?
I concur with DW, I was there.... I led one of the Evolution gangs one night there and it was immense fun!
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2005.04.06 15:26:20 ] Admiral Pieg > theyre all in this against us and it doesnt look like stain wants to help [ 2005.04.06 15:26:40 ] III LightBringer > Then I suggest we do [ 2005.04.06 15:26:45 ] III LightBringer > not fight... [ 2005.04.06 15:26:48 ] General Hansen > hed-gp status? [ 2005.04.06 15:26:51 ] Uncle Fester > and does stain think that they will be safe [ 2005.04.06 15:27:03 ] Uncle Fester > they are fools if they hide behind this mdp [ 2005.04.06 15:27:18 ] III LightBringer > GH : you have been in Keberz a long time havein't you? Think HED is a deathtrap. [ 2005.04.06 15:27:20 ] Uncle Fester > it will destroy them just like curse nearly did before [ 2005.04.06 15:27:33 ] olyyy > uncle fester, SE chose to remain neutral [ 2005.04.06 15:27:40 ] olyyy > yes they stabbed us in the back [ 2005.04.06 15:27:40 ] General Hansen > lightbringer I've been here for about 4 hours [ 2005.04.06 15:27:46 ] Admiral Pieg > why?
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Originally by: Christobel 2005.04.06 15:26:20 ] Admiral Pieg > theyre all in this against us and it doesnt look like stain wants to help [ 2005.04.06 15:26:40 ] III LightBringer > Then I suggest we do [ 2005.04.06 15:26:45 ] III LightBringer > not fight... [ 2005.04.06 15:26:48 ] General Hansen > hed-gp status? [ 2005.04.06 15:26:51 ] Uncle Fester > and does stain think that they will be safe [ 2005.04.06 15:27:03 ] Uncle Fester > they are fools if they hide behind this mdp [ 2005.04.06 15:27:18 ] III LightBringer > GH : you have been in Keberz a long time havein't you? Think HED is a deathtrap. [ 2005.04.06 15:27:20 ] Uncle Fester > it will destroy them just like curse nearly did before [ 2005.04.06 15:27:33 ] olyyy > uncle fester, SE chose to remain neutral [ 2005.04.06 15:27:40 ] olyyy > yes they stabbed us in the back [ 2005.04.06 15:27:40 ] General Hansen > lightbringer I've been here for about 4 hours [ 2005.04.06 15:27:46 ] Admiral Pieg > why?
I'll do this for every thread you'll do, i don't like when people cut what i'm saying ;p
[ 2005.04.06 15:26:20 ] Admiral Pieg > theyre all in this against us and it doesnt look like stain wants to help [ 2005.04.06 15:26:40 ] III LightBringer > Then I suggest we do [ 2005.04.06 15:26:45 ] III LightBringer > not fight... [ 2005.04.06 15:26:48 ] General Hansen > hed-gp status? [ 2005.04.06 15:26:51 ] Uncle Fester > and does stain think that they will be safe [ 2005.04.06 15:27:02 ] Uncle Fester > they are fools if they hide behind this mdp [ 2005.04.06 15:27:18 ] III LightBringer > GH : you have been in Keberz a long time havein't you? Think HED is a deathtrap. [ 2005.04.06 15:27:20 ] Uncle Fester > it will destroy them just like curse nearly did before [ 2005.04.06 15:27:32 ] olyyy > uncle fester, SE chose to remain neutral [ 2005.04.06 15:27:39 ] olyyy > yes they stabbed us in the back [ 2005.04.06 15:27:40 ] General Hansen > lightbringer I've been here for about 4 hours [ 2005.04.06 15:27:46 ] olyyy > but they aren't kos [ 2005.04.06 15:27:46 ] Admiral Pieg > why?
mkay ? ;p
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Posted - 2005.04.07 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari Edited by: Riddari on 07/04/2005 03:05:04
Originally by: Deathwing AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fought Xetic once, for like a week......shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher would be harder tbh
Guess you shot the non-pvp people eh?
Of course it was massive that you managed to fight every single member of a 4000+ people alliance to judge eh!
EDIT: Yeah, EVOL might jump on the train, so what, every other PVP corp has to show their (combined) muscle against EVE's most feared and loathed alliance since... uhh... the last alliance war.
If you don't want wars and are such a pvp-poor alliance as you people keep mentioning to make us look bad, then don't go around ****ing people off and it wouldnt of happened! -----------------
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.04.07 10:45:00 -
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Why dont you all join this
Woef ![ugh](/images/icon_bear.gif) __________ HC MasiEEE
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