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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:02:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Looked like he missed a bunch... firing the M16 that slowly and I'd hit it every time  *Edit: From 500 meters  Not a target that small, in wind, while it is swinging around unpredictably. Virtually all of those would have hit a man sized target. 2 misses. That was a bowling pin, FYI. The AK would also have penetrated body armor, something the M16 simply won't do. Actually, because the round in the 7.62 is so big and it tumbles the body armor we wear will stop it from entering our bodies and hitting vital organs. While the 5.56 on a 1/7 twist is a smaller round and will penetrate it.
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
46
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:08:00 -
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Schalac wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Looked like he missed a bunch... firing the M16 that slowly and I'd hit it every time  *Edit: From 500 meters  Not a target that small, in wind, while it is swinging around unpredictably. Virtually all of those would have hit a man sized target. 2 misses. That was a bowling pin, FYI. The AK would also have penetrated body armor, something the M16 simply won't do. Actually, because the round in the 7.62 is so big and it tumbles the body armor we wear will stop it from entering our bodies and hitting vital organs. While the 5.56 on a 1/7 twist is a smaller round and will penetrate it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7jqsib8RU
SLAP .308 rounds defeat Class III and III+ military at the right range. Conventional .308 will defeat vehicle bodywork, CII and CII+ reliably. Don't know at extended range. Maybe you're wearing better body armor than that.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
1619
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:08:00 -
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Oh well, it doesn't matter in the end. The US is as good as owned by the Chinese. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
113
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:15:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7jqsib8RUSLAP .308 rounds defeat Class III and III+ military at the right range. Conventional .308 will defeat vehicle bodywork, CII and CII+ reliably. Don't know at extended range. Maybe you're wearing better body armor than that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIarVbfERq4
Broken plate, at close range. |

stoicfaux
1744
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:22:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Oh well, it doesn't matter in the end. The US is as good as owned by the Chinese. Nope. http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2012/03/spring-2012-edition-who-really-owns-us.html#.UJSN4MXA9sI
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
1619
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:26:00 -
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Googled? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:33:00 -
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Daisy red rider BB gun > m16 and ak47 |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:35:00 -
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There's no way this topic wasn't gas for a fire... I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
237
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:57:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Yes, that's why Australia is a world power  Talking **** about the ONLY country on the planet that literally always backs the US up in war. Good job. Oh, and Australian SF are almost universally considered superior trained to the USSF, Spetsnaz and SAS. Only by the Australians.... with their dozen or so warships and US supplied F/A-18 fighters  SF = Special Forces not overall army.
US army does not = Green Berrets.
German army does not = Spetsnaz.
Australian army does not = SAS. |

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:07:00 -
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Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Yes, that's why Australia is a world power  Talking **** about the ONLY country on the planet that literally always backs the US up in war. Good job. Oh, and Australian SF are almost universally considered superior trained to the USSF, Spetsnaz and SAS. Only by the Australians.... with their dozen or so warships and US supplied F/A-18 fighters  SF = Special Forces not overall army. US army does not = Green Berrets. German army does not = Spetsnaz. Australian army does not = SAS. I was under the impression that the SAS was the Special Air Services and was a British outfit.
Also the Spetsnaz are Russian... |
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
46
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:08:00 -
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That level IV stuff is amazing. Just amazing. If you're wearing that, I'm glad.
Do you know if ESAPI stops modern sniper rounds like .338 hardened Lapua and .50 BMG SLAP and SLAP-T? |

Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
237
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:08:00 -
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Schalac wrote:Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Yes, that's why Australia is a world power  Talking **** about the ONLY country on the planet that literally always backs the US up in war. Good job. Oh, and Australian SF are almost universally considered superior trained to the USSF, Spetsnaz and SAS. Only by the Australians.... with their dozen or so warships and US supplied F/A-18 fighters  SF = Special Forces not overall army. US army does not = Green Berrets. German army does not = Spetsnaz. Australian army does not = SAS. I was under the impression that the SAS was the Special Air Services and was a British outfit. Also the Spetsnaz are Russian... SAS is also the name of the Australian special forces. And I think it's also Special Air Services as well.
As for Spetsnaz, my bad. |

Praxis Ginimic
73
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:15:00 -
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Wow....look at what happened to this pos thread while on the way home from work. Where to start? the AK-47 wasn't ever a superior machine. What was special was how cheap and easy it was to manufacture
the same thing made the Sherman great. Sure it took three of them to take out one (obviously superior) Panzer, two of which where obliterated during the maneuver, but the US pumped out
No one mentioned oil...Texan oil...mixed with African oil...thanks Brits/Aussies. On that note what about the Pacific...all America
I won't even try to argue against how bad the m16 sucks or that America & USSR stole ALL the best post war tech from the Germans. Turns out we didn't get it all...but if you awesome (and I really mean that) bastards (that too) ever start a third we'll clean you right,out of scientists
[*] and a lot of other points that I can't remember...I did graduate but then never stopped smoking pot |

Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:18:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: A lot of it is referenced, by the way, HORRIBLY referenced with facts. Those darned facts! But just in case you haven't, you might want to check them. FYI, I don't care what American rifle you personally like, it's smaller, compact European gear like the P90 and H&K SMGs that outperform all of it at the end of the day. The M16 was always a joke, the M4 is such a clout to maintain and that's why the US is replacing them both with the SCAR series (which incorporates a LOT of stuff coming outta Eurotech). I'm Australian, so I have no personal bias here - we don't make ****, we just take what already exists and make it better. But if there's one thing we do know, it's quality over quantity, which is why we use the F88 Steyr as our primary AR and not the M16 or M4. Yes, that's why Australia is a world power 
Don't underestimate us, world power or not, we still frequently beat the US military in war games using superior tactics and strategies, and we still train US fighter pilots and marines, and we still aren't hated by the rest of the world. And don't forget... the bigger they are, the harder they fall.
I am 12 and what is this?? |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
822
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:18:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:
This is wrong, all wrong...
If New Eden is America, then why aren't I strip searched every time I log in??
Your not a muslim. I'm not shitposting. |

Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
89
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:19:00 -
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I wonder how many have truly traveled and live abroad and run their mouths amok, there are things I love in many other parts of the world and one thing in my travels I've learned is there is absolutely no shortage of idiots speaking every language in the world. When and if a worldwide disaster rocks the world we will most likely have to pull together to survive simply as chimpmanity.  |

Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
237
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:20:00 -
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Praxis Ginimic wrote:Wow....look at what happened to this pos thread while on the way home from work. Where to start?
the AK-47 wasn't ever a superior machine. What was special was how cheap and easy it was to manufacture
the same thing made the Sherman great. Sure it took three of them to take out one (obviously superior) Panzer, two of which where obliterated during the maneuver, but the US pumped out
No one mentioned oil...Texan oil...mixed with African oil...thanks Brits/Aussies. On that note what about the Pacific...all America
I won't even try to argue against how bad the m16 sucks or that America & USSR stole ALL the best post war tech from the Germans. Turns out we didn't get it all...but if you awesome (and I really mean that) bastards (that too) ever start a third we'll clean you right,out of scientists
and a lot of other points that I can't remember...I did graduate but then never stopped smoking pot
The reason this thread derailed is that the derailment actually meant some occasionally intelligent posts... although not many even then but a darn sight more intelligent then the OP. |

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
113
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:24:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:That level IV stuff is amazing. Just amazing. If you're wearing that, I'm glad. Do you know if ESAPI stops modern sniper rounds like .338 hardened Lapua and .50 BMG SLAP and SLAP-T? No idea about the .338. I'd bet that it would be like getting hit by a truck if it did.
If you are getting shot at by a .50 though you better hope that they are way off, because just the compression of the round going passed you is enough to rip flesh off. If you are hit by it you turn into pink mist on the wind. |

Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
260
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:25:00 -
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Every time I look at this thread topic in the front page all I can think of is a certain song. For a while I couldn't decide if I wanted to post about it. But, temptation has overwhelmed me/ So, Here it goes!
AMERICA! **** YEAH! There just isn't anything intresting on the front page of the GD anymore. Yawn! |

Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:27:00 -
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Marzuq wrote:Solstice Project wrote:USA ... freedom .... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Without america you would be speaking Russian and starving under communism my friend. But that's besides the point I'm talking about how each aspect of race is very related to how America is.
And without russia europe would be speaking german. Oh you're american. NM you'll twist fact to make yourself look better than everyone like always... |
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
46
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:28:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:Every time I look at this thread topic in the front page all I can think of is a certain song. For a while I couldn't decide if I wanted to post about it. But, temptation has overwhelmed me/ So, Here it goes! AMERICA! **** YEAH!
Do you want to meet me/be my online girlfriend?  |

Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:28:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Yes, that's why Australia is a world power  Talking **** about the ONLY country on the planet that literally always backs the US up in war. Good job. Oh, and Australian SF are almost universally considered superior trained to the USSF, Spetsnaz and SAS.
Australian SAS is second only in capabilities to the Germans at this stage. Even the British SAS has lost its edge these days. A lot of US Marines get specialised tactical training from Australian SAS units. We act as aggressors that they have to defeat in certain combat situations.
FYI, there was a comment earlier about US-supplied F/A18s...
I remember not too long ago we were still using F-111s that we'd upgraded throughout the years to be more than 125% effective than when they were first introduced. We used them on exercise to "bomb" (simulated only) a contingent of US AEGIS destroyers and frigates in the Coral Sea. The US sent F-22s to stop them, but they failed. How, you ask?
Because we sent the F-111s in at low altitude and F/A-18Cs at high packed with air-to-air - the F-22s beat the F/A-18s ("losing" two 22s in the process) only to discover that none of them had been loaded with air-to-ground. Less than 20 seconds after this realisation was made, our "Pigs" were hitting the US fleet.
Aus=1, US=0
Australia has always fought smarter, hence why we keep a smaller military. Ever since Tubruk, Gallipoli, and particularly the Battle of Long Tan in Vietnam, Australian forces have been recognised as a superior fighting force in the world, even without having numbers or nuclear weapons.
I am 12 and what is this?? |

Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
46
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:30:00 -
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It's because you guys drink beer in HUGE cans! And eat shrimp on the barbie! |

Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:31:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:It's because you guys drink beer in HUGE cans! And eat shrimp on the barbie!
We fight better in a good mood, mate ;)
also, they're called "prawns" - shrimp is american. I am 12 and what is this?? |

Praxis Ginimic
73
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:34:00 -
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Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Praxis Ginimic wrote:Wow....look at what happened to this pos thread while on the way home from work. Where to start?
the AK-47 wasn't ever a superior machine. What was special was how cheap and easy it was to manufacture
the same thing made the Sherman great. Sure it took three of them to take out one (obviously superior) Panzer, two of which where obliterated during the maneuver, but the US pumped out
No one mentioned oil...Texan oil...mixed with African oil...thanks Brits/Aussies. On that note what about the Pacific...all America
I won't even try to argue against how bad the m16 sucks or that America & USSR stole ALL the best post war tech from the Germans. Turns out we didn't get it all...but if you awesome (and I really mean that) bastards (that too) ever start a third we'll clean you right,out of scientists
and a lot of other points that I can't remember...I did graduate but then never stopped smoking pot
The reason this thread derailed is that the derailment actually meant some occasionally intelligent posts... although not many even then but a darn sight more intelligent then the OP.
I farted earlier...it was more intelligent than the OP... I remembered another btw
[*] saying all Americans are sucking the corporate **** is like saying that all Europeans love the queen of England. We are just as diverse, in political/religious pov, as all of Europe. We have a massive spectrum of education, social pov and a poverty gap that is almost as large as that in some 3rd world nations. What most of the world doesn't seem to understand is how well the powers that be hide these facts from Americans. Especially the educated ones. Ironic, I know. Americans can be educated and traveled and still totally oblivious...its weird. There are honestly very few of us that know what is up and we,have to dig hard to get there and hide it from other Americans if you want to get a good job |

Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
46
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:36:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:It's because you guys drink beer in HUGE cans! And eat shrimp on the barbie! We fight better in a good mood, mate ;) also, they're called "prawns" - shrimp is american.
We have prawns, too. Although I bet most any idiot off the street would look at them and say "shrimp." Prawns are like 3-10 times the size of shrimp. |

Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
237
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Posted - 2012.11.03 04:38:00 -
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nope, Vegemite, it's the Vegemite. |

Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
19
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Posted - 2012.11.03 05:13:00 -
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Tinja Soikutsu wrote:nope, Vegemite, it's the Vegemite.
Please stop selling our secrets. Thank you. I am 12 and what is this?? |

Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
237
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Posted - 2012.11.03 05:15:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Tinja Soikutsu wrote:nope, Vegemite, it's the Vegemite. Please stop selling our secrets. Thank you. What you mean that I'm not supposed to tell them that at the wargames we supply the food and give everyone Vegemite sandwiches and then win while everyone else is still barfing? |

Guile SONICBOOM
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.11.03 05:19:00 -
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Its cool to hate on America, because America is the greatest. Its natural for everyone to be jealous. I'm certain they would be the same if they were in our position of power.
Ignorance is shared by all.
I think I am the best and you think you are the best. |
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