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Expending Doom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.06 11:38:00 -
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EVIL SQUISHY wrote: 1) At what point would I be somewhat useful to an Alliance and
Once you can kill a BS sized rat they'll be all over you.
The main facet of life in 0.0 is role-playing a plantation slave. Remember to say "yes'a masta" and don't speak out of turn. |
Adamai
Naval Protection Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:19:00 -
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Skill points are what tells a corp if your in eve to stay or Just passing through while your waiting for the next wow expansion.
I personally have a 5 mill sp requirement for exactly this reason I know from experience that eve is good place to discover Who is a rage quitter or not.
I dont mind new players!! What i do mind is part time players with No ingame ambition that have zero interest in a much larger picture Than their minds are able to create, eve is team sport, its a Long haul game that requires a substantial time investment.
You need to put the time in to skill up and learn, on average You will get about 1 mill sp per month with core skills at lvl 4
With implants and lvl 5 skills you can get around 1.3 mill sp a month maybe more.
Takes years to accumulate 10's of millions |
Xiode
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:07:00 -
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Wait, what? I can't reach lvl100 within one week?
Bye. |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:09:00 -
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Hey guys, OP hates you all. I'll just leave this here. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:12:00 -
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Boring troll is worse than bad troll.
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EVIL SQUISHY
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:24:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Boring troll is worse than bad troll.
-2/10
How exactly does asking about skillpoints make me a troll? |
Mr Pragmatic
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:43:00 -
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EVIL SQUISHY wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Boring troll is worse than bad troll.
-2/10 How exactly does asking about skillpoints make me a troll?
download evemon, put all skills into training que, scoff. unsubscribe. Maybe this world is another planet's hell. -Aldous Huxley
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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
166
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:48:00 -
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You can be useful to an alliance as soon as you adopt the mindset of: I am willing to learn. I am willing to follow directions. I am willing to lose ships.
Anyone who demands anything more is either scamming you, or taking the game way too seriously.
You'll see minimum skill point requirements as a guide to show that you know the basics of a game. They want 5 mil or whatever so that when they say "Fit a fast tackler for the roam tomorrow" you know what all those words mean.
Welcome to EVE, and good hunting OP. |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
170
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:27:00 -
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You White Males just don't know what it's like being oppressed on the Interwebs. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:41:00 -
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OP more sp does not mean better.Not in pvp and not in pve , it just means you got more ''options'' to choose from then someone with low SP.
Nothing more nothing less , take this from someone with 111 M SP. There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting The Paganism Alliance
98
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Posted - 2012.11.06 23:55:00 -
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I too disagree with the sentiment one shouldn't train up for SB's early in their carreer. Well, core skills are important for about any ship, as others have pointed out, and yes SB's are situational. Bombing comes with a little finesse but it isn't exactly rocket science.
With a proper Covops Cloaking Device (note: you will also need to invest SP in proper cloaking module requirements) you can pretty much move around with impunity throughout the entire universe. The Covops skill doesn't merely facilitate you with means to obliterate with brute force, it also allows you to pass gatecamps with relative ease. I do believe the advice was given in the spirit of adaptability above specialization, and with that I fully agree. Especially core skills are very important so you shouldn't neglect those.
The thing about SB's is that they are made out of paper. Ratting in them is possible abeit a warpfest and doesn't come recommended. It's just not a great ship to solo with. However, it has the ability to do tremendous damage VS large ships with bombs and you can even attend structure bashing if your bring your torpedoes. Since bombs can only be launched in nullsec and w-space (it is outlawed in Empire, which includes lowsec, and simply can't be used) this limits their optimal use to spaces inaccessable to new players. Wait, did I just say "inaccessable"? |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2886
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Posted - 2012.11.07 22:55:00 -
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I think the key argument against covert-ops bombers as an initial goal is not that they are useless, but that they do require a fairly considerable specialisation into not only the covert-ops cloak, then the battleship class weapons, then the science skill heavy bomb launcher (could be wrong here and be confused with the pre-req's of the hictor bubble, heh); but after all that, to be effective and fit a tank generally also requires considerable investment in fitting skills.
The 30m skillpoints you could put into that ship alone could be better used to spread your available options and give you a broader sense of the ships available. I'm all for specialisation when you know exactly what you want to use but in practice, personally, I would favour a bit of variety and broad experience at the expense of effectiveness in a single class of ship with a heavily defined role.
Of course if you are sure bombers are your intention then by all means go for it, they are amazingly effective for their ISK cost and are fun to fly. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
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Posted - 2012.11.08 01:20:00 -
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I Remember back in tha days you need 15mil for some bigger corps i dont know if this still is. i already hit the 80mil now. but again it was fun to hit the first 10 mil back then |
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