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Celticjim	Posted - 2005.04.11 16:17:00 - [31] Thanks Raid. I have the post bmarked, but is interesting to still read over. Again though, this is the kind of stuff I don't want to get into as at this time everything appears get into conjecture and not enough evidence. Basically, just want to get a small history, Release to about October/Nov 2003. At Nov 2003, the S.H.T.F for a few corps, and the start of the CA/SA begins. Any objectivity at this time goes out the window. I have my own opinions about this time frame which I don't want to get into. Rather, what I enjoyed about this time is what Torque was getting on about. I was at that fight in DSS. The only guy in a frig and I think Princess had one of the first bships in game. Regardless, the initial history is pretty interesting. One of the first "organized" alliances, some really good people at the time, and just a load of fun. Personally, I just want to be able to put it down in writing, and then submit to the community at large. Thanks again all. Appreciated. CJ
eXeCt	Posted - 2005.04.11 16:29:00 - [32] Celticjim, the original SWC CEO was Napalm SW (as far as I know. Been in SWC for ages, but not from the beginning). Naplam SW left the corp with all the bpo's and isk - nearly killed the corp.. but thats another storry. Thirdstorm (and the rest of the storm brothers) was a member of the high command. sadly he left the game shortly after the castor patch. eXeCt
BuRnEr	Posted - 2005.04.11 16:41:00 - [33] Edited by: BuRnEr on 11/04/2005 16:43:09 Originally by: Kulach November 2003 sounds about right as far as I remember... almost The deadline for the mining rights ended the 15 dec with a TS recording from OC TS and with that OC¦s time in SA. We can thank Redi (at the time in EV) for that rec (since he was the source of it. i dont know were i would have been if it was¦t releast. edit: damn wrong by a week, my memory fails me :P
Taurequis	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:12:00 - [34] Edited by: Taurequis on 11/04/2005 20:14:13 Originally by: GFLTorque OC left around November 2003 (Specter may remember). We voted in Setenta, PMAS, and Kirousha (spelling is fubared here) in the next group. Hi Jim, Setenta were already in SA for a while before the OC split. I was the most active exec in Kiroshi during this period. The corps first point of contact with SA was when i flew my vigil to HED to have a look around and met Specter with 1 other OC. After a long chat i put forward that Kiroshi (sitting around 70 members at that time) should join SA and specter put us forward. Shortly after we were voted in (a matter of days) Omega split and we were left in the situation of having to shoot those who had been promoting us joining the alliance in the first place. But we had a blood alliance with Setenta so we chose our side from there. I spent the next couple of months organising defensive comms and logistics around the 4GQ area against the OC fleets in o5y3. We then merged Kiroshi into Setenta around Feburary 2004. Best Regards, Taurequis Orator Empire Logistics edit : The Corp is my mother, the corp is my father, and we are its golden children.
Kayosoni	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:25:00 - [35] Edited by: Kayosoni on 11/04/2005 20:25:59 Originally by: Hellspawn01 Edited by: Hellspawn01 on 10/04/2005 16:14:36 I know that Evolultion, Omega corp, Redemption Inc., Devil¦s Kin and Shadow Company was part of SA when OF left. That is a lie. OF left SA because of us (oc) killing them too much. Solar wind retreated to jita for a year and a half because of us. OC was one of the first corps to inhabit Stain. got SWC in. EVER left because we killed them too much, and SA hated them anyway, cause they're lame tbh. COL left SA once to retreat to empire to make more battleships after we killed them too much, and then rejoined. STORM almost never put up a decent fight, probably cause they never had the numbers to do anything, they just died. E.S... same thing. R-I.... same thing. arthur sux. Basically stain sucked horribly back then. and after CA died, they eventually fell from grace to lack of targets. GG. ----------------------------------- Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server
Kayosoni	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:28:00 - [36] Edited by: Kayosoni on 11/04/2005 20:30:27 Edited by: Kayosoni on 11/04/2005 20:29:35 Also, this was the first casualty of war when OC left SA and we started to kill them :) http://www.siegedom.com/E-Files/SA/EveSAWar2.jpg edit: and while you're at it, just look at the whole folder. http://www.siegedom.com/E-Files/SA/ You can even see the dates on those. ----------------------------------- Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server
Masta Killa	Posted - 2005.04.11 21:10:00 - [37] Originally by: Kayosoni EVER left because we killed them too much, and SA hated them anyway, cause they're lame tbh. COL left SA once to retreat to empire to make more battleships after we killed them too much, and then rejoined. STORM almost never put up a decent fight, probably cause they never had the numbers to do anything, they just died. E.S... same thing. R-I.... same thing. arthur sux. Basically stain sucked horribly back then. and after CA died, they eventually fell from grace to lack of targets. Kayo there's no need to try to get more ppl to hate you because literally everyone already does. Make yourself some concrete boots and go explore the bottom of a harbor. -------------------------------------- We are The Collective. Resistance is futile.
Taz Devlin	Posted - 2005.04.11 21:20:00 - [38] Originally by: Kayosoni Edited by: Kayosoni on 11/04/2005 20:25:59 Originally by: Hellspawn01 Edited by: Hellspawn01 on 10/04/2005 16:14:36 I know that Evolultion, Omega corp, Redemption Inc., Devil¦s Kin and Shadow Company was part of SA when OF left. That is a lie. OF left SA because of us (oc) killing them too much. Solar wind retreated to jita for a year and a half because of us. OC was one of the first corps to inhabit Stain. got SWC in. EVER left because we killed them too much, and SA hated them anyway, cause they're lame tbh. COL left SA once to retreat to empire to make more battleships after we killed them too much, and then rejoined. STORM almost never put up a decent fight, probably cause they never had the numbers to do anything, they just died. E.S... same thing. R-I.... same thing. arthur sux. Basically stain sucked horribly back then. and after CA died, they eventually fell from grace to lack of targets. GG. Wow... easy on the trigger, were not discussing who killed who here mate. As far as I understand it, the thread is about who formed SA. Well.. it was untill you posted that at least Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
Celticjim	Posted - 2005.04.11 22:39:00 - [39] Edited by: Celticjim on 12/04/2005 00:25:37 Originally by: Kayosoni Edited by: Kayosoni on 11/04/2005 20:25:59 Originally by: Hellspawn01 Edited by: Hellspawn01 on 10/04/2005 16:14:36 I know that Evolultion, Omega corp, Redemption Inc., Devil¦s Kin and Shadow Company was part of SA when OF left. That is a lie. OF left SA because of us (oc) killing them too much. Solar wind retreated to jita for a year and a half because of us. OC was one of the first corps to inhabit Stain. got SWC in. EVER left because we killed them too much, and SA hated them anyway, cause they're lame tbh. COL left SA once to retreat to empire to make more battleships after we killed them too much, and then rejoined. STORM almost never put up a decent fight, probably cause they never had the numbers to do anything, they just died. E.S... same thing. R-I.... same thing. arthur sux. Basically stain sucked horribly back then. and after CA died, they eventually fell from grace to lack of targets. GG. Holy crap. Wtf does this have to do with who was in/out of Stain when it was formed? And since I started this bloody topic, I will debase myself a few points to counter one of your little assumptions....Old Farts leaving had nothing to do with you shooting us. I was the CEO during this time, and voluntarily left the CEO'ship when they decided to move. However I was still privvy to decisions the executive branch was making. Us leaving at the time had more to do with our own internal issues then you will ever know. This is why I don't give a rats ass about this period of time. Everyone has their own bloody viewpoints about this period and start to espouse it as gospel rooted in truth so ironclad it is above reproach. Translation, people have their head so far up and so long up their a#$ they think they are smelling perfume when all they have really been smelling is s$@%. Pardon my rant. To everyone posting positively, pardon my debasement and I thank you for your input. I just want to know about the period of time from May 2003 - about Oct/Nov 2003. If anyone has some good links or posts from their old bboards, please evemail me in game, and I will give you my email addy. I am specifically looking for this small time period...the formation...not the civil war stuff. Thanks CJ
Dawnstar	Posted - 2005.04.11 22:59:00 - [40] Originally by: GFLTorque Edited by: GFLTorque on 11/04/2005 14:12:38 Originally by: Celticjim ......... For whatever reason, then not, then came back. Can you happen to recall who the first CEO was of SW? Perhaps a name might trigger my memory. CJ OC left around November 2003 (Specter may remember). We voted in Setenta, PMAS, and Kirousha (spelling is fubared here) in the next group. That third would have been Kiroshi Group, which eventually merged with Setenta. -D Proposal for Overhauling Manufacturing.
Arthur Guinness	Posted - 2005.04.12 06:40:00 - [41] If you're lucky i can dig up a map of the ore allocation in stain from around september 03, that'd would be a complete list of SA corps and SA trials. I wont publish the map, but if i find it i'll provide a list of corps :D Just hope it's somewhere on my laptop. From memory this should be approx the list: MASS Omega Corp Everlasting Vendetta Collective Solar Wind Interstellar Elite Old Fars Hooded Monks (our neighbours back then ;) Redemption Inc (after they split from OC around aug 03) Setenta that's what i remember to be SA around september 2003.... damn long time ago.
Digiblast	Posted - 2005.04.12 22:05:00 - [42] I belive oc left early in Desember 2003 not september, think it was 1-2 weeks before the big pathc back them. Stain Alliance just made a new map for the alliance and Oc didn't like loseing the T-nn system or the systems around them, so they disagread and then the little cival war began, 2 weeks later the hole point of that war was gone ccp Took all the Bistot and made hole stain Paralized for months hopeing to get the ore back but nothing came! While thinking about it i just find it amuzing!
Celticjim	Posted - 2005.04.12 22:25:00 - [43] Thanks Arthur, Digi. Appears to be right. I used to have that map, but have lost it due to the many comp reformats over the last 1.5 yrs. Will probably send you an eve-mail as well Arthur. Thanks again CJ
GFLTorque	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:11:00 - [44] Originally by: Arthur Guinness If you're lucky i can dig up a map of the ore allocation in stain from around september 03, From memory this should be approx the list: MASS Omega Corp Everlasting Vendetta Collective Solar Wind Interstellar Elite Old Fars Hooded Monks (our neighbours back then ;) Redemption Inc (after they split from OC around aug 03) Setenta Heya Art. LTNS GFL was in that group, MTG before it dissolved, and LGI or was it Legionarri was a psuedo trial also. But the last 2 never made it to membership. 4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
spangle monkey	Posted - 2005.04.15 09:15:00 - [45] Rumour has it that BPC are now leaving and becoming some lame logistics corp. Early news so will need to check the facts with peng methinks
infinity	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:20:00 - [46] Originally by: Kayosoni COL left SA once to retreat to empire to make more battleships after we killed them too much, and then rejoined. We did not leave SA and we did not leave A2- because u guys did blow us to much up. We actully did have verry few loses in that war. The problem was corp issue and issue with stain not u guys. We actully did respect oc more then stain at that time. And if u dont remamber then Collective was i think the only corp who voted against OC to leave. And for the record me and inflateble teen where the first pilots to bring BS into stain to fight. it was 2 armageddons wich we had fitted with Heavy beams and did need to w8t a long time to get Large guns on em :) It was a fun time and only a day after m00 got there first bs (Dominix) if i remamber right where the first bs ingame to fly in space.
Xerxes Ceasar	Posted - 2005.04.15 14:43:00 - [47] The first corp i joined - Golden triad had offices in the southwest of stain, cant recall the system names now. I remember RUS frequently was there too, that was before the SA-CA war. Also Solar wind had offices there. Golden triad dissolved just some months after the release of EVE and the reamains where merged into Everlasting Vendetta. Xerxes
dalman	Posted - 2005.04.15 19:46:00 - [48] Edited by: dalman on 15/04/2005 19:57:54 Lo Celtic. Well, 'original SA', kinda depends on how you define that, as things were a mess in the beginning. What you probably would count as the original stabil SA is the list that has already been submitted (and maybe you have the territorial map of it). If you want more info on the start(at which time I was not in SA); Members from COL and X2K (=interstellar elite) who met IRL started to discuss it and their CEO's then convinced Trigger that COL, MASS and IE were to form this alliance. A bit of useful info can be found here: (hmm, will I be spanked for linking to this :?) http://www.eve-i.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=eve1&Number=8384&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1 NOTE: that post was made by (whatever his name was, the CEO of M3G4) after his corp was kicked out by force. Hence that post is 1. NOT CORRECT and 2. Highly biased. A bit of info on corps: Corp X - merged with MASS IE - whole leadership quit the game, much later reformed, then merged. Hooded Monks - kinda defunct then merged into one of the BOB corps. Golden Triad, Fear, Quick Profit Agency, 31st Wrecking Crew - defunct. I'm not sure if X-traders ever were members, although they had dealings with SA. And what status M3G4 and m0o ever had, I don't know. If Oberon ever were full members they'd pretty much be the oldest stain corp (though they were missing for a veeeeeery long time). Someone asked about 'GFL in 'GFL Torque'. That's from his first corp, Galactic Foreign Legion (sp?) I think... And Kayo, ffs stop your moaning about COL. Do you still not know there were very serious plans about a huge merger between COL, MASS and other corps? Those movements you talk about were made as a build up for that, but needless to say the plans were never put in action. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Stan Bowman	Posted - 2005.04.15 20:00:00 - [49] Kayosoni has anime on the brain, hard to believe all that was so long ago. We were around when OC left. Thats when OTC corp joined them in the C4 allience and only then were you even in the picture kayo. hehe. Oh ans Species was born from SGE
Kayosoni	Posted - 2005.04.15 20:13:00 - [50] Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/04/2005 20:13:31 COL were the best fights we ever got. I just can't get over how they left and then came back :P Oh who am I kidding, I LOVE THE SMACKTALK! and stan, you guys were only in the picture at that time as well :P ----------------------------------- Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server
Stan Bowman	Posted - 2005.04.15 20:15:00 - [51] So? lol
Kayosoni	Posted - 2005.04.15 20:26:00 - [52] btw, what is wrong with anime, huh?! ----------------------------------- Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server
DarkZaion	Posted - 2005.04.15 22:18:00 - [53] Edited by: DarkZaion on 15/04/2005 22:18:38 Originally by: Kayosoni btw, what is wrong with anime, huh?! nufin.. they are great! naruto fan here
eXeCt	Posted - 2005.04.15 23:20:00 - [54] Edited by: eXeCt on 15/04/2005 23:41:57 Originally by: Kayosoni Edited by: Kayosoni on 11/04/2005 20:25:59 Solar wind retreated to jita for a year and a half because of us. GG. Emmm, whatever Not going to discuss it anymore, cause I know we have a totaly different point of view.. It's history anyway eXeCt
Celticjim	Posted - 2005.04.16 01:10:00 - [55] Here I am...merrily minding my business, starting to organize notes, then Dalman shows up ...just when I thought I had it down. Thanks guys...I really want to do this right, some wont' find it interesting, but I do. That period for me was some good fun, politics were a little more simpler, and the "newness" factor was still there. Oh well, little bit more organizing now to do. CJ
TRIGGER	Posted - 2005.04.16 01:26:00 - [56] 31st wreckin crew , tc and mass formed . 31st wreckin crew then became interstellar elite about 1 week after the alliance was formed . we allowed m3g4 into stain space to "hide" and agreeed if they were ok wed take em onboard . Smoked(ceo) had probs with a few of his trigger fingered buds and they were booted . oberon were official members of sa and so were x traders (both damn honourable corps too) hmmi are still with us and doin good legionari were italians and were members but then went inactive i dont know many exact dates tbh jimmyboy but all the intels in my blue box . for more mail me ingame with q's and ill answer them for ya
Celticjim	Posted - 2005.04.16 16:33:00 - [57] Will do Trig.....ty CJ
MaxPower	Posted - 2005.04.16 20:05:00 - [58]
Ugly KidJoe	Posted - 2005.04.19 00:40:00 - [59] Originally by: Masta Killa IGS = Intergalactic Serenity. If I remember correctly that is. SE is pretty stable atm, the corps that were new-ish when we ran the show are now doing a pretty good job of maintaining Stain without us. should be not really hard to be stable when mass/collective have left the boat. drunken ideas from iceland meeting and fleetcommanders who ignores commands to not attack FA stations for fun ... the dreamteam were a dictatorshipment which poked regulary in every weekly meeting all membercorps. the first bill came when the rares were gone away. no need for many corps to stay and get poked weekly in this dirty game. just check the timeline to get that confirmed. one question, why the dreamteam leadershipment including razil never went gold for their warplans against FA ? that SA not allied with CA against FA was only because of the always younger corps that were only a number in the whole alliance games from the dreamteam.
Bared Bel'Medar	Posted - 2005.04.19 01:08:00 - [60] Well, in November (the peak of SA power) I remember Omega Corp (to be ejected shortly) Setenta Kiroshi Group Galactic Foriegn Legion (god I miss these guys) Everlasting Vendetta MASS Redemption, Inc Hooded Monks Solar Wind (Napalm is practically a swear word to me though) The Collective Interstellar Elite Inter Galactic Serentity Pegasas Mining and industrial (PMAS) Deep Space Unicorns Eternal Silence (might be wrong on this one) Second Wave, Inc Old Farts Storm Guard Elite Those who would join shortly were Stronghold (we gave them **** jobs, to thier credit, they only put up with it for a short while, but did it) Tyrell Corp I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer...

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