Braben's last project (also much heralded by the clueless BBC) turned out to be vapourware;

He's had 20 years to do something with Elite via his gaming company (235 employees);

He doesn't appear to want to put up -ú1.25m dev costs despite being well able to do that via his company or his personal wealth.

He wants YOU to do that.

This is nothing more than a vanity project and any of you who pony up cash are morons.

Braben has had his day and so has Elite.

Somehow, and it could be that I've become a massive cynic, but this idea is doomed as soon as the next WoW expansion comes out.

Sorry but been through this too many times and too many times have my hopes being knocked down.

Besides, Eve is a damn good game, the Elite sequel would more likely ape EVE than EVE apes Elite.

Somehow, and it could be that I've become a massive cynic, but this idea is doomed as soon as the next WoW expansion comes out.

Sorry but been through this too many times and too many times have my hopes being knocked down.

Besides, Eve is a damn good game, the Elite sequel would more likely ape EVE than EVE apes Elite.

I'll need to see a little more than a single logo picture before backing.

I wish them well. It has zero chance.

Braben is an extremely intelligent man who has built a successful business and kept it going and expanding in a terrible economic climate - the tech industry in the UK get **** access to credit, has no government incentives or subsidies and has to pay better salaries and more tax/contributions than other nations. He's done very well to keep them running and growing year on year.

He's a Cambridge grad, a very well connected individual with going on 25 years experience in the gaming industry and is involved in a great many tech projects nationally. Including the phenomenally successful Raspberry Pi project. Of which he is a founder and trustee.

Frontier: Elite II was written in quarter of a million lines of assembler code and blew everyone away with the first real use of polygon graphics, anywhere, ever. It had the entire milky way procedurally generated and included amazing **** like seamless planetary/space transition. Something even Eve can't do.

Every single Elite title was screwed with by the publishers. Braben is way too savvy to go down that road again. He's been nagged daily for almost 15 years to make Elite IV. He's never committed himself or his business to it. He is being completely sincere when he says Kickstarter offers an amazing way to not only get support for an independent project, but to also guage the level of interest in and the market viability of such a project.

To come on and say 'it has no chance' shows how misinformed you are tbh. This man knows his **** and has spent a lifetime, probably longer than you've been alive, building and delivering profitable games.

The project has already hit -ú350k in 3 days. It will easily meet its target of $2m. Nobody knows better how to design and deliver Elite IV and he is the past master of procedural content and tech + game design. For these reasons, and many more, I pledged my money. I know I won't be disappointed.

Actually had the pleasure of a chat with Mr. Braben on more than one occassion and he's always said that he wanted a single player game with multiplayer elements to lead to a full blown mmo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mrrNlml4Ibk

Did he metion EVE at all? What he thinks of it?

I was concearned in the pitch that he doesnt even seem aware of the last 10 years of space MMO development.

He seemed dead excited when he said "It's going to be MULTIPLAYER!" - Like he'd just come up with a new concept.

It didnt sound like he's looking to do an Elite MMO at all.

This was before Eve. I don't think its appropriate to comment on a ten year old conversation in relation to a new project tbh. Wouldn't be fair. Here's how he's thinking tho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iTBvpd3_Vqk

You can see the benefit of a bloody good education in this sort of stuff.

sounds like they're borriwing a shitton of stuff from eve thoguh

Anyone who loves space games - and I am assuming thats all of us - REALLY ought to make a pledge and get this game made. Braben is the Grandfather of space games and without him I really don't think EvE would be here.

Looks like space sims are coming back!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous

Support it! Over half way done!

Tempted to lay -ú5k on this, just to meet David.

Take a ship and 5000 credits to make money legally or illegally - trade, bounty-hunt, pirate, assassinate your way across the galaxy.

Elite will have BILLIONS of star systems (via procedural generation) and players can alternate between the following modes:

Single player

Multiplayer locked to just people you choose

Multiplayer open to all players

Billions of star systems is what I would expect from a simulated galaxy. In contrast eve-online's hardware limited universe with only a few thousand systems.

I am in for -ú80.

I want to see the game made.

Started off enthusiastically backing.

Read this by Braben.

"What I want is the sort of game that you play with PVP enabled, so players can kill other players, but it happens only very rarely."

Withdrew funding.

Think that quote is out of context with the intention of the game. Here's the text from right at the top of the Kickstarter page:
"Take a ship and 100 credits to make money legally or illegally - trade, bounty-hunt, pirate, assassinate your way across the galaxy".

David Braben is just concerned about excessive griefing.

Perhaps.

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/12/24/elite-dangerous-david-braben-interview/

Is risk less pvp fun though? You can just roll back to a "save position" if you loose.

Also this http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3022 . 32 player maximum multiplayer.

Not for me.