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Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:23:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:[rasist kid,
not sure which i object to more. you incorrectly calling me racist, or the fact you can't even spell the insult.
now, your idea is bad that when called on it you're so upset that you have to out of the blue call people racists. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:37:00 -
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Locked for cleaning and great justice. CCP Falcon -á-á||-á-áEVE Community Team -á|| -á-áEVE Illuminati -á || -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1902
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Posted - 2012.11.11 20:33:00 -
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Elvis Fett wrote:There are multiple arcade-like space MMOs out there. .
And EVE is one of them.
Don't be fooled by a needlessly complex control system. Space War was a more realistic space sim than this.
Not judging. Just pointing out a common error.
Mr Epeen  There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1610
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Posted - 2012.11.11 20:53:00 -
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Just by saying you've been playing since 2007 you have, in a sense provided a base for comparison which has gone against your own idea. You do realize that there's not many, or even no MMO out there that has the amount of "old players" (as in people as old as you) as Eve? The most important aspect for all MMO is player retention, even with non-subscription based MMOs. Infact MMOs life solely depends on it, no matter how many subs the game has, or how big is the hype when it's released, it doesn't matter when the players are gone the next year, or the year after.
Eve Online is the strongest in this aspect, it has been stated numerous times on many different articles and gaming sites that Eve's the only MMO currently in existence that has managed to reach this level of player retention; some say Eve's even the only MMORPG that has kept growing in subscription rate since it was first released due to this. So no, a big spike on new subscription is not necessary, it's even the worst thing that could happen if it sacrifices the one aspect of the game that made people keep playing and keeps coming back to the game.
How to : 100% safe-á& undocked in Eve Online. |

YuuKnow
Inner 5phere
425
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Posted - 2012.11.11 20:57:00 -
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Who cares if Eve has more subscribers? Just make a good game and the rest will follow. Quality will ensure longetivity. Cheap, easy gameplay will cause Eve to look just like the other flash in the pan MMOPGs that die quick.
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Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions Dec Shield
2046
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:07:00 -
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Nobody said we want these people in our game. This obviously includes CCP, else the game would be a lot different.
Is it hard to understand that they might not want every random guy to be part of our universe ?
I don't think so. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1610
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:13:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote: more arcade style with less hardcore aspects but some fresh game content, game which offer more instant fun and action i play eve to avoid having to play with morons who want to play whack a mole type games. let them play dust and rename it "call of duty #3345 futuristic warfare" its ok, i appreciate it, i like this fact to , where i can play alone in silence and sink into EvE word, but would be better if our community grow and would be cool if login scren show 200.000 - 400.000 people online. quality > quantity. hence i disagree with everything you have said so far in this thread. Why you are so egoistic... Use logic, 75kw power supply serwer cant be online for few people forever, If you want stay here until 2015 or longer better pray for more subscibers. The logic here is this; The hardcore aspects is what made us keep playing this game, there are so much to explore and to try out in Eve, it'll take years to try them out to an extent that we actually can say "i've been there, done that"; heck, it'll take more than a decade to train all the skills on a single profession tree (as in either combat or industry).
Ok now, say CCP 'lessen' the hardcore aspects of this game, to make it more playable to target a wider range of player subs, so basically making the game just like any other themepark MMO out there; say Eve got 50k new subs just by this, what happens next? more or less you're asking for instant or at least quick gratification for a shorter playing time, like most other MMOs. Then what happen if people get bored quicker because of it, just say in a year or two; that's a fair assumption on the average lifespan of players on most other MMOs. CCP will have a harder time to keep up with this, next year they'll have to come up with a major thing, maybe panda-in-space expansion? like 'that' game? just to keep up the player circulation high enough. Who's gonna pay for the servers then? if somehow they can't release something fancy enough to pull in enough new subs since they can't depend on player retention from old players who kept playing this 'hardcore' game? How to : 100% safe-á& undocked in Eve Online. |

Zoe Issier
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:14:00 -
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Slow and steady wins the race quality/sub retention/costomer suport/emersion/evolving game play
eve has all these its one the resones there are so many 10/9/8/7/ vets still around
if ccp are short of cash y they put cash in two other games and hire more ccp employes eve is the bread and butter for ccp and seems its doing pritty good if ccp can do side projects
as long as eve doesnt become to dumbed down it will keep most its player base and keep steadly growing |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:25:00 -
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I'm sure if you could come up with an Iron Clad plan to get EVE to 200K login CCP would do it and tell anyone who didn't like it to kiss their ass. |

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
77
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:9 years of growth. Yeah, that stopped being true quite a while ago. |

Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:28:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Nobody said we want these people in our game. This obviously includes CCP, else the game would be a lot different.
Is it hard to understand that they might not want every random guy to be part of our universe ?
I don't think so.
Tell 'em Solstice! CCP has dust for instant gratification players and WoD for the panda-bear types, they're trying to reach other types of gamers but they know the answer doesn't lie in New Eden. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
993
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:47:00 -
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CCP is already on the case by slowly turning highsec in to a PvP-free wonderland over time in the hopes that no one will notice. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:50:00 -
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Troof, he speaks troof. I'm still in denial about it though.  |

Ammzi
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
1061
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Posted - 2012.11.11 21:52:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:
its ok, i appreciate it, i like this fact to , where i can play alone in silence and sink into EvE word, but would be better if our community grow and would be cool if login scren show 200.000 - 400.000 people online.
No, it wouldn't be cool. Stfu you ******* scrub holy **** and go back to wow. While I sometimes kid when I say this I am bloody serious on this one.
Holy **** you moron. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:03:00 -
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Whoa dude, chill. |

Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
82
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:14:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:
its ok, i appreciate it, i like this fact to , where i can play alone in silence and sink into EvE word, but would be better if our community grow and would be cool if login scren show 200.000 - 400.000 people online.
No, it wouldn't be cool. Stfu you ******* scrub holy **** and go back to wow. While I sometimes kid when I say this I am bloody serious on this one. Holy **** you moron.
You are very emotional.. What your doctor is saying ? new Pills ? |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
993
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:15:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:
its ok, i appreciate it, i like this fact to , where i can play alone in silence and sink into EvE word, but would be better if our community grow and would be cool if login scren show 200.000 - 400.000 people online.
No, it wouldn't be cool. Stfu you ******* scrub holy **** and go back to wow. While I sometimes kid when I say this I am bloody serious on this one. Holy **** you moron.
Actually that many people online would be pretty cool. More people to steal from.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:15:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote: Why you are so egoistic... Use logic, 75kw power supply serwer cant be online for few people forever, If you want stay here until 2015 or longer better pray for more subscibers.
Can someone from CCP accounting confirm that the electrical bill from the server park is killing EVE? I propose a PLEX drive for server power cost!
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Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
82
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:16:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Part 1 Things in EvE agains new players in general.
Ok here we go, EvE compared to other games isn't so much newbi frindly and we know this.
Long therm to get basic of game, big space, proffesions, to hardcore game content that is very cool and mindblow for new gamers but in fact they are under pressure of this, in general endeles skill training etc.
Meny things that force players to be part of big community and things that push people to socialize with other, while some players prefer solo game style. Not so friendly community to people who prefer pve - carebear game style, however i understand EvE is place where people focusing on kiling other and (haresment other) just becuse game mechanic (wars) EvE offer to much grief it self even this sound wired, EvE is designed to be brutal place with own rules, but is ok, wars are core of pvp and no need to change this. However some people hate if somone force them to change own play style because of wars etc.
Part 2. Things against old vetarans and hardcore long them playing people.
While here so much hardcore old gamers who love EvE meny of them are bored with big, but in fact not growing game content, even if in EvE here a lot cool thing to do, after few years people get bored form ordinary task and they know almost everything about EvE, so they stop playing like before.
As you see here two factors that give negative impact on two group of people, new and old EvE gamers.
To get more subscibers and active players EvE need evole to more arcade style with less hardcore aspects but some fresh game content, game which offer more instant fun and action than big (strategy) space simulator where people, need to spent hours long while fiting prepare to pvp, and spent years while planning own game goals etc. EvE is cool and i love this game i play since 2007, here my few cents about my view on Future of EvE and some things against average players database.
Meny people who read my post wont agree with me, just because they hardcore old forum warriors who spent more time on forum than in game, they care more about "likes" and wired therads caled "rate my space sim avatar above you" than at EvE it self.
Ps. Sorry for my grammar.
Fly safe.
Well its good idea. There is only one problem.. Money ! You need Money Money Money. To provide anything new to Eve. And I think CCP well...
Btw. Cheers that topic isn't locked yet. And its very odd and strange ! |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
993
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:16:00 -
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Pohbis wrote:baltec1 wrote:9 years of growth. Yeah, that stopped being true quite a while ago.
Number of subscribers has continually grown over the past 9 years.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
82
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:19:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Pohbis wrote:baltec1 wrote:9 years of growth. Yeah, that stopped being true quite a while ago. Number of subscribers has continually grown over the past 9 years.
Oh rly ??? Where is the PROOF !!! CCP isn't posting that data ANYMORE !
hah ! |

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
77
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:31:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Pohbis wrote:baltec1 wrote:9 years of growth. Yeah, that stopped being true quite a while ago. Number of subscribers has continually grown over the past 9 years. Suuuuure, I guess that's why CCP stopped the "Only MMO to grow continously since launh" marketing about a year or so ago 
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Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:39:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:
what's so hard to understand i don't want to play a game with utter mongoloids? if ccp need more cash to pay the bills then they can put the subscription fee up.
If I'm reading this correctly, you're suggesting that the other 7.5 billion people on the planet are utter mongoloids. That's a bit pessimistic don't you think?
Quality is greater than quantity as a statement is based on the production of goods. The more goods that are produced in a period of time, the less room for quality control and the greater chance that those goods will be produced using less quality assurative methods. It does not apply to people in general. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |

Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:43:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:To get more subscibers and active players EvE need evole to more arcade style with less hardcore aspects but some fresh game content, game which offer more instant fun and action than big (strategy) space simulator where people, need to spent hours long while fiting prepare to pvp, and spent years while planning own game goals etc. EvE is cool and i love this game i play since 2007, here my few cents about my view on Future of EvE and some things against average players database.
So to translate what you have said without the needless verbiage:
1. I love EVE as it is. 2. I want EVE to be something completely different. 3. I believe that will attract players.
How does "No" sit with you?
EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |

Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:58:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Dave stark wrote:
what's so hard to understand i don't want to play a game with utter mongoloids? if ccp need more cash to pay the bills then they can put the subscription fee up.
If I'm reading this correctly, you're suggesting that the other 7.5 billion people on the planet are utter mongoloids. That's a bit pessimistic don't you think? Quality is greater than quantity as a statement is based on the production of goods. The more goods that are produced in a period of time, the less room for quality control and the greater chance that those goods will be produced using less quality assurative methods. It does not apply to people in general.
It's not that they're mongoloids, it's that they're very stupid. Are you really prepared to say that most people you meet from day to day AREN'T really stupid? I know I feel that way... (my perspective may be bias as I live in Oklahoma).
Also, did you really just tell us we can't apply the idea of quality>quantity to EVE? Is it complicated? We'd rather EVE not grow than grow because a lot of 14 year old WoW players joined. If you've got an idea as to how CCP could reach more niche players who would actually enjoy EVE as it is, not as other games are, we'd all love to hear it. |

Nex apparatu5
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
383
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Posted - 2012.11.12 00:10:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Mars Theran wrote:Dave stark wrote:
what's so hard to understand i don't want to play a game with utter mongoloids? if ccp need more cash to pay the bills then they can put the subscription fee up.
If I'm reading this correctly, you're suggesting that the other 7.5 billion people on the planet are utter mongoloids. That's a bit pessimistic don't you think? Quality is greater than quantity as a statement is based on the production of goods. The more goods that are produced in a period of time, the less room for quality control and the greater chance that those goods will be produced using less quality assurative methods. It does not apply to people in general. It's not that they're mongoloids, it's that they're very stupid. Are you really prepared to say that most people you meet from day to day AREN'T really stupid? I know I feel that way... (my perspective may be bias as I live in Oklahoma).
To be fair, I live in Seattle and the majority of people I run into on the streets/at restaurants/bars etc are so stupid it makes me wonder how we survived this long as a species.
Not all 7.5b other people are mongoloids I'd say only like 7b are, the other 0.5b are fine. 1 in 15 is about right from my experience. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2779
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Posted - 2012.11.12 00:17:00 -
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Pohbis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Pohbis wrote:baltec1 wrote:9 years of growth. Yeah, that stopped being true quite a while ago. Number of subscribers has continually grown over the past 9 years. Suuuuure, I guess that's why CCP stopped the "Only MMO to grow continously since launch" marketing about a year or so ago  The last numbers even showed a few non-seasonal dips. The trend didn't change I guess, or we'd still see those numbers posted in the marketing bursts.
They announced a new record high in subscribers not too long ago. |

Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
49
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Posted - 2012.11.12 00:33:00 -
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Dave stark wrote: whack a mole
I take it you take a break during Hulkageddon then, because that phase sums up the whole event pretty well  I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service. |

Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.11.12 00:38:00 -
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You shouldn't pander to one side or the other. You should create an environment where both the hardcore and casual can do what they want.
Oh wait, we already have that.
Don't let the two sides intolerance of each other fool you into thinking big changes need to be made. |

Galaxy Pig
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.11.12 00:40:00 -
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Sounds like someone exploded horribly in a hulk. ^_^ |
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