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Gunship
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Posted - 2005.04.17 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Gunship on 29/04/2005 23:45:17 Edited by: Gunship on 29/04/2005 23:45:00 Edited by: Gunship on 29/04/2005 23:44:02 No offence against any of all the player made boards, but it seams a little strange that something that we all use and enjoy in one way or another can't be made by CCP and automatically entered (if they don't already have all the stats in there database).
Perhaps TomB's stats are not that good after all 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.04.17 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gunship we all
That's the reason right there. "We all" don't use them. Some of us actually don't give a rats ass. ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.04.17 09:43:00 -
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If we get an official CCP killboard, I expect non-pvp'ers will get there own e-peen measuring implement.
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Yolan
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Posted - 2005.04.17 09:52:00 -
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I think its a good idea. If all player kills and losses were automatically entered on the killboard we would have none of the 'We killed more than you' bull that we see everyday on these boards
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.04.17 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
Originally by: Gunship we all
That's the reason right there. "We all" don't use them. Some of us actually don't give a rats ass.
all pvpers out there want a reliable killboard, all i have to do is read your alliance tag to realise why u dont.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.04.17 09:55:00 -
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yay im next to one of max' flames i feel special ------------------
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.04.17 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Beringe
Originally by: Gunship we all
That's the reason right there. "We all" don't use them. Some of us actually don't give a rats ass.
all pvpers out there want a reliable killboard, all i have to do is read your alliance tag to realise why u dont.
All you do is flame - shouldn't you be getting more warnings for persistent trolling?
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.04.17 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 17/04/2005 10:09:15 added 2 and 2 together josh my friend. fight fire with fire so to speak, if you bothered reading his post. 
point is, other games have stats of individual players, eve doesnt even though it would be good to have the stats. why cant ccp do it if others can
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.04.17 10:25:00 -
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A) This isn't CS.
B) Not all PvPers care about killboards.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.04.17 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: SengH on 17/04/2005 10:41:12 Edited by: SengH on 17/04/2005 10:40:06 LOL this thread sure degenerated quick... i forsee that this thread will make the t2 flame retardant suits melt. We might need t4/t5 suits for this thread. Well thats if the moderators arent working sunday ... otherwise IBTL.
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog A) This isn't CS.
B) Not all PvPers care about killboards.
Thats why 80% pvp corps have there own...
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Xendie
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:03:00 -
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and he says it like the FOE killboard is perfect  i read somewhere that they were missing 200 losses that they didnt want to post. nice to flame others pvp performance and killboards then.
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:06:00 -
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if the ppl who get the kill mails post then it dont matter if the death mail was posted or not.
Killboards r great to look at,see what ppl r up to,see hotspots,weapons/ships/gang size ect,get sum good tactical info out them aswell as the pressure for ppl wanting to fight more to get more points.Public killboards ftw aslong as every 1 posts as far as i can see its not a problem If all ppl post kills then there deathmails dont need posting.
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:25:00 -
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Well a public killboard could be seen as giving a way to "win" this game. People will be trying to become the person who has the most kills. You will get a bunch of exploiters making alts with the free trails and shooting them to get more kills.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:29:00 -
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I would prefer not to see a CCP killboard... I don't play this game to count kills, even though my corp does keep a killboard.
If they ever did implement one, I'd hope it was optional if you participated.
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Akaviri Well a public killboard could be seen as giving a way to "win" this game. People will be trying to become the person who has the most kills. You will get a bunch of exploiters making alts with the free trails and shooting them to get more kills.
thats why there is a points system added.
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Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:42:00 -
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HOW ABOUT THIS:
A CCP Killboard, WITHOUT ranking tables.
To have (all) your kills and losses complied you have to opt in. On top of this, for those individual chars stats to be compiled into corp stats, the corp must opt in too (CEO decides).
That way you carebears can continue to lie about how well you are doing, and the real PvPers can back up their claims with cold hard numbers.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.04.17 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 17/04/2005 11:44:16
Originally by: Xendie and he says it like the FOE killboard is perfect  i read somewhere that they were missing 200 losses that they didnt want to post. nice to flame others pvp performance and killboards then.
hahaha alts 4tl. thats the whole point ffs, an official one everyone is involved in would mean there is no way to escape it. You seen the xetic killboard recently? theres is far more innaccurate, but hey lets pick on foe
and fyi, i post all kills and deaths i get, so S T F U.

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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.04.17 12:09:00 -
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TBH despite the fact that we religiously use the BoB killboard I think I'd be against having an official CCP board.
Things are fine as they are.
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Rodney Munch
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Posted - 2005.04.17 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog A) This isn't CS.
B) Not all PvPers care about killboards.
CS doesnt have an official "killboard" or way of measuring your rank etc. Thats only when you wish to enter your team into leagues.
Secondly most games are going down this route, of an official way of recording how well your doing in a full on PvP game.
World of Warcraft is implimenting a system (still being tested) that allows you to go up and down ranks according to how many PvP kills you have, and it looks VERY good. As you progress up the ranks you open up new rewards, such as new unique items and other stuff that shows that you are at that rank. You also get a title, such as warlord etc.
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PreTender
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Posted - 2005.04.17 12:20:00 -
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if all players use the same killboard (*cough* http://killboard.eve-extra.com *cough*)
losses and kills will berecorded
so if you add a killmail the victem will get a loss recorded __________________________
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.04.17 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: PreTender if all players use the same killboard (*cough* http://killboard.eve-extra.com *cough*)
losses and kills will berecorded
so if you add a killmail the victem will get a loss recorded
doesnt work that way. Alot of people dont care about killboards which will make all killboards less accurate. If ccp made a killboard that added your kill/loss to the board without you doing anything this problem would be solved i think.
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AnalogCapitalist
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Posted - 2005.04.17 15:58:00 -
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You can solve this easily by adding a MD5 checksum to all killmails, and a tool on the official website for verifying the checksums.
That way you cant modify killmails and those whose existence hinges on how many killmails they have at least have accurate ones.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2005.04.17 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 17/04/2005 11:44:16
Originally by: Xendie and he says it like the FOE killboard is perfect  i read somewhere that they were missing 200 losses that they didnt want to post. nice to flame others pvp performance and killboards then.
hahaha alts 4tl. thats the whole point ffs, an official one everyone is involved in would mean there is no way to escape it. You seen the xetic killboard recently? theres is far more innaccurate, but hey lets pick on foe
and fyi, i post all kills and deaths i get, so S T F U.

alts dont have 15mill skillpoints
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nemtrex
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Posted - 2005.04.17 16:34:00 -
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CCP killboard would be so sweet... killboard.eve-online.com *drool*
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SageOfMystery
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Posted - 2005.04.17 16:54:00 -
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imo a killboard only works for the parts of your team that have big guns on, Covert ops ships and tacklers dont get as much love so it would be hard to display truly accrate stats, but it would be a good idea if they really wanted to do it its not liike if you dont like the killboard you have to pay attention to it.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.04.17 16:57:00 -
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that doesnt matter too much, because they are recognised within their alliance/corp/community for doing that kind of thing
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Gunship
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Posted - 2005.04.17 18:17:00 -
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It was not really my intent to start a flame fest, but just to point out that I and others would like to see more stats, kills since I like to PvP would therefore be top of my list.
100% reliable and impartial would be key and CCP are the people to do this.
IÆm sure even some Xetic members would like such a system and perhaps there could be stats for number of ore mined per minute, size of wallet or number of agent missions completed if thatÆs what the none-PvPÆers would like?
EVE is a game; and like other games stats plays an important part, CCP for one love to talk about 10000+ players in the same world. I real life stats are also common, just look at the amount of stats you can get from an NBA or NFL game. European footballs (or soccer for the US) also have no end of stats.
So why is an official kill board such a bad thing to ask for?
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.04.17 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: zincol
Thats why 80% pvp corps have there own...
Great blanket statment. Number pulled out of ass, and probably not even close to the mark.
80%? Why not say something truly outrageous, like 99.99%? Just to make sure that we understand that, you know, every single PVPer just wants the world to know how many kills he has.
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Xenu
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Posted - 2005.04.17 19:19:00 -
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62% of statistics are made up on the spot. |
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