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ShadowStarZero
Smile just smile inc
1
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Posted - 2012.11.16 10:01:00 -
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Extend it too -100!
Smile just smile! |

Every One
Omni Galactic Resource Excavation Inc. Tri-Star Galactic Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.11.16 10:45:00 -
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I can't believe my eyes
Pirates who cry about being pirates.
Apparently they enjoy poding and popping up ships, but they also wanna go to high sec to flame in Jita and to show off their wanted bounty.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
24
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Posted - 2012.11.16 10:58:00 -
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I see -10 people flying through high sec all the time, in all sorts of ships, they just don't auto pilot, and don't hang around gates. Unless you fly into Concord space while -10, if you have ok faction standings, I'm not seeing the problem? And if you have it from FW, don't fly into the hostile factions space? It's almost as if you are at war with them and they know it.... |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
227
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Posted - 2012.11.16 11:00:00 -
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Being a pirate isn't about being -10 and living in low sec, it's about making living from killing and ransoms. Simply living in low sec and doing pewpew in and of itself makes you a pvper (nothing wrong with that ofcourse), not a pirate as such.
Thing is that most of the profitable options for piracy are in high sec space as that's where the fat, expensive and easy targets are. Can flipping, mission busting and even wardeccing can be seen as piracy if the outset is to make profit off of it and as you normally don't make much profit from killing another PVPer and it generally also a lot more dangerous it doesn't make much sense for a "true" pirate to engage those targets.
If you mean that low sec is useless and either empty, blobbed or littered with the occasional hotdrop bait then yes you're correct, there's ways for CCP to change this but it would require a massive overhaul on certain things which aren't actually directly related to piracy or even PVP, and because of that it'll never happen. Amat victoria curam. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
710
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Posted - 2012.11.16 11:01:00 -
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OP, are you trying to say there is no challenge in ganking industrial ships, haulers, and rookie frigates? Say it ain't so! |

AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
153
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Posted - 2012.11.16 11:20:00 -
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Oregin wrote:The -10 punishment is pretty crap and not in a 'well it's reasonable and just and keeps me on my toes way'.
Simply being unable to enter highsec in anything that can't evade concord is not fun, doesn't help 'protect' anyone in highsec and simply makes what is, in my opinion, the best bit of EVE (lowsec living and piracy) a logistics nightmare, rather than a risk/reward issue.
I'd argue that -10's should be let freely into highsec without concord intervention and, while we're at it, remove the different steps in this 1.0-0.5 highsec blacklisting altogether. I can see the idea behind it... keep the scum out of the best suburbs... make them drink in the 0.5 sec cantinas on the edges of civilised space.. yaddah yaddah. But in reality, it doesn't take a hell of a lot for someone to find themselves relegated to a tiny section of space. People quickly get the reaper badge in concord's eyes but in reality, the real 'undesirables' in EVE are the spammers in Jita, not the happy-go-lucky-lowsec-scamps.
Let the -10's enter highsec and risk being shot at?
They want to move that domi? Let them, and let them sneak the damn thing out. It'll make resupply possible (if a bit awkward when they'd obviously have to avoid key market systems in the name of discretion and safety). All the while, everyone else gets to have a go at them: vigiliante justice, that's EVE!
Let them try and flog their spoils, let them move their assets and let them mission if they like! Let them face the risk rather than face certain death at the hands of the faceless gods that make bounty hunting an impossibility.
Let's give the cloaky recons a job to do and let people gatecamp lowsec entrances like the empowered carebear paladins that they want to be!
Let's see noobs scramble to get involved in -10 grabs.
Let's see the true colours of the -10s as they bait and switch those eager beavers who try to take them on without knowing about the hidden logistics and secret ploys.
For God's sake CCP, let us play in the sand.
Thats actually the best idea ive read in a long long time. It makes allot more sense to me. If you are -5 or below you automatically get gate gun aggro in high sec and anyone can attemp to pop you at -10 if they choose, you cna only pop back once they have engaged and concord stay the hell out of it.
Keep in line with the police yourself message being passed around right now and the safety button mechanic stops it from being abused when newer players are involved.
Fiscal Fisting, Amarr Militia Corp Recruiting Now - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2019004#post2019004 -á
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1496
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Posted - 2012.11.16 11:22:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:OP, are you trying to say there is no challenge in ganking industrial ships, haulers, and rookie frigates? Say it ain't so! What the OP is trying to say is that play styles have become so polarized between the peeveepees and the peeveeyees that there's really no one to shoot aside from the occasional rookie who drops in by accident. The only combat between players that happens is either when the poor miners/haulers, as you've pointed out, die in high-sec, or when two herds of sheep collide in what is essentially a prearranged null-sec conflict.
This wasn't always the case. There used to be a time, before incursions, FW plexes, and Drakes in C3 wormholes, when people actually went to low to mission, mine, and manufacture. Back then, piracy was an actual profession, and being an outlaw meant something. All it means today is that you have half a million skill points in destroyers and frigate weapons.
I don't think you'd understand or care either way, unless you played back then, or at the very least do any meaningful pvp (ie, not just showing up to a 0.0 op once every three weeks to earn your right to farm the belts and 6/10s) today. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
569
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Posted - 2012.11.16 12:53:00 -
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Low sec gate campers generate as much content and high sec and null sec gate campers
About zero
People that produce ships and modules and structures however do. To some degree they control the tears. Can't cry over your lost Titan fleet if no body had the skill, time, resources to build them
Sitting at gates an popping haulers and cyno ships is not creating content.
Raising sec status for entry back into high sec is the flip to your easy life style. No one cares if that sends your characters to the biomass bin. Loved breaking that news to you.
Enjoy reroling a fresh character
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1496
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Posted - 2012.11.16 13:16:00 -
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You're dumb. No one's going to re-roll to get out of about 7-10 hours of work. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1783
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Posted - 2012.11.16 13:33:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:dethleffs wrote:post with your main.
Get over it. Get over it with your main. and all your alts are belong to us |

Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
256
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Posted - 2012.11.16 14:18:00 -
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Confirming no one in tundragon has the same thoughts this guy does.
Too much "waiting for PvP to come to you" and not enough "going out to find PvP" is what makes piracy boring. Bored?
Jump into high and gank a badger that's carrying a hulk
Or roam, which currently is pretty uneventful but likely will get more interesting with retribution FW and crimewatch changes |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1496
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Posted - 2012.11.16 14:45:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:Or roam, which currently is pretty uneventful but likely will get more interesting with retribution FW and crimewatch changes It's probably going to have the opposite effect. Now that FW has been money-nerfed, activity is probably going to shrink to just a sliver of what it was during the peak plexing months.
I guess that means no more stabbed Incursus kills. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2012.11.16 14:52:00 -
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Hey OP, you CHOOSE to make -10 happen. Everything else is just white noise.
0/10 |

flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
427
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:03:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:I personally know NOONE that regrets even one podkill. Hell - most pirates would pod themself - AND punch little kittens in the face.
Post with your main or GTFO :-)
Mmmm well , i didnt want to pod kill that dude yesterday because we had an OP going on wich required me to be able to fly through 1.0 in a big ship.But then he jumped to a safespot and stayed there for 5 minutes while i was thinking 'your ships down gtfo of low-sec dude '.
Needless to say i scanned him out to show him that it was not a 'safespot' and podded him in the hopes he learns from it.And then i couldn't go on the OP any more.Wich should learn me once again , do not touch the pod even if you rrrrrrrrreally want to.
So now you know someone who regrets having made a podkill ....
On the topic , been -9.9 a few times in my eve career and i HATE grinding sec stat back up so now just occasionally jump into low again but try to keep my sec stat above -2.5 if possible. There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
198
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:12:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:I personally know NOONE that regrets even one podkill. Hell - most pirates would pod themself - AND punch little kittens in the face.
Post with your main or GTFO :-) Mmmm well , i didnt want to pod kill that dude yesterday because we had an OP going on wich required me to be able to fly through 1.0 in a big ship.But then he jumped to a safespot and stayed there for 5 minutes while i was thinking 'your ships down gtfo of low-sec dude '. Needless to say i scanned him out to show him that it was not a 'safespot' and podded him in the hopes he learns from it.And then i couldn't go on the OP any more.Wich should learn me once again , do not touch the pod even if you rrrrrrrrreally want to. So now you know someone who regrets having made a podkill .... On the topic , been -9.9 a few times in my eve career and i HATE grinding sec stat back up so now just occasionally jump into low again but try to keep my sec stat above -2.5 if possible.
Nice to meet you :-)
Well in such a long carrier you probably have seen it all.....twice
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1571
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:21:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Generals4 wrote:You do realize negative security statuses aren't there to add content but rather to punish you for criminal acts? Actually, we produce more content than most people with +10. You seem to know a lot about sec status, tell me more about this 'content' of yours TK is recruiting |

Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:22:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Bienator II wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:dethleffs wrote:post with your main.
Get over it. Get over it with your main. and all your alts are belong to us
except for the real Rick James |

Malen Nenokal
HEX Reconnaissance and Reclamation
7
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:25:00 -
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Working as intended. Welcome to Buccs Den. |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1571
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:26:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Nice to meet you :-)
Well in such a long carrier you probably have seen it all.....twice I looked at all the carriers and i couldnt figure out which one you meant.
Did you mean the Archon? TK is recruiting |

flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
427
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:27:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:flakeys wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:I personally know NOONE that regrets even one podkill. Hell - most pirates would pod themself - AND punch little kittens in the face.
Post with your main or GTFO :-) Mmmm well , i didnt want to pod kill that dude yesterday because we had an OP going on wich required me to be able to fly through 1.0 in a big ship.But then he jumped to a safespot and stayed there for 5 minutes while i was thinking 'your ships down gtfo of low-sec dude '. Needless to say i scanned him out to show him that it was not a 'safespot' and podded him in the hopes he learns from it.And then i couldn't go on the OP any more.Wich should learn me once again , do not touch the pod even if you rrrrrrrrreally want to. So now you know someone who regrets having made a podkill .... On the topic , been -9.9 a few times in my eve career and i HATE grinding sec stat back up so now just occasionally jump into low again but try to keep my sec stat above -2.5 if possible. Nice to meet you :-) Well in such a long carrier you probably have seen it all.....twice
Nice to meet you too , and though i did a lot of things double/tripple i hardly seen it all.Could name a shitton of things i did but there's stil SO much in eve to be discovered.Never lived in a wormhole for example ...
That's the great thing about eve , you're never done learning and there's so many people you can help to see the potential of the game . There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |

flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
427
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:28:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Nice to meet you :-)
Well in such a long carrier you probably have seen it all.....twice I looked at all the carriers and i couldnt figure out which one you meant. Did you mean the Archon?
He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......
Man i love momma jokes . There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1571
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:32:00 -
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flakeys wrote:He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......
Man i love momma jokes . When i get home tonight me and your mother are going to have a serious talk about your attitude TK is recruiting |

Karrl Tian
Yarrbusters
39
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:33:00 -
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Generals4 wrote:Tiggerban wrote:Its not eve hard mode, its not fun, and its definitely not worth it.
More and more I see my fellow negative 10 pilots slowly resign themselves to raising their sec status back to positive because being -10 conveys absolutely nothing to the eve experience.
You do realize negative security statuses aren't there to add content but rather to punish you for criminal acts?
I dunno, having to suddenly deal with being hunted by NPCs when I went above a certain security level counters as adding "content." Going from ignoring frig camps in lowsec to having to dodge them like in null seems like added content.
Destiny Corrupted wrote:Warde Guildencrantz wrote:Or roam, which currently is pretty uneventful but likely will get more interesting with retribution FW and crimewatch changes It's probably going to have the opposite effect. Now that FW has been money-nerfed, activity is probably going to shrink to just a sliver of what it was during the peak plexing months. I guess that means no more stabbed Incursus kills.
And yet bears will still claim all of lowsec is insta-death camps because they flew a hauler through Rancer/Amamake that one time. |

flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
427
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Posted - 2012.11.16 15:33:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:flakeys wrote:He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......
Man i love momma jokes . When i get home tonight me and your mother are going to have a serious talk about your attitude
Dad ? Did you buy yet another toon on the character bazaar?
Ow i'm SO grounded now .... There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |

G01kur Kisel
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.11.16 16:00:00 -
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According to fanfest 2012, if they chose to implement the changes they mentioned there they said that you wont be able to get -10 if you explode ships only if you pod kill. That way you will still be able to access highsec and still be a pirate more or less. Not sure if that would put back som fun for you or not but at least something. |

Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance
5
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Posted - 2012.11.16 16:20:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:flakeys wrote:He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......
Man i love momma jokes . When i get home tonight your mother and i are going to have a serious talk about your attitude
^^ Cockney slang deciphered into proper English.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
938
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Posted - 2012.11.16 18:28:00 -
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Tiggerban wrote:Its not eve hard mode, its not fun, and its definitely not worth it.
More and more I see my fellow negative 10 pilots slowly resign themselves to raising their sec status back to positive because being -10 conveys absolutely nothing to the eve experience.
Because there's no serious consequence or advantage for the choices you've done at some point.
Actually getting -10 it's as easy as taking some alts in shuttles and pod kill them all with smartbombs. Yay....important stuff...
As easy as it is to camp some gate with other friends and kill everything passing through without much of consequence than get a couple shots on your shields easy/fast remote while waiting for the next one jumping in to activate your guns.
Then what? - nothing, you can move in high sec without serious consequences, you can even buy battleships and get them by yourself in to low sec without loosing them (unless other organised players shoot at you), you can board whatever ship and gank with exactly same Concord response than someone else...so what's the point?
What's the point of being -10 player? (none) Does it gives some sort of hidden buff or advantage? (none) Serious consequences?- lol consequences yes, serious consequences no.
brb |

Tornado Bait
Douchingtons
1
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Posted - 2012.11.16 18:57:00 -
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I agree that some people like -10 life as it stands now.
The point of my post was to relay basically how I am feeling about low sec and -10 living now after having been here for more than a year and a half.
more and more it turns into probing mission runners or using arty tornado's on people on station, and I am sure that gets some people off. However for me Its getting old.
Roaming 30 jumps for pvp just burns people out especially if you don't end up finding anything or die.
The grey area for pvp is shrinking considerably and now its either big blobs going at it or playing lets gank the raven doing missions.
Boring.
Also i don't consider people who camp gates with smartbombing bs or camping gates with 20 absolutions 5 guardians and assorted t3's to be pirating in sense of the word i'm refering to. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10698
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Posted - 2012.11.16 19:08:00 -
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Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:flakeys wrote:He was refering to your mom's ass i think ......
Man i love momma jokes . When i get home tonight your mother and i are going to have a serious talk about your attitude ^^ Cockney slang deciphered into proper English. The 'I', should have been a capital. Just saying.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10698
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Posted - 2012.11.16 19:18:00 -
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Tornado Bait wrote: Also i don't consider people who camp gates with smartbombing bs or camping gates with 20 absolutions 5 guardians and assorted t3's to be pirating in sense of the word i'm refering to.
That's your opinion. But if you are killing, ransoming and making money at it, it's pirating. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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