Funny thing though, Goons had their freighter full of Zydrine reimbursed when someone popped it in low.

Is there something I should know about your account?

Also a lot people atack freigters just for lulz.

Gratz, thread derailed.

It's still about a freighter full of Trit being ganked in High Sec for no other reason than to smother everyone out of the game.

Or countered.

So you`ve seen the balls up close then. Please then tell us what you`ve already said one more time, with your mouth full, 400 mil gank, is able to push down 1.5-5 bil ship in high sec just for lolz.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17641147

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17644123

And these are only a couple of lolz killz :D. I don`t feel sorry for them. Ppl should fly only things they can afford to loose. But still a 400 mil gank vs 1.5 bil, the rates don`t match.

I bet baltec does.

To some degree but EVE is an old game and has a very bad reputation for being full of antisocial misfits. Like you.

You damage EVE when EVE needs new blood. You are selfish. You could be in any 0.0 sec doing roams, not to take Sov, just for PvP. No, you chose to sit in one system and exploit human flaw and ruin a game for others. You won't be missed. You won't be welcome in any other MMO either. They would put you out on your ear in the blink of an eye.

You twist EVE in to something it wasn't supposed to be. A place with a complete lack of common sense or dignity.

Keep your stuff. Donate it to one of the people you griefed.

No
You hide behind this illusion that EVE is going to become some evil carebear incarnation of itself.
It will be Hello Kitty and Trammel and all this other alarmist, drama queen nonsense. All to justify antisocial behavior in a virtual world because you lack fundamental empathy required to see you are wasting someone elses time.

Don't let the door smack you in the ass.

No
Never
Goons have never taken a ship from me and they won't.
This is about empathy. About seeing the frustration they cause other people. I know it's unimaginable in a game like EVE but it really isn't about me.

What would make your corp return ganking barges again?

Pirates were shot on sight.
You fail to see the point in High Security space.

You are a pirate? Why are you there?

Let me be more specific.

How much - in terms of ISK would a mass suicide gank event require per average mack killed, considering losing the gank boats, selling the drops etc? IE what's the "deficit"?

I am thinking about sponsoring some Hulkageddon revival but the expense has to be within a budget.

And I still make more sense than you, clinging to this half baked idea that EVE can work when people don't use self control to restrict the damage they do. I'm out numbered here, being ganked in to the ground and while I do care, not enough to fight battles CCP have chosen not to fight.

If it's OK with them, it's OK with me. You still missed the point in me debating you. Maybe EVE is healthy as a horse. If so, carry on. Maybe this is what they want.

i'm not so sure.

mining barges needed rebalancing, regardless of hulkageddon and ganking. also the crucial difference is that an EMPTY exhumer was profitable to gank. is an empty freighter profitable to gank?

there are some subtle but important differences.

I am fully aware that is not against the rules so the use of the word "exploit" was probably misleading.

What I meant is that being able to bump a freighter with a ship the size of a spec of dust is quitely frankly ludicrous and it's this game mechanic that needs looking at.

I'm not in any way suggesting making hi sec 'safer' or stopping anyones fun who wants to shoot things.

yes, however to gank most of those other ships you need something other than a 14 day old character in a catalyst.

i doubt you'd be able to take down an untanked damnation with the same setup. could you?

I really hope the Devs are reading this.

You clearly don't appreciate how fucken stupid that sounds.

Jita is a different bag of bolts.
They don't gank there for a reason. More Sentry that hit a lot harder and instant response from concord. EVE has always been in gross favor of offense over defense. I was looking at one of the kills and 6 guys took down a Providence. They even scrambled it so as to disrupt the warp. The thing with a freighter is, you can take 90 seconds to get to warp out but if you lose your wapr status you drop to near 0 speed almost right away. It's also what makes bumping so good. Bump and it isn't that it breaks the alignment, it's that it kills your speed climb back to stand still.

Goons are exploiting very old mechanics. Plain and simple.

Don't politic me.
You are sploiting.

i'm impressed this waterfall of tears is still flowing.

[quote=Powers Sa]

Sorry CCP, I lost all faith tonight. The blob just has too much projection. We can't stand up to it. I surrender.

My corp and I recently encountered a group of suicide gankers. Knowing we needed to move a freighter ourselves we explored several options.

1. Make sure the cargo was only a couple (2-3) billion worth in goods.
2. Avoid known hot spots according to kill boards.
3. Escort the freighter with scouts.
4. Bring along a few ECM ships to try and minimize the incoming damage.
5. Pay attention to local for anyone that is known to be with suicide ganker gangs.

In the end we still lost the freighter to a log on trap. When the frighter landed on the gate a suicide gang was landing on it from all directions and did not come from any of the other systems, we know because we had scouts in all directions. When they landed they engaged and forced our freighter to jump the gate or die. We tried to ECM some, but they had far too much DPS. And of course the other group was on the other side of the gate to finish off the freighter, logging in as well.

So kindly take all your advice on how these things are avoidable and shove them directly up your basement dwelling fat ass!

I QUIT!

I doubt that .. just too many psychos and sociopaths :) I have better ways to spend my money :)
btw .. who do you think are paying the plex with real money ? The causual gamers you don't want in this game or you .. these all sooooooo hard and tough and 30cm rider of doom and peril gangsters sitting infront of you pc 24h a day ? :) Without real money and not isk .. the problem will solve anyway in a year or two :) So bye bye .. enjoy our stay as long as it lasts :)

Could change Nijara and Uedama to 0.9.

why should he keep playing for your pleasure. and for all others who also get their jollies from blowing up unarmed ships in high security space? it doesnt matter if concord kills ships that participate in attack. damage is done and risk has been calculated. also it doesnt matter if you have scouts and escorts cos your freighter will still get popped with huge alpha dps.

lastly. you say if people would haul less they wouldnt get ganked. i call bullshit. if everyone would start doing that people would still gank them just because "lol its so funny to blow up highsec carebears and ruin someones day" besides losing one BC per head is hardly much anyone needs to grind for isk and get new and go gank some more..

This is just a ploy to get more frighters carrying 10bil+ worth of goods.

Touch+¬ powers.