All the old players made swarms of alts. They don't seem to realise it's self-destructive as they are destroying the "ecosystem" of EVE by marginalising the new players.

In all fairness, I learned most about the gaming running the tutorial missions and asking questions in rookie help. If I could not find answers there, I googled what I was looking for and I'd usually find an answer. I pretty much had all of the basic stuff down within the first 2 weeks. I still didn't join an actual corp until like a week or 2 after that. I wanted to make sure I could learn as much as I could on my own. Plus, I was working on the basic core competency cert so I could fit my ships. Not for tech 2 stuff but at least meta 4s. I'm currently working on my tech 2 fitting now.

I too believe in 3 month old alts with 5000 likes as being "New players"

I also believe in fairies......

Positively. fly what you have trained for.



Yes, this is the vet mentality. "Why didn't this guy just ask me for help?"



Was never an ignorant window licker. Always asked if I didn't know. Always learned from mentors and vets. I actually have friends that will help me out if lost.


Now, you've really lost the plot with the personal attack here.

You're saying I despise people that undock in ships they can't fit / fly yet as they are in a rush to be a body on the battle field (objective, 100% to **** up the overview).

Wrong. I "Despair" and "pity" them for having no one to help them suggest the correct ship to bring to be useful.

People that push words into others mouths end up with no teeth. You're probably well aware of this mind you.

haha Wow you're really starting to pop that vein out of your forehead lol

What a reply.

"Window licker" isn't a personal attack??

Dude bottom line you're some anti-social, pimple faced ginger whose only achievement in life is being a "somebody" in a virtual world and unfortunately talking down to and degrading others is the only way for you to sustain this Pixel Pride you have.

You're a ******ing lameass and you unfortunately make veterans look like a bunch of neckbearded, booger-eating virgins.

Quit getting your enjoyment from being a complete tool and learn how to walk tall without needing to step on someone else.

Just out of curiosity, how long does one need to have been playing for to be classed as 'old'?

How many of these, "I'm a new player and I suck at this game so it must be the fault of all the older players" posts do we get tin the forums these days?
Far too many that's for sure. You came here because this isn't WoW and then you complain because it's not as easy as WoW or whatever FPS you grew bored of. Please play and excel at EvE as it is and pretty much has been for 10 years. If you don't own all of null-sec within a month maybe you should adjust your goals or playing style.
This whole "I'm so worried about the new players" lie is boring also, just admit you suck at EvE and you want to make it easier for yourself.

How many of these, "I'm a new player and I suck at this game so it must be the fault of all the older players" posts do we get tin the forums these days?
Far too many that's for sure. You came here because this isn't WoW and then you complain because it's not as easy as WoW or whatever FPS you grew bored of. Please play and excel at EvE as it is and pretty much has been for 10 years. If you don't own all of null-sec within a month maybe you should adjust your goals or playing style.
This whole "I'm so worried about the new players" lie is boring also, just admit you suck at EvE and you want to make it easier for yourself.

One of the Problems with the way the game is setup for new players is they want you to specialize to become good at one thing. The problem comes in that your character is way more "powerful" if they can fly many different things so when an FC says we need more X you can be like i can fly X and switch over. Instead of well i can only fly slasher's and then your FC either has to fit you in to their sniper fleet somehow or come up with another concept or you are basically out there with your ass hanging in the wind with no support.

Power in the game comes from Generalization in practice. New players are often encouraged to train "Support skills" Which are general skills. So the way the game is designed and the way the game plays are at odds with each other and the new player suffers with confusing messages and indicators that they are doing it wrong.

Myself i decided i don't like the Skill que game and now i train skills randomly, because i came to the conclusion i can either let my lack of skills hinder me from having fun or i can just have fun with my corp who excepts whatever i fly regardless of how well i fly it.

But prior to my decision about Skills it was easily the most frustrating part of the game I dreaded whenever my skill que was less then 24hours.

To me a lot of vets are irritating. They see themselves as important in a game so they use their "status to talk down to new players in an effort to make themselves feel more relevant. It's extremely lame to me. It's similar to how old people IRL talk rap about the younger generation to boost themselves because they failed at life, meanwhile they have the new Iphone 5 being delivered in the mail...the times must not be all that bad, eh?

2: Who do you think invented the technology that makes the new Iphone 5 possible? Hint: It's not the younger generation.

You're welcome.

Who do you think will invent the technology that makes all our inventions obsolete? hint its not us.

I started in 2007 and I, too, feel like an old man, sitting on the campfire and telling the kids my stories about old times. Feels weird.

But, EvE is not a casual game and the new players who actually stay in the game for longer are a real benefit to the game. Here we can assume they are open for shifting their mind and adapt, go new ways, think before acting etc. Those who do not survive the first time, wouldn't be of any benefit at all.