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Big doggy	Posted - 2005.04.25 04:45:00 - [1] Well, I must say it's been going very well. Last night alone we destroyed eight mining barges in empire and gained a nice assortment of loot. Also, as we went along we picked up volunteers to add to our gang. Two people paid us isk to help our cause and one person gave us ships and missles. A good time was had by all.
Ainsy	Posted - 2005.04.25 04:48:00 - [2] I wonder how long it will take for the targets to dry up...or wise up.
Dexus	Posted - 2005.04.25 04:51:00 - [3] how do you guys boost your security status? 0.o lvl 4 missions?
Dexus	Posted - 2005.04.25 04:51:00 - [4] Edited by: Dexus on 25/04/2005 04:51:56 ah that was me (dexus) stupid alt =/ edit: dam did it again, my mains Kirex if you need the truth
Miner's Bane	Posted - 2005.04.25 05:06:00 - [5] Edited by: Miner''s Bane on 25/04/2005 05:06:32 While I have no particular love or concern for the people you're killing, your forum announcments are stupid. Do what you do and be done with it. Stop attention whoring - few people actually care. ------------------------------------------------------------------
MooKids	Posted - 2005.04.25 05:17:00 - [6] I still think this is one of the dumbest griefing campaigns yet. What was the point again? -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Necrologic	Posted - 2005.04.25 05:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Big doggy Well, I must say it's been going very well. Last night alone we destroyed eight mining barges in empire and gained a nice assortment of loot. Also, as we went along we picked up volunteers to add to our gang. Two people paid us isk to help our cause and one person gave us ships and missles. A good time was had by all. Wait, you are shooting fish in a barrel and only got eight? Get 25+ in one sitting and people might actually care. _______________________________________________________ Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram.
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.25 05:29:00 - [8] alt corp..yay.. B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Kuolematon	Posted - 2005.04.25 05:45:00 - [9] Originally by: Big doggy A good time was had by all. Yeah I bet that! Those barge players must had you convoed and told you how much fun they had when you spoiled their game while they were doing their own stuff. I hope someone finds out your main and gives you same "fun". .. oh and on the other hand you pie-rats whine how prices are going up because noone is mining low end minerals anymore. Your just helping to cause inflation and shortage on mineral supply. Be proud for affecting WHOLE EVE! _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions. (\_/) (x.x) This is what's left of Bunny, the rest tasted delicious.
Ayaka Komatsu	Posted - 2005.04.25 05:55:00 - [10] Take an eco class. Level 4 missions are causing "inflation" by printing billions of ISK, every day. Mineral prices have already hit their NPC-imposed celing, so quit threatening pirates with economic retribution when CCP has already declared that Soviet Eve will not have trit above 3.15 a unit. ---- Why is it so easy to steal ore ?
Kuolematon	Posted - 2005.04.25 06:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Ayaka Komatsu Take an eco class. Level 4 missions are causing "inflation" by printing billions of ISK, every day. Mineral prices have already hit their NPC-imposed celing, so quit threatening pirates with economic retribution when CCP has already declared that Soviet Eve will not have trit above 3.15 a unit. And there we go again. You pirates take always this lvl4 dilemma. You cried and they were just nerffed. Now all carebears are in low sec space.. go and kill 'em. CCP have provided you tools to kill people! And what comes to economy being ****** up, well yes but back in lvl3 mission days, same could have been done. And not all is able to solo lvl4 missions easily so .. _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions. (\_/) (x.x) This is what's left of Bunny, the rest tasted delicious.
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.25 06:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Kuolematon Originally by: Ayaka Komatsu Take an eco class. Level 4 missions are causing "inflation" by printing billions of ISK, every day. Mineral prices have already hit their NPC-imposed celing, so quit threatening pirates with economic retribution when CCP has already declared that Soviet Eve will not have trit above 3.15 a unit. And there we go again. You pirates take always this lvl4 dilemma. You cried and they were just nerffed. Now all carebears are in low sec space.. go and kill 'em. CCP have provided you tools to kill people! And what comes to economy being ****** up, well yes but back in lvl3 mission days, same could have been done. And not all is able to solo lvl4 missions easily so .. B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.04.25 06:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Miner's Bane Edited by: Miner''s Bane on 25/04/2005 05:06:32 While I have no particular love or concern for the people you're killing, your forum announcments are stupid. Do what you do and be done with it. Stop attention whoring - few people actually care. Actually quite a few people find it quite amusing. or at least care enough to reply And if CareBears will hide in empire mining veld I say wp to anyone prepared to kill them Typherin Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
MadGaz	Posted - 2005.04.25 06:38:00 - [14] hooray for disposable alts ------------------------------------------
Arcticblue2	Posted - 2005.04.25 07:03:00 - [15] Originally by: MadGaz hooray for disposable alts Actually that is a bannable offence stated by CCP... So if any you can create an alt but you can't delete it if it can't fly into high sec.... But I still doubt BD's statement, he have only killed one Kestrel as far as I know.... (checking eve-kill) and his corp is not even listed there... Still thinks this is just Ashley's and Dog's way of trying to get some fame..... what a shame! ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. 13:11
Xav Vorbarra	Posted - 2005.04.25 07:57:00 - [16] Edited by: Xav Vorbarra on 25/04/2005 07:58:09 rofl, Soviet Eve. this place has to be one of the most capitalistic societies ever
Matthew	Posted - 2005.04.25 08:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Typherin laidai And if CareBears will hide in empire mining veld I say wp to anyone prepared to kill them Typherin It's not about hiding in empire. It's that sitting in empire and mining scord and other low-ends is more profitable than trying to get the mid-range ores (jasp, hemo and hedb). Just take a look at the markets, especially in and around the hub systems, and look at the levels of demand for trit and pyer. Then tell me how you expect this level of demand to be met by anything but strip-mining barge teams. This demand is being generated by the producers, who need it to produce all the stuff you find on the market. Stop carebears mining in empire, and the mineral supply for the empire producers dries up. Shortly after that, the supply of ships and modules on the market will dry up. Then you'll see inflation at levels that will make you beg for the current situation to return. People will not relocate these operations to low-sec space as there simply isn't enough infrastructure out there to support it. Shooting up miners in empire space might be amusing, and popular in certain circles, but it won't be doing the community as a whole any favours in the long run.
Hella May	Posted - 2005.04.25 09:02:00 - [18] Edited by: Hella May on 25/04/2005 09:03:00 Originally by: Ayaka Komatsu Take an eco class. Level 4 missions are causing "inflation" by printing billions of ISK, every day. Mineral prices have already hit their NPC-imposed celing, so quit threatening pirates with economic retribution when CCP has already declared that Soviet Eve will not have trit above 3.15 a unit. Im already selling trit above that level :) Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.04.25 09:40:00 - [19] Originally by: Matthew Originally by: Typherin laidai And if CareBears will hide in empire mining veld I say wp to anyone prepared to kill them Typherin It's not about hiding in empire. It's that sitting in empire and mining scord and other low-ends is more profitable than trying to get the mid-range ores (jasp, hemo and hedb). Just take a look at the markets, especially in and around the hub systems, and look at the levels of demand for trit and pyer. Then tell me how you expect this level of demand to be met by anything but strip-mining barge teams. This demand is being generated by the producers, who need it to produce all the stuff you find on the market. Stop carebears mining in empire, and the mineral supply for the empire producers dries up. Shortly after that, the supply of ships and modules on the market will dry up. Then you'll see inflation at levels that will make you beg for the current situation to return. People will not relocate these operations to low-sec space as there simply isn't enough infrastructure out there to support it. Shooting up miners in empire space might be amusing, and popular in certain circles, but it won't be doing the community as a whole any favours in the long run. /emote resists the urge to flame ^Actually thats just wrong for many reasons Quote: Then tell me how you expect this level of demand to be met by anything but strip-mining barge teams DCM II Apoc Teams - better than barges Quote: Then you'll see inflation at levels that will make you beg for the current situation to return. Am I the only one that would like to see losing a battleship as a big thing ? Atm its more of a case of "NaffMonkeys ... gotta pay for the insurance again" Quote: Shooting up miners in empire space might be amusing, and popular in certain circles, but it won't be doing the community as a whole any favours in the long run I see no problem with increasing prices. and in fact its not like people will see a difference. They all pwn level 4's in empire for no risk anyway Typherin Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Matthew	Posted - 2005.04.25 10:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Typherin laidai Quote: Then tell me how you expect this level of demand to be met by anything but strip-mining barge teams DCM II Apoc Teams - better than barges So basically, it's ok to strip-mine in empire as long as it's in a ship that can't be suicide-attacked by a 10-day-old alt in a frigate? Originally by: Typherin laidai Quote: Then you'll see inflation at levels that will make you beg for the current situation to return. Am I the only one that would like to see losing a battleship as a big thing ? Atm its more of a case of "NaffMonkeys ... gotta pay for the insurance again" Well, then maybe you should address your grievance at the insurance system for that one It would also be nice if fighting with battleships felt like you were pounding on big-ass targets that could take serious punishment, rather than the current system where ganka setups rule and most fights are over in less than a minute. Besides, this wouldn't just be an issue of battleships costing a fortune - it would be nigh-on impossible to actually find one. You'd likely be forced to mine for your battleships, as that's the only way sufficient minerals would be avaliable. BYOM deals and BPC's would take over from the market. Originally by: Typherin laidai Quote: Shooting up miners in empire space might be amusing, and popular in certain circles, but it won't be doing the community as a whole any favours in the long run I see no problem with increasing prices. and in fact its not like people will see a difference. They all pwn level 4's in empire for no risk anyway Typherin Again, it's not so much the increased prices, they're more a symptom than the real problem, which would be lack of supply. Imagine a situation where a thorax is as hard to find as a deimos. Finding even tech 1 mods would become a mission all in itself. In this sort of situation, you'd see most people being forced to become part-time miner/producers just to keep themselves supplied. I admit that this is the extreme of what could happen, and hopefully the community as a whole can show enough fortitude and ingenuity to avoid such a downward slide, however much certain elements try to push towards it.
Xendie	Posted - 2005.04.25 10:01:00 - [21] so good that something works for you waywatcher
Tenashi	Posted - 2005.04.25 11:11:00 - [22] basicly this is just griefing... shoot barges with an alt and whine like a baby that prices keep rising, god ur brilliant Everlasting Vendetta - Search
Keta Min	Posted - 2005.04.25 11:29:00 - [23] this is me caring: 35F6A7 this is me not caring: B05C72 this is me now: B05C72
Kael D'Astrovo	Posted - 2005.04.25 11:30:00 - [24] Waaa Waaa Waaa... The beauty of Eve is that you can be anything... we choose to be terrorists... live with it or let me have your stuff on your way out. __________________________ Main Entry: terÀror Pronunciation: 'ter-&r 4. violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government
Shirei	Posted - 2005.04.25 11:34:00 - [25] Originally by: Hella May Im already selling trit above that level :) Then you are selling to very dumb people since it is possible to produce virtually infinite amounts of Trit without any work at that price.
Matthew	Posted - 2005.04.25 11:46:00 - [26] Originally by: Kael D'Astrovo Waaa Waaa Waaa... The beauty of Eve is that you can be anything... we choose to be terrorists... live with it or let me have your stuff on your way out. Yes, the beauty of Eve is that you can be anything. Including someone who complains about what you do at every oppourtunity. By being a terrorist, you do something you know will annoy people. Either live with the resulting complaints, or don't slow down to give me your stuff on the way out Originally by: Shirei Then you are selling to very dumb people since it is possible to produce virtually infinite amounts of Trit without any work at that price. I assume you are referring to the method of buying items off NPC's and refining them? If so, I'm curious how you can make "virtually infinite" amounts without buying up enough to trigger the NPC price increases.
Pyr8	Posted - 2005.04.25 11:46:00 - [27] Interesting topic, not so much the pirating barges but more the economics. If you look at the game as a whole, wotever happens there is always econimical balance. As an example, lvl4 mission runners make copious amounts of isk and reduce the amount of miners... but there will come a point where there will be so much more profit in mining even low end minerals (as there is starting to at the moment) that the lvl4 mission runners will start to mine to make even more profit... People that need Isk will always take the shortest safest and quickest route to making it(mining)... just human nature! I say let people play the game as they wish, thats the beauty of this game, what will happen will happen!
Pehova Mindtriq	Posted - 2005.04.25 12:00:00 - [28] Originally by: Big doggy Well, I must say it's been going very well. Last night alone we destroyed eight mining barges in empire and gained a nice assortment of loot. Also, as we went along we picked up volunteers to add to our gang. Two people paid us isk to help our cause and one person gave us ships and missles. A good time was had by all. Who are you and why are you posting that you got 8 kills?
Scorpyn	Posted - 2005.04.25 12:15:00 - [29] Originally by: Keta Min this is me caring: 35F6A7 this is me not caring: B05C72 this is me now: B05C72 2E2E2E3F
Turiel Demon	Posted - 2005.04.25 12:17:00 - [30] /me wonders the same as Pehova Mindtriq ------------ /me wants a restart firing after reload macro to save some effort when shooting at stations for hour after hour after hour... (EEEP! don't ban me!!!111oneoneone)

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