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GBBUTT
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Posted - 2005.04.28 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kael D'Astrovo Waaa Waaa Waaa...
The beauty of Eve is that you can be anything... we choose to be terrorists... live with it or let me have your stuff on your way out.
But what will you do when everyone else leaves EVE and only the terrorists are left? Like i can see all the Terrorist win jokes. but i mean what would you actually do? Cos eve's pretty big, and if you dont produce items when everyone leaves slowly you will buy all the items arround, and there wont be anything left.
Oh wait. i think thats called killing a game. heh knew there was a name for it.
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.28 09:04:00 -
[122]
Originally by: GBBUTT
Originally by: Kael D'Astrovo Waaa Waaa Waaa...
The beauty of Eve is that you can be anything... we choose to be terrorists... live with it or let me have your stuff on your way out.
But what will you do when everyone else leaves EVE and only the terrorists are left? Like i can see all the Terrorist win jokes. but i mean what would you actually do? Cos eve's pretty big, and if you dont produce items when everyone leaves slowly you will buy all the items arround, and there wont be anything left.
Oh wait. i think thats called killing a game. heh knew there was a name for it.
ROFL as if that will happen because of some bargekilling pirates.
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.04.28 09:21:00 -
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No its going to happen when flammers and pirates like you get your own way with the game.
The minority always shout the loudest.... and you guys shout flipping loud
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.04.28 09:39:00 -
[124]
Originally by: GBBUTT
Originally by: Kael D'Astrovo Waaa Waaa Waaa...
The beauty of Eve is that you can be anything... we choose to be terrorists... live with it or let me have your stuff on your way out.
But what will you do when everyone else leaves EVE and only the terrorists are left? Like i can see all the Terrorist win jokes. but i mean what would you actually do? Cos eve's pretty big, and if you dont produce items when everyone leaves slowly you will buy all the items arround, and there wont be anything left.
Oh wait. i think thats called killing a game. heh knew there was a name for it.
YEY .. if everyone leaves can I have their stuff 
In fact can I just have Stain 
Typherin Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant' |

Hella May
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Posted - 2005.04.28 10:01:00 -
[125]
Thing is Typherin laidai you might be a pirate or Pvper, and all respect to ya....at least you play a valid part in the game.... but the other guys podding unarmed players in 1.0 space is just lame.
Waywater and his mates need to have some guts and try become real pirates. Or try real pvp.
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.04.28 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hella May Thing is Typherin laidai you might be a pirate or Pvper, and all respect to ya....at least you play a valid part in the game.... but the other guys podding unarmed players in 1.0 space is just lame.
Waywater and his mates need to have some guts and try become real pirates. Or try real pvp.
I quite agree .. but you said 'Pirates' ... our way is we want more ppl in low sec. these guys are killing barges for isk. nothing more. Barges carry some nice loot when you think about it... they cant fight back. and it only costs the price of a Caracal to pwn one.
And btw .. the empire ganking / griefer folk.. ARE NOT pirates.
Typherin Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant' |

Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.28 12:41:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Typherin laidai
I quite agree .. but you said 'Pirates' ... our way is we want more ppl in low sec. these guys are killing barges for isk. nothing more. Barges carry some nice loot when you think about it... they cant fight back. and it only costs the price of a Caracal to pwn one.
And btw .. the empire ganking / griefer folk.. ARE NOT pirates.
Typherin
I disagree, they are pirates.
I see pirates as players who take stuff that isn't theirs by either killing other players, extorting them or simply stealing it.
The fairness of combat or the lack of defences of the target have nothing to do with it other then it makes them a more likely target. If you go after harder targets you're more likely to lose money in the end.
The only criteria I have for 'real' piracy is that you don't use additional income to support your 'fun'. So no income from carebearing alts or missionrunning, but living of crime alone. Sadly very few people play this way because the penalties are too great and the penalties for playing in the 'grey' area aren't great enough.
I'm interested in your definition.
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RavensMask
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Posted - 2005.04.28 13:36:00 -
[128]
I say they take away ALT's out of the game and make players pay for another Account!
This way they will have to pay real money to do there crimes! 
Lets see how many of them do that.
Plus it helps pay for the game server to fix the small glitches it has.
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Buster Hymen
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Posted - 2005.04.28 13:50:00 -
[129]
*Enter Pirate Character Mode*
YARRRR! Be ye forewarned ye goodie-two-shoes scum, that me hauler now has a big bad boy 280 mm. The next one of ye scurvy dogs that tries to suicide kestrel me in empire after I relieve you of your ore is going to be podded regardless of the consequences.
YARRRRRR! *End Pirate Character Mode*
Jeesh. Have some fun will ya guys it's only a game for criminiy's sake? ______________________________________________
Won't you give to the Minmatar Orphans of War Charities? With your generous donation of ore or isk, we can reunite a Minmatar slave with his family. |

Virago
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:01:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Virago on 28/04/2005 14:05:02 *Enter Anti-Thief Mode*
Aye, to Davy Jones locker with ye!

*End Character Mode*
Now you have to admit, wasn't that fun the other night?
Strange thing, that I hate to post, but I have never gotten off more than two vollies without Concord getting me. I think I got off three vollies. Is Concord taking longer Quafe breaks? I've never lived that long before getting grapefruited. I thought I was going to get you.
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Berneh
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:15:00 -
[131]
Edited by: Berneh on 28/04/2005 14:16:40
Originally by: Hella May Thing is Typherin laidai you might be a pirate or Pvper, and all respect to ya....at least you play a valid part in the game.... but the other guys podding unarmed players in 1.0 space is just lame.
Waywater and his mates need to have some guts and try become real pirates. Or try real pvp.
WTF is your problem ? this barge popping noob is nothing to do with waywatcher and his mates .
------------------------------------------------ Proud Member of the lubed up fox Unbeliever makes me want to hold something close to my bussom |

MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:15:00 -
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I find it funny all the chicken ****s who use alts to say Big Doggy is Waywatchers alt, I've known the guy for over a year, hell a bunch of my corp even know him in RL, he doesn't use alts to scout, thats something some other (I wont mention names) corps do. ------------------------------------------
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Reash
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:16:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Hella May
Waywater and his mates need to have some guts and try become real pirates. Or try real pvp.
I assume you mean waywatcher by that? If so then as much as i hate him for been a a evil pirate i gotta set you stright and say he pirates fair and square and doesnt just fight industrials or mining barges, he fights battleships and anything else that happens to be around. I also dont think big doggy is his alt for a second.
------------------------------------------------- Defend Amarr space, join the Auctoritan Syndicate today |

Waywatcher
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:25:00 -
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I dont usually post on the forums as most threads are just flaming, but i feel i must set peeps straight on this matter....... Big doggy is not my alt, he has nothing to with myself and never has. I dont use alts at all infact so his noob actions are nothing to do with me........ thx folks Way out  |

RavensMask
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:32:00 -
[135]
Good going I know of 4 players that has left EVE and will no longer play do to lost of there stuff buy players like you!
Gone and will not play eve again is Sorbic, LordJay, Mays and Delvar.
Thats $450.00 per years EVE has lost and I am told there will be 20 more players that will no longer play.
Keep up the good work Big Doggy and the rest of your Friends you make all the EVE player look real good!
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Buster Hymen
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:49:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Virago Edited by: Virago on 28/04/2005 14:05:02 *Enter Anti-Thief Mode*
Aye, to Davy Jones locker with ye!

*End Character Mode*
Now you have to admit, wasn't that fun the other night?
Strange thing, that I hate to post, but I have never gotten off more than two vollies without Concord getting me. I think I got off three vollies. Is Concord taking longer Quafe breaks? I've never lived that long before getting grapefruited. I thought I was going to get you.
*Enter pirate mode*Aye it was fun! YARRR! Ye had me shields all the way down and me armor by about 15%.
It'll be funnier though the next time I shoot ye pod and Concord ganks me too. YARRR! *Exit pirate mode*
Have to admit though the ribbing was good natured from both sides and your corp guys took the loss of the ore rather calmly. For that, I thank you.
*Enter Pirate Mode again* YAR! But I ain't no carebear mate, we're not having any group hugs and cookies ... 
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Won't you give to the Minmatar Orphans of War Charities? With your generous donation of ore or isk, we can reunite a Minmatar slave with his family. |

Aomis
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Posted - 2005.04.28 14:53:00 -
[137]
Originally by: RavensMask Good going I know of 4 players that has left EVE and will no longer play do to lost of there stuff buy players like you!
Gone and will not play eve again is Sorbic, LordJay, Mays and Delvar.
Thats $450.00 per years EVE has lost and I am told there will be 20 more players that will no longer play.
Keep up the good work Big Doggy and the rest of your Friends you make all the EVE player look real good!
Time to end this Big Doggy. Just becouse you have found a way around game mechanics doesnt give you the right to ruin this game for people who find mining entertaining. You dont like mining? Fine, dont mine. You dont like miners? Fine, find them in 0.4 space and below. When people stop playing eve couse of your actions its time to call it a day.
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Buster Hymen
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:06:00 -
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I think that was doggy's point. Doggy doesn't have targets in 0.4 and below, so that's why he's shooting up empire.
The bigger problem I think is that it just simply isn't profitable for miners to go into 0.4-0.1 most of the time. I mean who goes there to potentially get shot at to mine fricken kernite, omber and jaspet???
Someone mentioned, and I think this is a great idea, that the volume on 0.1-0.4 ores like jaspet, hed, hemo, etc., should be reduced to provide miners incentive to return to those locations by making them much more profitable to mine and transport.
I think this is a fantastic idea, that would probably correct a lot of the issues people are having right now with pirates in empire. ______________________________________________
Won't you give to the Minmatar Orphans of War Charities? With your generous donation of ore or isk, we can reunite a Minmatar slave with his family. |

Virago
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:20:00 -
[139]
*Enters Anti-Thief depression mode*
You make me sad buster, you must have another suicide blonde in your life. My corp obviously doesn't mine. It was kinda funny how we met though, I was returning from a "dry" night in Jita, and low and behold, Thief "ribbing" in Local. As I watched with delight for the "donaters" to respond, so that I may interrupt your service, I was shocked to see no response. In fact, I was dizzy with excitement because I thought you had found a Macro Mining outfit, and this would have been delightful fun for the both of us. After your second or third attempt of ribbing, you then gave away the "donaters" and I was able to convo and find the location. Which I was depressed because they actually did respond (was hoping they wouldn't because this would have been evident of a macro mining op), I was able to persuade them to tell me there whereabouts. I then set my trap, like a cat .... sneaking....stealthing about.....then I saw you..in your...little hauler thing, and I SPRaNG! RAWR! ... SCRATCH HISS ! and Concord had to ruin the special bond that we had at that moment. I was hoping you would remember me....but....I guess I'm just another skeleton in your hangar.
*sigh*
I did have a good time "ribbing" with you. Most thieves are hateful. 
*Returns to real life bored at work mode*
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:24:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Jet Collins on 28/04/2005 15:28:30
Originally by: Buster Hymen The bigger problem I think is that it just simply isn't profitable for miners to go into 0.4-0.1 most of the time. I mean who goes there to potentially get shot at to mine fricken kernite, omber and jaspet???
I do :) But not in a Barge.
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:31:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Hella May on 28/04/2005 15:32:47
Originally by: Reash
Originally by: Hella May
Waywater and his mates need to have some guts and try become real pirates. Or try real pvp.
I assume you mean waywatcher by that? If so then as much as i hate him for been a a evil pirate i gotta set you stright and say he pirates fair and square and doesnt just fight industrials or mining barges, he fights battleships and anything else that happens to be around. I also dont think big doggy is his alt for a second.
I was refering to whom ever big doggys owner is. Bearing in mind a large number of people say that it is his alt and big doggy said as such in his bio, then i think it is a fair assumption.
Madgaz: as above
Waywatcher: Apologies if u are wrongly accused :) ū im simply using the named brought up by 3 or 4 others (I have never met u or big doggy)
Typherin laidai: Your right, they are not pirates by the definition of pirate of Eve. I simply refer to them as pirates as the language filter wont let me say unpolite words
As for the people whinning that there are no one in 0.4 targets: Cry me a river! What do you want peeps to do, just fly there for your benefit so you can kill them? Why would people want to commit suicide? Totally agree with Buster: No reason for miners to mine in 0.1-0.4: It aint worth it isk wise
This thread isnĘt about real pirates though. This is about the type of scum who think its ok to attack unarmed, undefended ships for no real reason in safe/ish space. They donĘt have the guts or balls of real pirates imo
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:51:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Waywatcher I dont usually post on the forums as most threads are just flaming, but i feel i must set peeps straight on this matter....... Big doggy is not my alt, he has nothing to with myself and never has. I dont use alts at all infact so his noob actions are nothing to do with me........ thx folks Way out 
This is correct. I didn't think for a minute it would ever be such a big hairy deal to put Waywatcher's name in my Bio. I really regret it now. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. It was noobish of me, I admit it. Think about it, you can put in your bio that you are anyone's alt. Why is it people just believe it? Everything I say in my bio or ingame is a lie. I cheat, steal, con, scam, and kill barge miners and yet somehow you believe things I say in my bio? How dumb.         |

Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: RavensMask Good going I know of 4 players that has left EVE and will no longer play do to lost of there stuff buy players like you!
Gone and will not play eve again is Sorbic, LordJay, Mays and Delvar.
Thats $450.00 per years EVE has lost and I am told there will be 20 more players that will no longer play.
Keep up the good work Big Doggy and the rest of your Friends you make all the EVE player look real good!
Ahhhh poor babies gonna cry? Someone shoot your little ship? ahhhhh poor babies. Yeah I don't believe what you said for a second. Everyone from your corp is either a liar or a mental case. |

Buster Hymen
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:52:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Marion Quicksilver Buster, YEARRRRRn't you supposed to be working!!??

Aye, but this is more fun by fARRRRRRRRR! ______________________________________________
Won't you give to the Minmatar Orphans of War Charities? With your generous donation of ore or isk, we can reunite a Minmatar slave with his family. |

Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.28 15:57:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Aomis
Originally by: RavensMask Good going I know of 4 players that has left EVE and will no longer play do to lost of there stuff buy players like you!
Gone and will not play eve again is Sorbic, LordJay, Mays and Delvar.
Thats $450.00 per years EVE has lost and I am told there will be 20 more players that will no longer play.
Keep up the good work Big Doggy and the rest of your Friends you make all the EVE player look real good!
Time to end this Big Doggy. Just becouse you have found a way around game mechanics doesnt give you the right to ruin this game for people who find mining entertaining. You dont like mining? Fine, dont mine. You dont like miners? Fine, find them in 0.4 space and below. When people stop playing eve couse of your actions its time to call it a day.
We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Jita, we shall fight on the gates and stations, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the sectors, we shall defend our 'roid fields, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
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Jerec Deepblue
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Posted - 2005.04.28 16:00:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Buster Hymen I think that was doggy's point. Doggy doesn't have targets in 0.4 and below, so that's why he's shooting up empire.
The bigger problem I think is that it just simply isn't profitable for miners to go into 0.4-0.1 most of the time. I mean who goes there to potentially get shot at to mine fricken kernite, omber and jaspet???
Someone mentioned, and I think this is a great idea, that the volume on 0.1-0.4 ores like jaspet, hed, hemo, etc., should be reduced to provide miners incentive to return to those locations by making them much more profitable to mine and transport.
I think this is a fantastic idea, that would probably correct a lot of the issues people are having right now with pirates in empire.
This is a very great idea. What I would suggest is new 'roid types in .1-.4 that have much higher output, so you can make a lot of money mining there. Not out of balance mind you, but enough so that more people would venture into .1-.4
Also, could we have a few more spawns in .1-.4 I think the "variety" of spawns should be increased as well as the loot tables fixed so they give better loot in .1-.4
I am very tired of getting 1mn ab's in loot from 1 million isk BS's |

Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2005.04.28 16:01:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Big doggy
Originally by: RavensMask Good going I know of 4 players that has left EVE and will no longer play do to lost of there stuff buy players like you!
Gone and will not play eve again is Sorbic, LordJay, Mays and Delvar.
Thats $450.00 per years EVE has lost and I am told there will be 20 more players that will no longer play.
Keep up the good work Big Doggy and the rest of your Friends you make all the EVE player look real good!
Ahhhh poor babies gonna cry? Someone shoot your little ship? ahhhhh poor babies. Yeah I don't believe what you said for a second. Everyone from your corp is either a liar or a mental case.
It must be nice to hide behind an alt like the skirts of a woman. Lying about who your main is, grief players so they quit the game and so forth.
You are truly the kind of player EVE need to promote itself so new players gain interest in start playing 
I don't know what it is that make some people to be complete ****s in online game. But of course it raise some interesting theories about how such a person is in real life. The total lack of empathy and the consideration for other players.
You are a prime example for why alts is a bad idea in EVE.
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.28 16:02:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Hella May Edited by: Hella May on 28/04/2005 15:32:47
Originally by: Reash
Originally by: Hella May
Waywater and his mates need to have some guts and try become real pirates. Or try real pvp.
I assume you mean waywatcher by that? If so then as much as i hate him for been a a evil pirate i gotta set you stright and say he pirates fair and square and doesnt just fight industrials or mining barges, he fights battleships and anything else that happens to be around. I also dont think big doggy is his alt for a second.
I was refering to whom ever big doggys owner is. Bearing in mind a large number of people say that it is his alt and big doggy said as such in his bio, then i think it is a fair assumption.
Madgaz: as above
Waywatcher: Apologies if u are wrongly accused :) ū im simply using the named brought up by 3 or 4 others (I have never met u or big doggy)
Dang it, I Lied. Waywatcher is not my alt. I'm a liar and a thief. Waywatcher just wants to kill you.
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Buster Hymen
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Posted - 2005.04.28 16:05:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Virago *Enters Anti-Thief depression mode*
You make me sad buster, you must have another suicide blonde in your life. My corp obviously doesn't mine. It was kinda funny how we met though, I was returning from a "dry" night in Jita, and low and behold, Thief "ribbing" in Local. As I watched with delight for the "donaters" to respond, so that I may interrupt your service, I was shocked to see no response. In fact, I was dizzy with excitement because I thought you had found a Macro Mining outfit, and this would have been delightful fun for the both of us. After your second or third attempt of ribbing, you then gave away the "donaters" and I was able to convo and find the location. Which I was depressed because they actually did respond (was hoping they wouldn't because this would have been evident of a macro mining op), I was able to persuade them to tell me there whereabouts. I then set my trap, like a cat .... sneaking....stealthing about.....then I saw you..in your...little hauler thing, and I SPRaNG! RAWR! ... SCRATCH HISS ! and Concord had to ruin the special bond that we had at that moment. I was hoping you would remember me....but....I guess I'm just another skeleton in your hangar.
*sigh*
I did have a good time "ribbing" with you. Most thieves are hateful. 
*Returns to real life bored at work mode*
*Enter pirate mode* Aye, don't ye worry, thar's always room next to Buster in the Gluttonous Hunger for a fine Caldari wench like yourself. You're finer than any Amarrian street walker I've ever lain with. YAR! 
I could show you a lot of systems where there are macro mining ops, if ya would just only make the transition to the dark side.
Playing hard to get eh? It's not fair to tease a hard edged Minmatar pirate with your Caldari-waifness.
*End pirate mode*
In all seriousness, yes it was a good time. And I haven't forsaken you, cause you made the friends list.
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Won't you give to the Minmatar Orphans of War Charities? With your generous donation of ore or isk, we can reunite a Minmatar slave with his family. |

Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.28 16:09:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Big doggy
Originally by: RavensMask Good going I know of 4 players that has left EVE and will no longer play do to lost of there stuff buy players like you!
Gone and will not play eve again is Sorbic, LordJay, Mays and Delvar.
Thats $450.00 per years EVE has lost and I am told there will be 20 more players that will no longer play.
Keep up the good work Big Doggy and the rest of your Friends you make all the EVE player look real good!
Ahhhh poor babies gonna cry? Someone shoot your little ship? ahhhhh poor babies. Yeah I don't believe what you said for a second. Everyone from your corp is either a liar or a mental case.
It must be nice to hide behind an alt like the skirts of a woman. Lying about who your main is, grief players so they quit the game and so forth.
You are truly the kind of player EVE need to promote itself so new players gain interest in start playing 
I don't know what it is that make some people to be complete ****s in online game. But of course it raise some interesting theories about how such a person is in real life. The total lack of empathy and the consideration for other players.
You are a prime example for why alts is a bad idea in EVE.
It's not an alt. How many times do we have to say it? I have 7 accounts. Which one of the characters is my main and which is my alt? Big doggy is the char I play most all the time, so therefore he is my main.
I think you people have thick heads.
Yeah I know you think, in your simple way of looking at things, that what people want is a docile, safe land of nothing but asteriods as far as the eye can see, and no rats, no pirates, no ore theives, no killers, nothing but MIND NUMBING BOREDOM forever.
And you think people will pay for that?
Maybe they should create a second server with nothing but asteriods, no rats or rats spawns, and no pvp or wars allowed.
Then you could mine forever, endlessly, mindlessly like the care bear you are. |
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