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Hilabana	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:10:00 - [1] Edited by: Hilabana on 28/04/2005 22:42:02 No one needs my posts some I am taking them all off the forum! ______________________________________________ Im just a Older person having fun in the best Game ever made in the world -=[ EVE-ONLINE ]=- ----------------------------------------------
Miner's Bane	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:14:00 - [2] kthxbye ------------------------------------------------------------------
U'puauht	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:14:00 - [3] Originally by: Hilabana the ship is not much good for any thing ...by which you mean of course, that it is not good for agent-running or NPC hunting now that it has been turned into a real EW platform. Not that it was a comparably crappy ship for hunting before... ______________________________________________________ Deep Space Services : Risk is our business, security our service.
Hellwasp	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:18:00 - [4] with the ew nerf that's already making the scorp the worst teir 1 battleship. the missle nerf will guarantee that the scorp can be killed by a group of 5 interceptors
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Hilabana To all players that have the Caldari Scorp. BS and found you have lost some thing ! Your right the ship has been killed by ccp no longer will you find any plus that helps you fight a NPC the ship is not much good for any thing if you do not have implants and lvl 4 skills to use it now! no more + to missile speed or torps Eh? Why would implants make it better? They don't. Also, 'level 4' skills? The hell? I'm assuming you mean skills at level 4, which is wrong. You often need skills at level 5 in order to pilot BS. Gunnery level 5 for BS sized guns, for example. The Scorp is alot more balanced now, since before the patch the only skill you needed was Electronic Warfare at level 1 and BS at level 1. That's it. You could then stop any other BS piloted by any pilot of any skill level from firing all their weapons, all the time. Reeeal balanced. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
Tobiaz	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:23:00 - [6] Stop whining. If you don't like the Scorp anymore, go fly something else.
Jim Steele	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:26:00 - [7] These people dont seem to think the scorp is ruined.. All it means is that you know need more than 2million skillpoints to pilot one, which indeed you may call "balanced". Death to the Galante
Nootami	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:38:00 - [8] There are plenty of ships that would be killed by 5 interceptors. Originally by: Cortex Reaver [22:39:59] [Oi]Nootami1 joined channel [22:40:02] [Oi]Nootami1 quit Oh,look! Someone joined for a whopping .3 seconds! -CR
Quanteeri	Posted - 2005.04.25 13:55:00 - [9] Edited by: Quanteeri on 25/04/2005 13:56:14 Woot. Tanking AND Scrambling at the same time. Could life get much better? BTW, the Scorp has always taking alot of skills to fly competently. 5 Inties should've been able to get the job done prior to the patch too.
Hyey	Posted - 2005.04.25 14:00:00 - [10] Originally by: Hellwasp with the ew nerf that's already making the scorp the worst teir 1 battleship. the missle nerf will guarantee that the scorp can be killed by a group of 5 interceptors You sir are a complete idiot. The scorp can jam up to 6 battleships (which is ALOT more than previous.) at a time now you just need more than.. lvl 1 jamming to be able to do so. It also does this quite often if you have the proper skills. ~~ Hyey I just payed 15 dollars this month just to be able to respond on the forums... stupid cancellation error.
Hollborn	Posted - 2005.04.25 14:06:00 - [11] Edited by: Hollborn on 25/04/2005 14:08:18 Scorps have been useless for NPCing for ages now. Ever since the patch that no longer allowed you to jam NPCs. Scorps are no longer the noobs PvP BS. You can still fight the scorp with low skills. But now people with higher skills can fly it more effectivly. Which I think is better. Because noobs don't jump into Tempests and wreck for massive damage without training lots and lots of skills why should noobs jumps into Scorps and jam other battleships 100% every time. I am really happy with the EW changes. Pat on the back to CCP on a job well done. /emote tips his hat
Soulis	Posted - 2005.04.25 14:48:00 - [12] Originally by: Hyey Originally by: Hellwasp with the ew nerf that's already making the scorp the worst teir 1 battleship. the missle nerf will guarantee that the scorp can be killed by a group of 5 interceptors You sir are a complete idiot. The scorp can jam up to 6 battleships (which is ALOT more than previous.) at a time now you just need more than.. lvl 1 jamming to be able to do so. It also does this quite often if you have the proper skills. the bold + italic bit are spot on, exactly what i was going to say but you beat me to it.
DAS SOLDAT	Posted - 2005.04.25 14:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Jim Steele These people dont seem to think the scorp is ruined.. All it means is that you know need more than 2million skillpoints to pilot one, which indeed you may call "balanced". People with less than 2 million sp fly bs? Please let me know who they are
V2GBR	Posted - 2005.04.25 15:02:00 - [14] Originally by: Hellwasp with the ew nerf that's already making the scorp the worst teir 1 battleship. the missle nerf will guarantee that the scorp can be killed by a group of 5 interceptors Erm my scorp wont be killed by 5 interceptors i can tell you that. ---------- http://guc.webinventions.co.uk <-- GUC Site. www.webinventions.co.uk <-- My eve history.
Gift	Posted - 2005.04.25 15:19:00 - [15] Edited by: Gift on 25/04/2005 15:19:17 I am the only one who thinks the scorp was never much of a bs anyway? It's very slow, agility is terrible for being the smallest bs, it's damage was a joke but EW made it scarey. So whats the problem?
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.04.25 15:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Jim Steele These people dont seem to think the scorp is ruined.. All it means is that you know need more than 2million skillpoints to pilot one, which indeed you may call "balanced". Should have had a Tech II backup array. Works wonders to prevent jams. I've beaten scorps with that setup and they die really quick because they don't carry a tank at all.
Kular	Posted - 2005.04.25 15:30:00 - [17] Hey guess what elese? you can Jam NPC's now! so k thanks bye! Home of Ubiqua Seraph Eve's only all Sarum loyal corporation.
aeti	Posted - 2005.04.25 15:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Dionysus Davinci Originally by: Jim Steele These people dont seem to think the scorp is ruined.. All it means is that you know need more than 2million skillpoints to pilot one, which indeed you may call "balanced". Should have had a Tech II backup array. Works wonders to prevent jams. I've beaten scorps with that setup and they die really quick because they don't carry a tank at all. backups are all but useless now
nahtoh	Posted - 2005.04.25 15:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Hilabana To all players that have the Caldari Scorp. BS and found you have lost some thing ! Your right the ship has been killed by ccp no longer will you find any plus that helps you fight a NPC the ship is not much good for any thing if you do not have implants and lvl 4 skills to use it now! no more + to missile speed or torps Urg you can still use the Scorp for lvl4 missions unless I have been imagining the ones I have been doing over the past coule of days...and a under 2mil SO character aswell...so pretty much you are wrong about that,,,and so is everybody else that says you cant "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.04.25 16:16:00 - [20] Rubbish! I'm putting a scorp through it's paces, and IMO it _rocks_. A decent shield tank _and_ room to jam things is lovely. Or less tank, and room to jam _lots_ of things if you're flying with a group. OK, so it doesn't spoon out damage like a raven (which is, after all, a tier 2 battleship) but with EW being viable vs npcs, it's now excellent fun to do missions in. This is with EW skills trained for the last couple of days, so I'm going to assume that it's only going to get better.
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.04.25 16:32:00 - [21] Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 25/04/2005 16:33:11 Originally by: aeti backups are all but useless now Oh ok, they sure are. Try running some numbers. A Racial jammer that matches your sensor type will jam you 50% of the time in a BS, but if you add in Backup Array II, it puts the odds in your favor enough that any scorpian foolish enough to load up his mids with jammers instead of some shield tank is going to get WTFPWN and if they are stupid enough to still fill mid-slots with multis you can really giggle at the jam rate they have.
Samurai Pumpkin	Posted - 2005.04.25 18:59:00 - [22] I noticed that the Scorp has 9000 cap whereas the Raven has 9500 cap. Keeping in mind that passive cap recharge is based on total cap is this a big drawback?
Cheim	Posted - 2005.04.25 19:19:00 - [23] Originally by: Samurai Pumpkin I noticed that the Scorp has 9000 cap whereas the Raven has 9500 cap. Keeping in mind that passive cap recharge is based on total cap is this a big drawback? A ship with 9000 capacitor would be uber. That's powergrid you're looking at, and the Scorpion has no problems with fitting unless you want four Tachyons or something.
Garnet Strife	Posted - 2005.04.25 19:30:00 - [24] Originally by: Hellwasp with the ew nerf that's already making the scorp the worst teir 1 battleship. the missle nerf will guarantee that the scorp can be killed by a group of 5 interceptors Mmmmm we kill most BS with 5 intys... I WANT A SIG!
Akaviri	Posted - 2005.04.25 20:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Dionysus Davinci Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 25/04/2005 16:33:11 Originally by: aeti backups are all but useless now Oh ok, they sure are. Try running some numbers. A Racial jammer that matches your sensor type will jam you 50% of the time in a BS, but if you add in Backup Array II, it puts the odds in your favor enough that any scorpian foolish enough to load up his mids with jammers instead of some shield tank is going to get WTFPWN and if they are stupid enough to still fill mid-slots with multis you can really giggle at the jam rate they have. I suggest you actually run some numbers yourself. Take a look here. All one backup array is going to do on a bs is reduce your chance of being jammed by about 5%. Is that really worth sacrificing one of your low slots? ````````````` _ \|\_ ````````````` \` oo\ ````````_____/ =__Y= `````` /` `````` ) `_``` / ` , ``` \/\_.(\_/) ((____\| `` )_--\ \_-`(x.x) `------'`------` `--` (> <) Kitty pwns Bunny!
SwitchBl4d3	Posted - 2005.04.25 20:07:00 - [26] Ok Thankyou Goodbye. Rav3n for teh w1ggle "Teh lord of Nonni"

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