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Acier
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Posted - 2005.04.25 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: Acier on 25/04/2005 13:59:12
History:
Some mates and I were in the middle of taking down the shields of a PCS last evening [had the shlds to roughly 55-60%] when the uncheduled DT was announced. We had already conquered some other stations and they were in the process of being guarded/boosted etc.
The Sr. Representative from each corp present at the station being taken composed and sent in notices to the GM's stating that we were taking the station etc and wanted to have the shlds remain at current status or adjusted appropriately after the unsched'd DT.
After the DT we log back on to discover the shlds are at back at 100% on the station we were attacking but had not been boosted on the stations we had conquered.
ISSUE: Did the DT result in some sort of odd deep space anomaly whereby only stations under attack were "reinforced" or some such magic or was it an error or what could it be?
Action: We heard responses from GM's ranging from - "you notified us too late" (one message was sent AFTER the DT as it was composed on the fly) to "this was sent to the wrong section" (is there a really a section for don't screw me during DT's?)
So what exactly is this? Can someone pls explain?
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.04.25 13:52:00 -
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(is there a really a section for don't screw me during DT's?)
I don't really have an answer (beyond "That sucks"), but I wanted to say that that comment made me laugh.
Haha!
See, I'm laughing! =o
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Candy
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Posted - 2005.04.25 13:55:00 -
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I agree that really sucks but I think you may want to remove anything the GMs said from your post. I think it gives them the ability to delete it.
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.04.25 18:33:00 -
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Yeah this is just wrong.
The GMs response always comes across as if its our fault.
So much for training them to respond to clients/customers.
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.04.25 18:39:00 -
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Yeah, I got told by a GM that it was our fault that we didn't petition this BEFORE the DT actually went through. Like we should know that if DT does happen, only the station we shoot at should get shields boosted while the one we keep doesn't. Thats just brilliant logic.
However, WE DO KNOW CCP has some major issues with consistency. So did petition it before the actual DT.. only thing is that the petition didn't get looked at. So that is our fault as well.
What a farce.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.04.25 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Acier
Edited by: Acier on 25/04/2005 13:59:12
History:
Some mates and I were in the middle of taking down the shields of a PCS last evening [had the shlds to roughly 55-60%] when the uncheduled DT was announced. We had already conquered some other stations and they were in the process of being guarded/boosted etc.
The Sr. Representative from each corp present at the station being taken composed and sent in notices to the GM's stating that we were taking the station etc and wanted to have the shlds remain at current status or adjusted appropriately after the unsched'd DT.
After the DT we log back on to discover the shlds are at back at 100% on the station we were attacking but had not been boosted on the stations we had conquered.
ISSUE: Did the DT result in some sort of odd deep space anomaly whereby only stations under attack were "reinforced" or some such magic or was it an error or what could it be?
Action: We heard responses from GM's ranging from - "you notified us too late" (one message was sent AFTER the DT as it was composed on the fly) to "this was sent to the wrong section" (is there a really a section for don't screw me during DT's?)
So what exactly is this? Can someone pls explain?
...not something new. Some guys from Solstice had the same problem, but with a POS.
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aggro
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Posted - 2005.04.25 19:36:00 -
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i think there is a consipracy against the fab five or is it just my imagination.
Where there is trouble you will always find AGGRO |
Ajaya
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Posted - 2005.04.25 20:00:00 -
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Acier, I completely understand what you are going through. I've spent about 16 hours now between two POS assaults that ended much the way your assault on a PCS went. In one case we had one in reinforced mode (25% shields) and another about 15 minutes from reinforced mode before an 'unscheduled downtime' erased 10 hours of hard work. In the second instance, we had petitioned and spoken to a GM about the POS concerns w/ shields and were promised there would be no more issues like this. However, after the dt we were then told that nothing could be proved, aparently they have no logs of anything whatsoever, and the various fraps recordings and screenshots we took AS proof, are not even acceptable for them to look over, per their policy.
The worst part was they admitted this was a known issue. KNOWN. They know it's going on but won't fix it and refuse to support it. CCP, the people behind the game, not the 'powerless' gm's need to step up and set this right.
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Phony v2
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Posted - 2005.04.25 20:10:00 -
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Wow fix that CCP. If that happened to me more than once, you would lose me as a customer, or I would just try to get banned from every communication device i could dealing with eve while spamming how CCP sucks. Fix it guys, thats most unfair **** I've ever heard of. Talk about time robbing...
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Arimas Talasko
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Posted - 2005.04.25 21:30:00 -
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Strangest thing is how the stations we had already conquered didn't have their shields recharged.
Supremacy Keepin it Real |
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aggro
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Posted - 2005.04.25 22:32:00 -
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is it possible ccp are an xetic sponsored corp.or all the gms are xetic
it does seem strange that the incident acier is talking about help xeti big time.
as arimas says "suprm keeping it real"
Where there is trouble you will always find AGGRO |
CEO Pyrex
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Posted - 2005.04.26 07:28:00 -
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Its all a consipracy i tells you!
whistles quietly as he closes the convo to CCP HQ telling them to 'Nerf Supremacy' or we will ban all ccp accounts
Target Painters for the win!
CEO Pyrex
Member of the longdongfanclub2005
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.04.26 07:48:00 -
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TBH, I'm pretty sure the station recharge had something to do with it being under attack, and not biased. Though it does certainly suck that our stations where not recharged, and the one(s) under attack were.
Does make me question what sortof consistancy CCP and the GM team have. At the verey leasty one could have expected our stations to have been given full shields.
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Kanonus
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Posted - 2005.04.26 07:57:00 -
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I think TomB is Cyvoks alt.
And i think its great that devs help us poor xeticduudz0rz 
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Vaarmoth Malinigvious
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Posted - 2005.04.26 08:11:00 -
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The GM response to my petition on this matter was to stop spamming petitions because they can not verify the shield strength before DT occured. 
When Shinra was in control of Period Basis, Rubra held the same position but with a different outcome. They had been shooting the TPAR station for several hours and gotten it down to like 5% shields. There was an unschedueld DT and after a reboot the station shields were at 100%. Once petitioned, a GM showed up in TPAR and gave Rubra the station citing that it was low enough for them to have taken it durring the downtime. Fair or not, all we are asking for is some consistancy. |
The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.26 08:12:00 -
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This wreaks of GM Bias. We even gave an incident number referring to a petition where, in exactly the same conditions - when it was FA attacking a station, they knocked the shields right down straight after DT.
Now:
-SNRA held PCS did not get recharged.
-XF held PCS were fully recharged.
I will be gathering all evidence I can and submitting it to CCP. This is unaccptable, blatant abuse of GM Powers, and I myself won't tolerate it - it needs to be sorted out and compensated for.
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Sir Galaxy
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Posted - 2005.04.26 08:14:00 -
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Hmm... this is just the latest in a long line of problems delivered courtesy of CCP since they released Exodus...
Perhaps its time they expanded their workforce they must be making enough money too!
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Supremacy. Enough Said.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.26 08:15:00 -
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In this situation they also claimed they could not 'verify' the previous shield levels from their logs, HOWEVER they also had said previously, in the SAME incident I mentioned involving FA that they could verify it from the logs!
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.04.26 08:18:00 -
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Is it just me or are most of the GM's complete ****S?
Which PA character are you?
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Sir Galaxy
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Posted - 2005.04.26 08:27:00 -
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I must agree, they could at least get some1 onto the forum who works with the programming of the game to explain why this happened, rather than sitting on there backsides contradicting themselves!
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Supremacy. Enough Said.
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Ohmite
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:01:00 -
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All we want is some consistency
If the policy is to put stations back to 100% on an unscheduled DT then place our stations back to 100% not just XETIC stations
If the policy is to put some form of sensibility into the equation then place Xetic station back down to the situation before DT and leave our shields at there present level.
This surely is the only two sensible alternatives and is fair to both sides, the situation now is the FIVE got screwed on the shields of our stations we owned as they were not put back to 100% (unlike XETIC station) and got screwed on the station we were trying to take by getting those shileds back to 100% after all our hard work.
WE WANT SOME COMMON POLICY THAT IS NOT MUCH TO ASK - Otherwise it does seem to stink of some sort of XETIC Bias by the GMs which should not be tolerated if true
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CEO Pyrex
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:05:00 -
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Guys calm down
You have bumped post to post for the last few hours with shinra to supremacy posts winding each other up about a GM bias towards an enemy.
Im sure its a simple mistake and nothing to get paranoid about, its most likely a simppp....ARGHHH LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!!!! ITS A GM WEARING A 'I WUB XETIC T-SHIRT' ARGHHHH
Paranoia 4TL
I personally think its Xetics 'Ned Flanders' effect. No matter how much hatred and evil is poored on him by life, Homer and everything he still comes up smelling of roses.
Xetic are good guys like Ned, maybe God / Joves are looking out for us? 
CEO Pyrex
Soft, Strong and very very long
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Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:13:00 -
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Good guys don't log off in combat.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:20:00 -
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CEO Pyrex; I understand your preferred solution is for this to be overlooked, however I would appreciate your replies to show a little less bias.
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VeNT
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:20:00 -
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would be realy nice to see a GM/Devs replys to these issues
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CEO Pyrex
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:21:00 -
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If stations are being charged unfairly then i say sort to CCP it out asap. but for the nasty little 'at least i dont log out during combat' comment i have this to say:
hmm, checked my logs and cant see any time 'I' have logged off in combat....oh hang on....
Log starts "zzzaaaaaeerr***k.. wow is that a Guristas Arrogator! omg load torpedos fast....its getting closer....arghh helppp its firing on me with its civ gattling.....shield down to 99% IM GOING DOWN REPEAT MY RAVEN IS GOING DOWN......." ceo pyrex log ends
Nope that was the only logging incident i had....maybe it was one of the other 3999 people?
Nice come back by the way, musta taken all of 1 second to think that up.
So i end by retorting with "nerr nerr neee neeerrr nerrr" (sticking tounge out and waving hands by side of head)
i can do mature too
CEO Pyrex
Wiseass
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CEO Pyrex
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:23:00 -
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wrong actually Mr Shinra, i think it sucks. Again just cos im Xetic you put me into a little box.
This is obviously completly unacceptable that stations do not regen the same.
I would say petition but that would end in the thread being locked
CEO Pyrex
Equal Opportunities is what im about
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:23:00 -
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He didn't imply you log in combat, he said XF do. Which, in fairness we have seen, and shown proof of multiple people doing so.
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Dorga Khab
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
He didn't imply you log in combat, he said XF do. Which, in fairness we have seen, and shown proof of multiple people doing so.
I havent seen xetic fleet in XF space since this war started
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.04.26 10:25:00 -
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This needs to be public, and CCP need to investigate it and discipline the involved staff.
I'm glad you agree. 
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