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Big Al
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:28:00 -
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OK.
No arguments. Simple question, should something be implemented to prevent the spate of cannister thefts whilst mining?
Simple yes or no please. Everyone's arguments are in other posts.
'It is only when your life flashes before your eyes that you realise how much you have missed.'
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:33:00 -
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No. Shoot them, take the sec hit and run or mine differently/somewhere else.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:35:00 -
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Yes. Do something. All hostile activities should be nerfed beyond any recognition.
I suggest account termination on cargo stealing. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:36:00 -
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And nerf also 3 jump trading routes with 1,1 Million ISK profit. Can earn them in 6-12 minutes.
Edited by: Molly on 06/07/2003 15:36:58 ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:37:00 -
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Also make the game single player. One server for every player would be best. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

agrizla
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:40:00 -
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Heh - it's just that you secretly want to run Concord Molly ;)
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Big Al
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:46:00 -
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Dammit!
What part of the subject did you not understand Molly? A simple yes or no. That's not too much to ask is it?
I don't want this to be a debate, that's what the numerous other threads are for.
I want simple numbers. How many for and how many against!
'It is only when your life flashes before your eyes that you realise how much you have missed.'
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Damon Vile
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:47:00 -
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Molly if you'd wipe the tears away from your eyes and read what ppl are asking you'd see they want to be able to shoot someone for stealing. How is that removing hostile activity?
yes they should do something about it.
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:48:00 -
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damn molly, i was about to suggest such changes myself, now your going to get all the credit:/
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Big Al
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:49:00 -
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If you are not going to reply with a simple yes or no, please do not bother posting in this thread.
No flaming either please.
'It is only when your life flashes before your eyes that you realise how much you have missed.'
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:49:00 -
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Big Al, take a course "Voting for Dummies" and start a thread again.
I can type whatever I want on my ballot! I managed even to give away 3 ballots!
No, that's not because of my split personality :P. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Psychia
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:49:00 -
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I think if someone outside of your gang takes stuff out of your can, you should be able to fire upon them without retribution. Same for them, let's see them start fighting for their free ore...
Easy nuff...
Makes it fair for both sides... You can't just take ore, and you don't get annihilated by the cops...
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:50:00 -
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They should be able to take it. But I should be able to respond.
2 days ago I had a punk in a Tormentor making 4 ! runs to grab Pyroxeres from my can. I was mining for production-need in our 0.9 system.
Sure, he should be able to do that. But I should be able to fire back without having to worry about the concord battleships in the system jumping me asap so I have to abandon my can and thereby loose another 100k units of pyro.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:50:00 -
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If a player drops a canister and is right next to it mining, they should be able to ward-off theives without CONCORD coming and destroying their ship.
If the miner leaves the canister unattended, then comes back to the belt to find someone helping themselves to the ore, then I don't think they really can claim it anymore.. but they should still be able to fight over it.
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:54:00 -
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ehehehe!
Yes! Nastynastynasty! Scrapyard Jack also recommends:
1. One personal asteroid per person. This asteroid will have infinite ore quantity, and when refined, yield every mineral in the game. Scrapyard Jack would like it to be called ScrapJackIte.
2. A new class of ship, which has 8 turrets, 10000 drone space and unlimited cargo space. This remarkable vessel should require Starship Command level 1 to fly, by available from all good ship-dealers at a paltry 10,000 ISK, and be indestructible.
3. All PvPers/"thieves" should be banned on sight, hunted down in the real world, and slaughtered like cattle. m0o! ehehehe! Their dismembered corpses should then be strung up in front of CCP headquarters as a constant reminder that negative actions have negative consequence.
4. NPC pirates should be removed from the game immediately, (they are obviously just griefers, all they do is try and kill people)
5. All weapons and weapon-related modules should be immediately confiscated and melted down. Especially the missiles, (someone could lose an eye).
6. The only form of human interaction should take place in carefully monitored in-game forums with strict moderators who swiftly delete anything that might be considered vaguely upsetting to a manic-depressive 40 year old virgin.
7. Every system should immediately become 1.0, with hundreds of Concord battleships in each, ready to rain fiery death on anyone who commits such heinous crimes as leaving the toilet seat up, or coughing in church.
Yupyupyup, then EVE will be perfect, ehehehe!
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:56:00 -
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Somebody needs to help me up. I am on the floor. Lauging! Damn Srapyard Jack, don't do this to me! Oh wait, give me some more :-)! ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.06 15:56:00 -
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Oh, Scrapyard Jack votes no, by the way.
y'snooze, y'lose.
ehehehe!
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Jean Francois
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:03:00 -
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People should be able to steal from the cargo containers but not without risk.
I believe if the "owner" has not used the container for 30 minutes, then yea, its abandoned.
If someone is actively using it then if someone else steals from it, you or your gang should be able to fire upon them.
I have seen posts where people are saying "you should have a corp member using an indy blah blah.."
Freelancers do not have this option.
I dont think it should be impossible to steal from them, hell would be quite fun to "run the gauntlet.." but no risk theft needs to be sorted.
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M0RPHEUS
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:07:00 -
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scrap, you looking for a corp? *rolleyes* anyway, i think the container issue is ghey(this is not profane) from the start....DONT JETTISON STUFF if you want it. Mine like ur supposed to. Or dont.....plz dont be ghey and whine about the issue. Ask me nicely and I won't pod you... |

Nyrram
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:09:00 -
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Let's ask Webster:
Main Entry: 1jetĀtiĀson Pronunciation: 'je-t&-s&n, -z&n Function: noun
: a voluntary sacrifice of cargo to lighten a ship's load in time of distress
I think Webster votes NO... and probably "STFU"
-- Nyrram |

Jean Francois
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:10:00 -
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Nobody is whining.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:13:00 -
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No, although you should be able to fire on any thief you find stealing your cargo. You make it more risky and fun for both miners and thieves.
Edited by: Nirvy on 06/07/2003 16:13:52 Mercenary | The Azath |

Big Al
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:19:00 -
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The only thing I have to whine about is people not sticking to the subject of the thread.
As for a voting course for dummies Molly, I think I made it plain enough and dumbed it down enough with the sentence: Simple yes or no.
Simple enough for you.
No suggestions please. Just yes or no. I know people have differing views. I am simply looking at numbers, nothing more, nothing less.
'It is only when your life flashes before your eyes that you realise how much you have missed.'
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:20:00 -
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You can't look on numbers, everyone can give a few votes with his alt chars :-|. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Big Al
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:22:00 -
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Then so be it. That way, everyone has three votes. Do some simple maths and you have accurate numbers.
Also, people who want to make Alts and delete them just for the purpose of voting on this thread are just plain sad.
Edited by: Big Al on 06/07/2003 16:22:34
'It is only when your life flashes before your eyes that you realise how much you have missed.'
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:40:00 -
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Big Al:
Your vote topic is vague.
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:42:00 -
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"Then so be it. That way, everyone has three votes. Do some simple maths and you have accurate numbers."
What about people with multiple accounts, eh?
What about people who account-share with their family members/friends, eh?
Inaccurate! Flawed! Hairy!
(Also, bear in mind that the vast majority of players either don't know the forums exist, or don't care enough to come here to vote on the carebear-of-the-month topic)
ehehehe!
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:45:00 -
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I think he has been the election supervisor in the latest U.S. presidential elections. Simple math... ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

agrizla
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:54:00 -
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Yep nerf everything and allow macros - that way I can just run the game minimised and rack up isk like I rack up Seti@home results on other machines :/
Some people need to seriously get a clue. I'm not a pirate and I have never podkilled anyone but I'm rapidly getting to the stage where I think I'm going to do it just to relieve the boredom. There is absolutely nothing in Empire space that stops you going afk for extended periods.
CCP seriously buggered up with this patch and it has had the effect of making the game very boring indeed. No more wondering what lies ahead as you go below 0.5 space - you know what lies ahead. Big sentry guns. Everywhere.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.07.06 16:58:00 -
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Hey Big Al, where are you mining at? Please tell me so I can come steal your ore!
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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