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C4w3	Posted - 2005.04.27 14:37:00 - [1] As of today there will be a short statment. snip Some corps decided to leave FoE in my thinking, and from what i know as a fact stated by most CEO¦s the wasent happy with the stress and wars, i know there has been some discussion about the FoE leadership, and as i said befor desissions was made by C4w3 Foyle marichek ender hawkes number one and so on, so i feel bad that You ender dident come to me as a man to man, and talked about the matter, but thats life. FoE are still werry much intact, including our longterm friends in celts and so on. what it comes down to is a power hungry egotrip and im sad to see so many, accusing the wrong persons. C4w3 <-- out Edited for constructiveness - Jacques "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:11:00 - [2] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE My vids and random stuff
Soulis	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:15:00 - [3] damn, i read what max said before he edited it, but it made no sense to me
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:30:00 - [4] Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am
Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:50:00 - [5] Thread cleaned. Please keep it friendly, constructive and flame free thanks. {The Forum Rules} \| {Email Us!}
Zen Later	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:50:00 - [6] Edited by: Zen Later on 27/04/2005 15:50:43 Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Dear Max...actually knowing what's going on makes you comfortable in knowing you are informed. Thinking you know what's going on just makes you everybody else. P.S. Now S.A.S gets 80 gazzilion forum posts...99.5% of which will have nothing to do with S.A.S. or Max...attatched to their corp all with the name MaxSuicide . Any wagers on how long till he's in another corp?
Soulis	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Zen Later Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Dear Max...actually knowing what's going on makes comfortable in knowing you are informed. Thinking you know what's going on just makes you everybody else. P.S. Now S.A.S gets 80 gazzilion forum posts...99.5% of which will have nothing to do with S.A.S. or Max...attatched to their corp all with the name MaxSuicide . Any wagers on how long till he's in another corp?
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:55:00 - [8] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Seriously Max I have always loved your posts and consider you to be a friend in game, but you have moved corps AGAIN?? whats going on m8 why cant you settle, talk to your Uncle Ed.
darth solo	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:04:00 - [9] cool, at this rate FOE will fill the whole alliance forum.. maybe they are trying to blob up?. d solo.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:10:00 - [10] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:11:49 double My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:11:00 - [11] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:11:11 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Zen Later Edited by: Zen Later on 27/04/2005 15:50:43 Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Dear Max...actually knowing what's going on makes you comfortable in knowing you are informed. Thinking you know what's going on just makes you everybody else. P.S. Now S.A.S gets 80 gazzilion forum posts...99.5% of which will have nothing to do with S.A.S. or Max...attatched to their corp all with the name MaxSuicide . Any wagers on how long till he's in another corp? sorry, but uve been on lineage the last 4 months. i left foe because of****s like u zen. not because of wars. or just because i fancied a change. and if u didnt notice, im still fighting PA and the rest under this corp. Your (or should i say the active fe peeps) are abandoning what they started and stabbing people in the back. as they say 'KTHNXBYE!' My vids and random stuff
Hanns	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Sun Ra Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am F-E and FoE are different thing F-E is the Forsaken empire which was once a large PVP alliance but now just a small corp of long time eve players, your talking about FoE which is the pvp alliance your speaking of, which did have F-E in its ranks, althogh most of the long term F-E pilots were never 100% behind the Creation of the FoE and the addition of most of ex curse alliance. FoE lost the stations and controll coz they bit off more than they could chew, despite the warnings of the long term F-E pilots who are currently on an eve-vacation. hope this clears up some things.
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:26:00 - [13] all i can say is lol, thats what happen when you let curse rejects in controll.... Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:26:00 - [14] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:26:15 techie was the only one voicing concerns hanns. i remember a lot of FE saying 'lets pwnz0r PA!' etc maybe techie is the only one left with a sense of honour and maturity. My vids and random stuff
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:30:00 - [15] Do both sides still hate Xetic?
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Nepereta Do both sides still hate Xetic? Everyone hates xetic, its the law.
Chowdown	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Nepereta Do both sides still hate Xetic? Everyone does New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:43:00 - [18] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: Nepereta Do both sides still hate Xetic? Everyone does feels very hated ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Hanns	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:45:00 - [19] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:26:15 techie was the only one voicing concerns hanns. i remember a lot of FE saying 'lets pwnz0r PA!' etc maybe techie is the only one left with a sense of honour and maturity. as far as i can remeber conversations on TS with the origional F-E members including Hupa, Techie, Zen later, Numberone and myslef all said to leave PA alone because we had been NAP'd with them and respected eachothers wishes since Before the Creation of the FoE. But people still kept killing PA pilots, and not giving a ****, its hardly suprising, i would have probably done the same thing if i was PA. So any F-E members who said lets go pwn PA were probably newer pilots who wernt origionaly F-E, or it was FoE members. I cant say for shure coz i havent played eve at all lately, but i know for a fact we said not to fuc kwith PA but nobody listened.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:45:00 - [20] Originally by: Hanns Originally by: Sun Ra Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am F-E and FoE are different thing F-E is the Forsaken empire which was once a large PVP alliance but now just a small corp of long time eve players, your talking about FoE which is the pvp alliance your speaking of, which did have F-E in its ranks, althogh most of the long term F-E pilots were never 100% behind the Creation of the FoE and the addition of most of ex curse alliance. FoE lost the stations and controll coz they bit off more than they could chew, despite the warnings of the long term F-E pilots who are currently on an eve-vacation. hope this clears up some things. I know the history dood, but F-E the corp has have had something to do with the whole thing starting, ill quote slighlymad Quote: I do not follow you completely Ender Hawks. How can you wash FE hands on the subject of the FOE-PA war? Fugazzi from your corp has right from the beginning been on top of the barricades screaming for the destruction of PA ships. On top of that he also was LEADING the attack into HPA which more or less would guarantee that PA started to sharpen their knives. That attack made sure that the differences between our alliances was not solved diplomaticly and that all talks went sour after that. Ballistic Void from your corp have also been one of the loudest people in this. Giving ultimatums like "You are either with us or againsts us" when we wanted to stay neutral in regards of your current wars. He also threw the final match on the pile of gasoline by convoing Cochise and saying that we were not allowed to use UMI-KK for traveling to Empire anymore. And there is nothing surer of getting a war than cutting PA out from empire completely, is it? It seems they were all up for it at the start, then they got spanked and blamed it all on Foyle & Co and swore they had nothing to do with it, the only FoE i saw saying anything about not wanting to shoot PA is GODS but hey they still went away and did it. F-E lost their space, they want it back, so they took the cowedly route to get it back, i hope PA/G/IRON dont let them off so easy. Maybe im wrong but this is how 90% of EVE see's it
Dabone	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Sun Ra Originally by: Hanns Originally by: Sun Ra Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am F-E and FoE are different thing F-E is the Forsaken empire which was once a large PVP alliance but now just a small corp of long time eve players, your talking about FoE which is the pvp alliance your speaking of, which did have F-E in its ranks, althogh most of the long term F-E pilots were never 100% behind the Creation of the FoE and the addition of most of ex curse alliance. FoE lost the stations and controll coz they bit off more than they could chew, despite the warnings of the long term F-E pilots who are currently on an eve-vacation. hope this clears up some things. I know the history dood, but F-E the corp has have had something to do with the whole thing starting, ill quote slighlymad Quote: I do not follow you completely Ender Hawks. How can you wash FE hands on the subject of the FOE-PA war? Fugazzi from your corp has right from the beginning been on top of the barricades screaming for the destruction of PA ships. On top of that he also was LEADING the attack into HPA which more or less would guarantee that PA started to sharpen their knives. That attack made sure that the differences between our alliances was not solved diplomaticly and that all talks went sour after that. Ballistic Void from your corp have also been one of the loudest people in this. Giving ultimatums like "You are either with us or againsts us" when we wanted to stay neutral in regards of your current wars. He also threw the final match on the pile of gasoline by convoing Cochise and saying that we were not allowed to use UMI-KK for traveling to Empire anymore. And there is nothing surer of getting a war than cutting PA out from empire completely, is it? It seems they were all up for it at the start, then they got spanked and blamed it all on Foyle & Co and swore they had nothing to do with it, the only FoE i saw saying anything about not wanting to shoot PA is GODS but hey they still went away and did it. F-E lost their space, they want it back, so they took the cowedly route to get it back, i hope PA/G/IRON dont let them off so easy. Maybe im wrong but this is how 90% of EVE see's it How do you know what 90% of anything sees? Fugazi is a killer no doubt, and well respected, but Hanns and others, the real old-timers in F-E (more than a year or 2), didn't want anything to do with a war with PA... Most of the old timers in F-E were former Bio-Mass cartel, the pirate org that went semi-legit. We fought the Venal Alliance, New Venal Alliance, and PA for a long time. At some point in time, I think enough mutual respect developed between FE and PA, and besides, we liked not having to worry about attack from the north. Listening to Foyle and some people talk about the ultimate war on PA, well before hostilities began, was disturbing. As if it was a forgone conclusion and she was just waiting for a pretext. Also, the most successful fights I have been in have been head up by veterans like Hupa and Havocide. I learned to go with an expendable vessel when FOE was leading the fighting. Seeing basic mistakes by fleet commanders cost people their ships was disheartening. FoE has good commanders, C4 is one of them, but lots of wannabees. Anyways, just more politics. Politics in many ways are the best and worst part of eve. And that's why you will find alot of F-E playing "L" right now... The only love in prison is the kind cigarettes can buy.
Hanns	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Sun Ra snip I know the history dood, but F-E the corp has have had something to do with the whole thing starting, ill quote slighlymad Quote: I do not follow you completely Ender Hawks. How can you wash FE hands on the subject of the FOE-PA war? Fugazzi from your corp has right from the beginning been on top of the barricades screaming for the destruction of PA ships. On top of that he also was LEADING the attack into HPA which more or less would guarantee that PA started to sharpen their knives. That attack made sure that the differences between our alliances was not solved diplomaticly and that all talks went sour after that. Ballistic Void from your corp have also been one of the loudest people in this. Giving ultimatums like "You are either with us or againsts us" when we wanted to stay neutral in regards of your current wars. He also threw the final match on the pile of gasoline by convoing Cochise and saying that we were not allowed to use UMI-KK for traveling to Empire anymore. And there is nothing surer of getting a war than cutting PA out from empire completely, is it? It seems they were all up for it at the start, then they got spanked and blamed it all on Foyle & Co and swore they had nothing to do with it, the only FoE i saw saying anything about not wanting to shoot PA is GODS but hey they still went away and did it. F-E lost their space, they want it back, so they took the cowedly route to get it back, i hope PA/G/IRON dont let them off so easy. Maybe im wrong but this is how 90% of EVE see's it So Fugazi and Void were killing people and leading a fleet, they were doing what they are good at, dosent meant it was all there idea and F-E was the mastermind behind it, more like they were following Foyles orders. yes i see at the end of the day they were F-E pilots fighting PA but they are just grunts the like to PVP you can blame them for that.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:35:00 - [23] I had the biggest respect for biomass dood i was in the nva(As was hupa till his sly move ) If the old players arent playing then way should what they say go? im not the most active player anymore and thus i have little say in what goes on in RKK anymore. Its not just F-E the other corps are just as guility if not more so. You make your bad, you lie in it a simaliar thing happened within RKK when our CEO was away from game due to RL stuff, stuff happened which he didnt totally agree with but had to carry on with what the guys who made that decision and kept the corp going. If a High ranking memeber buggers off to another game he has no right and totally turning what those who stuck with the game decesion, if RL issues wans tht eprob it means they just uppped and left those who still wanted to play
Ender Hawks	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:43:00 - [24] I didnt want to post on this issue anymore but it seems people are greatly misinformed. F-E did not lose its territory. Not once in the past 8 months have F-E lost control of ANY stations we hold. All stations in Vale/Geminate belong to F-E and have been that way for months. There are currently 5+ posts regarding this entire incident and each one has at least a dozen people who use the following term in some form: "F-E lost its space and took the cowardly way out to get them back" You have to lose something in order to get it back.
UnrulyEvil	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:51:00 - [25] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Max what you see is that you get.
Pehova Mindtriq	Posted - 2005.04.27 18:36:00 - [26] Originally by: C4w3 As of today there will be a short statment. snip Now that's how you make a statement
Stevo	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:07:00 - [27] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE I agree 100% GL FOE - WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
Mang0o	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:35:00 - [28] FOE this FOE that.. No you just can¦t a-have-a the Mang0o
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:36:00 - [29] ok..mang0o mang0o mang0o mang0o mang0o mang0o.. happy now?! My vids and random stuff
SaorAlba	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:39:00 - [30] Originally by: Ender Hawks I didnt want to post on this issue anymore but it seems people are greatly misinformed. F-E did not lose its territory. Not once in the past 8 months have F-E lost control of ANY stations we hold. All stations in Vale/Geminate belong to F-E and have been that way for months. There are currently 5+ posts regarding this entire incident and each one has at least a dozen people who use the following term in some form: "F-E lost its space and took the cowardly way out to get them back" You have to lose something in order to get it back. Just finished bookmarking the region a few day's ago. Distribution has finished.The region is hardly populated, nor defended. Found one POS at the factory. Rolling in and out of it would take no longer then the time needed to shoot down all the station shields. At the moment it's up to the diplomats what will happen next. The -G- thugs however are ready for the job

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