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C4w3	Posted - 2005.04.27 14:37:00 - [1] As of today there will be a short statment. snip Some corps decided to leave FoE in my thinking, and from what i know as a fact stated by most CEO¦s the wasent happy with the stress and wars, i know there has been some discussion about the FoE leadership, and as i said befor desissions was made by C4w3 Foyle marichek ender hawkes number one and so on, so i feel bad that You ender dident come to me as a man to man, and talked about the matter, but thats life. FoE are still werry much intact, including our longterm friends in celts and so on. what it comes down to is a power hungry egotrip and im sad to see so many, accusing the wrong persons. C4w3 <-- out Edited for constructiveness - Jacques "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:11:00 - [2] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE My vids and random stuff
Soulis	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:15:00 - [3] damn, i read what max said before he edited it, but it made no sense to me
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:30:00 - [4] Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am
Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:50:00 - [5] Thread cleaned. Please keep it friendly, constructive and flame free thanks. {The Forum Rules} \| {Email Us!}
Zen Later	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:50:00 - [6] Edited by: Zen Later on 27/04/2005 15:50:43 Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Dear Max...actually knowing what's going on makes you comfortable in knowing you are informed. Thinking you know what's going on just makes you everybody else. P.S. Now S.A.S gets 80 gazzilion forum posts...99.5% of which will have nothing to do with S.A.S. or Max...attatched to their corp all with the name MaxSuicide . Any wagers on how long till he's in another corp?
Soulis	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Zen Later Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Dear Max...actually knowing what's going on makes comfortable in knowing you are informed. Thinking you know what's going on just makes you everybody else. P.S. Now S.A.S gets 80 gazzilion forum posts...99.5% of which will have nothing to do with S.A.S. or Max...attatched to their corp all with the name MaxSuicide . Any wagers on how long till he's in another corp?
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2005.04.27 15:55:00 - [8] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Seriously Max I have always loved your posts and consider you to be a friend in game, but you have moved corps AGAIN?? whats going on m8 why cant you settle, talk to your Uncle Ed.
darth solo	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:04:00 - [9] cool, at this rate FOE will fill the whole alliance forum.. maybe they are trying to blob up?. d solo.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:10:00 - [10] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:11:49 double My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:11:00 - [11] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:11:11 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Zen Later Edited by: Zen Later on 27/04/2005 15:50:43 Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Dear Max...actually knowing what's going on makes you comfortable in knowing you are informed. Thinking you know what's going on just makes you everybody else. P.S. Now S.A.S gets 80 gazzilion forum posts...99.5% of which will have nothing to do with S.A.S. or Max...attatched to their corp all with the name MaxSuicide . Any wagers on how long till he's in another corp? sorry, but uve been on lineage the last 4 months. i left foe because of****s like u zen. not because of wars. or just because i fancied a change. and if u didnt notice, im still fighting PA and the rest under this corp. Your (or should i say the active fe peeps) are abandoning what they started and stabbing people in the back. as they say 'KTHNXBYE!' My vids and random stuff
Hanns	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Sun Ra Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am F-E and FoE are different thing F-E is the Forsaken empire which was once a large PVP alliance but now just a small corp of long time eve players, your talking about FoE which is the pvp alliance your speaking of, which did have F-E in its ranks, althogh most of the long term F-E pilots were never 100% behind the Creation of the FoE and the addition of most of ex curse alliance. FoE lost the stations and controll coz they bit off more than they could chew, despite the warnings of the long term F-E pilots who are currently on an eve-vacation. hope this clears up some things.
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:26:00 - [13] all i can say is lol, thats what happen when you let curse rejects in controll.... Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:26:00 - [14] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:26:15 techie was the only one voicing concerns hanns. i remember a lot of FE saying 'lets pwnz0r PA!' etc maybe techie is the only one left with a sense of honour and maturity. My vids and random stuff
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:30:00 - [15] Do both sides still hate Xetic?
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Nepereta Do both sides still hate Xetic? Everyone hates xetic, its the law.
Chowdown	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Nepereta Do both sides still hate Xetic? Everyone does New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:43:00 - [18] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: Nepereta Do both sides still hate Xetic? Everyone does feels very hated ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Hanns	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:45:00 - [19] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 16:26:15 techie was the only one voicing concerns hanns. i remember a lot of FE saying 'lets pwnz0r PA!' etc maybe techie is the only one left with a sense of honour and maturity. as far as i can remeber conversations on TS with the origional F-E members including Hupa, Techie, Zen later, Numberone and myslef all said to leave PA alone because we had been NAP'd with them and respected eachothers wishes since Before the Creation of the FoE. But people still kept killing PA pilots, and not giving a ****, its hardly suprising, i would have probably done the same thing if i was PA. So any F-E members who said lets go pwn PA were probably newer pilots who wernt origionaly F-E, or it was FoE members. I cant say for shure coz i havent played eve at all lately, but i know for a fact we said not to fuc kwith PA but nobody listened.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.04.27 16:45:00 - [20] Originally by: Hanns Originally by: Sun Ra Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am F-E and FoE are different thing F-E is the Forsaken empire which was once a large PVP alliance but now just a small corp of long time eve players, your talking about FoE which is the pvp alliance your speaking of, which did have F-E in its ranks, althogh most of the long term F-E pilots were never 100% behind the Creation of the FoE and the addition of most of ex curse alliance. FoE lost the stations and controll coz they bit off more than they could chew, despite the warnings of the long term F-E pilots who are currently on an eve-vacation. hope this clears up some things. I know the history dood, but F-E the corp has have had something to do with the whole thing starting, ill quote slighlymad Quote: I do not follow you completely Ender Hawks. How can you wash FE hands on the subject of the FOE-PA war? Fugazzi from your corp has right from the beginning been on top of the barricades screaming for the destruction of PA ships. On top of that he also was LEADING the attack into HPA which more or less would guarantee that PA started to sharpen their knives. That attack made sure that the differences between our alliances was not solved diplomaticly and that all talks went sour after that. Ballistic Void from your corp have also been one of the loudest people in this. Giving ultimatums like "You are either with us or againsts us" when we wanted to stay neutral in regards of your current wars. He also threw the final match on the pile of gasoline by convoing Cochise and saying that we were not allowed to use UMI-KK for traveling to Empire anymore. And there is nothing surer of getting a war than cutting PA out from empire completely, is it? It seems they were all up for it at the start, then they got spanked and blamed it all on Foyle & Co and swore they had nothing to do with it, the only FoE i saw saying anything about not wanting to shoot PA is GODS but hey they still went away and did it. F-E lost their space, they want it back, so they took the cowedly route to get it back, i hope PA/G/IRON dont let them off so easy. Maybe im wrong but this is how 90% of EVE see's it
Dabone	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Sun Ra Originally by: Hanns Originally by: Sun Ra Whats the point of flaming c4w3 when everyone knows those who left cos they couldnt handle [G] ? All the post have been excuses we were afk/didnt reall want to/playing wow/foyle did it without us knowing. F-E are a PvP alliance yeah? well they had no one to shoot so who do u shoot? those who are right next to you cos you dont have to travel far, but seems as soon as they lost control of the stations the excuses came out. Blah dunno why im so bothered about all this but i am F-E and FoE are different thing F-E is the Forsaken empire which was once a large PVP alliance but now just a small corp of long time eve players, your talking about FoE which is the pvp alliance your speaking of, which did have F-E in its ranks, althogh most of the long term F-E pilots were never 100% behind the Creation of the FoE and the addition of most of ex curse alliance. FoE lost the stations and controll coz they bit off more than they could chew, despite the warnings of the long term F-E pilots who are currently on an eve-vacation. hope this clears up some things. I know the history dood, but F-E the corp has have had something to do with the whole thing starting, ill quote slighlymad Quote: I do not follow you completely Ender Hawks. How can you wash FE hands on the subject of the FOE-PA war? Fugazzi from your corp has right from the beginning been on top of the barricades screaming for the destruction of PA ships. On top of that he also was LEADING the attack into HPA which more or less would guarantee that PA started to sharpen their knives. That attack made sure that the differences between our alliances was not solved diplomaticly and that all talks went sour after that. Ballistic Void from your corp have also been one of the loudest people in this. Giving ultimatums like "You are either with us or againsts us" when we wanted to stay neutral in regards of your current wars. He also threw the final match on the pile of gasoline by convoing Cochise and saying that we were not allowed to use UMI-KK for traveling to Empire anymore. And there is nothing surer of getting a war than cutting PA out from empire completely, is it? It seems they were all up for it at the start, then they got spanked and blamed it all on Foyle & Co and swore they had nothing to do with it, the only FoE i saw saying anything about not wanting to shoot PA is GODS but hey they still went away and did it. F-E lost their space, they want it back, so they took the cowedly route to get it back, i hope PA/G/IRON dont let them off so easy. Maybe im wrong but this is how 90% of EVE see's it How do you know what 90% of anything sees? Fugazi is a killer no doubt, and well respected, but Hanns and others, the real old-timers in F-E (more than a year or 2), didn't want anything to do with a war with PA... Most of the old timers in F-E were former Bio-Mass cartel, the pirate org that went semi-legit. We fought the Venal Alliance, New Venal Alliance, and PA for a long time. At some point in time, I think enough mutual respect developed between FE and PA, and besides, we liked not having to worry about attack from the north. Listening to Foyle and some people talk about the ultimate war on PA, well before hostilities began, was disturbing. As if it was a forgone conclusion and she was just waiting for a pretext. Also, the most successful fights I have been in have been head up by veterans like Hupa and Havocide. I learned to go with an expendable vessel when FOE was leading the fighting. Seeing basic mistakes by fleet commanders cost people their ships was disheartening. FoE has good commanders, C4 is one of them, but lots of wannabees. Anyways, just more politics. Politics in many ways are the best and worst part of eve. And that's why you will find alot of F-E playing "L" right now... The only love in prison is the kind cigarettes can buy.
Hanns	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Sun Ra snip I know the history dood, but F-E the corp has have had something to do with the whole thing starting, ill quote slighlymad Quote: I do not follow you completely Ender Hawks. How can you wash FE hands on the subject of the FOE-PA war? Fugazzi from your corp has right from the beginning been on top of the barricades screaming for the destruction of PA ships. On top of that he also was LEADING the attack into HPA which more or less would guarantee that PA started to sharpen their knives. That attack made sure that the differences between our alliances was not solved diplomaticly and that all talks went sour after that. Ballistic Void from your corp have also been one of the loudest people in this. Giving ultimatums like "You are either with us or againsts us" when we wanted to stay neutral in regards of your current wars. He also threw the final match on the pile of gasoline by convoing Cochise and saying that we were not allowed to use UMI-KK for traveling to Empire anymore. And there is nothing surer of getting a war than cutting PA out from empire completely, is it? It seems they were all up for it at the start, then they got spanked and blamed it all on Foyle & Co and swore they had nothing to do with it, the only FoE i saw saying anything about not wanting to shoot PA is GODS but hey they still went away and did it. F-E lost their space, they want it back, so they took the cowedly route to get it back, i hope PA/G/IRON dont let them off so easy. Maybe im wrong but this is how 90% of EVE see's it So Fugazi and Void were killing people and leading a fleet, they were doing what they are good at, dosent meant it was all there idea and F-E was the mastermind behind it, more like they were following Foyles orders. yes i see at the end of the day they were F-E pilots fighting PA but they are just grunts the like to PVP you can blame them for that.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:35:00 - [23] I had the biggest respect for biomass dood i was in the nva(As was hupa till his sly move ) If the old players arent playing then way should what they say go? im not the most active player anymore and thus i have little say in what goes on in RKK anymore. Its not just F-E the other corps are just as guility if not more so. You make your bad, you lie in it a simaliar thing happened within RKK when our CEO was away from game due to RL stuff, stuff happened which he didnt totally agree with but had to carry on with what the guys who made that decision and kept the corp going. If a High ranking memeber buggers off to another game he has no right and totally turning what those who stuck with the game decesion, if RL issues wans tht eprob it means they just uppped and left those who still wanted to play
Ender Hawks	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:43:00 - [24] I didnt want to post on this issue anymore but it seems people are greatly misinformed. F-E did not lose its territory. Not once in the past 8 months have F-E lost control of ANY stations we hold. All stations in Vale/Geminate belong to F-E and have been that way for months. There are currently 5+ posts regarding this entire incident and each one has at least a dozen people who use the following term in some form: "F-E lost its space and took the cowardly way out to get them back" You have to lose something in order to get it back.
UnrulyEvil	Posted - 2005.04.27 17:51:00 - [25] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE Max what you see is that you get.
Pehova Mindtriq	Posted - 2005.04.27 18:36:00 - [26] Originally by: C4w3 As of today there will be a short statment. snip Now that's how you make a statement
Stevo	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:07:00 - [27] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 27/04/2005 15:13:04 omg this is so suprising that fe would backstab... not... GL FoE I agree 100% GL FOE - WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
Mang0o	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:35:00 - [28] FOE this FOE that.. No you just can¦t a-have-a the Mang0o
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:36:00 - [29] ok..mang0o mang0o mang0o mang0o mang0o mang0o.. happy now?! My vids and random stuff
SaorAlba	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:39:00 - [30] Originally by: Ender Hawks I didnt want to post on this issue anymore but it seems people are greatly misinformed. F-E did not lose its territory. Not once in the past 8 months have F-E lost control of ANY stations we hold. All stations in Vale/Geminate belong to F-E and have been that way for months. There are currently 5+ posts regarding this entire incident and each one has at least a dozen people who use the following term in some form: "F-E lost its space and took the cowardly way out to get them back" You have to lose something in order to get it back. Just finished bookmarking the region a few day's ago. Distribution has finished.The region is hardly populated, nor defended. Found one POS at the factory. Rolling in and out of it would take no longer then the time needed to shoot down all the station shields. At the moment it's up to the diplomats what will happen next. The -G- thugs however are ready for the job
Psychopat	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:49:00 - [31] Originally by: MAXSuicide ok..mong0o mong0o mong0o mong0o mong0o mong0o.. happy now?! Corrected -=water? Never touch the stuff,fish fock in it=-
Harakiri	Posted - 2005.04.27 19:50:00 - [32] This is my personal opinion. I find it really funny that all these corps jump ship now afterwards claiming reasons that they dont want to shoot PA .. why didnt you talk about it before the war? I know many in our corp didnt want to shoot at our oldtime friends PA and we did say so and also did leave FOE , politics sucks!
Mac Knife	Posted - 2005.04.27 20:03:00 - [33] Backstabbers will always be backstabbers. I can only say i saw this coming. Now someone else will take control of Vale and geminate then watch all the old F-E members come back and demand control over the region again and then we go around in circles
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2005.04.27 20:17:00 - [34] They are waiting for +20 Elpy's .... Mongo speaks !!
BlackKnight	Posted - 2005.04.27 23:43:00 - [35] Edited by: BlackKnight on 27/04/2005 23:42:47 If ur happy and you know it, clap your hands... /me claps hands Servent of The Scordite Gods
Zen Later	Posted - 2005.04.28 03:58:00 - [36] Originally by: MAXSuicide i left foe because of****s like u zen. not because of wars. or just because i fancied a change. and if u didnt notice, im still fighting PA and the rest under this corp. Your (or should i say the active fe peeps) are abandoning what they started and stabbing people in the back. as they say 'KTHNXBYE!' Max, Max, Max . If I'm the reason you left...thank the gaming gawds. You have no idea how happy that makes me. As the saying goes, in every crowd you get your idiot factor. The idiot factor has just been reduced by one...to the power of one million. Sad to say max but none of us have been playing L word for 4 months yet. There is only 5 actual and current F-E members not playing Eve atm. But hey, exageration is one of your strong suits. Couldn't care less who you are fighting now...as you said...you're gone and as I said...I'm damn, damn glad if it was me that helped. I'm one of the leaders of F-E and FoE Max. Yes, I'm on an extended Eve break but when asked I advised against war with PA. But hey, you know that right? Cause I don't ever remember you being there helping in any discussions...ever...with F-E leaders and other FoE leaders. Nobody got backstabbed. F-E leadership decided it was time to end the relationship with FoE and re-establish much longer and older relationships with it's northern neighbours. Yes, there were some TS shenanigans that were meant to cause temporary confusion and frustration. There are many great peeps in FoE and it's kinda sad that the party is over. But it's only a game and it's not the first nor the last time things like this will happen. If FoE lives on, more power to em and all the best. Oh...I think that's K thanx buh bye.
fugazii	Posted - 2005.04.28 04:50:00 - [37] Originally by: Hanns Originally by: Sun Ra snip I know the history dood, but F-E the corp has have had something to do with the whole thing starting, ill quote slighlymad Quote: I do not follow you completely Ender Hawks. How can you wash FE hands on the subject of the FOE-PA war? Fugazzi from your corp has right from the beginning been on top of the barricades screaming for the destruction of PA ships. On top of that he also was LEADING the attack into HPA which more or less would guarantee that PA started to sharpen their knives. That attack made sure that the differences between our alliances was not solved diplomaticly and that all talks went sour after that. Ballistic Void from your corp have also been one of the loudest people in this. Giving ultimatums like "You are either with us or againsts us" when we wanted to stay neutral in regards of your current wars. He also threw the final match on the pile of gasoline by convoing Cochise and saying that we were not allowed to use UMI-KK for traveling to Empire anymore. And there is nothing surer of getting a war than cutting PA out from empire completely, is it? It seems they were all up for it at the start, then they got spanked and blamed it all on Foyle & Co and swore they had nothing to do with it, the only FoE i saw saying anything about not wanting to shoot PA is GODS but hey they still went away and did it. F-E lost their space, they want it back, so they took the cowedly route to get it back, i hope PA/G/IRON dont let them off so easy. Maybe im wrong but this is how 90% of EVE see's it So Fugazi and Void were killing people and leading a fleet, they were doing what they are good at, dosent meant it was all there idea and F-E was the mastermind behind it, more like they were following Foyles orders. yes i see at the end of the day they were F-E pilots fighting PA but they are just grunts the like to PVP you can blame them for that. to clarify, i have nvr lead a fleet(so stop making me primary). yes i was one of the ppl asking for the war, wont deny that. im not a director nor in any position of authority in foe or fe, listening to me is to say the least irrisponsible of foyle because i should of been held in no regard to decisions in the alliance, theres directors for a reason. when we first went up to h-p, we were sitting round obe doin nothing when foyle said we should go up to h-p to fight them. a couple of us asked if we should wait till the alliance leaders were on, she said it didnt matter and shed deal w/marichek later.
un5een	Posted - 2005.04.28 05:26:00 - [38] i have no clue behind all the foe internals... but foe is/"was" imo the best enemy we ever had. maybe not in their results but local was always clean. i cant remember a single smack! thx ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one! G
Cyan Gadarin	Posted - 2005.04.28 06:40:00 - [39] For those of you who did'nt understand what Fugazi was saying i'll break it down.... "I wanted to fight PA but now that I realize that so many people love PA's money I'll try to mislead people while I BACKSTAB my friends so I can try to keep what little I can." It should be clear to anyone that F-E is trying to save it's own ass by throwing the people they've been fighting alongside to the wolves. If F-E would have said "C4 and Foyle we disagreed when this all started and we're going our own way" that would have been respectfull. But instead F-E not only went behind C4's and Foyle's back, but then engaged in childish antics kicking people from a TS server not thier own and temporarily screwing the people who would of done anything to protect the space they shared. If that's not backstabbing I don't know what is. F-E can bring back everyone from lineage, wow, whatever but it does'nt change the fact that F-E is not what it used to be and never will. And unless you can persuade PA and G to trust people who obviously have loyalties only when it's conveneient to them maybe you can save a fraction of what you had before. Those that fought because they were told to do so or voiced thier opinions before and during are not part of who I'm reffering to. I in no way speak for or voice the opinion of anyone but myself.
Koval	Posted - 2005.04.28 07:03:00 - [40] Originally by: Cyan Gadarin For those of you who did'nt understand what Fugazi was saying i'll break it down.... "I wanted to fight PA but now that I realize that so many people love PA's money [...] wot?? that sounds interesting, could you say something more about "pa's money" please ? :)
Wendat Huron	Posted - 2005.04.28 07:24:00 - [41] Originally by: C4w3 what it comes down to is a power hungry egotrip and im sad to see so many, accusing the wrong persons. C4w3 <-- out Edited for constructiveness - Jacques Now that's evil for you.
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.04.28 07:42:00 - [42] Edited by: pershphanie on 28/04/2005 08:26:45 Originally by: Cyan Gadarin For those of you who did'nt understand what Fugazi was saying i'll break it down.... "I wanted to fight PA but now that I realize that so many people love PA's money I'll try to mislead people while I BACKSTAB my friends so I can try to keep what little I can." It should be clear to anyone that F-E is trying to save it's own ass by throwing the people they've been fighting alongside to the wolves. For those of you who did'nt understand what Cyan was saying i'll break it down.... F-E in its unwillingness to let Foe leadership run their corp into the ground decided to do what is in the best interest of there corp, their friends, and their neibors in order to help stabilze the north. Quote: If F-E would have said "C4 and Foyle we disagreed when this all started and we're going our own way" that would have been respectfull. In other words..... " If FE wanted to leave foe, give up their station and leave their rightfull home that would make foe leadership and another corp ill leave nameless happy. Quote: But instead F-E not only went behind C4's and Foyle's back, but then engaged in childish antics kicking people from a TS server not thier own and temporarily screwing the people who would of done anything to protect the space they shared. If that's not backstabbing I don't know what is. translation: "but instead F-E decided FOE was not welcome in their space anymore so we decided to cry about it. Us having our TS down for an hour gives us a great reason to cry about it and try and manipulate Ender through guilt trips. My response: The Foe ts server goes down for about an hour per day anyways. That in no way screws you over more than you normally screw yourselves over by useing that crappy TS server. Get over yourself drama queen. And btw - that post you did about me being a closet carebear made my day. I guess my cover is blown. Its true. Krullz has compramising screen shots of me in a mammoth. I always knew that would come back to haunt me.
fugazii	Posted - 2005.04.28 08:06:00 - [43] Originally by: Cyan Gadarin For those of you who did'nt understand what Fugazi was saying i'll break it down.... "I wanted to fight PA but now that I realize that so many people love PA's money I'll try to mislead people while I BACKSTAB my friends so I can try to keep what little I can." wtf r u talking about? im not misleading anyone, i told my story from what i saw and participated in, were u there the night we attacked pa? ive nvr backstabbed any of my friends, and i nvr plan on doin so. obviously most of foe agree's w/what happened considering your numbers dropped by more than half in the span of a day. stop crying, start fighting and prove us wrong.
Noob Esquire	Posted - 2005.04.28 08:26:00 - [44] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Cyan Gadarin For those of you who did'nt understand what Fugazi was saying i'll break it down.... "I wanted to fight PA but now that I realize that so many people love PA's money I'll try to mislead people while I BACKSTAB my friends so I can try to keep what little I can." wtf r u talking about? im not misleading anyone, i told my story from what i saw and participated in, were u there the night we attacked pa? ive nvr backstabbed any of my friends, and i nvr plan on doin so. obviously most of foe agree's w/what happened considering your numbers dropped by more than half in the span of a day. stop crying, start fighting and prove us wrong. Atleast you live up to your name. Xendie PWN's Himself
Cyan Gadarin	Posted - 2005.04.28 16:17:00 - [45] Edited by: Cyan Gadarin on 28/04/2005 16:20:17 Yes I was there. Misleading may not have been the correct word I agree, COWARD may have been more fitting. I was not reffering to TS being down as a set back that was remedied within 20 minutes no biggie. The way in which F-E left was what I was reffering to there. GODS= a bunch of good guys....and then persph
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.28 16:20:00 - [46] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 28/04/2005 08:26:45 Originally by: Cyan Gadarin For those of you who did'nt understand what Fugazi was saying i'll break it down.... "I wanted to fight PA but now that I realize that so many people love PA's money I'll try to mislead people while I BACKSTAB my friends so I can try to keep what little I can." It should be clear to anyone that F-E is trying to save it's own ass by throwing the people they've been fighting alongside to the wolves. For those of you who did'nt understand what Cyan was saying i'll break it down.... F-E in its unwillingness to let Foe leadership run their corp into the ground decided to do what is in the best interest of there corp, their friends, and their neibors in order to help stabilze the north. Quote: If F-E would have said "C4 and Foyle we disagreed when this all started and we're going our own way" that would have been respectfull. In other words..... " If FE wanted to leave foe, give up their station and leave their rightfull home that would make foe leadership and another corp ill leave nameless happy. Quote: But instead F-E not only went behind C4's and Foyle's back, but then engaged in childish antics kicking people from a TS server not thier own and temporarily screwing the people who would of done anything to protect the space they shared. If that's not backstabbing I don't know what is. translation: "but instead F-E decided FOE was not welcome in their space anymore so we decided to cry about it. Us having our TS down for an hour gives us a great reason to cry about it and try and manipulate Ender through guilt trips. My response: The Foe ts server goes down for about an hour per day anyways. That in no way screws you over more than you normally screw yourselves over by useing that crappy TS server. Get over yourself drama queen. And btw - that post you did about me being a closet carebear made my day. I guess my cover is blown. Its true. Krullz has compramising screen shots of me in a mammoth. I always knew that would come back to haunt me. FoE leadership involved fe. as for the rest. heh My vids and random stuff
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2005.04.28 21:06:00 - [47] max after number 1 F-E "leadership" (CEO) was never on but for 4 hours a week on sunday. --------------------------------------------
Nixeh	Posted - 2005.04.30 03:40:00 - [48] Edited by: Nixeh on 02/05/2005 00:25:01 Hand bags at 50 pace's lady's snip
Balistic Void	Posted - 2005.04.30 03:45:00 - [49] Edited by: Balistic Void on 30/04/2005 03:50:12 Nixeh as an old buddy I'm gonna ask you nicely to stfu plz. Convo me ingame if you want answers. (bv=stardog)
Rekit	Posted - 2005.04.30 04:56:00 - [50] Originally by: MAXSuicide omg this is so suprising that FE would backstab... not... GL FoE Max sucide. you are one to talk about FE back stabing you? and that FE cant handle G? Last week d7 was raided, taken control by G amongst others. While a select few from what was the FoE alliance gathered in SS, and formed a small force, many refused from empire to come and help hold their space, and fight alongside their fellow alliance members. The aim for most of us ganged, was to form a large enough force to reclaim the station... took 7 hours to form a gang strong enough to take back the station, by then to late, P3 was blockaded, and those reinfocments could not help nor get to d7. many still tried to help, reclaim the station. not you! there we are surrounded by hostiles, and you are there chating in local tryingto hit on and be recruited by G. and insulting all current FoE members G turned around and explained that they would help you get intouch with another corps in the alliance so you could jump fence. at this time you were declaired -10 hostile to FoE because of you behaviour and actions. Now who is back stabing who? who is loyal to their corps and alliance? I cannot speak officially for my corps, nor FoE the alliance i had been part of since day one, nor the group i am flying with now. But the way i see it in my eyes why FoE cant and will not survive... carebears and un-loyal flamers. Carebears, willing to mine out in 0.0 make loads of isk, at the expense of others who are willing to fight and defend their space at all costs. FoE became carebear heavy. max, just stop flamming FoE, FE and all the rest you flame. everybody has their own reasons why they left FoE, and myself, it was the carebears, my loyalty to FE and not having to put my neck on the line for people who are not willing to contribute to any situation. I lost ships in the last few weeks of being a member of FoE, defending a station that i have never ever even docked in, so carebears can go out there mine, and make isk. sound fair? But i didnt jump ships, windge in local, alliance, flame the boards, and insult those who fought by your side all this time. Max, got nothing nice/constructive to say? then dont say anything! No point flamming because it will achieve nothing dying, politics, pvp, all part of the game
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2005.05.02 14:32:00 - [51] Why do you keep jumping corps Max? send me an eve mail in game m8 cos as a mate I would like to know, my personal opinion is that these bad boy corps cant keep the maxter under control, aye!
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.05.02 15:34:00 - [52] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 02/05/2005 15:38:06 lmfao? lets get this straight rekit. G: German Alliance. GERMAN being the key word here. i am not german, therefore i cant get in there. having nice convosations with the enemies in local isnt a bad thing rekit. i asked for passage to get out, because i was fed up of being messed around and insulted daily by FE leadership for the short time they were online. i was not insulting all the foe members in local, if i was i dont think i would still be friends with a lot of them would i? I spoke to the G leader person for a while after that, i asked 'so what r u gonna do when u leave FoE?' i said 'no idea' i explained all this on the foe forums, before fe took it down. so i really cba to explain it all again. My vids and random stuff
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.05.02 15:51:00 - [53] Max is absolutely right in his telling, it was exactly as he described. [G] - Pink Power
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.05.02 18:25:00 - [54] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 02/05/2005 18:25:14 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Max is absolutely right in his telling, it was exactly as he described. dont worry rekit, ill accept your inevitable apology in advance. ty woodlouse for backing me up there ;) My vids and random stuff

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