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AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.11.27 08:31:00 -
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I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.
Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted -ú35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****? Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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Ghazu
300
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Posted - 2012.11.27 08:41:00 -
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I know what you mean, it's hard to explain it's just EVE. http://www.minerbumping.com/ |

baltec1
Bat Country
2955
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Posted - 2012.11.27 08:42:00 -
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Thats the EVE effect. I cant play any other MMO these days because they all lack the risk, freedom and industry this game offers. I ended up with a warning in STO for saying that I was a cyno pilot from EVE looking for targets in my bio. Although I have to say that planetside 2 is so much fun when played with others. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5635
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Posted - 2012.11.27 08:58:00 -
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I agreed with the above posters. Other games simply have no attraction.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
194
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:03:00 -
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Heh, since I started playing Eve little over a year ago I was able only enjoy Max Payne 3, Limbo and recently Deadlight. Max because of sentiment for previous part, Limbo and Deadlight because they are little pieces of art and survival gems. I don't care about shooters and RTSs, never was really into MMOs.
And there is Eve where I can spend hours doing, well - sometimes doing nothing really in game but a lot around it like fiddling with fits, reading stuff, forum pvp and trololo. Sometimes I giggle like a little girl and I catch a funny looks from my wife and how can I explain to her that my corpies I listen to on comms just went on hilarious discussion about this or that? And she always wants something from me exactly when our fleet finally found someone to shoot at. And why I have a picture of this blond blind chick on my screen?
Well, I don't play other games anymore, I have Eve. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2022
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:05:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Heh, since I started playing Eve little over a year ago I was able only enjoy Max Payne 3, Limbo and recently Deadlight. Max because of sentiment for previous part, Limbo and Deadlight because they are little pieces of art and survival gems. I don't care about shooters and RTSs, never was really into MMOs.
And there is Eve where I can spend hours doing, well - sometimes doing nothing really in game but a lot around it like fiddling with fits, reading stuff, forum pvp and trololo. Sometimes I giggle like a little girl and I catch a funny looks from my wife and how can I explain to her that my corpies I listen to on comms just went on hilarious discussion about this or that? And she always wants something from me exactly when our fleet finally found someone to shoot at. And why I have a picture of this blond blind chick on my screen?
Well, I don't play other games anymore, I have Eve. I really enjoyed Limbo. Did they make another?
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
194
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:11:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:I really enjoyed Limbo.  Did they make another?
According to wikipedia they are working on second game planned for release in 2013-2014
Quote:According to Patti, as of October 2010, Playdead is currently working on its second game; the game, partially funded by the Danish Film Institute, has the working title of Project 2. Project 2 is described by the Danish newspaper Politiken as a spiritual sequel to Limbo. It is a 2.5D platform game, using three dimensional graphics while the playfield remains in two dimensions, and utilizes the Unity engine; Playdead opted for the existing solution instead of their custom-built engine they had created for Limbo, to reduce their efforts. While the game is in color, the title remains dark and nearly monotone in color. It is planned for release on Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360 systems. According to an August 2011 interview with Patti, the title's development cycle will take about three and a half years.
Deadlight is from another company, zombie survival horror platform game. Steam has now Autumn Sale and you can get it for 8.99 euro so basically free :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Battle On
Jita Exiles Strategic Warfare Operations Command
10
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:13:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.
Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted -ú35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
once you go eve you never go back! ;-) [Service] Battle On's Custom and Colored Overviews! |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Intrepid Crossing
84
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:14:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote: Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
we all get older , you're not the only one, yes there is a lot of shite games these days.
I believe what you are suffering from is burn out, it happens to the best of us, take a break away from gaming for a while. you'll come back refreshed. |

Beckie DeLey
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:31:00 -
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When i don't play EVE, it's usually because i am playing something Co-Op with friends (who for the life of them won't touch EVE, their frustration threshold is too low). Borderlands, Orks must Die 2, Trine 2, Minecraft. Doesn't really matter as long as we can hang out in Skype talking trash while playing.
Everything else can't really keep me playing for a long time. Except those sandboxy games like Saints Row or Prototype. I can play those for hours still.
But yeah, it's hard to find games that can compete with EVE for when my buddies aren't online. So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve There i am preparing a guide to all things related to manufacturing. Check it out!
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Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
403
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:39:00 -
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Can't say I feel the same way if I'm being honest. I enjoy too many types of games to play just play Eve.
Even if I wake up one morning and Eve has magically turned into this perfect, ultimate game that somehow seemlessly included every genre under the sun, I'd still play other games. It's why I love the medium in the first place. I can play 100 slightly different, great games that all fit into one genre and walk away with 100 different, lasting experiences. |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2022
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:42:00 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:AndromacheDarkstar wrote: Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****? we all get older , you're not the only one, yes there is a lot of shite games these days. I believe what you are suffering from is burn out, it happens to the best of us, take a break away from gaming for a while. you'll come back refreshed.
What everyone forgets is all the crappy games they played, music they listened to, movies they watched as a kid. So as people become older and look back at their childhood growing up they always seem to think back then - that's when the good stuff was being made damn it! right? - and now everything is a remake or crap or trash or something else that simply doesn't compare to how epic the games they played, music they listened to or movies they watched.
It is just how we remember things. I promise you most of the games you played were crap.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Elliot Vodka
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:44:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.
Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted -ú35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
Dare light each word we speak the same, till dawn we cry on games we claim.
I was about to go but got bored. Yea that pretty much sums it up. The only other game i cant put down is Arma 2.
Dishonored was definitly worth and, borderlands 2 was fun co op. Everything else just keeps getting worse. Why is it that people think this game is for everyone?A better question would be "Why do some people think this game is only for them?" |

Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:45:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote: What everyone forgets is all the crappy games they played, music they listened to, movies they watched as a kid. So as people become older and look back at their childhood growing up they always seem to think back then - that's when the good stuff was being made damn it! right? - and now everything is a remake or crap or trash or something else that simply doesn't compare to how epic the games they played, music they listened to or movies they watched.
It is just how we remember things. I promise you most of the games you played were crap.
There is still a soft spot in my heart for Megamania on Atari 2600. |

March rabbit
Aliastra
270
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:47:00 -
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i really dunno 
after 2 years of Eve i play other games as well. Buying something on Steam every weekend and every discount. There is so many games i knew.... 
Eve accounts are subbed for next year, skills are ticking... However right now i have more interesting stuff to do |

Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
108
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Posted - 2012.11.27 09:54:00 -
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In EVE, I find a level of depth and complexity that is hard to find in other games and when other EVE players tell me that they are struggling to get into Planetside 2 because they don't get it, I mockingly laugh at them.
I still enjoy games but I would say that EVE (despite its own flaws) has made me into a very spoiled gamer than I was before. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |

AP John
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
3
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:02:00 -
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I play what ever can be shorten in 3 letters (EvE, Lol, WoT) :D as long as we have friends to play with. |

Christ Illusion
Atrocity Vendors
8
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:23:00 -
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That's my problem too  |

Kiteo Hatto
Equanimity Order
292
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Posted - 2012.11.27 10:31:00 -
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Its because other games don't make you invest so much in them, time and knowledge wise. Thats also why if you quit a.k.a "take a break" from EVE you will come back eventually. "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like." - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
655

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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:04:00 -
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Almost seven years ago I played all sorts of games. My MMO of choice was City of Heroes. I had a PS2 with a ton of games on it. I had a bunch of games on my PC too. I'd spend an hour or two online a night, playing CoH, then maybe throw in Madden 2006, or one of the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms games, or Kingdom Hearts II, or Dragon Quest VIII, or, just, whatever.
Then I started playing EVE. I spent my first month playing 8+ hours a day. I would wake up in the middle of the night to set a skill (no queue back then). I joined a corp, had it die, joined another one. Looked at the Crusader and loved how it looked, so I quickly trained up to fly an Interceptor even though I couldn't use MWDs or T2 Small Lasers or half of the other things I needed to make it fly WELL.
Six months in, I applied for ISD Aurora because six months was the minimum time allowed before I could. I got in. I wrote a story for EON, got promoted because of it. Dedicated more and more time for it.
I lost ships in PVP and killed a few. Got somewhat better, but not great. Never great, just good enough.
At first, I was unemployed so I could spend time playing other games besides EVE. But then I became an adult and got real jobs and suddenly didn't have time to play the newest Zelda game. Hey, Bioshock looks cool, but man... No time! Got dudes to kill in EVE. Screw Bayonetta, someone's trying to blow up our POS.
And now I've got a job working on EVE.
So yeah, I know the sentiment. Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
217
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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:12:00 -
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I didn't play any MMO's before EvE. I won't touch any other either :) Tried SWTOR, was shocked how short termed it is (besides, I sucked at pvp as I do in EvE).
In shooters genre I played alot until BF2. After EA ****** up this game with Patch 1.3, I was really pissed and didn't touch any shooters anymore until BF3.
So, EvE was and is still "my game" because I can do what I want, can socialize, can hate people, can go aggro and can lose everything. I cannot reach any endgame ever. I love it. Open end etc. _______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
278
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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:12:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I ended up with a warning in STO for saying that I was a cyno pilot from EVE looking for targets in my bio
There's a story about some guy who wrote a "I'm 12 and what is this" post on an MMO forum (either SWTOR or STO, can't remember) and got banned because the Eula states you have to be 13 and over.
Amat victoria curam. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
200
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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:34:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:baltec1 wrote:I ended up with a warning in STO for saying that I was a cyno pilot from EVE looking for targets in my bio There's a story about some guy who wrote a "I'm 12 and what is this" post on an MMO forum (either SWTOR or STO, can't remember) and got banned because the Eula states you have to be 13 and over.
That was SWTOR. AND a joke. But what else can you expect from those greedy EAware suits that turn everything they touch to ashes?
I like reading their forums for the unending stream of drama/whining there (which apparently isn-¦t unfounded, that game is going down the drain since its start) which makes the Eve Online community manly and hardarse by comparison - even at the height of miner extermination. 
Anyway, never played a MMO before Eve... never wanted to. I was interested in World of Darkness IF it would have kept the the general tone; I even recall an interview that theorized about permadeath in WoD but meh...
As for other games, there are a few, usually at least a year or so after initial release when they are cheap and free of bugs; at present The Witcher 2. (Still have to finish Dragonage 1 as well ) Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |

AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
168
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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:46:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:Its because other games don't make you invest so much in them, time and knowledge wise. Thats also why if you quit a.k.a "take a break" from EVE you will come back eventually.
Yeah in my short time in eve ive already been there and done that, its nice ot hear people with the same experiance stepping up. Maybe it is really a part of having children and a demanding full time job, the time i get spare to play id rather be playing something worthwhile where i feel like im making an impact and achieving something Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
107
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:17:00 -
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Got exactly same problem. Used to play Lineage 2, Aion and after that i found EVE. Been playing it for over 3 years and i have yet to find game which is at least a tiny bit as fullfilling as EVE. Tried GW2 lately with no big effect. Only shades of grey.
There were some sinngleplayer games tho that gave me some of this "old feeling" back (nw XCOM, Deus EX HR, Mass Effect 3) |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Intrepid Crossing
84
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:28:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:AndromacheDarkstar wrote: Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****? we all get older , you're not the only one, yes there is a lot of shite games these days. I believe what you are suffering from is burn out, it happens to the best of us, take a break away from gaming for a while. you'll come back refreshed. What everyone forgets is all the crappy games they played, music they listened to, movies they watched as a kid. So as people become older and look back at their childhood growing up they always seem to think back then - that's when the good stuff was being made damn it! right? - and now everything is a remake or crap or trash or something else that simply doesn't compare to how epic the games they played, music they listened to or movies they watched. It is just how we remember things. I promise you most of the games you played were crap.
oh i remember alright, and yes,, lots of them where indeed crap lol, but s the years went by the crap mutiplied, i'm sure with that you'll agree yes ?  |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
263
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:47:00 -
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Maybe you are a Graymer just like me. Have a look at this nice article Games Don't Need Saving. New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |

StonerPhReaK
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
83
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Posted - 2012.11.27 12:56:00 -
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Eve isnt a game. Eve is real!
All other games are the same. Cost $60 just to get new maps and updated shadows. Once you have played one fps you pretty much played all of them. Capture the flag, Team deathmatch, same stuff since quake. The same can be said for racing, RTS, sim, You name it. They are all pretty much the same. Im surprised people still pay for the same repackaged stuff.
But Eve... Eve is REAL. Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva |

Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
35
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:15:00 -
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I never really bothered with games until a friend showed me Wing Commander. I was blown away. Didn't touch anything after that for a long time. Then another buddy turned me onto MW2 and the multiplayer aspect of gaming. It escalated to UT and PS, and when Sony inevitably ruined that game I stumbled onto EVE for the second time and never looked back. Since then few games have been able to hold my interest. So you are not alone. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
266
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:19:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I agreed with the above posters. Other games simply have no attraction.
This, they are also not challenging at all compared to EVE.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
455
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:32:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.
Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted -ú35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
Games are better than ever, its YOU (and me) who changed. EVE is a game for adults (despite what yo see on the GD forums :) ), after you really experience it and the few games like it everything else seems unworthy of attention.
It's like after the 1st time you have sex, "making out" and "heavy petting" was great when that was all you cold get, now it doesn't quite cut the mustard lol.
It's while I rail so hard against the short-sighted carebears who post in this forum, the don't understand that a lot of the things they keep asking for are tings that would water EVE down to the level of.....every damn thing that isn't EVE.
CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
482
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Posted - 2012.11.27 13:38:00 -
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I'm completely in the same boat. Sure i can complain about eve as much as the next guy but it's pretty much the only game that holds my attention.
I still like to keep my ear to the round for any new/interesting games (FTL, DayZ, etc.) but i hardly ever buy full price new games anymore. They see me trolling, they hating... |

Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
434
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:04:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
Aging is part of it, plus your preferences evolve.
For example, I found Diablo 2 very entertaining and spent a lot of time playing it. I was still in college then. This year, when Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2 came out, I realized I had absolutely zero interest on those kinds of games any more. The entire genre left me cold.
Having said that, the last little while I have been enjoying Hitman Absolution. Yes, it's not Blood Money, and it moved closer to Splinter Cell series with some stealth mechanics, and the scoring system is a bloody joke compared to Blood Money's cash rewards and weapon customization. Other things as well. But graphics, storytelling and humor really sold the game for me. I'm about 80% done with it, and so far I'm quite happy with it. Would I have preferred Blood Money, re-done, with these graphics and storytelling instead of what I got? Sure. But this is different, and some of it in a good way. Purist mode is still challenging as hell.
As far as swearing off other games because of any one game? Honestly, I pity people who did that. You missed out on so many amazing games over the years if you did that. |

Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
301
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:12:00 -
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sounds like someone needs dark souls :) |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:19:00 -
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Given the length of my history with EVE and all the stuff I've done, I'm just going to agree.
Writing a post about it would make everyone TL;DR 
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highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
404
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:35:00 -
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If it weren't for other games, I would have quit eve a long time ago. I have to have some battlefield every now and then or I go crazy. EVE can become a bit of a grind sometimes. Grinding anoms for isk, staring at rocks, or getting in the same fleets over and over.
eve can get stale if you're not careful
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Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
46
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:45:00 -
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I have to agree I used to play a lot of different games, and now mostly its just eve. I think it is all to do with the amount of time you have. I dont have lots and lots of spare time, so if I have an hour or two to play a game in the evening, then it always ends up being EVE. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1628
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:01:00 -
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Same here, at least for MMOs, I used to be that person who tried out every "big" stuff that came out right on it's first day, just to get that "leverage". I'm not quite sure if it's a good thing though since everytime I tried playing another MMO it's either gets boring pretty fast, feels like it was made for 13 year olds or in short totally unattractive. How to : Playing Eve 100% Risk and Conflict FREE! |

Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
137
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:18:00 -
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I find EVE is an incredibly unique jewel amongst games. First of all, for me personally, I'm a sci-fi fan from way back. When I was a kid, I used to transpose the Dungeons & Dragons rules onto a spaceship game I designed, and had a stack of cool starship designs myself that I'd draw on graphics paper and written up stats and abilities for them. I've never had friends who were in to the same stuff as me - actually, as an autistic kid, I never really had many friends at all, but it didn't matter cuz I had my game.
I haven't been capable of changing much in the way of socialisation, that is, until the internet came along. Because of social networking online, I've been able to develop a social life that I'm just not capable of in "the flesh". Sure I've got a very small circle of very good friends, and I've even been able to hold down relationships with girls occasionally, but I'm not really interested in that anymore. The greatest achievement of my life, the ability to interact with other people on a social level without having to make eye contact and still actually have legitimate social discourse, was made possible because of the internet.
And now the game I created for myself as a kid, using dice and self-written rulebooks and paper, is here on the internet, where I'm kinda making more friends. Now don't get me wrong, I do have a real world life - it's taken a while to establish myself a bit of a niche (which was made difficult by my developmental shortcomings and the fact that I've moved more times than I can count therefore never been able to build myself up in one geophysical location). I'm currently studying journalism via online correspondence (which is yet another way the internet has saved my ****), and I intend to work in investigative journalism when I'm through. I'll be looking for my first internship this coming year, which with my grades thus far won't be too hard.
But this game is my downtime. This game is my real world when the real real world isn't important. This game is an alternate reality, and in a sense, for me personally, it's kinda become my primary reality, and everything I do in the other reality, studying and working, is done out of necessity only.
But I live in EVE. Not because I have no life or friends, though, but because it's where I choose to be. CCP have created something that I've always wanted. I really couldn't ask for anything more. And I really don't. My life is satisfied, and I will die a happy man even if nothing else ever comes my way.
Here, the internet combines with my love of the science fiction fantasy that I've always been living already, in between doing what's necessary with my life. I do play other games, though - I love Halo and Mass Effect (though more for the stories than the gameplay), Forza Motorsport (the only car collection I'll ever need - I'm easily satisfied), and Fallout are my primaries. I love air combat simulators, too - I wanted to be a fighter pilot growing up. I got the grades to go to ADFA, but my developmental issues kept me from getting in. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Reicine Ceer
Phoenix of the Black Sun Wrong Hole.
115
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:30:00 -
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Agreed. What follows is needless tl;dr reminiscence.
I'm 30.
Brought up on computer games, starting with the epic Manic Miner on the ZX Spectrum. This game was infuriatingly addictive! At one point, my dad got the speccy one of those external drives (similar to a zip drive i suppose) and lo, it was good. As the years fell off the calendar, the ol' computron was replaced by a stunningly powerful workhorse known as the Amiga 500. D-Paint IV, anyone? A trillion floppy disks accompanied it, and it was perhaps another 5 years or so before i realised that people paid for games, and that they came in their very own boxes. The '500 was eventually replaced by the 1200 (OMFG! Seven hundred more... somethings!!) and by this time my gaming career had seen me spend almost unacceptably long periods of time playing Gods, Street Fighter II, Banshee, The Settlers, Cannon Fodder, Tanx, and perhaps several dozen more. "Distracting" was putting it mildly. At this point I believe my parents thought there was real danger of me becoming some sort of limp-wristed shut in, hissing at natural light in a Golem-like manner. I was churning through school and fiction books at a prodigious rate, and these new "Home Computers" that people were buying up were just for doing the accounts on anyways, and why bother worrying, ey? Our new 'PC' was bought about a month before the bottom fell out the market, during a time where it was cheaper to buy gold than it was to buy memory for your computer. Needless to say, Father was not impressed when this happened, but it didn't matter to me in the slightest. I had a new platform with which to play games on (even at a young age, i tended to look down on consoles as kiddy toys). Command & Conquer. Dear god, what a goldmine that was. I lost *days* to that blasted game. I perfected the tank rush without having heard of the concept, and when Red Alert was released with a map editor, my friend and i would spend long periods of time carving battlefields to fight in, and writing up short fiction to go with it ("Good evening commander! The enemy lies on an island close to where your MCU is deployed... wipe them out), silently brush-passing the floppy disk with the new map on it while we were in school. Good times. Also, laughing myself almost-sick when rushing an NPC base with about 50 attack dogs (unit ready unit ready unit ready unit ready unit ready...), not realising that their Flame Towers would incinerate my canine units immediately. Lesson learned, eh! Ahhhh Duke Nukem, how i missed your misogynistic and surprisingly casual attitude toward exploding women to spawn enemies to shoot! Secret rooms, rocket launchers, quips - this game had it all. I played that game to death, completing it twice. The quicksave button got hammered during the maps in space; utterly terrifying at times. Well, for a young me anyways. The Devastator still has to be one of my favourite FPS weapons ever. Wait a minute, there's this new game called "Half Life". It has... well, this strange attraction. Again - played to death repeatedly. Never got bored of it.
Quake 2 CTF. At least 400 hours' playtime. Railgun kills from across the map became a speciality.
...ah. Counter-strike. How you mock me with your addictive 5 minute rounds. Those almost-affordable guns (JUST ONE MORE ROUND) and satisfying weapons made for the most intense action i'd ever seen. People were rage machines just waiting to get killed, venting their bitter spleens across the internet in the hopes of insulting your mother. What an age to be alive!
Anyways... I've caught myself rambling. The real point is that i never "got" MMO/MMORPG games until my friend at work said "There is a star wars mmorpg coming out. Play it" - and i did. For years, I played SWG faithfully - creating friendships and stories that were forever memorable. I had a great time - I trained massive, dangerous creatures, fought hugely powerful NPCs with groups of like-minded individuals, laughed at the spam in Corellia and got to grips with a market system that hilariously limited anything you bought to 6000 credits (a measely figure - imagine going to Jita and everything being capped at 1million isk!). I made lasting real world relationships, and occasionally would spend hours fishing with an almost-perfect quality rod i bought for 6000 credits. Then came the Dark Times....a gutting of the game from over 30 professions to something like 7 - the "NGE", or "New Game Enhancements" were a slap in the face to anyone that's ever sat down in front of a computer. Imagine someone hollowing out your pet, replacing it with excrement and seaweed, giving it back to you and looking insulted when you screw your nose up and almost vomit. This was the NGE; this was the end of my SWG life. Finding it hard to deal with (honestly, thinking about it still makes me kinda angry/sad), i asked my longtime friend to meet me on Tatooine. This guy had actually been a friend since Day 2 - saving me from getting messed up by NPCs as i tried circle-strafing a creature, not realising that the weapons were affected by things like range and all that. Anyways, he meets me near the Krayt Graveyard. I give him about half a billion credits, and all of the best 'stuff' i had accumulated over the years. There was *a lot* of it. After this, i /emoted a hug, and then saluted before running off toward a massive Krayt dragon (a huge reptile about a thousand times my size). I kicked it in the face, and died. I /tell my friend, "Goodbye" and uninstall SWG forever.
Meanwhile, another real-life friend of mine has been playing some sort of space-sim for a few years or so, and recommended i give it a go. "EVE Online", eh? Naeh. Looks boring.
...started playing in 2008. Haven't looked back since. Its just better than real life, tbh. Why bother with anything else? |

BJ McGreaves
NEWB ALERT Rookie Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:33:00 -
[41] - Quote
I have to add a thought here.
Diablo 3, terrible game, we all know.
BUT. If you are interested in playing an ARPG where you choices actually matter...in terms of how you level up your character...PLEASE try Path of Exile.
Seriously. It will only cost you 10 dollars.
The dev crew is based out of New Zealand and they got like 30 people on their team.
Amazing game.
if you loved d2, give PoE a chance.
Path of Exile = Diablo 2.5 |

Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
25
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:33:00 -
[42] - Quote
Eve was the 1st MMO I ever played and most likely the only one I will take seriously. I have downloaded a few others since I started playing but none could hold a candle to this sandbox we live in. Eve is a game you hate or love and if you do you love it you will be here to the servers implode  Oderint Dum Metuant |

Reicine Ceer
Phoenix of the Black Sun Wrong Hole.
116
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:36:00 -
[43] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote: But I live in EVE. Not because I have no life or friends, though, but because it's where I choose to be. CCP have created something that I've always wanted. I really couldn't ask for anything more. And I really don't. My life is satisfied, and I will die a happy man even if nothing else ever comes my way.
Here, the internet combines with my love of the science fiction fantasy that I've always been living already, in between doing what's necessary with my life.
This. A thousand times, this. If there was a way to inject my consciousness into the EVE Universe, i'd cast off this physical shell and wave bye-bye to everyone i know *immediately*. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
456
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:54:00 -
[44] - Quote
Reicine Ceer wrote:
This. A thousand times, this. If there was a way to inject my consciousness into the EVE Universe, i'd cast off this physical shell and wave bye-bye to everyone i know *immediately*.
As much as I love EVE I'd never do that, someone at CCP might get mad at me, flip a switch and POW, next thing I know I'm in a Damn Vampire game sucking Blood while having to listen to Carebears whine about how they don't like blood sucking ....IN A VAMPIRE GAME..... CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |

AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
177
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:05:00 -
[45] - Quote
Excellent article, described me perfectly which i suppose isnt hard as i think i fall into the largest gamer demographic. Its a shame in a way but at least i found EVE a few years ago and still have a hobbie i can unwind with, i have friends who didnt and still got turned off mainstream games and left without a way to chill and unwind when they get home ( and before you start where i live going outside to do something isnt really an option, unless you like crack and being stabbed ) Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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Frank Millar
39
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:06:00 -
[46] - Quote
I have played games since the Pong machine, Atari, C64, Amiga 500 & 1200, various PC's, Dreamcast, two incarnations of Xboxes...
I was a (very bad) FPS'er since the original Doom, a bit of Quake but the cream of the crop was Unreal Tournament in '98. I did a bit of Medal of Honour and Call of Duty, but burned out on the genre after the first Modern Warfare. I enjoyed it, but there was just nowhere to go after that.
The only racing game franchise I just couldn't get enough of was Metropolis Street Racer on Dreamcast and its successor on Xbox, Project Gotham Racing (number 2 in particular); the rest got boring after a while.
Nowadays, I go for games with replay value (Mass Effect 2 was such a game), or games where it's obvious a lot of work has gone into them (Skyrim being a prime example) and not will be finished in 20-odd hours.
As for EvE Online: I was eye-balling this game for years before I even signed up. I had everything I could possibly want from a game (SPACESHIPS!!11) but me being a socially awkward person put me off. Until I got a new workmate who confessed to playing EvE Online. I saw my chance and signed up. And did little of consequence, but yeah... 
I reverted to Skill training Online when I wanted to play Mass Effect 3. I respect other people's opinions on that game, but for me, it was the biggest blasphemy and disappointment in gaming history. I literally lost the will to game for several months.
I finally picked up Skyrim and got back into it.
Now, I'm looking for some extra spare time to log on to EvE and do something remotely "usefull" again. It never occurred to me to unsub; I guess it's true that there's no leaving EvE. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
458
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Excellent article, described me perfectly which i suppose isnt hard as i think i fall into the largest gamer demographic. Its a shame in a way but at least i found EVE a few years ago and still have a hobbie i can unwind with, i have friends who didnt and still got turned off mainstream games and left without a way to chill and unwind when they get home ( and before you start where i live going outside to do something isnt really an option, unless you like crack and being stabbed )
It is a good article. Sometimes peopel don't understand it's them who changed, not the thing they are observing.
When i was a kid, the original Star Wars movies were AWESOME. They still are now that I'm 38, just not in the same way. The movies didn't change, I did.
BTW Crack is delicious.
CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |

AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
177
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:21:00 -
[48] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:I find EVE is an incredibly unique jewel amongst games. First of all, for me personally, I'm a sci-fi fan from way back. When I was a kid, I used to transpose the Dungeons & Dragons rules onto a spaceship game I designed, and had a stack of cool starship designs myself that I'd draw on graphics paper and written up stats and abilities for them. I've never had friends who were in to the same stuff as me - actually, as an autistic kid, I never really had many friends at all, but it didn't matter cuz I had my game.
I haven't been capable of changing much in the way of socialisation, that is, until the internet came along. Because of social networking online, I've been able to develop a social life that I'm just not capable of in "the flesh". Sure I've got a very small circle of very good friends, and I've even been able to hold down relationships with girls occasionally, but I'm not really interested in that anymore. The greatest achievement of my life, the ability to interact with other people on a social level without having to make eye contact and still actually have legitimate social discourse, was made possible because of the internet.
And now the game I created for myself as a kid, using dice and self-written rulebooks and paper, is here on the internet, where I'm kinda making more friends. Now don't get me wrong, I do have a real world life - it's taken a while to establish myself a bit of a niche (which was made difficult by my developmental shortcomings and the fact that I've moved more times than I can count therefore never been able to build myself up in one geophysical location). I'm currently studying journalism via online correspondence (which is yet another way the internet has saved my ****), and I intend to work in investigative journalism when I'm through. I'll be looking for my first internship this coming year, which with my grades thus far won't be too hard.
But this game is my downtime. This game is my real world when the real real world isn't important. This game is an alternate reality, and in a sense, for me personally, it's kinda become my primary reality, and everything I do in the other reality, studying and working, is done out of necessity only.
But I live in EVE. Not because I have no life or friends, though, but because it's where I choose to be. CCP have created something that I've always wanted. I really couldn't ask for anything more. And I really don't. My life is satisfied, and I will die a happy man even if nothing else ever comes my way.
Here, the internet combines with my love of the science fiction fantasy that I've always been living already, in between doing what's necessary with my life. I do play other games, though - I love Halo and Mass Effect (though more for the stories than the gameplay), Forza Motorsport (the only car collection I'll ever need - I'm easily satisfied), and Fallout are my primaries. I love air combat simulators, too - I wanted to be a fighter pilot growing up. I got the grades to go to ADFA, but my developmental issues kept me from getting in.
Now thats an awesome story, thanks for sharing it with us buddy and i kind of feel the same way sometimes. EVE can definately be allot more exciting than real life and i dont think id be too unhappy if i was stuck in it for life. Fiscal Fisting Inc.-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
435
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:21:00 -
[49] - Quote
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.
Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted -ú35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
Same here , played a crapload mmorpg's and single player games.Started eve in 2004 and around 2007 i stopped playing anything else.Tried some other mmorpgs but can't be arsed to log in to those after a month and don't even get me started about single player games.
Now i'm stuck to a game that on a yearly base 50% of the time i don't even like/know why i log in yet i can't enjoy anything else even remotely. There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:24:00 -
[50] - Quote
I played Need for Speed world for like 3 hrs yesterday. Gave them a bit of money, got some "uber I-Win" cars and I still sucked.
But I had fun.
Smashing in to stuff, coming in last every race, break burning my car, doing donuts. Just being fail. I need to do that more in EVE I think. I've noticed over the years, it isn't even so much EVE is the only game, I stopped letting myself suck at EVE. I don't play EVE the same way I used to. |

Vitamin B12
37
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:57:00 -
[51] - Quote
I have the same feelings. All other games then EVE look so time wasting because your progeression is not saved permanent or you know that the game not gonna exist anymore in 8 years.
But on the other hand EVE is the thing I love and hate the most. Its boring as hell but its still the best option out there if you want to stay a "gamer". Capital Ships Related BPC's & BPO's // fair price-á// fast delivery https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=973041 |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1896
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:04:00 -
[52] - Quote
Game? What game? There's a game? I thought this was it. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3171

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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:25:00 -
[53] - Quote
It seems I have had the opposite reaction to many people when it comes to EVE.
As a kid, and in to my teenage years, I played across multiple genres both on consoles and on my Amiga 500+. As I entered my late teens though I stopped playing almost overnight, a state that persisted for almost 10 years until my mid twenties when I had a go on a friends PS 2. Whilst it was fun I still had no urge to "game" and went off to do other things. That lasted a few short years until I hit my late 20's and discovered an intriguing sci-fi game with funky looking spaceships and a pretty cool soundtrack, and thus began my EVE addiction.
Since then I have gone on to try dozens upon dozens of other games across multiple platforms and covering almost every genre available. I went from having no interest in games beyond being socially acceptable whilst visiting friends houses, to having a library of games that seems to increase on a weekly basis. My current kick is testing out all the different crazy Korean, Japanese and Russian MMO's I can lay my hands on, something I have been having a great deal of fun with 
None of those games will ever replace EVE though, no matter how hard they try or how shiny they look. For me, EVE is the catalyst that opened my eyes to a whole new world of art, music and creativity that I had spent most of my adult life blind to and for that reason alone, EVE will always be my number one, and my first port of call when the weekend rolls around.  ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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kopite
Dudliers
0
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:27:00 -
[54] - Quote
It turns out my ageing rig cannot run Planetside 2 at any more than 10fps and yet, despite having waited half a decade for it to become reality, I am not bothered.
Why? because it means it won't be eating into my Eve time.
From the most careing of 'Bears to the most froth at the mouth losec ganktard, whatever play style you have, once EvE gets you, it gets you good. I have lost count of the number of other games that have come along and held my attention for a time but I always end up back in new Eden and I wouldn't have it any other way. |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering
113
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:45:00 -
[55] - Quote
Started in 2003, and no other game has felt the same since. No other game has been able to consistently keep my attention since I started playing EVE. There have been many games along the way, but I always find my way back here. EVE has a one of a kind community largely due to the single world we live in. Imagine how different other games would have been if they were not divided by mini communities per server?
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Yatama Kautsuo
Tencus
44
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:50:00 -
[56] - Quote
for me it's similar. darkfall online spoiled me for other games except for one:
eve online |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
88
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Posted - 2012.11.27 18:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Same here, i was a gamer who spent a lot money on other games and i play a lot other games before EvE but when i discovery EvE i totaly sink to this virtual space universe, i enyoi a lot first few years in EvE, EvE board show me that i spent more than 500+ days in game on main ;/ this is SICK!!! however i dont feel trauma for this reason and i dont waste any single second while i was here, im still love EvE even im a bit exousted form this game, after few years of being here, but this is normar for very old and (hardcore gamers)...
Thank you EvE to save my money (other games and stuf no more needs) and thank you to give me amazing expirence during play lenght. |

Squealing Piglet
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.11.27 20:51:00 -
[58] - Quote
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.
Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted -ú35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
I agree, Eve makes everything else lame. |

MIrple
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
165
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:00:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Almost seven years ago I played all sorts of games. My MMO of choice was City of Heroes. I had a PS2 with a ton of games on it. I had a bunch of games on my PC too. I'd spend an hour or two online a night, playing CoH, then maybe throw in Madden 2006, or one of the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms games, or Kingdom Hearts II, or Dragon Quest VIII, or, just, whatever.
Then I started playing EVE. I spent my first month playing 8+ hours a day. I would wake up in the middle of the night to set a skill (no queue back then). I joined a corp, had it die, joined another one. Looked at the Crusader and loved how it looked, so I quickly trained up to fly an Interceptor even though I couldn't use MWDs or T2 Small Lasers or half of the other things I needed to make it fly WELL.
Six months in, I applied for ISD Aurora because six months was the minimum time allowed before I could. I got in. I wrote a story for EON, got promoted because of it. Dedicated more and more time for it.
I lost ships in PVP and killed a few. Got somewhat better, but not great. Never great, just good enough.
At first, I was unemployed so I could spend time playing other games besides EVE. But then I became an adult and got real jobs and suddenly didn't have time to play the newest Zelda game. Hey, Bioshock looks cool, but man... No time! Got dudes to kill in EVE. Screw Bayonetta, someone's trying to blow up our POS.
And now I've got a job working on EVE.
So yeah, I know the sentiment.
Man it sounds like you eat sleep and dream eve. I really hope they don't make you wear even unclothes and socks as part of the dress code.
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Mr Pragmatic
96
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:59:00 -
[60] - Quote
Main reason I play eve is because I don't have to collect apples for a pie for lazy NPCs.
Also Eve is the only game I actually played for more than a year. Maybe this world is another planet's hell. -Aldous Huxley ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) - "What are your modules like?"
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Devon Krah'tor
Magis.Erudire.Ratus.Knoen
32
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Posted - 2012.11.27 22:49:00 -
[61] - Quote
I feel that I am in good company here. Sure I'll try a new game from time to time, but I find mostly they are re-hashed crap with the occasional gem 'Parappa the Rappa lol' etc...
Eve is the closest thing to a truly sandbox game, sadly she is aging, along with the rest of us. Greater.Insight.Skill.Knowledge |

God's Apples
The Tuskers
26
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:02:00 -
[62] - Quote
The only other games I can enjoy are DotA 2 and LoL probably because of the social aspect. I still sometimes play morrowind because after 6 years I still haven't done everything and oblivion and skyrim are boring with less than 100 hours on them there's nothing to do.
I'm not sure if it's just that video games released now are blander than used to be or I was just 9 at the time, but beating Mass Effect 1, KOTOR, and Morrowind just felt awesome. Even with the rush you get from PvP gone now there's no game that can come close to EvE in terms of complexity, immersion, and gameplay. |

Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:30:00 -
[63] - Quote
I am unwilling to try other MMOs mostly because people will talk about how good its gonna be or whatever, but then they will talk "PVP zones" or what server i should be on. I guess Eve has completely ruined "normal" MMOs for me. |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:34:00 -
[64] - Quote
Joelleaveek wrote:I am unwilling to try other MMOs mostly because people will talk about how good its gonna be or whatever, but then they will talk "PVP zones" or what server i should be on. I guess Eve has completely ruined "normal" MMOs for me. Never played another MMO, EvE was my first, but if I understand correctly, you're saying most MMO's have "zones" or designated servers where you can PvP and no where else? That's kind of stupid. I'll be sticking to EvE forever then. |

Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
68
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
Theres plenty of good games these days, skyrim ,dishonored, company of heroes, arma 2 etc. Good year for games I think and next year might be good with arma 3, planetary annihilation and star citizens. Those are just my tastes of course.
EvE Online is just the best MMO for me out there atm, but it doesn't always please me, so then I have the others [non-mmos] to look forward to. EvE always gives me the urge to come back however. Nothing like it.
Marlona Sky wrote:It is just how we remember things. I promise you most of the games you played were crap. Panzer Dragoon Saga will always be boss though. |

Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:56:00 -
[66] - Quote
Nyancat Audeles wrote:Joelleaveek wrote:I am unwilling to try other MMOs mostly because people will talk about how good its gonna be or whatever, but then they will talk "PVP zones" or what server i should be on. I guess Eve has completely ruined "normal" MMOs for me. Never played another MMO, EvE was my first, but if I understand correctly, you're saying most MMO's have "zones" or designated servers where you can PvP and no where else? That's kind of stupid. I'll be sticking to EvE forever then.
It's also the only MMO I've ever played :) These are just the things i hear. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1789
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Posted - 2012.11.28 03:47:00 -
[67] - Quote
Even the Eve forums are better than most new releases.
/supported |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2128
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Posted - 2012.11.28 04:27:00 -
[68] - Quote
I played World of Warcraft for a long, long time. I was never involved enough to get in with the bleeding edge raiding guilds, but I carved a niche for myself as a pick-up-raid healer and tank. After Burning Crusade I stalled a little, trying out different classes, exploring the quest lines in different areas (WoW is a great PvE MMO), and doing my own thing. But after a month my friends were raiding and I wasn't. So I took time off work, focussed on leveling one character, doing all the quest lines required to get into whichever were the starting raids (Gruul? Serpent shrine Cavern?), and getting the entry level gear I needed. Then I got put on the wait list and burned out.
While sitting outside the raid instance one night I was looking over the new iMacs thinking about whether it was time to upgrade yet or not. For some reason EVE Online caught my eye: I had heard about this space MMO before, had no idea what it was actually about, but knew that it was only for Windows and never looked into it further. But here it was, on the Apple Store: download now for a free trial!
GÇ£What the heckGÇ¥ I thought, GÇ£I won't be raiding tonight unless someone drops dead, may as well give it a go.GÇ¥
The first thing that got me about EVE was the lack of direction, and the lack of constraint. I managed to get lost after jumping through a star gate or three looking for tutorial agents, asked for help in NPC corp chat, and was directed to a system I hadn't been to before. The people I had taken up with invited me along to L4 missions. The game didn't stop me entering their dungeon just because I wasn't high enough level, or there were too many people in the fleet.
So there I was in L4 missions flying a logistics Osprey (cap stable even with very low skills), healing my new friend who was flying a battleship.There was no GM intruding to tell us that this strategy was breaking the rules. There was no restriction on where I could go or what I could do. I had the freedom to write my own story!
I still play WoW sometimes. I bought the WotLK expansion and leveled one character to 80. By the time the next month's subscription was due I had no desire to keep playing. I was not going to be doing anything new, just pressing play on the same story everyone else was watching. This was MMO on rails, EVE had spoilt me.
Last night I took my Dranei paladin into the Scarlet Monastery, the first time I have been to that instance since Burning Crusade launched (at the time, my friend needed lots of silk to level tailoring so we got it by being daft in SM with port warriors wearing shield spikes), and I couldn't believe the attitude of the other four players: I was being told how to play my character not only by the game itself as a paladin, you only have these spells, and you can't use daggers or staves) but by the other players (hey doofus, why do you have a shield spike? Pull this group, skip that group, don't you know anything? Oh, and I am not healing you if you are stupid enough to get caught by blades of light).
EVE has spoiled me.
Other games are still great: I am slowly playing through Zelda on the Wii, for example. At least in Zelda while I am playing through a pre-scripted story, I don't have other players telling me to play the game their way :)
But then, some things never change. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

galenwade
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
34
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Posted - 2012.11.28 04:32:00 -
[69] - Quote
Chribba wrote:I agreed with the above posters. Other games simply have no attraction.
Yea how many games can you say there are that make you want to run up to their HQ building naked ,waving wads of cash .
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Arya Greywolf
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:00:00 -
[70] - Quote
I used to be a solo-pvper like you, but then I took a hot-drop to the face. |

Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
457
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:03:00 -
[71] - Quote
I used to play other games simply due to the fact that they alleviated boredom, then I found EVE. It not only alleviates boredom, but the forums do to, and I like it. It's win-win.  zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5667
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:15:00 -
[72] - Quote
galenwade wrote:Chribba wrote:I agreed with the above posters. Other games simply have no attraction. Yea how many games can you say there are that make you want to run up to their HQ building naked ,waving wads of cash . Only one... only one! 
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Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
62
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Posted - 2012.11.28 06:02:00 -
[73] - Quote
Funny, I've notice after EVE came out that the shelf size in the game stores and electronics shop started getting smaller. Now its like not even there except a small shelf in the back of large stores and mostly WoW stuff. Oh, you're talking about console games, ok nevermind 
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Mrbluto
Dark Harlequins F.E.R.A.L
26
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Posted - 2012.11.28 07:09:00 -
[74] - Quote
I am an older gamer, I started off playing Battlefiled 1942 as my first online multiplayer, Moved on through the BF series with the same bunch of guy. MMO's never really interested me and paying a monthy sub for a game was just for idoits.
Then a friend from my clan joined Eve. Then 2 more did, with in 1 month we all had. It took over our clan forums so much so that our BF clan folded. We were all playing Eve 8 hours a day and more at weekends. I have been playing for 6 and a half years and still love the game. The EX wife hated it but I meet my girlfriend who also plays Eve so I am playing more than ever.
I have 'given up' many times but am back within a few hours. I think for me it's a very soical game I can spend housr on TS just chatting and haveing a laugh with the corp/alliance guys.
You are right there is just something about Eve! |

Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.11.28 07:18:00 -
[75] - Quote
This is like the 4th time I have returned to eve... Though I am still excited about the new FFXIV ARR update since I am a FF RPG fan myself...
Eve lets you do things that other games will not even let you think about doing and I think it is that whole darkness that surrounds every aspect of EvE that will keep making me return... I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |

OT Smithers
BLOMI
374
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Posted - 2012.11.28 07:35:00 -
[76] - Quote
For me it's not just games... 
Yesterday, while masturbating to childrens autopsy pictures, I found myself distracted by a new idea for a fitting for a Hawk. I was forced to fire up EFT as soon as I finished.
Has anyone else had this problem?!
Thanks in advance! |

Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
208
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Posted - 2012.11.28 08:21:00 -
[77] - Quote
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:I used to call myself a gamer, id buy most new releases as they came out and spent a large amount of time playing games all across the spectrum from Railroads to Halo. I was proud to call myself a gamer, kept up to date with the gamin industry for years and got genuinely excited about games coming out until recently.
Over the last year the joy has gone. I just cant enjoy anything any more, i stopped buying new releases a few months back because i found id play them for one session then just call it a day and end up with a wasted -ú35. The only games to have even slightly entertained me recently are Dishonoured, Hotline Miami and Bordelands 2. I fail to even get properly enthusiastic about Mechwarrior and Planetside.
The only game i can enjoy playing now is EVE, im not sure if it the social side or the actuall game but i think EVE has done something to me. Am i just getting old? am i the only one? are games these days just ****?
Same here. Same reasons i got tons of games on steam realy more than 400 games on a ccount dont want to share my dvd collections with games thats just to many games.
Many of my free time was playing sfci games or some co-op games with friends. Afthere some years doing that this i got borred try every mmorpg i can find play 3 days the 4 days is like meh........
So i try eve back in 2006 played the tut and join a corp with local friends here. Then i stopt. because i was had no clue what to do in eve online. Going to youtube searching video reading about eve see reviews ask people across internet what eve is and how you play it. Because i like starfleet command orion pirat vessel back in tha days. So i was hoping for the same kick.
So i installed eve mon use my main to how to skill. People say well to my the first thing you need to know about eve is what do you want to do. So i make a skill table i want a caldari and i want the rokh so this is how my journey of eve starts my main have been stop it was a 1 year learning the basic with my main. Afther that i make this char and now its my new main.
So now the only game i played are eve online and some others games if real life friends want to Lan party with me. Then i play other games.
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Kara Vix
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
100
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Posted - 2012.11.28 09:43:00 -
[78] - Quote
I play other games, I love everquest still even after 13 years and log on Aion to pvp now and then, but Eve does have that draw. Its like going home for Christmas, it just feels comfy and welcoming and then some drunk uncle tries to gank someone and the pvp begins. Eve is life, good and bad, risk and reward, friends and betrayal, no other game has that. |

Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
582
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Posted - 2012.11.28 11:54:00 -
[79] - Quote
Turns out, the fact that I can't ignore someone because they are in a cheap ship and have low skill points is exactly the game I always wanted to play
That person is me at one (often long) period of time too
I'm a casual player of games and hate being boned for it
--- I used to be indecisive but now I am not quite sure. |

BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
3779
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Posted - 2012.11.28 11:55:00 -
[80] - Quote
Lol, I'm not interested in most other games (except portal and catan)
The fact that I even uninstalled BF1942 is amazing to me. I'm just not interested in it anymore.
I love that I am almost 2 yrs old in EvE. All of us who play have invested time and effort into building something, and we can either build an empire for ourselves, or an empire with others. I love the fact that when you are blown up you don't respawn with all the same 'equipment' - well.. ok.. sometimes I wish I had.. lol
I love that I choose the parameters of the game for myself, all the while knowing that I can be impacted by ANY other player in the game which is a huge risk and a fun one.
I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE -á ***DISCLAIMER*** Regarding this avatar - any resemblance or similarity to other avatars-áeither living or dead is purely coincidental.
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Talemecus Valta
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:25:00 -
[81] - Quote
I've played games ever since, the BBC Micro came out with games like Beachhead and Galaga.
I've currently got an Apple iMac, PS3 and a Xbox 360 with numerous games, which are collecting dust on the shelf.
The only games I play are the Assassins Creed franchise (Xbox), the Battlefield franchise (PS3), and EVE (Apple iMac), and Dust 514.
Before EVE, I played Bigpoint's, Battlestar Galactica, which is a really small and limited version of EVE.
Then I found EVE (I remember looking at the box for EVE in the Virgin Megastore), and closed the Bigpoint account and never looked back.
Thank you CCP, you have created a game, that I can fully escape into.
Only 40 rounds per gun... I hate reloading in the middle!
I'll make it through each day, Singing DEATH OR GLORY!!!! |

Luke Visteen
Apostasy Prime
114
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:25:00 -
[82] - Quote
I play D3 on Hardcore (only 1 life) and EVE. Can't play no-risk-involved games anymore  I don't always do. But when I do - I do. |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
48
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:20:00 -
[83] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Almost seven years ago I played all sorts of games. My MMO of choice was City of Heroes..
Please for the love of Pete tell me that you didn't work on that game and if ya did please tell me ya didn't help design I13. I read that and a friggen chill went up my spine like the ghost of RV just walked over my grave.
They just shut their servers down.... |

Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:06:00 -
[84] - Quote
I spent the last two years playing World of Tanks, ironically many of my old WoT clanmates were ex-eve veterans. I finally gave Eve a 2nd look about 2 months ago, and haven't logged into any other game since.
I always wanted a great open-ended space game ever since I spent hours playing Elite as a kid in the 1980s.
I have a garage full of tanks and a pile of gold on my account, but I doubt if I'll ever log into WoT again. Don't Panic.
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Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
244
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:31:00 -
[85] - Quote
To the OP: I think you are just bored in general. To keep things fresh, I change things up regularly.
I multibox: SWTOR on my main computer, two EvE accounts on a second, and one EvE account on a third older machine. I'll set up my mining fleet to run semi-AFK, while I run around in SWTOR. It keeps me busy. I'm out of my chair with relatively high frequency. It's way more fun than doing either alone, or God forbid, playing on a single account in EvE.
Also, I play a large variety of games to keep things interesting: Perpetuum, Black Prophecy (not in a long time though), DIablo III, LOTRO, Team Fortress II, and the list goes on.
Also, doing it this way is immunity from server outages/downtime, so there is always something available whenever I want to log on. And due to my job, I am up at way strange hours of the day/night...
Plus, there is nothing wrong with avoiding gaming all together for a while. When I am getting bored with games, I'll work on hands-on projects, and do stuff around the house I have been meaning to do. Or, I'll ride my bike or meet up with buds...
Change things up :: keep it fresh. |

Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
302
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Posted - 2012.11.28 20:40:00 -
[86] - Quote
As much as I like Eve, I don't think Eve is the cause.
Consoles are the cause. More specifically, games dumbed-down, designed for consoles, that also happen to run on a PC are the cause. So many games are pale shadows of the depth we used to get in PC games of the past.
Compare the new X-Com, which is not a bad game, with the original. It seems that if the only way you can interact with a world is through the neck of a bottle with a chopstick, you get much dumber world to interact with. I remember playing games where the AI could mop the floor with you (see original X-Com) if you were careless. These days most AIs just cheat.
Remember Homeworld? Or even Dune 2 (loved that game)? MOO2? Star Control 2? System Shock? Baldur's Gate 2? Those games would keep you playing with deep gameplay for 60 to 100 hours. Skyrim was the last game to do that for me, but it wasn't nearly as much fun as the discovery in Daggerfall. Or the hours I poured into X2. As good as Skyrim is, the console system made it significantly disappointing. I used to love the spell making system. But if you must equip spells using only an A and a B button, why even bother to make a complicated UI for something that can barely be used. (The rationale Bethesda gave was that it unbalanced the game... but that was a big part of the fun.)
One of the things I loath about console gaming is that everything is oversimplified and iconized. It's as if the games are made to be played by the permanently stoned. Yet a few games take some of the good things and successfully pull them into the PC realm. Borderlands and Borderlands 2 are two examples. Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |

Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
161
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Posted - 2012.11.28 21:14:00 -
[87] - Quote
I am not an avid gamer, although I started on the original Atari 400, but I got into text MU*s in the very earliest proto stages. I loved, and still miss, the absolute freedom: Not only was content was player generated, the landscape was. The items were. The monsters were. The code was player written. On one MUSH I was on, the combat system was player written, and optional: You could do 100% RP'd combat. Your character looked like whatever you could type in, and that included code. There was no respawning; if your character died, you were taken back to the character creator. I spent years in that space, happily, until the graphical MMOs drained the players away. It turns out that a lot of people want their scenes pre-rendered for their convenience. I ignored MMOs and went back to tabletop games.
Fast forward to about 13 months ago. A few friends were talking EVE, EVE, EVE all the time. So finally, I broke down and created this character. EVE still falls far short of the freedom I enjoyed on the MU*s, but it's as close as any graphical game has come, and for better or for worse, graphical games are where people are, and people are the whole point. One thing I especially love about EVE is that there is so much to learn, and with some reasonable exceptions you can learn whatever you want in whatever order, and enough of what there is to learn is player skill that you do the learning from other people, not from NPCs.
Much more recently, I indulged some friends and family and finally downloaded WoW. I created a warlock because I'd heard they were as close to WoW-on-hard-mode as there was, only to find that the latest expansion had completely retooled them so they weren't. All the railroad tracks that I dreaded about MMOs were there, but WoW has this oddly schizophrenic thing going on where the combat is insultingly easy until you're in an instance and suddenly it's "what do you mean, you haven't discovered the optimal tactics for your character?" Well, no, I haven't. Everything else dies too damn quickly, and the combat has nowhere near the tactical complexity of EVE's. Your fitting decisions boil down to, "is this obviously better than what I have?". The lack of customization is terrible, and the animations are a frequent source of unintentional comedy. I still pop on for my friends and family, but the day they leave, I leave too. I can't say that about EVE. |

Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
10
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Posted - 2012.11.28 21:16:00 -
[88] - Quote
I used to be the same as OP. I would play nearly every new release, stay up to date on the gaming world. But then, just a short 4 months ago, I finally subbed to eve. All other games have gone out the airlock. I still dabble in BF3 every now and then to keep my analog stick skills intact, but other than that its been EVE EVEry day. I actually just found my old copy of Star Wars Empire at War (star wars rts in space and on land) and have been getting back into that quite a bit. I am also VERY excited to get my new gaming rig up and running so I can play PS2 in all its gigantic glory. |
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