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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2012.11.28 11:55:00 -
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Hello Pilots! 
Next week, with the launch of EVE Online: Retribution, comes an interesting set of changes to the Drone Regions. These include new modules, new drone "Officer" NPCs and balances to rogue drone salvage.
CCP FoxFour is here to explain them all in his latest Dev Blog, which you can read here!
Enjoy! 
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati -á || -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3032
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:00:00 -
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This is a nice start. |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
126

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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:01:00 -
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There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots. CCP Dolan | Community Representative
Twitter: @CCPDolan
Gooby pls |
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
528
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:03:00 -
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Good idea but really rubbish names for the officer mods... can't we just give them proper names and say they were named after the first person to encounter them or something? :) |

ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
273
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:04:00 -
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happy drones make me happy - Nulla Curas |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1017

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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:05:00 -
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Hope you guys enjoy! :D Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Miccet
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
1
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:05:00 -
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Good stuff! I guess this won't change the nearly useless drone DED complex sites more than maybe a bit sec status and some % more salvage? Would be nice with drone faction modules as well to buff these sites. As or right now they simply aren't worth the time. |

Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
73
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:05:00 -
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First page??
"Rouge drones", yeees... |

MegabitOne
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:07:00 -
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Nice changes
1st page \0/ |

Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
435
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:07:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots.
listen to the man !
any chance for future improvements to faction spawns ? |

Sister Lumi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:10:00 -
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Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
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l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
66
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:10:00 -
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What about the drops in Drone complex sites? AFAIK they are not worth while compare to faction DED sites. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |

DJ Xaphod
Eve Radio Corporation
19
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:10:00 -
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I didn't know drones wore rouge.
Awesome devlog.. I can't help empathising with these drones; they seem to have such similar outlooks on life to myself. -áGëí>Gëí Radio, Bringing Music to the Masses. http://eve-radio.com I play Rock & Metal Thursday Nights 2200 GameTime Sunday Evenings 1800 GameTime |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
914
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:11:00 -
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I must admit, even for my pessimistic self.
YAY!!!
Nicely done. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
357
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:12:00 -
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Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
Because those rats are still enemies of the empire factions. |

Vanths
4U Services Inc. Talocan United
5
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:16:00 -
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ooh la la the french give a sec status when we cause them mortal harm?
"Oh, also, Rouge Drones now give a sec status gain when you kill them." |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3032
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:16:00 -
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Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
You're not denied sec status gains from sleeper drones because they're in 0.0. You're denied them because CONCORD has no reason to give you sec status from killing them, since they stay in their wormholes and aren't a threat to the empires. Pirates and rogue drones on the other hand are, so bounties and sec status gains are justified on kills. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
914
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:18:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
You're not denied sec status gains from sleeper drones because they're in 0.0. You're denied them because CONCORD has no reason to give you sec status from killing them, since they stay in their wormholes and aren't a threat to the empires. Pirates and rogue drones on the other hand are, so bounties and sec status gains are justified on kills. See we just need sleeper incursions to keep everyone on their toes  Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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LadyZelda
Stillwater Corporation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:20:00 -
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Great things to look forward too, but one thing comes to mind:
What is the drone control unit adding? I assume easier fitting, but other than that? +2 drones per module fitted? Salvation +ònryo - Capital builder of the Stillwater corporation |

St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
996
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:21:00 -
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CCP FoxFour I have a question!
Any plan on introducing lower-end faction versions of these modules to the Rogue Drone sites in highsec like Rogue Drone Asteroid Infestation DED 3/10, or the unnamed combat sites such as Desolate Site and Chemical Yard? |

Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:23:00 -
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Now you only need NPC stations/constellations in deep drone 0.0. |

Grombutz
Treasures Collectors Solar Citizens
13
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:24:00 -
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a good start.
Now just add comparable low-end faction-loot to faction drone NPC's and a couple of new sites for drones and we are even. |

Valkyrie D'ark
Armed Resistance Movement
10
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:24:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Hope you guys enjoy! :D
We will. Nice work. Thanks guys. |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1606
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:27:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote: Oh, also, Rouge Drones now give a sec status gain when you kill them. Just a little something we also added. :D Rouge drones you say?
 TK is recruiting |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5670
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:28:00 -
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Drone goo!
Mmmm named drone control units! I like!
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Gods Messenger
BLOOM. Verge of Collapse
22
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:29:00 -
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Rats in Belts and Salvaging in 0.0 is absolete content, why work on it? |

Cid Tazer
The Green Cross Against ALL Anomalies
7
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:34:00 -
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Are Forbidden and forsaken versions of drone anomolies going to be added as well in Retribution? |

Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
556
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:40:00 -
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Rouge Drones ?  FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1 |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1459
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:40:00 -
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Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
Most CONCORD officers have nullsec alts in large alliances that need to make money. They're just looking out for their own.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Shimrod Ombreflamme
LOOK TO WINDWARD
0
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:58:00 -
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Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
No Concord, so no bounties ? Well.. |

Daedalus II
The Oasis Group TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
133
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:11:00 -
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LadyZelda wrote: What is the drone control unit adding? I assume easier fitting, but other than that? +2 drones per module fitted?
I want to know this as well, easier fitting is all good I guess, but it doesn't feel like the drone control units are what usually breaks a carrier fit. What I mean is that unless it does something insane like adding +2 drones per module I don't see why anyone would like to fit it given the (I assume) very high price it'll get? |

Jin So
Black Core Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:13:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Hope you guys enjoy! :D
This good, but what about security status, will pilots gets security updates when killing these drones after 12/4 ? |

Bagehi
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
127
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:19:00 -
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A really big step in the right direction. The drone regions were really horrible, now they're just below average for null (moon goo, jump distances, etc). Plus, shiny bits for carriers! |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1019

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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:20:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote: Oh, also, Rouge Drones now give a sec status gain when you kill them. Just a little something we also added. :D Rouge drones you say? 
What you thought we would upgrade existing NPC? NAH! We are creating a whole new type of NPC that work like no other NPC in the game. >.< Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
540
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:22:00 -
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+1 to St Mio .. would definitely make those sites runnable as compared to now =)
Also, the descriptions of the rogue drone officers would fit quite a few of the sociopa... *cough* capsuleers in Eve This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |

Feawin
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:28:00 -
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This is great news! 
Now, let's fix the other dead regions! Yes, im talking about Cloud/Outer Ring. |

iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
97
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:32:00 -
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I don't live in the drone regions, and never will, but these changes are very welcome. Giving people in nullsec something else to fight over is always good for content creation. Correcting botched nerfs rather than stubbornly pretending you did the right thing sets a good precedent. Track your wealth with EVE Stats: https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |

Silath Slyver Silverpine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:42:00 -
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MFW I realize this is about drone regions, and not improvements to player controlled drones. 
Some day. Some day. |

Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
25
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:46:00 -
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Daedalus II wrote:LadyZelda wrote: What is the drone control unit adding? I assume easier fitting, but other than that? +2 drones per module fitted?
I want to know this as well, easier fitting is all good I guess, but it doesn't feel like the drone control units are what usually breaks a carrier fit. What I mean is that unless it does something insane like adding +2 drones per module I don't see why anyone would like to fit it given the (I assume) very high price it'll get?
Easier fitting is the only change, as in less CPU. No change to powergrid or other stats. I've commented elsewhere that fitting is a non-issue, but that went unanswered. |

Sister Lumi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:48:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
Most CONCORD officers have nullsec alts in large alliances that need to make money. They're just looking out for their own.
This answer was accepted  |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
274
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:53:00 -
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St Mio wrote:CCP FoxFour I have a question!
Any plan on introducing lower-end faction versions of these modules to the Rogue Drone sites in highsec like Rogue Drone Asteroid Infestation DED 3/10, or the unnamed combat sites such as Desolate Site and Chemical Yard? I'd does seem odd that the meta 11-14 were released first, which will more than likely cost billions of isk. Some federation navy variants wold have been very welcome. Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
274
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:55:00 -
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Irregessa wrote:Daedalus II wrote:LadyZelda wrote: What is the drone control unit adding? I assume easier fitting, but other than that? +2 drones per module fitted?
I want to know this as well, easier fitting is all good I guess, but it doesn't feel like the drone control units are what usually breaks a carrier fit. What I mean is that unless it does something insane like adding +2 drones per module I don't see why anyone would like to fit it given the (I assume) very high price it'll get? Easier fitting is the only change, as in less CPU. No change to powergrid or other stats. I've commented elsewhere that fitting is a non-issue, but that went unanswered. I was hoping that maybe we might see a faction carrier to totally pimp out with these  Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:07:00 -
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These officer modules should bode well for the botting industry! +++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark GÇ£SeleeneGÇ¥ Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith. |

iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
97
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:12:00 -
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Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:These officer modules should bode well for the botting industry!
Not the DCUs at least, they only have a tiny CPU bonus, as if that was a problem anyway. Track your wealth with EVE Stats: https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |

Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
25
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:20:00 -
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Officer DCUs |

iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
98
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:36:00 -
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Yeah, dead on arrival :(
All carriers and supers can already fit a full rack of 5 DCUs with a full tank and have CPU to spare, so there is literally no point in this CPU bonus. I suggest increasing the number of drones deployable to 2, THAT would be something worth spending a few billion on (and will give the Drone Region owners something worth its weight in technetium, which they completely lack). Track your wealth with EVE Stats: https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |

Lili Lu
597
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:40:00 -
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Much praise for effort !! Of course the true value of these new shineys will await stats on the modules.
I just wish you had done this 3 or 4 years ago when I lived there in the drone regions. 
Anyway, this is still a welcome buff to a region that had been neglected for too long.  |

Alexander Yukari
TerraNovae Workers Trade Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:56:00 -
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St Mio wrote:CCP FoxFour I have a question!
Any plan on introducing lower-end faction versions of these modules to the Rogue Drone sites in highsec like Rogue Drone Asteroid Infestation DED 3/10, or the unnamed combat sites such as Desolate Site and Chemical Yard?
This, the meta 4 and low end faction mods from DED drone sites are just slap in the face.
We could use at least some faction meta level mods from them. Currently they are just not worth time and ammo.. |

SquidWhiskers Shikkoken
Flashpoint Industries Ethereal Dawn
1
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:02:00 -
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Totally agree with what has been said so far. Officer spawns are a start but we are still a long way from being in line with the other regions without the lower end faction loot as well. It might be an idea to make faction rogue drones drop random meta 6+ items from other factions as the whole point of rogue drones is they salvage ships and use them to create more of themselves isn't it? |

Cartosis Solette
Industrial Legion of EVE STR8NGE BREW
0
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:15:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Hope you guys enjoy! :D
I'd really love to see something in all these empty non-officer and non-sentient drone wrecks... even if it is just metal scraps 
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Krell Kroenen
Miners In Possession Brothers of Apocrypha.
83
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:20:00 -
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Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
While Concord does not patrol nullsec directly they clearly have influence by the bounties they pay out on rats and the rent they collect from Sov bills plus someone is running the jump gate network. Null Sec isn't unexplored wild space like Worm hole space, it just neglected space. And Concord is just the slum lord neglecting it. Or that is how I always viewed them. |

W4r Destined
The Inf1dels The Retirement Club
1
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:42:00 -
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I'm still waiting on improvements on the Drone complexes, namely 'Radiance' and 'Independence', both of which seem to never escalate, and have terrible drops. I do them only in the hopes that another, more rewarding complex might come up. As for the DED complexes, are they going to happen?
I've read up on the stats for the "officer" DCU's, and they seem not very impressive (for the price they may be fetching). A 1% CPU implant has a bigger impact on a Carrier's CPU than the officer DCU does. |

Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
54
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:46:00 -
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Why did they add the Faction DCU ? CPU has never been a problem on Carriers or Super Carrier?
I can see why they wouldnt want to make it +2 drones it would make Supers even more over powered. but they could have added another atribute. like 10% speed to fighters and fighter bombers or. a damage bonus.
It just seems like they added a useless moduel. |

Claire Raynor
NovaGear
27
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Posted - 2012.11.28 15:52:00 -
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Any thoughts that the Rogue Drone complex's might be able to drop Dead Space drones? I love drones. I own several. I don't really think rogue drones are all bad. I think they are just misunderstood. |

Anabaric
Kadavr Black Guard Shadow Cartel
8
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:07:00 -
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Felix Sidius
Saints Among Sinners Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:21:00 -
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Jeremy Soikutsu
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
30
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:34:00 -
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Acceptable start. You already know what needs to be done to make the Drone Lands good CCP, presumably. My only hope is it doesn't take 2 years to do it. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
801
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Crocidolite Blue
Bar Noir R O G U E
0
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:15:00 -
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Nice start to bringing up to date an often neglected part of the EvE universe.Would be nice to know what kind of drops might be expected from the Hauler drones   |

Deacon Abox
Genstar Inc Villore Accords
13
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:17:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
64
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:28:00 -
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
448
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:30:00 -
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Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
Well they do pay Concord dues for SOV: I guess they are getting paid for doing Concord's job. "Having a bad day? It takes 42 muscles to frown, but only 4 to pullthe trigger of a decent sniper rifle." - Dr. John D. Taylor |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1013
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:42:00 -
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I laughed at the NPC names. Did you have someone randomly mash the 3, 4, and 5 keys to come up with them? |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
296
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:54:00 -
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Another ISK faucet... wahoo. |

Jeremy Soikutsu
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
30
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:58:00 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:Another ISK faucet... wahoo. Yeah this will surely cause an outrageous spike of .001% of isk injected into the game. Devastation. |

BeanBagKing
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
221
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:58:00 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:Another ISK faucet... wahoo. I think you're confused about what an ISK faucet is... The officers will add a -slight- isk faucet in the way of bounties, but they are so small and so few and far between I assume you aren't referring to their bounties, but to the drops.
Drops are not an ISK faucet. They don't magically generate ISK out of thin air like bounties. In order to make ISK from a dropped module you have to sell that module to another player and that other player has to give you ISK. This isn't a faucet, just a trade. |

Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever Numquam Ambulare Solus
4
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:38:00 -
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I think you need to add standard faction and deadspace versions of these too.... |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
296
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:41:00 -
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BeanBagKing wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Another ISK faucet... wahoo. I think you're confused about what an ISK faucet is... The officers will add a -slight- isk faucet in the way of bounties, but they are so small and so few and far between I assume you aren't referring to their bounties, but to the drops.. No, you assume wrong. I am only referring to the bounties.
And, yes, it may be considered only a "slight" increase, but it is an increase all the same.
Balance consists of tweaking numbers both up and down. If you are going to add a 0.001% faucet, then you need to add a 0.001% sink, as well.
The failure to always keep this in mind is why we continue to have more ISK faucets than ISK sinks in the game. |

Jeremy Soikutsu
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
30
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:53:00 -
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Or perhaps CCP doesn't think they need to be dedicating resources to what amounts to a rounding error. |

Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
9
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Posted - 2012.11.28 19:06:00 -
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Killing drones has never been so profitable!
Thanks for keeping things in line CCP, keep up the good work! |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
3
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Posted - 2012.11.28 19:26:00 -
[71] - Quote
Sizeof Void wrote:BeanBagKing wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Another ISK faucet... wahoo. I think you're confused about what an ISK faucet is... The officers will add a -slight- isk faucet in the way of bounties, but they are so small and so few and far between I assume you aren't referring to their bounties, but to the drops.. No, you assume wrong. I am only referring to the bounties. And, yes, it may be considered only a "slight" increase, but it is an increase all the same. Balance consists of tweaking numbers both up and down. If you are going to add a 0.001% faucet, then you need to add a 0.001% sink, as well. The failure to always keep this in mind is why we continue to have more ISK faucets than ISK sinks in the game.
No, you're still wrong.
The amount of isk added by officer spawns that noone is ever going to get anyways, is actually an isk SINK, not an isk faucet.
Why? Because noone rats in the belts. However, if anyone were actually stupid enough to stop running drone hordes and patrols and such, they would be losing a ton of isk per hour, to belt rat. However, with no (valuable) faction spawns in the belts, this will be a far less profitable endeavour compared to other regions. Paired with the fact that the drops from these new officer spawns, short of the Drone Damage Amplifiers are all an absolute joke, especially the worthless DCU, (Seriously, I think this dev blog is a tongue in cheek jab at the drone regions as a whole, 'here's your officer drones, hahahahahaha. now quit complaining') people will overall be losing a lot of potential isk if they belt rat. For each person who comes out of drone anomalies in the drone regions, to belt rat, you're going to see LESS overall isk coming into the game (paired with that player actually making less overall).
Drone officers = Isk SINK reliant on people being dumb enough to belt rat in the drone regions. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
3
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:29:00 -
[72] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote:Irregessa wrote:Daedalus II wrote:LadyZelda wrote: What is the drone control unit adding? I assume easier fitting, but other than that? +2 drones per module fitted?
I want to know this as well, easier fitting is all good I guess, but it doesn't feel like the drone control units are what usually breaks a carrier fit. What I mean is that unless it does something insane like adding +2 drones per module I don't see why anyone would like to fit it given the (I assume) very high price it'll get? Easier fitting is the only change, as in less CPU. No change to powergrid or other stats. I've commented elsewhere that fitting is a non-issue, but that went unanswered. I was hoping that maybe we might see a faction carrier to totally pimp out with these 
Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
721
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:31:00 -
[73] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots.
Why is that? Officer Dcu going to increase fighters damage and reduce explosion radius for fighter bombers? Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
3
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:32:00 -
[74] - Quote
Cartosis Solette wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Hope you guys enjoy! :D I'd really love to see something in all these empty non-officer and non-sentient drone wrecks... even if it is just metal scraps 
This was actually phased out in the most recent drone regions nerf. They USED to contain alloys, which were great for building with. However, instead of bringing bounties in line, and putting loot in, in line with other regions, they decided to just put the bounties, but leave them with no loot. Think this is the first patch in what, the last 4 or 5, that affected drone regions, that isn't a nerf to their money making, and even then, it's only a 2% buff to the salvage. The new officer spawn loot is bad, and whoever made it should feel bad. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
3
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots. Why is that? Officer Dcu going to increase fighters damage and reduce explosion radius for fighter bombers?
No. Officer DCU does nothing at all. And by that I mean it has reduced CPU, when CPU was not even close to being needed. |

Eo Prime
AREA 43 Sev3rance
0
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:38:00 -
[76] - Quote
CCP FoxFour wrote: ...to find the stats of the following item: Magic Crystal Ball
There are no -stats- on the Magic Crystal Ball, ah yes .. beside of Mass 1kg and volume 1m-¦ I want one! :) |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
721
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:39:00 -
[77] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:MeBiatch wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots. Why is that? Officer Dcu going to increase fighters damage and reduce explosion radius for fighter bombers? No. Officer DCU does nothing at all. And by that I mean it has reduced CPU, when CPU was not even close to being needed.
Yeah I know that... Was hopping foxy would read it and actually make it a useful mod... My idea would do just that... Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
55
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:46:00 -
[78] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:
Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome.
Thats a Supper Carrier :) |

Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
160
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:50:00 -
[79] - Quote
Catlos JeminJees wrote:Arronicus wrote:
Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome.
Thats a Supper Carrier :)
Only if it's plated. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
4
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 19:58:00 -
[80] - Quote
Dersen Lowery wrote:Catlos JeminJees wrote:Arronicus wrote:
Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome.
Thats a Supper Carrier :) Only if it's plated.
Oh-ho, I see what you did there. Nice |

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
178
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 20:22:00 -
[81] - Quote
Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.
By that logic we wouldn't get bounties either. Or be able to track pilots.
You're still hooked into the network, they know exactly what you're doing. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1425
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 20:38:00 -
[82] - Quote
Sounds like thre Drone regions are going to heat up a bit! 
Officer drone modules! Super pilots are going to be all over this... fortunes are waiting to be made! The gold rush is on!
|

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
721
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 21:40:00 -
[83] - Quote
Gogela wrote:Sounds like thre Drone regions are going to heat up a bit!  Officer drone modules! Super pilots are going to be all over this... fortunes are waiting to be made! The gold rush is on!
so which one of the officer drone mods... do you thkink super caps will be all over?
pretty much these are going to make my pimp rattlesnake even more pimp.. but thats about it... Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
5
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 21:51:00 -
[84] - Quote
Drone Control Unit ???
Are we expecting to see drone carrier spawns ????? |

Lord Rahvin
Black Aces Against ALL Anomalies
11
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 22:03:00 -
[85] - Quote
Not sure if ccp was on drugs when they thought up these modules. But the drone control unit is pointless. The only difference is less cpu and/or powergrid. Now I'm not sure if CCP has ever flown a super carrier. But I have never once seen anyone have any troubles fitting things on a super. The prices of these modules will be so low for an officer mod, its stupid. If you wanted to make it worth hauling a 3,000 m3 item (first officer mod that big) then make it be +2 drones instead of +1. That would actually make it worth putting on those ratting supers. Not to mention all the drone "Officer" mods will not be used on titans like most other officer mods. So this too will decrease their value and how often they are used as well.
a couple other ideas
-Faction mods would be great since drones are still missing those. -Rouge drone faction ships.
|

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Intrepid Crossing
85
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 22:15:00 -
[86] - Quote
Deacon Abox wrote:Felix Sidius wrote:Anabaric wrote:010001100110100101101110011000010110110001101100011110010010110000100000011100110110111101101101011001010111010001101000011010010110111001100111001000000111011101101111011100100111010001101000011110010010000001101111011001100010000001101101011110010010000001110100011010010110110101100101 01001110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01100110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110111 01100001 01101110 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01000100 01000011 01010101 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101110 01111001 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 Posting pronograhic material will get you banned. >_> <_<
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Abramul
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
8
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 22:37:00 -
[87] - Quote
Lord Rahvin wrote:If you wanted to make it worth hauling a 3,000 m3 item Dropping the size to 250 or 500 would probably increase the utility somewhat, if combat bonuses aren't desired that might be an alternative.
Also, I, too, would like to see Rogue Drone missions. But there has to be one titled "Goodlife".
|

Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
74
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 22:49:00 -
[88] - Quote
Binary Solo And what exactly do you mean by "buffed 2% across the board" ? SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin and Eve Online Hold'Em Management |

C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
52
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 23:36:00 -
[89] - Quote
Deacon Abox wrote:Felix Sidius wrote:Anabaric wrote:010001100110100101101110011000010110110001101100011110010010110000100000011100110110111101101101011001010111010001101000011010010110111001100111001000000111011101101111011100100111010001101000011110010010000001101111011001100010000001101101011110010010000001110100011010010110110101100101 01001110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01100110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110111 01100001 01101110 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01000100 01000011 01010101 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101110 01111001 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 Posting pronograhic material will get you banned. >_> <_<
drone pron |

irishFour
Mobile Meth Lab Monkeys
19
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 23:47:00 -
[90] - Quote
OK, seriously, I appreciate the attempt, but like we used to say in the MARINES, good initiative, poor execution. Particularly, the officer drone control unit. Its unique in that, its the only capital module drop i know of in the game. Its worth is exactly that of a normal DCU, because no one needs new or better DCUs. Carriers don't suffer from fitting issues. Its just one more chuckle some gankers are going to get when they kill a needlessly pimped ratting thanatos.
So unless its parlayed with some other bonus's, like +2 drones, or improved fighter or other drone tracking, speed, damage, range. Its useless.
In the end a poor dev sat at a desk for hours and hours making a module that serves no purpose, and like skill points are to players, time is a devs most valuable resource.
Please re-examine the officer dcu's. they serve no purpose over current t1 dcus.
I propose fighter damage modification!!
I like to have my cake and eat it too |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
275
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 23:47:00 -
[91] - Quote
It would seem that, at the moment, the officer drone control units are not even worth the cargo space they take up. Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Deacon Abox
Genstar Inc Villore Accords
13
|
Posted - 2012.11.28 23:59:00 -
[92] - Quote
C DeLeon wrote:Deacon Abox wrote:Felix Sidius wrote:Anabaric wrote:010001100110100101101110011000010110110001101100011110010010110000100000011100110110111101101101011001010111010001101000011010010110111001100111001000000111011101101111011100100111010001101000011110010010000001101111011001100010000001101101011110010010000001110100011010010110110101100101 01001110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101001 01100110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110111 01100001 01101110 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01000100 01000011 01010101 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101110 01111001 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 Posting pronograhic material will get you banned. >_> <_< drone pron

and Icelandic thespian drone pron also. well played  |

fukier
Flatline.
173
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 00:04:00 -
[93] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote:It would seem that, at the moment, the officer drone control units are not even worth the cargo space they take up.
i would like to see the officer DCU get a bonus to fighter damage and fighter bomber reduction in explosion radius.
Something like for:
D-34343
Plus 1 active drone.
Fighter damage increase by 15% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 15%
then for:
F-435454
Plus 1 active drone.
Fighter damage increase by 16% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 16%
then for:
P-434554
Plus 1 active drone.
Fighter damage increase by 17% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 17%
then for:
W-634
Plus 1 active drone.
Fighter damage increase by 18% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 18%
regular stacking penalty occurs...
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1441
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 00:56:00 -
[94] - Quote
Drones giving Sec increase is something I have lobbied for forever. Woot CCP Hmmm |

Taupwnz
The Quant.
0
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 00:57:00 -
[95] - Quote
fukier wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:It would seem that, at the moment, the officer drone control units are not even worth the cargo space they take up. i would like to see the officer DCU get a bonus to fighter damage and fighter bomber reduction in explosion radius. Something like for: D-34343 Plus 1 active drone. Fighter damage increase by 15% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 15% then for: F-435454 Plus 1 active drone. Fighter damage increase by 16% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 16% then for: P-434554 Plus 1 active drone. Fighter damage increase by 17% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 17% then for: W-634 Plus 1 active drone. Fighter damage increase by 18% and fighter bomber explosion radius by 18%
regular stacking penalty occurs... Almoust it, but i suggest even more difference between that shiny modules, like: 2 of them give plus 2 active drones and low bonus to damage and expl. radius and for another just like you said. Like, i already have my damage bonus from, revenant and i want more active drones. Sure it need get balanced in that way. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
4
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 01:08:00 -
[96] - Quote
Lord Rahvin wrote:
a couple other ideas
-Rouge drone faction ships.
First off, look what you've done CCP, even the commonfolk can't spell ROGUE anymore.
Also, there ARE Rogue drone faction ships.
Rogue Drone FACTION (sentient) Battleships. Also navigate through this link to see battlecruiser, cruiser, etc, variants.
You're welcome.
Yes, that's right. For all you asking for rogue drone faction spawns, they are in the game already. Please do a little research next time before making a suggestion. The issue is not with a lack of rogue drone faction spawns, the issue is with the loot they give: Components for integrated/augmented hammerheads. In other words, absolutely worthless trash. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1429
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 01:12:00 -
[97] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Gogela wrote:Sounds like thre Drone regions are going to heat up a bit!  Officer drone modules! Super pilots are going to be all over this... fortunes are waiting to be made! The gold rush is on! so which one of the officer drone mods... do you thkink super caps will be all over? pretty much these are going to make my pimp rattlesnake even more pimp.. but thats about it... The damage mod for sure. Revenant w/ Shadow Bombers + Drone Officer Damage Mod? You don't think so? What about 5x DCUs?
|

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1429
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 01:14:00 -
[98] - Quote
Lord Rahvin wrote:a couple other ideas
-Rouge drone faction ships.
Yah... well why not bring back the "Infested Dominix"? They have the design already...
|

fukier
Flatline.
174
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 01:25:00 -
[99] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:Lord Rahvin wrote:
a couple other ideas
-Rouge drone faction ships.
First off, look what you've done CCP, even the commonfolk can't spell ROGUE anymore. Also, there ARE Rogue drone faction ships. Rogue Drone FACTION (sentient) Battleships. Also navigate through this link to see battlecruiser, cruiser, etc, variants.You're welcome. Yes, that's right. For all you asking for rogue drone faction spawns, they are in the game already. Please do a little research next time before making a suggestion. The issue is not with a lack of rogue drone faction spawns, the issue is with the loot they give: Components for integrated/augmented hammerheads. In other words, absolutely worthless trash.
i think people understand this its just that what they drop is soo useless its not worth mentioning.
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
275
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 01:28:00 -
[100] - Quote
Useless text as they are not published /facepalm. Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
721
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 01:28:00 -
[101] - Quote
Gogela wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Gogela wrote:Sounds like thre Drone regions are going to heat up a bit!  Officer drone modules! Super pilots are going to be all over this... fortunes are waiting to be made! The gold rush is on! so which one of the officer drone mods... do you thkink super caps will be all over? pretty much these are going to make my pimp rattlesnake even more pimp.. but thats about it... The damage mod for sure. Revenant w/ Shadow Bombers + Drone Officer Damage Mod? You don't think so? What about 5x DCUs?
?
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=4393
i will highlight the important stuffz
This module is for combat drones, not fighters or bombers
5 regular dcu is just as good as the best officer dcu...
as it stands the mod is useless Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
275
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 02:26:00 -
[102] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots. Why is that exactly? Are drone mods being changed to affect fighters and fighter bombers? Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Ruko Okur
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 02:38:00 -
[103] - Quote
never mind |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2027
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 02:47:00 -
[104] - Quote
Please make the Drone Control Units a passive module. It uses no cap, but for some reason you have to activate it to use it. Unless there is a good reason it should not be. If so, please explain why. Thanks!
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2027
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 02:51:00 -
[105] - Quote
Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes. I can not stress enough that sec status increase should only occur from NPCing in low security space.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2027
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 03:45:00 -
[106] - Quote
Where are the drone implants??
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
4
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 05:33:00 -
[107] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote:Useless text as they are not published /facepalm.
Here's another link for you, that has more tangible hard stats on it.
I don't know what you mean by not published, considering they have been in the game for ~7 years. |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
275
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 05:37:00 -
[108] - Quote
Asteroid Rogue Drone Commander Battleship (Not Published) that meand they only exist in data files or as npc ships, a player will never see this item in hanger Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
4
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 05:37:00 -
[109] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Sister Lumi wrote:Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes. I can not stress enough that sec status increase should only occur from NPCing in low security space.
"I can not stress enough a personal opinion I have on the way things should be changed."
This post belongs in the suggestions/ideas forum as a thread, not a derailing point in this thread... For the sake of discussion though, I can not stress enough how much I disagree with the change you desire. |

Julius Priscus
13
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 05:49:00 -
[110] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots.
no not really...
that "buff" was more like a B .
no word on the new plex's and escalation from anoms?
|

Minty Moon
8
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 05:55:00 -
[111] - Quote
Not to sound greedy, but is that all the changes coming to drone regions?
Just asking from an exploration stand point that I thought I read somewhere changes were going to be made/added to drone regions exploration sites?
If not, all this does sounds great =3
but I just have a probing addiction I need to fill =D (Player Opened Direct Wormholes) (Expanding on Wormholes) |

cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers THORN Alliance
91
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 06:02:00 -
[112] - Quote
CCP Dolan wrote:There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots.
Damn straight! =D But you are making us work harder with the NPC AI changes so overall we will see. "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |

cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers THORN Alliance
91
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 06:05:00 -
[113] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Gogela wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Gogela wrote:Sounds like thre Drone regions are going to heat up a bit!  Officer drone modules! Super pilots are going to be all over this... fortunes are waiting to be made! The gold rush is on! so which one of the officer drone mods... do you thkink super caps will be all over? pretty much these are going to make my pimp rattlesnake even more pimp.. but thats about it... The damage mod for sure. Revenant w/ Shadow Bombers + Drone Officer Damage Mod? You don't think so? What about 5x DCUs? ? http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=4393
i will highlight the important stuffz This module is for combat drones, not fighters or bombers5 regular dcu is just as good as the best officer dcu... as it stands the mod is useless
This, I dont see the point of only slightly reducing the CPU the Drone control unit uses. Why not make it allow 2 fighters at once and make it a proper officer beast of a module? "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 06:21:00 -
[114] - Quote
Is this the place were CCP once again shows they have no idea how their game functions? Baddest poster ever |

Volstruis
The Tuskers
6
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 07:14:00 -
[115] - Quote
Have you guys (CCP) considered what to do with the Drone DED sites failing across new eden yet?
This is all well and good for the nulseccers, but drone sites are still generally going to be ignored everywhere else ... |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Aslyum
77
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 08:14:00 -
[116] - Quote
handige harrie wrote:Is this the place were CCP once again shows they have no idea how their game functions?
I really hate to admit it, but this hits the nail on the head .... they really don't know the mechanics of their own game.
When drones stopped dropping materials that could be refined, the new loot/sec status/bounties should have replaced it. I don't know why CCP isn't forward thinking enough to say "If we take away something, what should we replace it with?". The sad part is what they finally replaced the material drops with isn't even worth looting now.
Sometimes I really wonder who is in charge ......
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |

Lucrecia B0rgia
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 08:32:00 -
[117] - Quote
I hope next time CCP will smoke better stuff and make some usable things in drone regions. Officers with useless DCU - its nothing. A huge work with DED drone plex'es needeed. Today they are useless too, like officer DCU, lol |

Atrium Akvidus
Red's Swashbucklers Corp Red Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 08:57:00 -
[118] - Quote
New DCU will be completely useless with reduced CPU requirements. Looks like CCP guys never tried to fit a carrier/supercarrier. I never had troubles wtih CPU there. Officer DCU needs better stats, may be a small bonus to fighter/FB damage. Or it will be worth nothing, because noone will really need it. |

Captain Semper
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
1
|
Posted - 2012.11.29 09:19:00 -
[119] - Quote
Atrium Akvidus wrote:may be a small bonus to fighter/FB damage. Or it will be worth nothing, because noone will really need it. Speed bonus on DCU mb for f\fb.
And btw what about anomalies? Will they provide officer spawn too? Or only belts? ("asteroid drone officer" on the image in blog) |

Atrium Akvidus
Red's Swashbucklers Corp Red Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.11.29 09:27:00 -
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Captain Semper wrote:Atrium Akvidus wrote:may be a small bonus to fighter/FB damage. Or it will be worth nothing, because noone will really need it. Speed bonus on DCU mb for f\fb. And btw what about anomalies? Will they provide officer spawn too? Or only belts? ("asteroid drone officer" on the image in blog)
Officers spawn only in belts. |

Jeremy Soikutsu
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
30
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Posted - 2012.11.29 09:35:00 -
[121] - Quote
I've been thinking about this for a while and now with officers this kinda matters. Do/will drones have a home region? |

Atrium Akvidus
Red's Swashbucklers Corp Red Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.11.29 09:43:00 -
[122] - Quote
I know, I know what is going on! CCP is trolling drone regions!  |

Rob Crowley
State War Academy
17
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Posted - 2012.11.29 10:32:00 -
[123] - Quote
Sizeof Void wrote:I am only referring to the bounties.
Balance consists of tweaking numbers both up and down. If you are going to add a 0.001% faucet, then you need to add a 0.001% sink, as well. No, you don't need to balance ISK faucets directly with ISK sinks, for several reasons.
First off, killing drone officers is a completely new occupation, this means players who are going to do it and use the ISK faucet would very likely have used another ISK faucet instead which they won't use anymore when they are busy hunting drone officers. So if the drone officer faucet isn't bigger than the alternatives' ISK faucets (and I doubt it is) then this change doesn't increase the overall value of ISK faucets in the game.
Secondly, even if this change increased the overall ISK faucet value in the game and created more ISK than before it would still not be a problem. Because it is balanced with a material faucet in the form of probably quite valuable drops. I'm pretty sure for each of the drone officer mod drops you'll have made less bounties from the officers than the mod is worth on the market. If I'm correct with this assumption then this change will decrease inflation (by a tiny bit) even though it adds an ISK faucet.
P.S. +1 for making drone sites in empire worth running. |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:15:00 -
[124] - Quote
Rob Crowley wrote: P.S. +1 for making drone sites in empire worth running.
Care to explain how officer spawns make empire sites worth running? since I see to be missing something....
Also,
are the changes to salvage % increase relative or absolute, so if a drops has 5% chance to occur, is it now 2% of 5% (1.02 * 1.05) more change, or 5% + 2% (1.05 +1.02) Baddest poster ever |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
277
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:26:00 -
[125] - Quote
handige harrie wrote:Rob Crowley wrote: P.S. +1 for making drone sites in empire worth running.
Care to explain how officer spawns make empire sites worth running? since I see to be missing something.... Also, are the changes to salvage % increase relative or absolute, so if a drops has 5% chance to occur, is it now 2% of 5% (1.02 * 1.05) more change, or 5% + 2% (1.05 +1.02) It most likely went from 5% to 7%, because that is something that will see a meaningful amount of extra salvage, going from 5% to 5.1% would mean almost nothing. Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Rob Crowley
State War Academy
17
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:39:00 -
[126] - Quote
handige harrie wrote:Rob Crowley wrote: P.S. +1 for making drone sites in empire worth running.
Care to explain how officer spawns make empire sites worth running? since I see to be missing something.... Sorry, that was not well-worded by me, I meant to agree with the people in this thread asking for improvements of empire drone sites after those nullsec improvements.
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Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:11:00 -
[127] - Quote
iskflakes wrote:Yeah, dead on arrival :( All carriers and supers can already fit a full rack of 5 DCUs with a full tank and have CPU to spare, so there is literally no point in this CPU bonus. I suggest increasing the number of drones deployable to 2, THAT would be something worth spending a few billion on (and will give the Drone Region owners something worth its weight in technetium, which they completely lack).
Confirming. Those officer drone modules looks totally useless/wothless. I havent have cpu problems with carrier ever. But instead ive had power grid problems to fit 2 x capital rr with 2 x local capital reps and 3 drone control units. Soo while power grid is the issue why give cpu bonus? |

Zecheesey Mozzarela
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:33:00 -
[128] - Quote
Darius III wrote:Drones giving Sec increase is something I have lobbied for forever. Woot CCP
Because security increase is so important in nullsec...woohoo go CSM! Celebrating another year of doing nothing! |

Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.11.29 12:39:00 -
[129] - Quote
Zecheesey Mozzarela wrote:Darius III wrote:Drones giving Sec increase is something I have lobbied for forever. Woot CCP Because security increase is so important in nullsec...woohoo go CSM! Celebrating another year of doing nothing!
Well it is imho. When you go in lowsec roam and go -5. Then when you come back to your drone region home your not getting your sec status back up w/o sec increase.. Which also means that yor f'd up next time when you fly your hauler to jita buy some stuff.. Being -10 in jita while flying your iteron mark v is not very smart..
Also are you saying theres something wrong with sec status ratting? And where it should be done instead? Maybe lowsec? Or hisec? I bet it will take while to get positive from -10 with hisec rats  |

Kip Troger
Exiled Kings Enlightened Violence
0
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Posted - 2012.11.29 13:13:00 -
[130] - Quote
Miccet wrote:Good stuff! I guess this won't change the nearly useless drone DED complex sites more than maybe a bit sec status and some % more salvage? Would be nice with drone faction modules as well to buff these sites. As or right now they simply aren't worth the time.
I am surprised that with all the questions in this forum containing this topic, CCP has not confirmed or denied anything about DED complexes... |

iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
104
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Posted - 2012.11.29 14:07:00 -
[131] - Quote
Has there been a response from CCP on the uselessness of the officer DCU yet?
It should be +2 drones or a % to fighter/bomber damage if you ask me. CPU is useless. |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
277
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Posted - 2012.11.29 15:31:00 -
[132] - Quote
There has been no work from ccp since page 1. I believe this is the least amount of feed back from ccp in a dev blog ever....... Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
3039
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Posted - 2012.11.29 16:18:00 -
[133] - Quote
Kip Troger wrote:Miccet wrote:Good stuff! I guess this won't change the nearly useless drone DED complex sites more than maybe a bit sec status and some % more salvage? Would be nice with drone faction modules as well to buff these sites. As or right now they simply aren't worth the time. I am surprised that with all the questions in this forum containing this topic, CCP has not confirmed or denied anything about DED complexes...
Because nothing is happening with them. Even minor rebalances to those sites has historically been adverticed by CCP as some kind of big thing. Keeping that in mind it's fairly obvious, that they didn't buff the drone DED sites in any meaningful way and they will continue to be sub par sites. |

Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
55
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Posted - 2012.11.29 16:53:00 -
[134] - Quote
iskflakes wrote:Has there been a response from CCP on the uselessness of the officer DCU yet?
It should be +2 drones or a % to fighter/bomber damage if you ask me. CPU is useless.
I also would like to see a reply from CCP about the DCU's
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Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
55
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Posted - 2012.11.29 16:56:00 -
[135] - Quote
Destination SkillQueue wrote:Kip Troger wrote:Miccet wrote:Good stuff! I guess this won't change the nearly useless drone DED complex sites more than maybe a bit sec status and some % more salvage? Would be nice with drone faction modules as well to buff these sites. As or right now they simply aren't worth the time. I am surprised that with all the questions in this forum containing this topic, CCP has not confirmed or denied anything about DED complexes... Because nothing is happening with them. Even minor rebalances to those sites has historically been adverticed by CCP as some kind of big thing. Keeping that in mind it's fairly obvious, that they didn't buff the drone DED sites in any meaningful way and they will continue to be sub par sites.
And thats what buggs me. they make it sound like its such a great thing and get your hopes up. and then they give you a lame duck.
its like when boat calls a fleet and says hey "we got guys to shoot they said they are going to fight us this time" then when you titan bridge in its an ihub that needs to get reinforced. Dam you boat and dam you CCP. |

Berluth Luthian
14th Legion Black Core Alliance
21
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Posted - 2012.11.29 17:01:00 -
[136] - Quote
Maybe its just going to be a kind of mineral drop? |

Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
159
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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:17:00 -
[137] - Quote
Great stuff, as always. Wondering now if rogue drone faction mods are also in the works.
Three notes:
(1) I'm not sure a 2% increase in salvage value will change anything. Rogue drone salvage is infamously terrible, to the point where most folk don't bother salvaging the sites.
(2) As has been pointed out, the rogue drone complexes are awful from an income perspective, although they do make a nice occasional break from the anomaly grind. The only worthwhile complex is the 10/10, and even it pales in comparison with pirate 10/10 complexes. I think the big issue is the relative uselessness of advanced ('augmented') drones and of faction drones in general, and the lack of officer/faction drops.
(3) Not sure if this is still the case, but last I checked (back in April), the rogue drone exploration sites were mislabeled in the scanner window. For example, Abandoned Research Complex DA025 was labeled as 'Magnetometric' (requiring a Salvager/Analyzer); but the containers required a Codebreaker to open, so it should have been labeled as a 'Radar' site instead. I opened a bug report on this (ID 133645), but it timed out for lack of attention a week or so ago. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1030

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Posted - 2012.11.29 18:22:00 -
[138] - Quote
Alice Katsuko wrote: (3) Not sure if this is still the case, but last I checked (back in April), the rogue drone exploration sites were mislabeled in the scanner window. For example, Abandoned Research Complex DA025 was labeled as 'Magnetometric' (requiring a Salvager/Analyzer); but the containers required a Codebreaker to open, so it should have been labeled as a 'Radar' site instead. I opened a bug report on this (ID 133645), but it timed out for lack of attention a week or so ago.
Can you submit a bug report on this please. I am not aware of us having changed this so if it was broken it probably still is and really should be fixed. Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
278
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Posted - 2012.11.29 20:06:00 -
[139] - Quote
@CCP FoxFour is there some kind of master plan for the DCUs? Because at the moment they seem more or less pointless. Even as simple yes or now would help clear up some major confusion. Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1435
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:33:00 -
[140] - Quote
Ahhhh... I see. Yup you are right, my bad... 
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iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
107
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:39:00 -
[141] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote:@CCP FoxFour is there some kind of master plan for the DCUs? Because at the moment they seem more or less pointless. Even as simple yes or now would help clear up some major confusion.
I would like a response too. |

fukier
Flatline.
177
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:48:00 -
[142] - Quote
iskflakes wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:@CCP FoxFour is there some kind of master plan for the DCUs? Because at the moment they seem more or less pointless. Even as simple yes or now would help clear up some major confusion. I would like a response too.
not empty quoting... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |

Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
26
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Posted - 2012.11.29 22:01:00 -
[143] - Quote
IMO, an increase to damage for fighters/bombers for the officer DCUs would potentially detract from the racial bonus of the Thanny/Nyx. Boosting the drone bonus from 1 to 2 would make a super even more impressive in terms of dps. The problem is finding something that can benefit supers as well as regular carriers, given the supers' limitation on drone type, without being OP.
Fighter/bomber HP? With the change to NPC AI, this might be more of a concern to those who rat with fighters. |

Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
55
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:13:00 -
[144] - Quote
fukier wrote:iskflakes wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:@CCP FoxFour is there some kind of master plan for the DCUs? Because at the moment they seem more or less pointless. Even as simple yes or now would help clear up some major confusion. I would like a response too. not empty quoting...
Also not empty quoting.....
An idea for them would be to Half their size so instead of 4k its 2k and maybe a speed bonus to fighters and fighter bombers |

TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
69
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:52:00 -
[145] - Quote
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Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune Celestial Imperative
68
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Posted - 2012.11.30 02:48:00 -
[146] - Quote
Sentient Blade wrote:Good idea but really rubbish names for the officer mods... can't we just give them proper names and say they were named after the first person to encounter them or something? :)
[rp] While we approve of the naming structure chosen by CONCORD, we feel we must hasten to mention that Unit Commune is not directly related to these new command node drone models.
We Return.
[/rp] |

Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune Celestial Imperative
68
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Posted - 2012.11.30 02:50:00 -
[147] - Quote
Jeremy Soikutsu wrote:I've been thinking about this for a while and now with officers this kinda matters. Do/will drones have a home region?
surely they have 8....
read up on Code Aria and Operation spectrum breach.
those areas known as the 'drone regions' are their home. |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
280
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Posted - 2012.11.30 05:11:00 -
[148] - Quote
Catlos JeminJees wrote:fukier wrote:iskflakes wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:@CCP FoxFour is there some kind of master plan for the DCUs? Because at the moment they seem more or less pointless. Even as simple yes or now would help clear up some major confusion. I would like a response too. not empty quoting... Also not empty quoting..... An idea for them would be to Half their size so instead of 4k its 2k and maybe a speed bonus to fighters and fighter bombers Size is not an issue, if it has to have a dedicated hauler then it should be at least worth risking another ship for. To keep it in line with other officer mods the cpu should be higher than the standard and give a better effect than the standard one. Speed increase, hp increase, tracking increase are things that could be applied to them, though they should be small enough boost that a stacking penalty would not be necessary. Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
5
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Posted - 2012.11.30 08:18:00 -
[149] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote:Catlos JeminJees wrote:fukier wrote:iskflakes wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:@CCP FoxFour is there some kind of master plan for the DCUs? Because at the moment they seem more or less pointless. Even as simple yes or now would help clear up some major confusion. I would like a response too. not empty quoting... Also not empty quoting..... An idea for them would be to Half their size so instead of 4k its 2k and maybe a speed bonus to fighters and fighter bombers Size is not an issue, if it has to have a dedicated hauler then it should be at least worth risking another ship for. To keep it in line with other officer mods the cpu should be higher than the standard and give a better effect than the standard one. Speed increase, hp increase, tracking increase are things that could be applied to them, though they should be small enough boost that a stacking penalty would not be necessary.
I think the main issue at hand, was trying to give a module that is already ridiculously easy to fit, with a bonus that can't really be changed without making things far overpowered, an officer variant. The real solution here is to scrap the officer DCU, and give us something else worthwhile. Drones all the other modules other officers use, they boost shields, armor, they MWD, etc. Give us something that you can actually modify the bonus without breaking the game on.
If they made the officer variant give a bonus that is not on the tech 1 version, this would be a precedent, and I don't think one they want to set. |

Zecheesey Mozzarela
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.11.30 13:44:00 -
[150] - Quote
As there is a conventional tactic of assigning drones to somebody else maybe you could swap the useless officer dcu for something that either allows more drones to be assigned or the ability to have fighter bombers assigned to them |

Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
282
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Posted - 2012.12.01 00:30:00 -
[151] - Quote
Arronicus wrote: If they made the officer variant give a bonus that is not on the tech 1 version, this would be a precedent, and I don't think one they want to set.
That is a matter of prospective, a carrier can only control 10 drones without the use of drone control units, so one could look at the extra drones as +10% to drone damage and HP per drone control unit. Looking at it like that, giving an additional bonus to tracking and MWD velocity (maybe HP also) would be exactly what a officer module would do. Such a modification could pave the way for T2 drone control units that perform in a similar way, example of such would be
T2 Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing V Meta 5 CPU 8500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity
Federation Navy Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 6 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity
Imperial Navy Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 6 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity
Dread Guristas Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 7 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity
Rogue Drone Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 8 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity
D-34343's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 11 CPU 8500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 3.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity
F-435454's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 12 CPU 9000 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 4% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity
P-343554's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 13 CPU 9500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 4.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity
W-634's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 14 CPU 10000 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity Ideas for Drone Improvement Updated 11/16/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Aslyum
78
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Posted - 2012.12.01 05:05:00 -
[152] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote:Arronicus wrote: If they made the officer variant give a bonus that is not on the tech 1 version, this would be a precedent, and I don't think one they want to set.
That is a matter of prospective, a carrier can only control 10 drones without the use of drone control units, so one could look at the extra drones as +10% to drone damage and HP per drone control unit. Looking at it like that, giving an additional bonus to tracking and MWD velocity (maybe HP also) would be exactly what a officer module would do. Such a modification could pave the way for T2 drone control units that perform in a similar way, example of such would be T2 Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing V Meta 5 CPU 8500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity Federation Navy Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 6 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity Imperial Navy Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 6 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity Dread Guristas Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 7 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity Rogue Drone Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 8 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity D-34343's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 11 CPU 8500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 3.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity F-435454's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 12 CPU 9000 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 4% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity P-343554's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 13 CPU 9500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 4.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity W-634's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 14 CPU 10000 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity
Why does it take a player, instead of CCP, to come up with a solid idea for the modules? I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |

Deathwing Reborn
39
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Posted - 2012.12.01 16:18:00 -
[153] - Quote
So is there going to be more coming for Drone Regions than what you put into this blog? Because so far I am not impressed. I have sifted through a few other forums posts and agree that you are loosely putting on a band-aid where you really need to spend some time.
I like that you are finally going to add Officers to drone regions but honestly, they are no where even close to other officer modules.Like others have suggested they are more like faction modules. Not to mention you still have not added ANY faction modules to go on sentient drops that still have crap for loot.
I seen you are going to be adding new content to drone regions as well, but do not see if you are going to add all of the complexes that we are missing.
The way I see it you are still going to do like you always do for drone regions and do a half @ssed job and call it the end all of fixes for the drone regions so we should be happy. |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Aslyum
78
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Posted - 2012.12.01 16:46:00 -
[154] - Quote
Deathwing Reborn wrote:The way I see it you are still going to do like you always do for drone regions and do a half @ssed job and call it the end all of fixes for the drone regions so we should be happy.
Sounds like the Unfixable Inventory, doesn't it?
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |

Mika Takahoshi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.12.02 04:17:00 -
[155] - Quote
Abdiel Kavash wrote:I laughed at the NPC names. Did you have someone randomly mash the 3, 4, and 5 keys to come up with them? "Randomly"? You didn't catch the references?  |

Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.12.02 12:06:00 -
[156] - Quote
This is very disapoiting. I was promsed by CCP that DED were going to be targeted. Instead i find nothing of this sort. These new changes are worthless. Why bother with worthless and instead give us what we asked for? |

Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.12.02 13:42:00 -
[157] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote:Arronicus wrote: If they made the officer variant give a bonus that is not on the tech 1 version, this would be a precedent, and I don't think one they want to set.
That is a matter of prospective, a carrier can only control 10 drones without the use of drone control units, so one could look at the extra drones as +10% to drone damage and HP per drone control unit. Looking at it like that, giving an additional bonus to tracking and MWD velocity (maybe HP also) would be exactly what a officer module would do. Such a modification could pave the way for T2 drone control units that perform in a similar way, example of such would be T2 Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing V Meta 5 CPU 8500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity Federation Navy Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 6 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity Imperial Navy Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 6 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity Dread Guristas Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 7 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity Rogue Drone Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 8 CPU 7500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 2.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking and MWD velocity D-34343's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 11 CPU 8500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 3.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity F-435454's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 12 CPU 9000 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 4% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity P-343554's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 13 CPU 9500 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 4.5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity W-634's Modified Drone Control Unit, advanced drone interfacing I Meta 14 CPU 10000 PowerGrid 75000 +1 drone control 5% Increase to fighter/drone tracking, HP and MWD velocity
/me supports these dcu's.. Can we have these pls..
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Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
244
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Posted - 2012.12.03 18:50:00 -
[158] - Quote
Andrea Roche wrote:This is very disapoiting.DED were not targeted. Were is the fun? These new changes are worthless. Why is it that CCP claims to listen to the player base but instead does the oposite. The player based in the drone region asked for DED and instead they got worhtless drone drops which are gonna be very hard to run into since they are officers not to mention they are cheap drops. The drone region nerf was too hard and this new changes makes no difference / are a joke. Also hy does the drone regions only drops drones stuff? Doesnt the drones use armor reps or mwd? If not then how is it that they rep or move that fast? Not even hardeners or special plates or remote reppers? Why bother with worthless and instead give us what we asked for? Wasn't the original nerf to the drone regions to stop the rampant botting out there? Or at least to create a disincentive?
I think this is why these changes seem half as much as they shoudl be. They are a good start.
I'd rather see some kind of drone control mods or a gang link mod that allow the drones to shed threat back onto the main ship. That would be a great counter for the new NPC AI that was really a giant nerf to drones in general. Or, give fighters some mid-power slots where you could either put in a MWD or a threat shedding mod of some kind...
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Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.12.03 19:26:00 -
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Urgg Boolean wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:This is very disapoiting.DED were not targeted. Were is the fun? These new changes are worthless. Why is it that CCP claims to listen to the player base but instead does the oposite. The player based in the drone region asked for DED and instead they got worhtless drone drops which are gonna be very hard to run into since they are officers not to mention they are cheap drops. The drone region nerf was too hard and this new changes makes no difference / are a joke. Also hy does the drone regions only drops drones stuff? Doesnt the drones use armor reps or mwd? If not then how is it that they rep or move that fast? Not even hardeners or special plates or remote reppers? Why bother with worthless and instead give us what we asked for? Wasn't the original nerf to the drone regions to stop the rampant botting out there? Or at least to create a disincentive? I think this is why these changes seem half as much as they shoudl be. They are a good start. I'd rather see some kind of drone control mods or a gang link mod that allow the drones to shed threat back onto the main ship. That would be a great counter for the new NPC AI that was really a giant nerf to drones in general. Or, give fighters some mid-power slots where you could either put in a MWD or a threat shedding mod of some kind...
Botting happens everywhere in eve and i mean EVERYWHERE. From high sec to low sec, 0.0, wormhole, north, south, east and west. Even those entities that are anti-bots have plenty of bots to speak of today and many choose to do or say nothing about it for 'x' reasons. |

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Posted - 2012.12.03 19:40:00 -
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Urgg Boolean wrote: Wasn't the original nerf to the drone regions to stop the rampant botting out there? Or at least to create a disincentive?
Botters played a part in it, but largely because they resulted in a large quantity of "gun mining," rather than the barges-and-rocks variety. CCP want you to hit the belts, or at least the grav sites, if you want large quantities of minerals.
And while bot fleets are especially obnoxious because their in-game presence lowers the node performance for everyone else, I hope CCP is also looking at other forms of RMT. They're out there, and a singular emphasis on bot-banning just gives the alliances that engage in more subtle forms of RMT an unfair advantage. |
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