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Ch33z0rz
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Posted - 2005.04.30 03:56:00 -
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.04.30 04:16:00 -
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Not Signed, **** ***** mesuring tests.
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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anter
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Posted - 2005.04.30 04:21:00 -
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Official killboards would be bad and really doubt CCP would do it. This is so old debate that I bet they would have done it already if they wanted it in game, since I doubt it would require so much effort to add.
Kill mails are there and you can keep track on your own kills already. Having official kill boards would promote wrong type pvp even more than we already have that hardcore pvpers go look for soft targets from some newbies, players could still increase their score by killing alts (so wouldnt fix fake kill mails), attacking others without reason would increase and there would be more gate camping and blobs than ever (look what happen in wow).
Reading some of these threads about fake kill mails are quite funny and would hate see them gone. These are like eves version of propaganda.
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2005.04.30 04:29:00 -
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I do my fair share of PvP.
No.
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Tisiph0ne
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Posted - 2005.04.30 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tisiph0ne on 30/04/2005 05:37:18
A vote for this is a vote for more smacktalkers opting to interact in even more meaningless ways!
I don't know where this came from or who created it. Probably from this community though.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.04.30 05:37:00 -
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Not signed, it would remove a lot of fun from the game imho.
Propaganda and debating killboards 4tw!
Eve Blacklight Style
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.04.30 05:39:00 -
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I think Ballistic Void's attitude is proof enough we don't need an official killboard. That would simply breed more posts by those of her mindset who can't take disagreement. There's too many people here who would start bloodbaths all over the galaxy of pointless ganks just to be #1. We already have plenty of people here boasting about having the most kills when most of their targets are shuttles, noob ships, and Indies. Those who think points from "kill quality" will influence them are deluded.
PvP is supposed to have a point in Eve, not just some stupid number associated with it so someone can say "I win! JOO SUXX0RS!"
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.04.30 05:58:00 -
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No.
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Aralin
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Posted - 2005.04.30 06:14:00 -
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It would probably encourage PVP.
It might encourage PVP, but I doubt it would encourage any of the better aspects of PVP. Its simply adding one more risk to all the risks already taken by a PVP oriented player who hunts other PVP oriented players. I'd certainly expect raw kill numbers to increase slightly as those who enjoy p***s measuring slaughter newbies and carebears to pad their kill counts.
Lots of folks are going to say "I'm not like that, I wouldn't do that" and shockingly enough, I'll believe alot of you. If you are saying that, do you really believe the "other guy" be like that and wont do that ?
The game needs newbies and carebears as much as it needs PVP players, this would just make it suck more for them.
I'd expect to see less honorable combat, which is all too rare now, fewer one on ones, fewer small fleet and small ship actions because they carry more risk to the individual than fleet blobbing a weaker force, again these are things that are too rare already.
I'd expect to see more ships with lows full of stabs, more blobbing, more logging off when scrambled, more safe-spotting and hiding from anything beginning to resemble an even fight. More "PVPers", you know the kind who sit at gates in .4, tanking sentries and leave when someone jumps in ready to really fight, waiting to gank every Velator and Ibis that used autopilot and jumped in to .4 w/o getting the warning.
Overall... I have to say no, no official Eve killboard.
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.04.30 06:34:00 -
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Eve isnt all about stats, just play the game, if you dont like the whining and propaganda dont read the forums.
NO to the killboard
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There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Amaron Ghant
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Posted - 2005.04.30 06:37:00 -
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Heh id rather smacktalk m3g4 in local and then try to run through their blockade in an indy than sign this.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.04.30 07:11:00 -
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Another good point to expand on Aralin's post. Go look at WoW. The devs there didn't think they needed a dishonor system because they thought everybody would be honorable and engage in fair fights against people of equal level. Instead, there's a TON of ganking of lower level people who don't have a chance against the L60s who are running rampant across the servers.
The same would happen here. While a lot of people would use a killboard "honorably" to compare themselves against others, etc, too many will just use it to measure their e-wang, because they think if they have 10 million kills they're 1337, even if those kills are all noobs and shuttles.
It would simply be too vulnerable to exploiting the system, and the source of all new arguments about who's really the best. In the end, nothing would really be different, save that the exciting profession of Minister of Propoganda would cease to exist.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.04.30 07:15:00 -
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I would like a personal killboard viewable only to me BUT exportable as XML.
This would then allow this data to be parsed onto corporations official killboards. Basically, automating the whole process of posting kills/losses.
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sloany
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Posted - 2005.04.30 07:19:00 -
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If for whatever reason Eve gets a killboard, I think it should be limited to official concord sanctioned wars and made available at the end of each war.
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Aelius
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Posted - 2005.04.30 07:54:00 -
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signed
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.04.30 08:00:00 -
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Not signed!
I've never seen a killboard during a RL conflict so there shouldn't be one in game either.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.04.30 08:51:00 -
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.............
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Not signed!
I've never seen a killboard during a RL conflict so there shouldn't be one in game either.
They had one in vietnam... Before both our times prolly.
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:13:00 -
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NO
This game is about so much more things then simply collecting killmails to improve your ranking.
With an official EVE killboard people tend to forget that and people will start to really do stupid stuff just to improve their standing and stick 0% risk ganking not to mess it up. This epeen bahaviour sucks.
The amount of flaming because of inaccurate killboards will be nothing compared to when people will start flaming others over boosting their standing with kiddy CS behaviour.
Anyway at least now it can still be considered PvP politics/propaganda, which is kind of fun.
It doesn't matter that looking at these boards is your own choice, the players that will see it as the meter of how uber they are in EVE, will still mess it up anyway.
Also there is always a ton of info on those boards to be found that people don't want to have public.
Killboards are evil, mmkay?
(just my opinion)
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Not signed!
I've never seen a killboard during a RL conflict so there shouldn't be one in game either.
They had one in vietnam... Before both our times prolly.
Maybe, but those were likely inaccurate propaganda tools and not a 100% accurate killboard kept by god or something.
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Lo3d3R on 30/04/2005 09:28:27
S I G N E D
although the link doesnt work so i sign it here, now plz CCP when you do it do it right, dont show npc kills ehhe, and plz put in everything else PVP wise IN since one was born in EVE.
alliance stats, individual stats, corp stats, kill/loss mail will be put automaticly in the stats no screwing around and give everyone a checkbox so that the ones that dont want to show there there individual stats can do so this way there be no whining...
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Ohmite
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:25:00 -
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I personally think we should have - no more false kill mails and people not posting loses etc.
I agree they should make the database available for other people to do the front end so then its up to the players what they do with it.
If you dont wont a kill board then dont look at it - simple
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Not signed!
I've never seen a killboard during a RL conflict so there shouldn't be one in game either.
this may very well be the most dumb post i have ever seen on EVE-ONLINE forums, congratulations 
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:41:00 -
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No
Please click me for a better tool to measure your e-tool.
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Reku
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:42:00 -
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No thanks
There is tools to keep track your kills and even without kill-mails it shouldnt be too hard to see and remember the name of your enemy. Players wouldnt see the name of their enemy anymore, but score +1, if there was official kill board.
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:54:00 -
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Even Joshua agrees with me  People we already have the damn killmails, in an ideal world everyone would post them. Automating the posting is hardly a gamebreaking change... Also to the guy whining about it being exploitable, wtf? It would cut down on exploting ffs, Spinal wouldn't be able to post his test server kills for example.
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2005.04.30 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Balistic Void
Even Joshua agrees with me People we already have the damn killmails, in an ideal world everyone would post them. Automating the posting is hardly a gamebreaking change... Also to the guy whining about it being exploitable, wtf? It would cut down on exploting ffs, Spinal wouldn't be able to post his test server kills for example.
In an ideal world?
I don't want to be rude, obviously this is important to you, but consider the fact that this would be bad for the game and some people don't actually care....
I don't understand exactly how this would cut doen on exploiting. Why don't you explain?
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.04.30 10:01:00 -
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I did explain - people wouldn't be able to post fake killmails if the true data was exposed. Also if you don't care about kills you can just ignore them. It's quite frustrating being in a 1000+ person alliance sometimes. Some people are so clueless they don't know how to post killmails, let alone losses. Then the alliance gets *****ed at by their enemies for not declaring true statistics...
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.04.30 10:02:00 -
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Maybe expose kills for alliances only? Would this be acceptable to the carebears?
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.04.30 10:03:00 -
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Say NO to turning eve into a huge e-peen measurement fest!
You know it makes sense...
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