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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.05.03 18:55:00 -
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U don't need to be a sociopath to be in 0.0, but it helps...
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.05.03 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mindblank
Originally by: Selim
Originally by: Mortuus
And ignore Selim, JF are nothing more than anarchist vagabonds.
Perhaps, but we do keep our word. PA, in contrast, absolutely love to sign treaties, only to break them days later without warning. Consistency is best - I'd sooner dine with Istvaan Shogaatsu than Raven deBlade.
Raven DeBlade is a honorable man who ALWAYS sticks to his principles. However, he's not much into political conspiracy, which makes him quite different from JF.
I don't know what treaties you're referring to, but there is, as always, two perspectives (at least) on how things are viewed.
He doesn't do a good job of reeling in all the ****s in the PA, though - you have some fine folk in the PA, but the sour apples ruin it all.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.05.03 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Originally by: Mindblank
Originally by: Selim
Originally by: Mortuus
And ignore Selim, JF are nothing more than anarchist vagabonds.
Perhaps, but we do keep our word. PA, in contrast, absolutely love to sign treaties, only to break them days later without warning. Consistency is best - I'd sooner dine with Istvaan Shogaatsu than Raven deBlade.
Raven DeBlade is a honorable man who ALWAYS sticks to his principles. However, he's not much into political conspiracy, which makes him quite different from JF.
I don't know what treaties you're referring to, but there is, as always, two perspectives (at least) on how things are viewed.
He doesn't do a good job of reeling in all the ****s in the PA, though - you have some fine folk in the PA, but the sour apples ruin it all.
Selim, what is your obsession with the PA? Its not like JF and your Star Fraction is comprised of the most likeable people in the galaxy eh? I bet a lot more people like PA than they do JF and thats gotta mean sumin doesnt it.
Oh wait I'm not PA anymore, but I like sticking up for them. They are fine fellows.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Albus
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Posted - 2005.05.03 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bonaventure Augustine
Originally by: Ikvar 0.0 is a combat area...
No, its 70% of the map controlled by 7% of the player base, and not because they work for it. The alliances don't control regions to sustain their alliances, they do it for the prestige and to have 4000 systems to skirmish in. Hundreds of corps that could use that space productively are cut out. Heck, half the time alliances are fighting in empire and running lvl4 missions themselves.
I think the hope of most carebears is that the NWO is going to make it impossible for alliances to lay claim to entire regions thanks to five guys guarding one gate; so that if you want to kill a mining corp convoy they actually have to get off their butts and give chase instead of herding folks through chokepoints.
Any corp that can't muster enough people to scare away 5 gate campers doesn't deserve to be in 0.0. Get a gang together, kick their butts and then go have a look around.
To paraphrase you, hundreds of corps that could use that space productively are cut out cos they can't be arsed to make the effort and want it all handed to them on a plate. 0.0 is about teamwork, if you can't work as a team then stay in empire where you belong.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.05.03 20:18:00 -
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Placatio would you pay money for people to take you into 0.0 and watch your back while you do missions?
I have been giving some thought to opening a 'safari-tour' type business where we escrot people who have never been to 0.0. The services would be structured in the form of:
1. Training of basic evasion and pvp techniques in low sec empire space. Training would include getting chased by our associates in a controlled environment and see if you can avoid getting ganked.
2. After one week of (1), you come down into 0.0 with us and we can hook you up with a covert op frig with cloak, so you can watch what happens in different systems in relative safety.
3. Alternative to (2). You can take a more active role and kill people we have webbed. scrambled and jammed and generally served up on a platter. The corpse would look good on the wall in your Yulai flat. Would be a nice conversation piece with the Amarrian Ambassador to Concord.
4. Locate some of the really mean npc spawns for you.
You're a rich man, when you travel to 0.0 space you need to do it in style. --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

Bedrock
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Posted - 2005.05.03 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Placatio I'm merely asking how I get into it.
I've gone into 0.0 and asked calmly and even defenselessly at a gate and just been shot.
That's cool and fun for you?
Its called networking. Getting involved with alliances, joining a corporation that is already in the alliance. 0.0 is not for single individuals to simply fulfill their curiosity. Perhaps if you had enough corp-mates you guys can do it without any policy and (turn into pirates). 
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Suze'Rain
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Posted - 2005.05.03 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin I have been giving some thought to opening a 'safari-tour' type business where we escrot people who have never been to 0.0. You're a rich man, when you travel to 0.0 space you need to do it in style.
Saladin, I don;t know if it'd be possible, but it's a wonderfully surreal image. Pith helmets and Tea on the savannah, old chaps? "jolly good shot old chap. bagged yourself a battleship captain, what oh?" ___________
back on-topic, the only bit of the 0.0 "sociopaths" I've had objection with is on trying to contact a few to get requests of info, and having been completely ignored - does'nt take much common courtesy for "PR" to say no, osrry, not interested, or no, that's not possible. Equally, I contacted Imperium Alliance for an event, for Eve-Radio, and the response was superb - decent people all around, so, I suppose it's fair to say that it depends on who you meet.
Course, if I'd gone in without contacting them, I expect I'd have been blown out of the sky... so it's down to how you deal with people, I suspect.
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.05.03 21:08:00 -
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Darken, I think you'll find that you and Mortuus brought me and JF up in this conversation - I didn't start it. And honestly, you're the one with that is obsessed with jericho. Turning this thread into a popularity contest is stupid, the guy wanted to know what makes people in 0.0 tick and I told him how it is, you have to kill or be killed.
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.05.03 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains Edited by: ollobrains on 03/05/2005 04:39:44 Just basic advice instas and logoff are in the game are not considered exploits so use em wherever you are threatened - this goes to all players. Until they are actually changed use em to the max and annoy those pesky gatecampers.
Instas are a good thing.. logging off is so F@#KING LAME!!! anyone that loggs off shouldn't be in 0.0. just means you can't handle it.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.05.03 23:17:00 -
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Why is it that every time someone posts on a subject that's got something to do with people shooting at eachother that we end up in the usual 'griefer' versus 'carebear' arguments ?
I thought it was quite clear now that there is no such distinction ?
As for gatecamping getting ended, let me assure you that 100 new entrances to 0.0 from secure space will have only a very limited effect. Combine it with a possible nerf of logging off in combat (is bound to happen sooner or later), and you will get killed regardless, just by people movign about instead of sitting still.
The *only* way to survive here is to smarten up. And that is exactly ike it should be. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Fellhand
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Posted - 2005.05.03 23:30:00 -
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Sociopath? No. Ruthless? Oh yes... _______________________________________________ There is no such thing as too much cynicism
Flame me if you wish, I laugh with scorn at threats...
Beware of geeks bearing gifs
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Ronzap
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Posted - 2005.05.04 00:12:00 -
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I've found 0.0 to be fairly safe once you get past the choke points, you can find instas on escrow most of the time, or perhaps someone in your corp might have some, but really they're only absolutely needed at the chokepoints... the majority of systems don't seem to have anyone in them anyway.
You can always build your own, especially if you logon just before or after downtime.
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Fellhand
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Posted - 2005.05.04 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ronzap I've found 0.0 to be fairly safe once you get past the choke points, you can find instas on escrow most of the time, or perhaps someone in your corp might have some, but really they're only absolutely needed at the chokepoints... the majority of systems don't seem to have anyone in them anyway.
With the exception of the really juicy systems. Even in 0.0, systems with things like Merc, Ark or Bist aren't all that common and they're usually heavily trafficed by both alliance players and raiders. _______________________________________________ There is no such thing as too much cynicism
Flame me if you wish, I laugh with scorn at threats...
Beware of geeks bearing gifs
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.05.04 00:54:00 -
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syndicate is the place to go! Wanna fly with me?
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.05.04 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri syndicate is the place to go!
Yeah, syndicate is the best 0.0 region. Its got great npc's, awesome ore and its pirate free!
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.05.04 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Selim Darken, I think you'll find that you and Mortuus brought me and JF up in this conversation - I didn't start it. And honestly, you're the one with that is obsessed with jericho. Turning this thread into a popularity contest is stupid, the guy wanted to know what makes people in 0.0 tick and I told him how it is, you have to kill or be killed.
When you make sweeping generalisations about everyone else in 0.0 other than your lot, what do you expect? I'll agree that all alliance are l337 d00dz if you agree you are a retard for making that generalisation.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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spiritfa11
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Posted - 2005.05.04 04:03:00 -
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I live and die daily defending my little corner of space. Ill be damned if anyone is going to use it but my alliances mates or myself. ---------------------
I'd like to do your sig. You may contact me in-game |

Katamarino
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Posted - 2005.05.04 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Originally by: Nafri syndicate is the place to go!
Yeah, syndicate is the best 0.0 region. Its got great npc's, awesome ore and its pirate free!
Yup! And there are NO prepubescent mindless gankers in PF-346, EVER! 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.05.04 15:08:00 -
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Why does everyone say sociopath like its a bad thing? I dont understand how this game is fun for anyone if you dont get to ruin someones day by blowing up their shiny new ships. |
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