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Placatio
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:08:00 -
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I've now been in four parts of space and ganked in 3/5 missions into 0.0 space. Do you have to be a sociopath? Stain and Imperium have both ganked me. All I tried to do was talk and they wouldn't even communicate their policy. The second of the five missions was in Stain space where one of them said, "Leave, you're making my friend nervous". I did.
THIS is the point? After about a year, I have two accounts and 1.5 or so billion isk. I just want to friggin see what's out there.
Who will allow me to look around (even escorted)?
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:14:00 -
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lol BMs ? you using instas out there - that slows those pesky stain guys down (lol no offense to stain etc)
That said once you get past the gate camps - keep moving around sure theres stuff out there you need to be a) careful b) find a planet and log off at sign of any trouble c) all else fails join their alliances. d) post on this forum where they are hiding and encourage the bounty hunter corps to deal with em - they are always looking for a kill.
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Placatio
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:18:00 -
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If the only way is instajumps and logoffs, then I quit already.
So sociopath or cheater is it?
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:19:00 -
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I enjoy that you equate any play style that deviates from your own with sociopathy. You are why hurting carebears is so funny and cool.
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Placatio
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:23:00 -
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I'm merely asking how I get into it.
I've gone into 0.0 and asked calmly and even defenselessly at a gate and just been shot.
That's cool and fun for you?
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Placatio
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:23:00 -
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And are you saying that logging and instajumps are somehow less Care-bear-ee?
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:24:00 -
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as CCP says "the tools are there make use of em" hence instajumps and logoffs are there for the carebear and those not wanting to get ganked hence if it is in the game it is ok to use it. Lol if you just want to PVP well build a corp of bounty hunters and PVP players get out to the gate camps and blow up some of those nasty 0.0 types lol.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:25:00 -
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hint now take a target painter
does more damage.
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hyundra04
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: hyundra04 on 03/05/2005 04:36:48
I promise you, it aint that exciting in 0.0. there are madmen out there and there are some good guys too. i wouldnt shoot you just cos you are there for example. ( but i am rare ) why not join up with a 0.0 corp and see for yourself. you will find though that you have to follow those that camp gates and shoot first, ask questions later type of people. it is just the way it is out there.
oh i dont shoot first, but will always shoot if shot at...
And also you can buy passes to explore some parts of 0.0. but you cant do stuff like mine on these passes. with a pass all the allies of that corp that gave you a pass will leave you alone. and if one kills ya the ceo of the corp will reimberse you usualy... convo if ya want to give it a go ill ask for ya 
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Placatio
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:36:00 -
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Well, an Alt telling me to cheat, some guy making fun of me and now some advice. I appreciate it. Any more?
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hyundra04
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: hyundra04 on 03/05/2005 04:37:40
lol
i updated the last one
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:37:00 -
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Since when is 0.0 an verb/action?
"Hey man, I'm going to go do some 0.0ing today, wanna come?"
Anyway, stain and imperium (and indeed, all the territorial alliances) are composed primarily of 1337 d00dz that don't even think before shooting, your best bet is to do the same back. They arent gonna be chivalrous about it because that isnt their character. It would be more interesting if they were but its not.
If you want to see what is in 0.0, just look at niyabainen, and then remove all the ravens and stations. There's nothing interesting to see, nothing overly interesting to do.
But for clarification, not all pvpers are sociopaths, but most sociopaths are pvpers.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:38:00 -
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Edited by: ollobrains on 03/05/2005 04:39:44
For the record this is my only character in the game lol i am not an alt - CCP can check up and confirm that lol
Just basic advice instas and logoff are in the game are not considered exploits so use em wherever you are threatened - this goes to all players. Until they are actually changed use em to the max and annoy those pesky gatecampers.
Edit : if you want to do some ratting out there you get bigger spawns etc more often and more chance of rare item and faction loot drops - problem is getting it out - hint do several trips and drop some sec anchor cans with ammo etc.
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hyundra04
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:41:00 -
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Well logoffs couldnt be changed could they?
( just a thought  )
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Placatio
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:44:00 -
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Hyundra04, I tried, you aren't playing right now :) Just kidding and thanks for the help.
Ollo, my apologies. I didn't see race/corp info so I assumed incorrectly. I still think your suggested tactics undermine the wellbeing of the game. Why I care, I can't tell you. I'm just that way in MMOG's.
Selim, I am close to joining the anti-space. The rest seem intent to be tough over being social.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Placatio
I've now been in four parts of space and ganked in 3/5 missions into 0.0 space. Do you have to be a sociopath? Stain and Imperium have both ganked me. All I tried to do was talk and they wouldn't even communicate their policy. The second of the five missions was in Stain space where one of them said, "Leave, you're making my friend nervous". I did.
THIS is the point? After about a year, I have two accounts and 1.5 or so billion isk. I just want to friggin see what's out there.
Who will allow me to look around (even escorted)?
There is nothing there that you haven't seen already.
But if you're really curious, just get yourself an interceptor and fly in.
Oh and, give that billion to me, would you? 
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:46:00 -
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thats ok guys just a few posters have accused me in recent weeks of being an alt and just getting a bit annoyed over it.
That said until these things are fixed (im all for log off and instas being fixed) then you may as well use em if being ganked in 0.0 space is becoming an issue - the tools are there why not use em - despite it being annoying.
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hyundra04
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:48:00 -
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These guys are right. there is little to see. 0.0 is for rare ore and killing rats for good bounties. oh and the stuff they drop.
( was on line but got kicked for some reason while reading this. am on now)
still. give it a go you been on ages so your skills should be quite good and any 0.0 corp would be foolosh to turn you down.
happy playing.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:48:00 -
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There is almost no chance of unwillingly dying in 0.0 in an interceptor.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.05.03 04:56:00 -
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as u said yuo have 1.5B henceforth if you head out there and find a nice moon when ready to stop playing log off - when you wake up etc log back on - just float around out there until youve killed enough rats, got enough special loot or whatever then try to fly back.
Other option is join a 0.0 corp or alliance - with such a long time playing those alliances and corps are always looking for new members esp if you can make a valid contribution, act as a pick up truck once a week with empire goods. (if you aint into PVP) - otherwise join a PVP corp in the low sec systems - there are a few that like to hit gate campers at the choke points - keeps those deep corps from getting too complaceant.
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Placatio
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Posted - 2005.05.03 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Vex Seraphim
There is almost no chance of unwillingly dying in 0.0 in an interceptor.
Then CCP needs to hammer the interceptor :)
Let me ask you guys a more direct question. Which is more true: a) there is no good reason to go 0.0, or b) you have to be a carebear not to be in 0.0
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hyundra04
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Posted - 2005.05.03 05:09:00 -
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lol
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.05.03 05:10:00 -
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Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 03/05/2005 05:10:31
c) You have to be really bored and/or curious to go to 0.0
c.5) for your god's sake, don't be afraid to die
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.05.03 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I enjoy that you equate any play style that deviates from your own with sociopathy. You are why hurting carebears is so funny and cool.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.05.03 05:32:00 -
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the real question is, why would you even want to come to 0.0 if not to pvp? Theres certainly no other reason to be here at the moment. It used to be that everyone in an empire corp would dream of getting to 0.0, of the uber ore, the uber npcing, etc. Now, you have people in 0.0 dreaming of having the standings to do lvl 4s safely in empire.
If you wanna pvp, get together some people in your corp, put em in BS, look and find a chokepoint where there isnt a huge blob/lots killed in last hour, and fight whoever is there.
If you dont wanna pvp... keep doing missions. I'm sure that big fat wallet is making you feel uber.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.05.03 05:46:00 -
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Ok, first of all there is nothing special to "see" in 0.0
The main reason you should go there is to fight other people
The most important advice: don't try to solo. Team work is very important in stuff like this.
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Harakiri
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Posted - 2005.05.03 06:00:00 -
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Yep Im a sociopath ... wait! uhm!
Basically all 0.0 space is claimed by one or several alliances , they kill everyone who isnt their friends. You better make friends with the alliances before going there , some even sell hunting passes.
Even then you cant be sure cause cause most of the alliances have enemies roaming around looking for cheap ganks.
Sure you can go there but be prepared to be killed anytime.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.05.03 06:25:00 -
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And they all ***** on why not enough people come to 0.0 
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Nicholai Pestot
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Posted - 2005.05.03 06:29:00 -
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With the number of alt scouts and spies, the alliances are forced to adopt a 'if it aint blue, shoot it' policy.
Sure, you can convo them, and ask them to escort you around, but so can an alt spy.
It is normally quite obvious where an alliances borders are (there is a territorial map in these forums, and many alliances anchor cans with 'this is our space' on them).
If you cross these, THEN ask for permission to be there, you are simply going to be destroyed. I would suggest in future you ask ahead of time so that the command of whatever alliance you are talking to has a chance to make a ruling on your behalf.
If you really are just mission running and can prove without resonable doubt that you are not an alt, some groups will provide you with a pass.
As to whats out in 0.0?
Simple. Total freedom.Without barrier or limit other than what you are strong enough to do.
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2005.05.03 06:37:00 -
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If you are really that interested I would suggest contacting the alliances official reps. For the PA you can find all that info on our lovely website.
www.newvenal.org
Other than that just fly a frigate, its not hard to dodge around alliances much and thats why we adopt the "if its not blue shoot it", taking time to check and talk could be the difference between spies/pirates/whoever entering your space.
And ignore Selim, JF are nothing more than anarchist vagabonds.
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