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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2005.05.04 22:43:00 -
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Higher sub fees? I personally would, but that isn't necessary. In EVE we have risk vs. reward...in r/l it is cost/return. If CCP sees the return as higher numbers of subscriptions to OFFSET the client development, they'll do it...eventually.
If it was an issue of real high cost, there wouldn't be native ports of Doom3 and Unreal...the fact is that in a distributed environment (which EVE is) there is no need to change the server side, merely the client. This isn't a huge deal, but it does require manpower to accomplish.
The porting itself in the scheme of development is inconsequential compared to a complete rewrite or creation of a new game. Linux used to have a company that did the porting....they had a very bad biz model and fell apart.
To have religious arguments over "to port or not to port" does noone any good, and for those of us on the linux/mac side, we need to show support for a port without screaming at the wintel side everytime we're poo-poo'd. Ignoring the 'too bad fer yu' posts is our best strategy. Signing the petitions requesting the port, and voicing a desire for it yes....whinging about it does nothing good.
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2005.05.05 03:18:00 -
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I remember from one of the times this topic was brought up, one person mentioned a quite valid point.
Argument for porting EVE to Mac/Linux/whatev:
It would increase the playerbase massively, much more income.
To write a post on these boards, you must have an account. Assuming you're not using a trial account to post with, this means you're already a paying customer. If you're already paying for an account (which you play, presumably on a Windows machine), how exactly does that change your 'value' to CCP? If you're playing the game under Linux, OS X or Windows 2k/XP is the same. One account anyway.
While I thnik it could be an interesting project, I'd venture a wild shot here, and say that with the current state of things, I'd think CCP were busy enough keeping the client stabile and running for just one platform.
Supporting it on both Linux, OS X and whatnot could lead to a practical nightmare. Imagine a new patch coming out, which crashes 2 out of 5 different OS'es it runs on. What to do then?
etc etc.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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Fuse
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Posted - 2005.05.05 09:26:00 -
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We need a sticky on this board. It is not practical to port all of eve's code to mac and linux. It was not planned to be for multiple OS from the begining.I love Linux and find Macs annoying. Why doesn't anyone ask for a port for the Comadore 64? 
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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2005.05.05 09:49:00 -
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Without getting into a war here, Fuse...practical? If it makes CCP a PROFIT, then it would be practical. If not then its not. As to the practicality of supporting multiple platforms, its not as difficult as some posting here think or realize.
Remember, our hopes were lifted when the lead DEV FROM CCP brought the subject up. If it was/is SO impractical why oh why would CCP bring it up in the first place hmmmm?
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.05.05 15:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Guardian Alpha
Selfish.
I'm selfish and proud of it - always have been.
I think my current sig (Nietzsche) sums up nicely why 'unselfishness' is a bad idea 
Let's all be more selfish and stop the 'politically correct' madness that is ruining our lives.
Have a nice day, should you choose to do so... 
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 05/05/2005 16:02:33
Originally by: Joe
do mac's still only have 1 mouse button?
you dont have to use a 1 button mouse, u can use any pc usb mouse, i use a 4 button + mousewheel mouse on my mac at work.
EvE for the mac would rock it'll mean i could play eve at work without having to bring my laptop in 
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Sathanis LeFleur
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:04:00 -
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If memory serves correctly.. OSX run WinDoze XP within a shell in its OS. Hence you could run Eve.. on Windows XP.. on a MAC.. ye gods the insanity
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sathanis LeFleur
If memory serves correctly.. OSX run WinDoze XP within a shell in its OS. Hence you could run Eve.. on Windows XP.. on a MAC.. ye gods the insanity
You can run XP, but its DirectX that gives you the problem.
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
I'm selfish and proud of it - always have been.
I think my current sig (Nietzsche) sums up nicely why 'unselfishness' is a bad idea
Let's all be more selfish and stop the 'politically correct' madness that is ruining our lives.
First off, any student of Nieztzche knows that he was also fully aware that selfishness was a downfall to society as a whole if followed by each and every person. He made this evident when he said that others should not follow in his path of thought but find their own. Agree with him all you want, but his teachings still state that if the entire world became selfish mankind would cease to function on a primary racial trait: survival.
Secondly, drop the 'politically correctness' canned responce and accept that some people honestly are out to do the world some good rather than bad. Don't kid yourself into thinking the world is useless, or else you've gone completely against what Nieztzche taught in the sense of NOT following how he believes.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.05.05 18:52:00 -
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Getting only slightly off-topic here, don't you think?
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.05.05 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
Edited by: Guardian Alpha on 04/05/2005 05:21:35
It's also the downfall of Germany during the second World War and egoism was the principle behind the Na zi party.
And here I thought it was the allied forces kicking the crap out of them. So glad to hear they fell apart reguardless of outsides influlances.
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Little Buddha
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Posted - 2005.05.05 19:06:00 -
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Hey, i didn't expect to start a war... 
I wouldn't want to interrupt the flamefest/philosophical discussion going on here, I just thought it would be a good idea, and was wondering if more people would/could be interested.
Plus isn't a lot of porting done actually by outside companies? Which would mean less diversion of our devs precious time. Forgive me if I am completely wrong there, I will admit my ignorance as to how those conversions work.
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2005.05.05 19:08:00 -
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And here I thought it was the allied forces kicking the crap out of them. So glad to hear they fell apart reguardless of outsides influlances.
Don't give me that eyerollingrofl crap, you know exactally what I am talking about. The selfishness of the empire is what caused their expansion to move too far too fast and thus begin to include other countries that would otherwise not have intervined for a few more years.
I'm speaking about the demoralization of that empire internally and on a social level rather than on warfare. The "first pitch" that led to the destruction of it by allied forces.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.05.05 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Winterblink on 05/05/2005 19:08:02
Originally by: Little Buddha
Plus isn't a lot of porting done actually by outside companies? Which would mean less diversion of our devs precious time. Forgive me if I am completely wrong there, I will admit my ignorance as to how those conversions work.
Yeah, like that wonderful X-Box to PC Halo port that was released...
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