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Little Buddha	Posted - 2005.05.03 22:01:00 - [1] For a very long time, I was a PC-only kind of person... Then I discovered Macs... Now I only use my PC for games... And more and more, I only turn it up to play Eve... So... Any chances of Eve running under Os X? Or am I the only one interested?
Chucky	Posted - 2005.05.03 22:09:00 - [2] There was a thread on this not to long ago, I think the consenses was no Anyone know the search engine link? ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Joe	Posted - 2005.05.03 22:11:00 - [3] do mac's still only have 1 mouse button? Taranis WholeSale Deals.
Woopie	Posted - 2005.05.03 22:11:00 - [4] You're not the only one, but unfortunately CCP decided to couple EVE tightly with the Direct X suit, that along with other things. So .. It is unlikely that it will be ported (near future at least). There is some dev blog on this subject though, don't remember what it says. And no you can NOT run it through any type of emulation, depite what some less enlightened people may think. on the mac, works for linux (on x86 only) Sowy -Woopie
Mr Popov	Posted - 2005.05.03 22:14:00 - [5] yep, and no mouse wheel
Chucky	Posted - 2005.05.03 22:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Joe do mac's still only have 1 mouse button? I think so, pity too ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Nagarutu Mishima	Posted - 2005.05.03 23:34:00 - [7] Im happy to inform that you can without problem use a standard usb mouse, with two buttons and a wheel on a macintosh machine without any problems. Accually i use it myself, i feel that it have the right amount of buttons if they someday convert eve to mac.. (i want to kill you with my apple machine)
Puncher	Posted - 2005.05.04 00:00:00 - [8] OS Porting Dev Blog Eve on Virtual PC? \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 285522
Mirirar	Posted - 2005.05.04 00:05:00 - [9] Please god no. I'd much prefer to see development resources spent on additional game content and more PC client improvements. To not spend money on that would be crazy, and they know that. :)
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.05.04 00:51:00 - [10] Originally by: Little Buddha Any chances of Eve running under Os X? Or am I the only one interested? You really must be new to MAC.
Taize	Posted - 2005.05.04 01:09:00 - [11] i once saw a d00d in 0.0 who had his Mac specs in his bio and it also said he was running eve on it...maybe he was lying but maybe he was doing something right...Emulation most likely but i dont remember tbh...
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.04 05:06:00 - [12] Quote: Please god no. I'd much prefer to see development resources spent on additional game content and more PC client improvements. I hate selfish players. Because this is what it translates into: Quote: NO! I don't want my money being used to make other players happy. You should only focus on the extra cool features I want and not what other players want. I matter, they don't. Far far too many of us want a Linux port for you to dare act selfish about wasted costs. ------------
Sadist	Posted - 2005.05.04 05:14:00 - [13] Quote: NO! I don't want my money being used to make other players happy. You should only focus on the extra cool features I want and not what other players want. I matter, they don't. Thats exactly the way all people think, and there's nothing wrong with it. Its called 'egoism' btw. _______________________________________________
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.04 05:20:00 - [14] Edited by: Guardian Alpha on 04/05/2005 05:21:35 It's also the downfall of Germany during the second World War and egoism was the principle behind the Na zi party. Drop the canned responce. Selfishness and egoism are destructive and unforgiving when used together. People forget that they are not the only ones playing this game, and that other Operating systems are in GREAT use besides their own. ------------
Sybylle	Posted - 2005.05.04 07:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Guardian Alpha Edited by: Guardian Alpha on 04/05/2005 05:21:35 It's also the downfall of Germany during the second World War and egoism was the principle behind the Na zi party. I don't think this has anything to do with the game...Or any operating system. (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.04 07:32:00 - [16] Quote: I don't think this has anything to do with the game...Or any operating system. Then you failed to read the entire thread, and why the one line you quoted from me fit into the rest of the thread. You get an F for the day. ------------
Sybylle	Posted - 2005.05.04 07:59:00 - [17] Originally by: Guardian Alpha Quote: I don't think this has anything to do with the game...Or any operating system. Then you failed to read the entire thread, and why the one line you quoted from me fit into the rest of the thread. You get an F for the day. Receiving a F from you honors me. Combat : Your sentence missed Guardian Alpha's brain as the target no longer exists. (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Jakk Graiseach	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:05:00 - [18] Originally by: Guardian Alpha Far far too many of us want a Linux port for you to dare act selfish about wasted costs. I don't see that ever happening and it really would be a waste of resources. I like Linux (I run SuSE) and I like the fact that Little Bill doesn't own it but, unlike on alt.linux.advocacy, I can be realistic and see what a small proportion of the online gaming players run Linux. The figures are against it, no matter how vocal the Linux Gaming Minority may want to get about it. There's always the virtual machine or WINE routes... -- All accounts cancelled - have fun guys
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:12:00 - [19] Virtual Machine won't cut it, and you know that. WINE also doesn't emulate it properly, and CCP won't work with the Cedega team on improving it. Quote: I can be realistic and see what a small proportion of the online gaming players run Linux. Realistic? There are over 2,000 signatures on a Cedega petition alone for a Linux port. Small minority of gamers is completely correct, but a good chunk of EVE players are primary Linux users. This isn't about advocacy, it's about people not giving the reason "omfg im so00 selfish" when it comes to a seperate group of EVE supporters and players. ------------
Epictetus	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:23:00 - [20] I would also be very interested in a Mac port.
KazTraZ	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:43:00 - [21] If any of u want to get it ported then plz sign the petition: Here :) ps i Bought me self Virtual PC 7 and it¦s a no no it wont run! and i have a new PowerBook "17 1gb Ram so i¦m sorry but i think the Virtual PC thingy is not going to work. and another i have personaly contacted Aspyr.com who are experts in porting PC (Direc X) games over to Mac (OpenGL) and well i¦m stil waiting for a good responce but they have said that it¦s no immpossible :) Sign and let¦s help the Mac user¦s come aboard our grate spaceship! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/eve2106/petition.html
Sevarus James	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:46:00 - [22] I'd like to see a linux AND a mac port. I've signed the cedega petition as well. I'd like to run the ONLY game I really play under the OS I prefer to use...until then, wintendo gets booted just for eve. The rest of the house is safely under Ubuntu. :) (linux version I use for non-initiates.)
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:50:00 - [23] I can see the Windows fans now: "ANOTHER thread about this! Drop it already! It isn't going to happen!" And they would be correct, this is another thread about users wanting ports to other operating systems and NOT improvement after improvement for a client that already works very well. But they would be incorrect in telling us to drop it. You will see this topic happen again, and again, and again until CCP makes a native mac/linux port or at least WORKS WITH Cedega to get it running at least 90% of the native speed. The primary windows users may be tired of seeing this and wondering why oh why does this happen so often? It happens because more and more players of EVE are linux users/mac users, and are stepping up out of the crowd to ask for a native client. Lock this thread, and more will take it's place in the future. In the end, no matter how much the Windows users elfishly whine, no matter how many times the threads like this get flamed because it's an "old topic".... the amount of people asking for a Linux/Mac client will continue to grow and grow. ------------
Sevarus James	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:56:00 - [24] Its not a matter of us linux users crying into the wind. Hellmar actually asked late last year about porting. There are those who blindly worship one OS or another. I don't. I prefer Linux for many reasons, some of which are pocket book related (no money for os, no money for antivirus, no worries about spam, better email, etc., etc.), but I use what gets the job done. From an economic angle, supporting mac/linux/windows makes sense as you broaden your player base. There are windows users who use the excuse "fix the problems", but in an MMO, that is a moving target and a completely USELESS argument. An MMO will ALWAYS be changing. If the developers have the wherewithal and the time, we'll see a port eventually. If they don't have, we won't. All we can do is voice our desire and let the chips fall where they may. Hopefully they fall our way, as our devs are linux unix fans as well.....hell they use python to code.
Aodha Khan	Posted - 2005.05.04 10:11:00 - [25] You made your choice, good points and bad. Live with it. CCP would be wasting their time on this. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Shidhe	Posted - 2005.05.04 10:32:00 - [26] After spending a long time sorting out a desktop (it still isnt completely done) after security problems, it would be very nice to see a Mac port - but it isnt going to happen till there is a major graphics rewrite - and when CCP can justify that is anybodys guess. For anybody writing a similar game from scratch now, the sensible thing would be to go for open standards, but the software industry has always had to deal with programs written some time ago, and adapt to them...
fuze	Posted - 2005.05.04 18:23:00 - [27] If CCP would make a port to Mac would you pay a higher subscription fee? Will take time and hence will take money to develop a client for another OS. If they had written the game in OpenGL instead of DirectX it would have been much easier I guess. ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts!
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.05.04 18:26:00 - [28] Originally by: fuze If CCP would make a port to Mac would you pay a higher subscription fee? Will take time and hence will take money to develop a client for another OS. If they had written the game in OpenGL instead of DirectX it would have been much easier I guess. You guess correctly. But they didn't, so we don't have one. Oh well, it's not the end of the world. ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.04 18:48:00 - [29] Quote: You guess correctly. But they didn't, so we don't have one. Oh well, it's not the end of the world. -slap- Don't you know anything about DirectX and OpenGL programming? Far too many good games (Doom 3, Half Life, Quake, Vendetta) have DirectX as their primary means of graphical processing, and insert OpenGL as a secondary attribute later on for ports to Mac and Linux, rather than replacing DX. This is not something difficult (I've done it on quite a few low-key games) and is only moreso needing the willpower to actually get it done. Porting is done very often, but the reason holding most devs back is that the fan-base they have refuses to have their money spent on anything else but improving upon their own lives. Selfish. ------------
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.05.04 19:31:00 - [30] Originally by: Guardian Alpha Quote: You guess correctly. But they didn't, so we don't have one. Oh well, it's not the end of the world. Don't you know anything about DirectX and OpenGL programming? Far too many good games (Doom 3, Half Life, Quake, Vendetta) have DirectX as their primary means of graphical processing, and insert OpenGL as a secondary attribute later on for ports to Mac and Linux, rather than replacing DX. This is not something difficult (I've done it on quite a few low-key games) and is only moreso needing the willpower to actually get it done. Porting is done very often, but the reason holding most devs back is that the fan-base they have refuses to have their money spent on anything else but improving upon their own lives. Where in my post did I insinuate I knew anything about game development? I made a statement of fact which you've taken, downed three shots of tequila, and ran with. That being said, it's all a matter of perspective. From the developer's perspective, it's within their best interest to stabilize a game on one platform instead of having to support it on two. Imagine if you will that we had an OS X version for the last year, and upgrading to 10.4 last friday breaks it for a large percentage of players in a case they didn't test for. Suddenly development effort must be spent on restabilizing a game client on one platform, taking away from ongoing enhancements to the game as a whole. Admittedly this is just speculation, as I have no internal knowledge of the inner workings of CCP's development strategies. In no way did I state that this was impossible, but it's obvious choices have been made at some level which eventually landed a Windows-only client in our laps. ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
Sevarus James	Posted - 2005.05.04 22:43:00 - [31] Higher sub fees? I personally would, but that isn't necessary. In EVE we have risk vs. reward...in r/l it is cost/return. If CCP sees the return as higher numbers of subscriptions to OFFSET the client development, they'll do it...eventually. If it was an issue of real high cost, there wouldn't be native ports of Doom3 and Unreal...the fact is that in a distributed environment (which EVE is) there is no need to change the server side, merely the client. This isn't a huge deal, but it does require manpower to accomplish. The porting itself in the scheme of development is inconsequential compared to a complete rewrite or creation of a new game. Linux used to have a company that did the porting....they had a very bad biz model and fell apart. To have religious arguments over "to port or not to port" does noone any good, and for those of us on the linux/mac side, we need to show support for a port without screaming at the wintel side everytime we're poo-poo'd. Ignoring the 'too bad fer yu' posts is our best strategy. Signing the petitions requesting the port, and voicing a desire for it yes....whinging about it does nothing good.
Clipped Wings	Posted - 2005.05.05 03:18:00 - [32] I remember from one of the times this topic was brought up, one person mentioned a quite valid point. Argument for porting EVE to Mac/Linux/whatev: It would increase the playerbase massively, much more income. To write a post on these boards, you must have an account. Assuming you're not using a trial account to post with, this means you're already a paying customer. If you're already paying for an account (which you play, presumably on a Windows machine), how exactly does that change your 'value' to CCP? If you're playing the game under Linux, OS X or Windows 2k/XP is the same. One account anyway. While I thnik it could be an interesting project, I'd venture a wild shot here, and say that with the current state of things, I'd think CCP were busy enough keeping the client stabile and running for just one platform. Supporting it on both Linux, OS X and whatnot could lead to a practical nightmare. Imagine a new patch coming out, which crashes 2 out of 5 different OS'es it runs on. What to do then? etc etc. -Clipped Wings of LFC "I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man." ~William Hazlitt
Fuse	Posted - 2005.05.05 09:26:00 - [33] We need a sticky on this board. It is not practical to port all of eve's code to mac and linux. It was not planned to be for multiple OS from the begining.I love Linux and find Macs annoying. Why doesn't anyone ask for a port for the Comadore 64? 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you.
Sevarus James	Posted - 2005.05.05 09:49:00 - [34] Without getting into a war here, Fuse...practical? If it makes CCP a PROFIT, then it would be practical. If not then its not. As to the practicality of supporting multiple platforms, its not as difficult as some posting here think or realize. Remember, our hopes were lifted when the lead DEV FROM CCP brought the subject up. If it was/is SO impractical why oh why would CCP bring it up in the first place hmmmm?
Jakk Graiseach	Posted - 2005.05.05 15:53:00 - [35] Originally by: Guardian Alpha Selfish. I'm selfish and proud of it - always have been. I think my current sig (Nietzsche) sums up nicely why 'unselfishness' is a bad idea Let's all be more selfish and stop the 'politically correct' madness that is ruining our lives. Have a nice day, should you choose to do so... -- All accounts cancelled - have fun guys
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.05.05 16:02:00 - [36] Edited by: Sun Ra on 05/05/2005 16:02:33 Originally by: Joe do mac's still only have 1 mouse button? you dont have to use a 1 button mouse, u can use any pc usb mouse, i use a 4 button + mousewheel mouse on my mac at work. EvE for the mac would rock it'll mean i could play eve at work without having to bring my laptop in
Sathanis LeFleur	Posted - 2005.05.05 16:04:00 - [37] If memory serves correctly.. OSX run WinDoze XP within a shell in its OS. Hence you could run Eve.. on Windows XP.. on a MAC.. ye gods the insanity
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.05.05 16:18:00 - [38] Originally by: Sathanis LeFleur If memory serves correctly.. OSX run WinDoze XP within a shell in its OS. Hence you could run Eve.. on Windows XP.. on a MAC.. ye gods the insanity You can run XP, but its DirectX that gives you the problem.
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.05 16:25:00 - [39] Originally by: Jakk Graiseach I'm selfish and proud of it - always have been. I think my current sig (Nietzsche) sums up nicely why 'unselfishness' is a bad idea Let's all be more selfish and stop the 'politically correct' madness that is ruining our lives. First off, any student of Nieztzche knows that he was also fully aware that selfishness was a downfall to society as a whole if followed by each and every person. He made this evident when he said that others should not follow in his path of thought but find their own. Agree with him all you want, but his teachings still state that if the entire world became selfish mankind would cease to function on a primary racial trait: survival. Secondly, drop the 'politically correctness' canned responce and accept that some people honestly are out to do the world some good rather than bad. Don't kid yourself into thinking the world is useless, or else you've gone completely against what Nieztzche taught in the sense of NOT following how he believes. ------------
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.05.05 18:52:00 - [40] Getting only slightly off-topic here, don't you think? ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
Chucky	Posted - 2005.05.05 19:04:00 - [41] Originally by: Guardian Alpha Edited by: Guardian Alpha on 04/05/2005 05:21:35 It's also the downfall of Germany during the second World War and egoism was the principle behind the Na zi party. And here I thought it was the allied forces kicking the crap out of them. So glad to hear they fell apart reguardless of outsides influlances. ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Little Buddha	Posted - 2005.05.05 19:06:00 - [42] Hey, i didn't expect to start a war... I wouldn't want to interrupt the flamefest/philosophical discussion going on here, I just thought it would be a good idea, and was wondering if more people would/could be interested. Plus isn't a lot of porting done actually by outside companies? Which would mean less diversion of our devs precious time. Forgive me if I am completely wrong there, I will admit my ignorance as to how those conversions work.
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2005.05.05 19:08:00 - [43] Quote: And here I thought it was the allied forces kicking the crap out of them. So glad to hear they fell apart reguardless of outsides influlances. Don't give me that eyerollingrofl crap, you know exactally what I am talking about. The selfishness of the empire is what caused their expansion to move too far too fast and thus begin to include other countries that would otherwise not have intervined for a few more years. I'm speaking about the demoralization of that empire internally and on a social level rather than on warfare. The "first pitch" that led to the destruction of it by allied forces. ------------
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.05.05 19:08:00 - [44] Edited by: Winterblink on 05/05/2005 19:08:02 Originally by: Little Buddha Plus isn't a lot of porting done actually by outside companies? Which would mean less diversion of our devs precious time. Forgive me if I am completely wrong there, I will admit my ignorance as to how those conversions work. Yeah, like that wonderful X-Box to PC Halo port that was released... ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//

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