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ExChange
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Posted - 2005.05.05 13:21:00 -
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thinking about getting a turreted BS... pro and cons on some please
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.05.05 13:25:00 -
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There is no best, but if you like long range get a tempest or Apoc/Geddon, if you like going down in a hail of close range fire, then get a MegaT and stick neutrons on it.
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ExChange
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Posted - 2005.05.05 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: ExChange on 05/05/2005 13:34:43
Edited by: ExChange on 05/05/2005 13:28:03
i have no problem with ammar... but ive had some bad experience with the rupture...
or should i say lack of...
4 RCUs just to get some 650mm arties on it... its pathetic...
i hope the tempest dosnt have the same prob 8/
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2005.05.05 13:55:00 -
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 Originally by: ExChange
4 RCUs just to get some 650mm arties on it... its pathetic...
i hope the tempest dosnt have the same prob 8/
Tempest can fit the max 1400mm arties with one diagnostic.
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.05.05 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Hunter on 05/05/2005 14:03:47
4 RCU?
omg!
I have following on rupture:
4x 650mm Gallium, 1x Rocket Laucnher with Defenders
1x Web 1x Disruptor 1x Sensor Booster II
3x gyro II, 1x Med Armor Rep II, 1x RCU II
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Bellicose
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Posted - 2005.05.05 14:05:00 -
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Megathron Can fit fullset of 425mm II rails without grid increasements (RCU¦s PDU¦s)
Tempest isent bad choice either fullset 1400mm II¦s with a RCU II and got more cpu leftover than mega after fitting guns and more mids for either tracking stuff or shieldtanking
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.05.05 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bellicose
Megathron Can fit fullset of 425mm II rails without grid increasements (RCU¦s PDU¦s)
Yep, rediculous imo.
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Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.05.05 15:44:00 -
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Apoc with 8 TachyIIs is by far and away the best.
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ElDiablo
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Posted - 2005.05.05 15:45:00 -
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Poster of this thread, you are Gallante. I would do a Megathron. These days its a very nice turreted ship.
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Hellek
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Posted - 2005.05.05 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Hellek on 05/05/2005 15:46:57
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Apoc with 8 TachyIIs is by far and away the best.
yeah and the 3 RCU II you need to fit that are absolutely no drawback
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.05.05 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
Originally by: Bellicose
Megathron Can fit fullset of 425mm II rails without grid increasements (RCU¦s PDU¦s)
Yep, rediculous imo.
not really, even with 7 fitted, with many weapon upgrades, it will still be massacred by a tempest at any range,
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Hellek
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Posted - 2005.05.05 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Originally by: MadGaz
Originally by: Bellicose
Megathron Can fit fullset of 425mm II rails without grid increasements (RCU¦s PDU¦s)
Yep, rediculous imo.
not really, even with 7 fitted, with many weapon upgrades, it will still be massacred by a tempest at any range,
those 7 rails deal more damage than 7 tachyons though, and have more range. and to fit 7 tachyons, you need grid enhancers on an apoc, besides having trouble with the enourmous cap use.
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Ohotnik
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:02:00 -
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ExChange, I had 4 720s on my rupture, get your skills up before wining about one of the best long range cruisers in the game. I have played with Caracal, Maller, Rupture, Moa and nearly any other cruiser (yes, I can fly them all), and Rupture is my favorite.
As for turret BS, I think you should just take your pick between tier (not tech) 2 battleships, depending on what guns you are best with, just use that one. They are all nice birds.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
not really, even with 7 fitted, with many weapon upgrades, it will still be massacred by a tempest at any range,
Disagree, you can out range it. Problem, CCP didn't give us an option to set a custom range warp in (15kms min of course) so the out range trick that rails offer, mean absoulute jack ****.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: X''Alor on 05/05/2005 16:07:06
Originally by: Hellek
Originally by: slothe
Originally by: MadGaz
Originally by: Bellicose
Megathron Can fit fullset of 425mm II rails without grid increasements (RCU¦s PDU¦s)
Yep, rediculous imo.
not really, even with 7 fitted, with many weapon upgrades, it will still be massacred by a tempest at any range,
those 7 rails deal more damage than 7 tachyons though, and have more range. and to fit 7 tachyons, you need grid enhancers on an apoc, besides having trouble with the enourmous cap use.
Bingo. Agreed
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ExChange
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: ExChange on 05/05/2005 16:20:41
Edited by: ExChange on 05/05/2005 16:19:48
Originally by: Ohotnik
ExChange, I had 4 720s on my rupture, get your skills up before wining about one of the best long range cruisers in the game. I have played with Caracal, Maller, Rupture, Moa and nearly any other cruiser (yes, I can fly them all), and Rupture is my favorite
Originally by: ExChange
[EDIT] engineering5/elec5/weapupgrade5
think you should read the whole post b4 answering...
and ive flown all the cruiser in the game aswell... still think the rupture reaks...
Ps. i also think its the ugliest cruiser in the game...
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Ohotnik
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Posted - 2005.05.05 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ohotnik on 05/05/2005 16:29:00
lol, sorry, got all heated up in defence of my favorite :) but realy, you can get 4 720s running on it quite nicely, not to mention 650s. Just do not put heavy missle launchers, they do not mater anyway, by the time missles will get to target, its too late, with good skills, 4 720s and good gyro will tear any level 3 mission ship appart. i just drop in couple rocket launchers for those intercepters and its all good.
Also, i love how Rupture looks like, too many horisontal, car/plane looking ships in Eve, Rupture has that unique pirate look.
HAR HAR :)
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Moridan
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Posted - 2005.05.05 18:26:00 -
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Is it me or is this two threads merged into one, a rupture thread and a BS thread?
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ExChange
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Posted - 2005.05.05 18:31:00 -
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ok lets re-rail it then... havnt seen a single pro-con list yet
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Tragar
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Posted - 2005.05.05 18:56:00 -
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8 1400 II's on a poc will beat any tempest :P
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.05.05 19:03:00 -
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I think geddon's still hold their place as the gank platform of choice if you just want to solo. You can fit a few more damage mods than you can on a Megathron and hence my judgement there. Same with Geddon vs. Tempest.
I assume you have the skills you need without specialization factored in. Also I assume that each platform has a way to warpin at optimal. I think this is the only fair way to compare.
Some caveats and exceptions might be that you might be able to shield tank a little with a tempest vs. a geddon who is best advised to attempt no tank whatsoever..just go pure damage. Personally, I prefer tracking comps in mids as well as a web\scrambler on a tempest.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.05.05 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cummilla
I think geddon's still hold their place as the gank platform of choice if you just want to solo. You can fit a few more damage mods than you can on a Megathron and hence my judgement there. Same with Geddon vs. Tempest.
You don't need a lot of damage mods to mess someone up with blasters, the key problem why a geddon is key choice is becaus their mega pulses hit much further at near blaster damage. So you can sit on the gate, shoot at any hauler or ship that jumps in without having to do what a blaster boat does, and that is actually haul ass over into optimal range.
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Liquid Metal
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Posted - 2005.05.05 19:23:00 -
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i hear 7 425 II's are nice, go megar 
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Deileon
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Posted - 2005.05.05 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ohotnik
Also, i love how Rupture looks like, too many horisontal, car/plane looking ships in Eve, Rupture has that unique pirate look.
HAR HAR :)
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mavskji
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Posted - 2005.05.06 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: mavskji on 06/05/2005 01:07:44
I spy an ebil pie-rat called Liquid Metal, harhar. 
If you want to be sexy get a megathron, otherwise, get something else. 
I have to admit I am partial to a nice gankageddon tho. 
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Shultz
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Posted - 2005.05.06 02:30:00 -
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Pros and cons on emm ehh...
I'm not pro with the minmatar battleships and amarr but i'll try my best :-/
Megathron Railguns, which idk what anyone says, it's a very good gun :-D, maybe not the most damaging, but the RoF makes up for it a bit. But i personally believe the Megathrons Pro is the Blasters, when you get in range with those Neutrons, theres going to be hell to pay for your target, but the Con, is with a Neutron Blaster with Anti, you need to be 5km away. But back to the railguns, they are excellent in a snipersetup, maybe not the best compaired to the Tempest (i'm going to get flamed, i knowz it) but still very good. Also (i think it's a advantage, and a resion why i fly Gal :-D) is the damage type. Kinetic and Thermal(decent to shields, better against armor, and thermal, decent to armor, better to shields.)Oh, and there Drone bays.. Can't forget those, enough to hurt a battleship with heavy drones, or scare off a intercepter with those lights :-D.
Amarr... all i have to say, is the Apoc kinda gives me a second thought about going up against, due to its incredable Armor Tank.I believe it's one of the, if not best tanking BS in the game (someone can say different i guess.) and the best damage to the Shields with it's EMP and Thermal damage. But that also creates a Con, because the damage of the Apoc tends to slow down when it hits its targets armor (Thermal and EMP damage type...) there may be other cons and pros... someone else can fill you in. :-D
Tempest Two Pros come to mind when i think of this ship. Its ability to somewhat Shield tank, witha Deadly sniper setup. And it's Damage Types, they (like the Raven and scorp) have the ability to use all the damage Types. They also have a Superb Close range with those auto Cannons. A Con on the Tempest is its Tracking while using Projectiles... i hear they improved them, but i still hear about them being very bad (they are projectiles tho..) and another con. (which i'll prolly be flamed about) Is i also hear that it's a bit hard to fit, and you tend to have t use 1200's in your sniper setup if you don't have the correct skills high enough. (and 1200 aren't ideal for Sniping, as much as the 1400's are :-D)
Well, i'm sure i have left out a few things, don't want to give out every detail to you, but you also have to think to yourself a bit, what playstyle appeals to you?
I hope this helps some... and GL 
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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2005.05.06 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 06/05/2005 06:31:52
Originally by: slothe
Originally by: MadGaz
not really, even with 7 fitted, with many weapon upgrades, it will still be massacred by a tempest at any range,
Speak for yourself buddy.
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.05.06 07:44:00 -
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why does everyone go for range?? its so lame... 
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Shultz
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Posted - 2005.05.06 07:58:00 -
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Because it seems to **** you off :-D, jk.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.05.06 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
why does everyone go for range?? its so lame...
cuz its safe
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