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Yugo Reventlov
Keeping Up Appearances
Happy Cartel
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:37:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:... I thought that was simply cleaning up the silliness of needing, say, remote armor repair I explicitly when it's needed to V for the capital skill
This. And I suppose many others with me. |
Gallimattias
MORE HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:37:00 -
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If the 5min Siege cycle on dreads wasn't enough to complete the extinction of the Triage carrier, CCP comes in with the Coup de grace in the form of a "footnote" to complete the task. It's bad enough you guys have to finger-**** everything for the sake of being relevant in your position of employment; but not being forthcoming on this prior to the patch is pathetic.
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger
Ev0ke
465
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:37:00 -
[33] - Quote
does this include the slave set ? please please please !
I poured their blood in my furys devouring flame |
Ingen Kerr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:39:00 -
[34] - Quote
So Talismans and Energy Emissions implants no longer have any effect on CETAs? Can I get a refund?
Edit: Also, I'm fairly sure you're wrong about gang links affecting capital modules before this change. I've run plenty of rep ops, some with vulture boosts, some without, and I've watched my reps cycle quicker when I stick the Vulture into Fleet. And I've also seen ops where a chimera fits a cycle link but not the cap use link and all our triage carriers cap out. So clearly, they did have an effect. |
Cataire
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:42:00 -
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You cannot activate your Stealth Nerf Drive, As you are being persued by angry Capsuleiers. Please dont dodge any more questions.
Why, I was going to train armor next.... This just makes me want to do something else now. |
Strathcaron
Tormentum Insomniae
Raiden.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:43:00 -
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I have to confirm about capital shield transporters got the siege warfare links and mindlink on their stats and worked fine last years. Vulture and mindlink affected the repair cycle and this dev dont know what he is talking about
We used them with bonus tengu/vulture and i dont know what is more pathetic: removing it, or a devel who dont know about the game trying to ask questions.
CCP, after 9 years, you didnt learned anything about how to implement a new patch without pissing off a big number of players with unexpected stuff. |
Tetania
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:43:00 -
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[quote=CCP Fozzie]What you are describing is a side effect of the change:
Quote:In this case the gang links had previously been affecting Capital Remote Armor Repair Systems but not Capital Shield Transporters. This change brought the armor reps in line with the shield variants.
As others have mentioned this isn't true siege links worked on cap shield transports just fine. As used in PL + goon cap fleets as far back as Delve 1 which you were in sir.
Now on the other hand if you wanted to remove gang link benefits from caps and replace them with some new capital gang link module that only racial Titans can fit that would be different and possibly interesting. |
Royal Jedi
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
78
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:43:00 -
[38] - Quote
CCP being deliberately evasive an unclear. Who woulda thunk it?!? |
doombreed52
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
57
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:45:00 -
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sigh, great idea you know you left out the damage control link right? you might want to throw that out too to keep with the tempo. |
Jack Lo
B0rthole
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:45:00 -
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I also am unhappy. although, i dont want to call you names and stuff. |
Nalren
Aperture Harmonics
K162
7
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:50:00 -
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RedShadow wrote:
It's a shame how silent you guys again tried to sell us a major game-change as a minor-detail. Just unbelievable. Again.
Stop that nerf!
/signed
The fact that it doesn't hurt my local reps is a small consolation; those help me survive. My goal is not to survive, it's to be useful in a fight. This change drops my usefulness (measured in armor reps per second from my Archon) about 18%.
Shame on you lot for not publicising this more in advance; you either knew about it and hid it, or you didn't anticipate how it would affect triage carriers and are now backpedaling and spinning. Either way, you've failed pretty hard with this one. |
Laak Pollard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:50:00 -
[42] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:
In this case the gang links had previously been affecting Capital Remote Armor Repair Systems but not Capital Shield Transporters. This change brought the armor reps in line with the shield variants.
While bringing armor reps in line with shield variants, will you be also changing them so that they land in beginning of the cycle like shield reps do? |
Beffah
B0rthole
Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:51:00 -
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Jack Lo wrote:I also am unhappy. although, i dont want to call you names and stuff.
He means to say you might be functionally ********.
Also, confirmed we've used links to speed cycles, just to hop on that bandwagon.
e: since I can't call you ********, how about "challenged and needs to wear a helmet when riding the short bus to school"? |
BlitZ Kotare
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:51:00 -
[44] - Quote
Eternal Error wrote:Stealth changes like this are not acceptable.
100% agreed. |
Dethmourne Silvermane
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:51:00 -
[45] - Quote
I don't understand why this wasn't considered a giant red flag. You have SIGNIFICANTLY modified the way the game works for capitals, both shield and armor. If the rigs no longer function, that's a bunch of ships with now-useless rigs. If the gang links no longer function, you've just made a subset of fleet comps completely useless. You've also pushed subcap warfare heavily in favor of shields since shield triage is going to be the only viable mechanism for saving ships with triage reps (and I can think of multiple doctrines that just got nerfed into uselessness).
This is such a huge nerf, I find it amazingly difficult to comprehend how you could be less than forthcoming in this regard.
TEST Alliance now offering rental agreements in Fountain. -áPlease contact me via eve-mail if interested. |
Kari Juptris
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
65
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:52:00 -
[46] - Quote
CCP just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory as far as I'm concerned.
They added a lot of great and sorely needed changes this patch, but somehow managed to completely forget to mention one of the larger game-changing nerfs I've seen.
Every time CCP gives me a reason to believe that they might know what they're doing again, they manage to quickly dispel any illusions I might have. Not letting us know about this change in advance indicates a HUGE disconnect between CCP and the player base. This is the kind of thing that every armor capital fleet in game needed to know.
Fozzie, I'll tell you this: You're lucky that EVE Online is such a niche product. |
HerrBert
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
2
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:55:00 -
[47] - Quote
Sklling 12m SP in Leadership .. = 8 Plex
Triage T2 Archon = 20 Plex
Realizing that CCP tricked me again... Priceless |
Senek4
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:56:00 -
[48] - Quote
What should i do with the damnation than ? Was not supposed to be used with capital suport ? I spent so much time training
leadership skills in the ideea that someday I will use capital ships to see that they are not needed anymore. Capital ships look like end game challenge and leadership skills the same, why should leadership skills be usable for middle game only ?
Most of the small gangs would not use a damnation to roam with. |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
501
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:56:00 -
[49] - Quote
This is both unacceptable, and despite protesting to the contrary, not a change you expected Fozzie.
Just own up and fix it, we're not that stupid anymore. |
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
36
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:58:00 -
[50] - Quote
Plan for alt to be T2 triage alt was about to start next week. 62 mil skillpoint multirace specialist has nothing to train for 2013. GF
Ugleb > and TDR won't log in so long as their core members are demotivated for whichever reason is in flavour this week |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
106
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Posted - 2012.12.04 16:59:00 -
[51] - Quote
Unnacceptable. Roll it back, collect feedback before change. This is a major mechanic change to several very popular fleet types, and goes against established mechanics.. bonuses and implants should affect all ships and afaik they always affected capital shield.
Either way, change it or epic community rage in 5-4-3-2 |
Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:00:00 -
[52] - Quote
While all you neck beards whine towards the typical patch day, "Non Monocle Peasants," in reality how many armor points per cycle is this actually removing? |
Whiny McEmokid
State Protectorate
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:01:00 -
[53] - Quote
excellent change CCP
**** caps |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
501
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:02:00 -
[54] - Quote
Ezra Vouland wrote:While all you neck beards whine towards the typical patch day, "Non Monocle Peasants," in reality how many armor points per cycle is this actually removing?
35% nerf across the board. That is a lot . |
BuckWyld
Kicked.
Shadow Cartel
17
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:03:00 -
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"Opps CCP did it again" 
Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat!
-Sun Tzu |
OMGFRIGATES WARPOUT
Article 47
45
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:04:00 -
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Whiny McEmokid wrote:excellent change CCP
**** caps
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Dinta Zembo
Snuff Box
77
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:05:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ezra Vouland wrote:While all you neck beards whine towards the typical patch day, "Non Monocle Peasants," in reality how many armor points per cycle is this actually removing?
I suppose you don't know the difference between DPS and volley damage either? |
Mad Morris
Friends Of Harassment
0
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:07:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:Sklling 12m SP in Leadership .. = 8 Plex
Triage T2 Archon = 20 Plex
Realizing that CCP tricked me again... Priceless
word.
chase us more :) |
Whiny McEmokid
State Protectorate
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:08:00 -
[59] - Quote
hey, how about just removing ganglinks, then suddenly the game is way more balanced. Also, people who are terrible but throw isk at their ships to make up for their badness, knowing that with the logi spam they have little chance of losing it, would have to L2P. |
StevieTopSiders
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
75
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:08:00 -
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Hey, let's make it so that gate guns put out 20k DPS to take down Triage carriers within 5 minutes. lol |
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