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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:51:00 -
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You cannot block anyone in this thread, sorry.
But if that highly selective link is genuine journalism and not something which happens to support your opinion, then I pity people with either low quality brains that cannot decode 48 frames per second footage, or I pity the DoP and post production team management - because they ain't gonna work ever again in their life.
As for me not knowing anything...since you do not know me, I think that comment falls into the filing cabinet known as arrogant presumption.
love and hugs,
AK
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.07 02:11:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
That entire sequence in "King Kong" was so long in the tooth, I could not finish the movie in one sitting.
I found the entire film a dull bore, even though 'slow' rarely turns me off. I'm one who can sit endlessly through "Tree of Life" and "Koyaanisqatsi" (not even any dialogue or characters for that matter).
It's clumsy slowness I am talking about here, and with King Kong, Peter Jackson proved himself a master at that.
er the movie is usually in the top ten list of the year. IMDB has it at #3 after Star Wars and Batman. This movie was fail? It's on about every top ten list for 2005, and there were many big movies in 2005...
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But Disney already made a failed attempt in the 60's and Bakshi's and Rankin/Bass LOTR were god awful. uh-huh... that's why they still sell them at Best Buy, horrible horrible movies... lol
I have all the animated Tolkien movies, they're all good. Part of my collection, including first edition books I've had since long before the blockbuster movies and the recent craze they brought. But the cartoons were awesome, I highly recommend them to any that haven't seen them yet.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.07 04:31:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
That entire sequence in "King Kong" was so long in the tooth, I could not finish the movie in one sitting.
I found the entire film a dull bore, even though 'slow' rarely turns me off. I'm one who can sit endlessly through "Tree of Life" and "Koyaanisqatsi" (not even any dialogue or characters for that matter).
It's clumsy slowness I am talking about here, and with King Kong, Peter Jackson proved himself a master at that.
er the movie is usually in the top ten list of the year. IMDB has it at #3 after Star Wars and Batman. This movie was fail? It's on about every top ten list for 2005, and there were many big movies in 2005... Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But Disney already made a failed attempt in the 60's and Bakshi's and Rankin/Bass LOTR were god awful. uh-huh... that's why they still sell them at Best Buy, horrible horrible movies... lol I have all the animated Tolkien movies, they're all good. Part of my collection, including first edition books I've had since long before the blockbuster movies and the recent craze they brought. But the cartoons were awesome, I highly recommend them to any that haven't seen them yet.
I beg to differ about the boringness or not of Jackson's "King Kong" . I hated it, and I was the target audience.
And a lot of the public must agree with me as it only has a Public rating of 52% favorable reviews : http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/king_kong/
Also, stores can sell bad movies because they are bad and fascinating. I collect MST3K DVD's. You think a film is 'great' just because it's available at a store. Go check out "Bucky Nelson".
......and we are entitled to our differing opinions about the animated LOTR nonsense. You are definitely on the short list for liking it. If you had read the books, how can you even begin to say they are good? The overly groveling Samwise was horribly performed. And the bikinis and disco outfits on the elves ? And the Rankin/Bass sequel's horrible musical numbers (including the unintentionally hilarious s&m oriented "Where There's a Whip, There's a Way"?
But then I've probably just wasted my time as I also feel you are right now considered borderline Troll, tbh.
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Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.07 10:22:00 -
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Sooo... Best Buy sells it among the classics, the other is top 10 of the year for 2005 (3rd to 8th) thus I'm just trolling ... lulz
so yawn...
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Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.07 11:32:00 -
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People complaining it is "too good" quality wise, with nice crisp pictures and good FPS is just absurd. Get your head out of your nostalgia ass, or go back to watching black and white ****** quality.
What it really boils down to is that people is afraid of change.
As for the movie itself, I like long slow movies, far too few of them these days. I am really sick of the 1-2 hour bullshit that Hollywood spews out regulatory that is just action scene after action scene. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:18:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:People complaining it is "too good" quality wise, with nice crisp pictures and good FPS is just absurd. Get your head out of your nostalgia ass, or go back to watching black and white ****** quality.
What it really boils down to is that people is afraid of change.
As for the movie itself, I like long slow movies, far too few of them these days. I am really sick of the 1-2 hour bullshit that Hollywood spews out regulatory that is just action scene after action scene.
Yeah, the headaches and nausea I experienced in 1978 when I saw this process were my fear of change. Yup.
3D bothers me not. I wouldn't want to see Avatar or Prometheus any other way. But this is an entirely different thing.
I agree with you about the slow movie thing........and if you had actually bothered to read my postings I covered this aspect already. There is a difference between doing slow well, and doing it badly. It can kill an otherwise great film.
I point it out as that seems to be the only real complaint coming from "average Joe" reviews. And if they are noticing an issue like that it miust be prettty bad.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.07 16:42:00 -
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This is actually an excellent 13 minute feature with TONS of Hobbit footage: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59907
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:18:00 -
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Uh oh. This isn't going well. (I will of course see for myself, but I had a feeling this would be the case. Note: the critic is a Tolkien fan.)
"Jackson has also chosen to shoot the film at 48 frames per second rather than the industry standard of 24. The intention is to make the digital special effects and swoopy landscape shots look smoother, which they do. The unintended side effect is that the extra visual detail gives the entire film a sickly sheen of fakeness: the props look embarrassingly proppy and the rubber noses look a great deal more rubbery than nosey. I was reminded of the BBCGÇÖs 1988 production of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, and not in a good way".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmreviews/9730525/The-Hobbit-An-Unexpected-Journey-movie-review.html
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.10 15:33:00 -
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This seems to tie in to this issue as well. Scorsese and his editor Thelma Schoonmaker talk digital drawbacks: http://www.indiewire.com/article/scorsese-editor-thelma-schoonmaker-explains-why-old-movies-may-never-look-or-sound-the-same-again
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:38:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:This seems to tie in to this issue as well. Scorsese and his editor Thelma Schoonmaker talk digital drawbacks: link
That link is about film restoration.
Progression in film making will always have real and genuine concerns, as they should. However once these concerns have been categorised as unimportant, there is no reason to question said progression.
If the post and pre-production of The Hobbit is as bad as 'critics' have said, then the methodology of 48 fps digital productions needs addressing, not prognosticating.
Digital film making past 2007 has been incredibly well received, and I have no doubt it is the best way to shoot a movie, even though a part of me has an affinity towards photochemical film production.
The only thorny issue is really for the audiences who have consistently paid more for watching a film, even though the all of the costs of film distribution have dropped to practically zero. Previously a single print would cost a disty $2k. Multiply that by the amount of screens in N.America (35,000) and you get a figure of roughly $70 mill.
They've saved, we've paid.
AK
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:43:00 -
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Agreed. Although digital is turning out to be not so good for restoration, I love the results that David Lynch got with that cheap camera for his film, my Corp's namesake, "INLAND EMPIRE" (his idea that the title must be printed in all caps).
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:13:00 -
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Yup.
Reminds me of that line from Citizen Kane:
CARTER
There is no news big enough.
KANE
If the headline is big enough, it
makes the news big enough.
AK
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.11 01:51:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:
The only thorny issue is really for the audiences who have consistently paid more for watching a film, even though the all of the costs of film distribution have dropped to practically zero. Previously a single print would cost a disty $2k. Multiply that by the amount of screens in N.America (35,000) and you get a figure of roughly $70 mill.
They've saved, we've paid.
AK
And still many of the productions move overseas (from the US). It even effects TV shows, where once good series were made, it's cheaper to make a reality show (e.g sY-fY ch.). Production, taxes, all the piles of cost here now. Not that this was ever a production here, but would be more costly if it were, and maybe never made.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:02:00 -
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Webvan wrote:AlleyKat wrote:
The only thorny issue is really for the audiences who have consistently paid more for watching a film, even though the all of the costs of film distribution have dropped to practically zero. Previously a single print would cost a disty $2k. Multiply that by the amount of screens in N.America (35,000) and you get a figure of roughly $70 mill.
They've saved, we've paid.
AK
And still many of the productions move overseas (from the US). It even effects TV shows, where once good series were made, it's cheaper to make a reality show (e.g sY-fY ch.). Production, taxes, all the piles of cost here now. Not that this was ever a production here, but would be more costly if it were, and maybe never made.
The technical film Guilds here in America are indeed expensive. Thus even shows like Battlestar Galactica are made in Canada.
Apparently the ones in England are too restrictive with short days and lots of breaks, including Tea Time. Drove James Cameron nuts when making "Aliens", as they would just stop working in the middle of complex undertakings and leave. Thus LOTR in New Zealand and the Star Wars pre-quels in Australia.
Also, reality series do not have writers to be paid.
Signs of the times. Everything to save an almighty dollar for the stockholders.
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raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:30:00 -
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Haha, just saw you gave me a bounty kristal while I was reading this thread.
I did disagree with you about the anime hobit, but hadn't even posted it yet. Didn't know that show was so touchy. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:35:00 -
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raskonalkov wrote:Haha, just saw you gave me a bounty kristal while I was reading this thread.
I did disagree with you about the anime hobit, but hadn't even posted it yet. Didn't know that show was so touchy.
lol. Bounty was a while ago.
What do you mean by 'touchy' ?
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raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:42:00 -
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Yeah, just saw the time from that bounty, after I posted, but its funny.
Film discussions are usually touchy. Was just making assumptions.
So tell me then, what inspired the bounty? A load of bad ice? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:41:00 -
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Don't remember. Pretty crazy weekend. Probably in return for putting one on me or jumping in with the Goons. lol
Edit: sidetracks own thread.
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raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:59:00 -
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So its unpopular to give Goons reach arounds now?
Oh well, was just curious. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:20:00 -
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raskonalkov wrote:So its unpopular to give Goons reach arounds now?
Oh well, was just curious.
What's a 'reach around'?
AK
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.11 18:43:00 -
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Hobbit Dwarf Flow Chart
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.11 21:12:00 -
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Temporarily locked for cleaning, please pardon our dust.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.12.12 02:08:00 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Cleaned the thread of some off topic posts. Please continue on.
Movie looks pretty good by the way.
It is a good entertaining movie. Definitely more light hearted and humor filled then LoTR, but still has the LoTR flavor instead of the book's more childish one. The main plot thread follows the book pretty closely in the major plot points, but it deviates in other places and does it's own thing in some way in almost every scene. It lays the groundwork for the future events and characters quite nicely. It was a very satisfying experience overall.
I don't have any major gripes about it, but there are some scenes where I groaned. It has got a few of those Peter Jackson over the top dramatic action scenes, where things cross over from intense to silly. Other than that and some nitpicks it's another solid entry in the middle-earth movie series. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.12 03:46:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:
I don't have any major gripes about it, but there are some scenes where I groaned. It has got a few of those Peter Jackson over the top dramatic action scenes, where things cross over from intense to silly.
That happened in his early 'horror' films too.
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Graygor
1kB Realty
1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:51:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:
I don't have any major gripes about it, but there are some scenes where I groaned. It has got a few of those Peter Jackson over the top dramatic action scenes, where things cross over from intense to silly.
That happened in his early 'horror' films too.
Do not speak ill of Brain Dead! It has kung fu fighting priests.
Also going to see this on friday. Looking forwards to it even though i hate lines.
Post with your brainGäó |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.12 13:11:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:
I don't have any major gripes about it, but there are some scenes where I groaned. It has got a few of those Peter Jackson over the top dramatic action scenes, where things cross over from intense to silly.
That happened in his early 'horror' films too. Do not speak ill of Brain Dead! It has kung fu fighting priests. Also going to see this on friday. Looking forwards to it even though i hate lines.
It's more like this: "Bad Taste" was an accidental "Let's watch this thing. It looks awful!". That was aroung 1990.
My roommate and I made fun of it. Telling everyone how silly and 'awful' it was. Hilarious.
When I first started reading news about LOTR films being developed by a Peter Jackson in 1995 I did not realize who that was until Harry over at aintitcool.com put Peter's early titles in a little blurb, and I saw "Bad Taste" listed. My mother still remembers me suddenly yelling ."Noooooo. This dude is way too inept to do LOTR. No way...no WAY!" 
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.12 14:19:00 -
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now he must make a movie of The Silmarillion |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2012.12.12 14:31:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:now he must make a movie of The Silmarillion
Because of both length and the entirely separated stories especially Part II, it would be best served as a mini-series.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2012.12.12 20:12:00 -
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I find it outrageous that no midgets were actually harmed in the filming of this movie.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.12 20:17:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I find it outrageous that no midgets were actually harmed in the filming of this movie.
For once animals were: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/19/hobbit-animal-deaths-wranglers_n_2158198.html
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