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Octoven
Phoenix Productions
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Posted - 2012.12.17 22:42:00 -
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I want to know why we as a community must choose between revamping the jukebox or focusing on playable features. It is obviously that you, the developers, have spent time and attention into this new music system. Why could that time not have been utilized instead on refining the already existing jukebox instead of creating something new entirely? |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:04:00 -
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CCP RealX wrote:Hi, I want to thank you all for taking time to give this matter you attention. We (meaning the CCP sound department) are monitoring this thread closely and take all opinions into consideration. I hope you don't think we made this decision lightly. First, some back story. As many of you know that used the jukebox it was quite buggy and we got a lot of negative feedback regarding its use, it didn't measure up to other media players, it didn't support this or that codec etc. The jukebox works as a plugin to our audio engine (Audio Kinetics WWise) and was based on a now deprecated Microsoft MP3 decoder that was used as an example on how to build plugins for the WWise engine. As mentioned in the blog these were the biggest issues that factored into the removal the jukebox. We believe we made the right decision but that is for EVE's community to decide. If we however made the wrong decision and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. And I ask you all to weigh that into your thoughts on the matter. The jukebox needs a lot of love, and if we will give it all the love that it needs it will take development time away from game-play related features. If you decide that there is more value for you in the jukebox than there is in new features we will shift our focus back to the jukebox. Regards, RealX
To be honest as an audio department if you are indeed responsible for audio management in the game...that should be your primary focus. I fail to see where this hurts further game developing features unless you are speaking of additional aaudio features like fixing EVE Voice for example.
Another issue here is taking control out of the players hands completely. Granted the jukebox may have had some incompatability issues with specific imported sound clips; however, the previous version of the jukebox that only allowed the music within eve to be played did not. You could not add in your own music, BUT you could choose which song played even if it was Below the Asteroids 50 times in a row. It is that level of control you have taken away.
As for the current state of the jukebox. I am sorry to be rather blunt, but you (the audio dept) are responsible for working out issues revolving new features such as a jukebox where you can import music. However, I am forced to now rely on spotify or pandora to listen to my own music when CCP has flipped head over heals to integrate twitch functions into the client? Sorry but thats rubbish. I would rather had seen development to fix the jukebox and THEN add in twitch.
Development resources aren't being wasted here in my opinion its not like we are having to sacrifice a new ship in place of a jukebox. Its simple the audio department can work out the jukebox and actually WORK on audio...amazing stuff!
I encourage the jukebox's return and lets start fixing stuff that players ARE in fact using before adding new content. Your metrics say that not many are using the jukebox. Unfortunately your metrics are not telling you that the majority of those figures come from alt accounts being utilized at the same time as a primary. So if its saying 20% of eve actually uses it...its a fair bet that its closer to 60-80% of eve. Not everyone will have the jukebox running on 3-4 clients when they need only listen through one client. |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions
Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:27:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Octoven wrote:So if its saying 20% of eve actually uses it... I think it was more like 5% usage. If you count alt accounts vs main accounts, you can easily bump that up to 15% usage, and then you have to consider how many people weren't using it because it NEEDED MORE WORK, not because they didn't want to use it. That will bring the figure to maybe 25-35%. Consider still how many people don't think much of it yet but would choose to use it if it were revamped to allow the option to run music from our computer, and you start to get some nice potential usage figures.
Hmm I would indeed like to see some documentation to that fact please. As for the usability, had they removed the JB they could have placed the original one in its place. There were no issues around that AND it did give player controls. Rather than revert it they just flat out took the controls away which isn't a feasible option to those who do actually use it. |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions
Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:21:00 -
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DarkestHeart wrote:Since I made this thread its been consistently at the front few pages. When will CCP take note? When will they respond?
What I want to know is how big is the biggest petition yet for CCP, cause I would bet this is it :)
Actually I think the threadnaught for giving back Incarna station environments tops this  |
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