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Verum Peto
Cog Banking
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Posted - 2012.12.05 07:28:00 -
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Suggestions? |
bubble trout
Sky Fighters
Talocan United
18
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Posted - 2012.12.05 08:24:00 -
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[Venture, Venture fit]
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
472
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Posted - 2012.12.05 13:53:00 -
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what's the eccm for?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
110
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Posted - 2012.12.05 13:53:00 -
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bubble trout wrote:[Venture, Venture fit]
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
The improved T2 cloak would also fit, I didn't have one when I put this fit together. I can't decide whether to be horrified or impressed that all that fits.
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Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens
Viro Mors Non Est
48
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Posted - 2012.12.05 15:03:00 -
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Aeril Malkyre wrote:bubble trout wrote:[Venture, Venture fit]
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
The improved T2 cloak would also fit, I didn't have one when I put this fit together. I can't decide whether to be horrified or impressed that all that fits.
Horribly impressed maybe.
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@OP
It's a mining ship, fit mining modules, and something pretending to be a tank. I reccomend a probe launcher or prototype cloak in that last high. |
Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Test Alliance Please Ignore
214
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Posted - 2012.12.05 15:10:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:what's the eccm for?
Makes you harder to probe out.
I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Exhale.
166
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Posted - 2012.12.05 15:13:00 -
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you dont need a stab in the low it already has +2 warp strength. fit a DCU or something.. i dunno |
Verum Peto
Cog Banking
1
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Posted - 2012.12.05 15:59:00 -
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a mining laser upgrade II fits in the low
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Yabba Addict
Red Shift Enterprises
43
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:35:00 -
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Can't really see the point of the eccm tbh, if you're mining in an anom they can just scan that instead |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
145
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:47:00 -
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bubble trout wrote:[Venture, Venture fit]
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
The improved T2 cloak would also fit, I didn't have one when I put this fit together.
Confirmed, I have about the same with the improved cloak.
And don't forget the drone bay! |
Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords
Fatal Ascension
159
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:04:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:bubble trout wrote:[Venture, Venture fit]
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
The improved T2 cloak would also fit, I didn't have one when I put this fit together. Confirmed, I have about the same with the improved cloak. And don't forget the drone bay!
This doesn't seem bad for what it appears to be designed to do. It appears that this is designed to ninja mine gas in low/null sec space. In that case, pretty much anything that can point you will kill you, so why not set it up for avoidance as much as possible. It isn't my favorite fit ever, but it doesn't look horrible.
http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |
Bumrush
Hard Knocks Inc.
19
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:13:00 -
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Yabba Addict wrote:Can't really see the point of the eccm tbh, if you're mining in an anom they can just scan that instead
Wormhole and if you scan out the gas site you will not land on the ships then they run away
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Verum Peto
Cog Banking
1
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:37:00 -
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What about just a high sec mining fit? |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Squirrel Horde
Habitat Against Humanity
126
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:52:00 -
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[Venture, lol]
Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |
Tsai Ashitaka
Aether Ventures
Surely You're Joking
7
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Posted - 2012.12.05 22:52:00 -
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Yep. Scan the anom down and you'll end up 50km away from the ships. More than enough time to warp off (with the 3-4 second align time). |
Verum Peto
Cog Banking
1
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Posted - 2012.12.05 23:12:00 -
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None of this is what this topic was intended for.... |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2012.12.05 23:30:00 -
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Verum Peto wrote:None of this is what this topic was intended for....
It's a mining frigate. Drop on a couple Miner IIs or Gas Harvesters (if you happen to find a ladar site), fit tank (or an MLU), and you're done. What's the problem? Since you're talking high sec there isn't a whole lot of originality called for.
On a side note, if you're interested in solo mining or mission mining, just use one of the barges; I like the Skiff when I'm bored and want to run mining missions, or a Mack when I need to get some serious ore.
Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |
bubble trout
Sky Fighters
Talocan United
18
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Posted - 2012.12.05 23:55:00 -
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Bumrush wrote:Yabba Addict wrote:Can't really see the point of the eccm tbh, if you're mining in an anom they can just scan that instead Wormhole and if you scan out the gas site you will not land on the ships then they run away His fit is designed to gas in wormhole space
We have a winner!
This frig is ridiculously op for gassing. 17 sensor strength and 40m sig makes it harder to probe. 419m/s with out mwd makes it faster than all reasonable cloaked stealth bomber fits. 3 second align time and mwd let you get off holes and out of bubbles fast. Cloak gives you the option of just mwding off the cloud when you see probes and cloak up. You need 4 points to hold it, so a 3-point scram on a bomber won't get you.
It has the ehp of a wet paper bag, but if you are getting shot at you are doing it wrong. I don't know with the new gmp skill effecting torps if a bomber will hurt it, but if you are moving I don't think he will kill you in one shot. A thrasher or something will **** you up though. |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Squirrel Horde
Habitat Against Humanity
126
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Posted - 2012.12.06 00:14:00 -
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Verum Peto wrote:None of this is what this topic was intended for....
Is it really, honestly that hard to fit it for basic mining? o.o
[Venture, mining]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Medium Shield Extender II
1MN Afterburner II
Survey Scanner II
Miner II
Miner II
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x2
Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |
Sabony
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.06 17:15:00 -
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i'm a loser, i can't use any of those things, i'm a boob i mean noob here's my catastrophe:
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
[empty]
Medium Shield Booster I
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Mark I Generator Refitting: Diagnostic System
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
2x Hobgoblins I
Commence the barage |
Ryric Cynema
Incompertus INC
Fatal Ascension
3
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Posted - 2012.12.06 17:16:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:[Venture, lol]
Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
I want to see a gang or fleet of these trolling through null/low soon. 
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Huorek
Blood Stripe Resistance
0
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Posted - 2012.12.06 18:47:00 -
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Currently running with this :
Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Core Probe Launcher
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x2
The probe launcher gets swapped out for a salvager or a neut, but obviously if I'm pve salvaging or exploring I don't need the scram. I can drop it for a codebreaker etc if needed but for pve ratting but for general combat with no tackling needed what should I place there? I am torn between more tank or eccm since I seem to be easily jammed.
I also was curious as to how 'snipey' I could make it.... if I can can get 2 280mms to fit along with a sensor boost or such. But I would need to drop tackle or tank to get range (or both to get 'enough' range). Any ideas on making it a 'sniper'?
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Eury Thorn
Shockwave Innovations
Shockwave Sovereign Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.12.06 20:37:00 -
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hs/ls miner
[High]
miner II
miner II
prototype cloaking device I
[med]
survey scanner II
1mn afterburner II
medium shield extender II
[low]
mining laser upgrade II
[rigs]
small polycarbon engine housing I
small low friction nozzle joints I
small core defense field extender I
[drones]
2x hobgoblins II
cap stable
1400m/s
2159 ehp
run into people warp to within xxx and cloak up |
Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
31
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Posted - 2012.12.06 21:14:00 -
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Verum Peto wrote:None of this is what this topic was intended for....
you asked for fit.
you got fit.
you EVEN got discussion about what fit did and why.
what else do you want? |
Alara IonStorm
3733
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Posted - 2012.12.06 21:25:00 -
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Silas Shaw wrote:
what else do you want?
ORE I would imagine... |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2012.12.07 02:46:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:
ORE I would imagine...
Well what did he expect with an opening post that was just "Suggestions?". |
Rezard
Fornax Chemica
COALICION HISPANA
4
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Posted - 2012.12.07 07:38:00 -
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Here is my solid Venture Fitting:
[Venture, Rezard's Special]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Miner II
Miner II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Mining Drone II x2
You can change the drones for hobs maybe, but it's not meant to endure a lot in 0.0 and highsec rats take a loooot to break this tank so... I prefer the extra ORE wich is about 800m3 per minute :) |
Teholl Beddict
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.07 11:10:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:Verum Peto wrote:None of this is what this topic was intended for.... Is it really, honestly that hard to fit it for basic mining? o.o [Venture, mining] Mining Laser Upgrade II Medium Shield Extender II 1MN Afterburner II Survey Scanner II Miner II Miner II Small Tractor Beam I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x2
OK So I'm new... been on Eve for about a month maybe, so I know very very little (aside from a lot of theroy crafting while at work)
I'm in the process of training up for mining at the moment (waiting on lvl4 at the mo). Done some training toward hauling (and have made myself about 15 mil from hauling things about the place)..so i can afford to eat a bit...and invest in some mining gear
Next project (now that the above is fit for the basics when i need it) - is mining. Was delighted with the new mining Frig option... and the abiove fit looks feasible to me (i.e. I might be able to jump in that ship..with that fit sometime very soon)
Couple of questions if I may.. the two Rigs below... haven't cmoe across these before
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
.... is there a reason for picking those two specifically? (i.e Thermal resisstance vs. some other type of resistabnce?) - sorry if thats a ridiculous question lol... if it is, then please assume I just don't know the right questions to be asking yet (not that I'm taking the mickey)
I was thinking about starting out in high sec...something like 0,7 down if I can get away with it (want to farm more profitable ore if possible) - ...then thinking about some ninja mining down the line in low sec
Any advice for starting out would be welcome!
Thanks all
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Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.12.07 11:23:00 -
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Ryric Cynema wrote:I want to see a gang or fleet of these trolling through null/low soon.
PL and a few other null alliances have been flying them calling them dashercats
[Venture, DasherKat]
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Shield Extender II
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Damage Control II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
140
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Posted - 2012.12.08 10:54:00 -
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Teholl Beddict wrote:
Couple of questions if I may.. the two Rigs below... haven't cmoe across these before
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
.... is there a reason for picking those two specifically? (i.e Thermal resisstance vs. some other type of resistabnce?) - sorry if thats a ridiculous question lol... if it is, then please assume I just don't know the right questions to be asking yet (not that I'm taking the mickey)
Sometimes you just want to "balance out" your resists, so that your goal is to have your lowest shield resist (or your lowest armour resist - but always choose either to focus on shield or on armour tank!) as high as possible.
One reason for that is that you don't know what kinds of damage you're going to encounter. So you choose to omni-tank, instead of optimizing your tank against a specific flavour of incoming.
Another is if you're a veteran pilot, and you know full well what to optimize for, but you can't be arsed to shuffle modules around all the time. So you omni-tank. And if you have the badass skillz, then that'll be good enough.
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Gypsio III
Chemikals
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
457
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Posted - 2012.12.08 11:04:00 -
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bubble trout wrote:Bumrush wrote:Yabba Addict wrote:Can't really see the point of the eccm tbh, if you're mining in an anom they can just scan that instead Wormhole and if you scan out the gas site you will not land on the ships then they run away His fit is designed to gas in wormhole space We have a winner!
Unfortunately, anyone with a brain will warp to the Ladar result at 100 km while dropping BMs. Then it's simple to bounce back and forth until you can warp straight to the Venture's can. You'd be better off dropping an ECCM for an ECM Burst, although that may cause horrific CPU problems. |
Trog LoDite
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:56:00 -
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Sabony wrote:i'm a loser, i can't use any of those things, i'm a boob i mean noob here's my catastrophe:
This sounds trollish, but what the heck, I'll bite (lurking newbs may find this helpful). Anytime you can't fit a Tech 2 module, switch to the Tech 1 - Meta 4 version. If you can't afford that, then drop down to the Tech 1 - Meta 3 (and so on, etc etc).
Here's a general high-sec fit (no specific modules are named, so get the best ones you can buy/fit)...
[High Slots]
Miner
Miner
(Optional)
[Mid Slots]
Survey Scanner
Medium Shield Extender
(Optional - Small Shield Booster, Afterburner or some other defensive shield module)
[Low Slots]
Mining Laser Upgrade
(Optional - Damage Control if you can fit it)
2x Light Scout Drones (Hobgoblins probably preferred, but your mileage may vary) |
Meklun Gorebelly
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.09 18:27:00 -
[33] - Quote
Quote:(Optional - Damage Control if you can fit it)
2x Light Scout Drones (Hobgoblins probably preferred, but your mileage may vary)
Okay, I'm not that new to EVE but just starting with mining.
So could someone answer me, why to use Damage control in the low slot and Hopgoblins as Drones instead of Minig Drones? |
Pashino
Venice Academy
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.09 18:47:00 -
[34] - Quote
Meklun Gorebelly wrote:Quote:(Optional - Damage Control if you can fit it)
2x Light Scout Drones (Hobgoblins probably preferred, but your mileage may vary) Okay, I'm not that new to EVE but just starting with mining. So could someone answer me, why to use Damage control in the low slot and Hopgoblins as Drones instead of Minig Drones?
Protection against rats, mainly. Certainly newcomers are better off with a couple of scout drones than Miner I's in the drone bay. |
Meklun Gorebelly
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 19:20:00 -
[35] - Quote
Okay, Thanks for the Answer.
But when I want to do some Solo-Mining in 0.7 or 0.6, I would use a Fitting like the one from Rezard:
Quote:Mining Laser Upgrade II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Miner II
Miner II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Mining Drone II x2
Just with the difference, I would use a Core Probe Launcher for findig the "good rocks".
Search for it, Jump in, mine as fast and much as possible and jump out before someone noticed you. Or Jump out, WHEN someone noticed you. |
Trog LoDite
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.10 16:18:00 -
[36] - Quote
Meklun Gorebelly wrote:
Just with the difference, I would use a Core Probe Launcher for findig the "good rocks".
Search for it, Jump in, mine as fast and much as possible and jump out before someone noticed you. Or Jump out, WHEN someone noticed you.
I've been using the fit I posted to do low-sec mining runs. I've taken it into .2 space to grab Hemorphite (I just love that +2 stab bonus). In that case, I prefer to deal with the rats before I start mining. But, that's just my preference. There's nothing wrong with passive tanking rats if that's your preference.
However, without scanning rigs, I think most people will have trouble scanning down GRAV sites in this ship. With 4's in all scanning skills, I still have to get a probe strength of 70+ to lock on to them (I'll admit that it's possible that the issue is I'm just a crappy scanner though).
EDIT: Wrong site type. Doh! |
Meklun Gorebelly
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.10 18:53:00 -
[37] - Quote
Trog LoDite wrote:
EDIT: Wrong site type. Doh!
Which part of your Post you mean?
But I wil try both of it and maybe some more to find my personal style. |
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Liquid Lucifer Industries
9
|
Posted - 2012.12.11 21:44:00 -
[38] - Quote
Griznatch wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:what's the eccm for? Makes you harder to probe out.
No it doesn't, that's what ECM is for, to interfere with the sensor performance of the attacker. ECCM is used by an attacker to burn through the ECM by improving his own sensor performance.
Electronic Counter measure
Electronic Counter-Counter measure |
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
47
|
Posted - 2012.12.11 21:49:00 -
[39] - Quote
Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:Griznatch wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:what's the eccm for? Makes you harder to probe out. No it doesn't, that's what ECM is for, to interfere with the sensor performance of the attacker. ECCM is used by an attacker to burn through the ECM by improving his own sensor performance. Electronic Counter measure Electronic Counter-Counter measure
In the real world, yeah.
In EVE, ECCM boosts your sensor strength, which somehow effects someone else's ability to scan you down. The formula is your signature radius divided by your sensor strength. The closer you get to 1, the better. I know, it doesn't really make sense.
Neut the bastards |
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Liquid Lucifer Industries
9
|
Posted - 2012.12.11 21:58:00 -
[40] - Quote
Really? Did not know that, it is definitely counter-intuitive.
Well, umm ... never mind me then, carry on |
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
47
|
Posted - 2012.12.11 22:17:00 -
[41] - Quote
Which article? This one indicates that ECCM modules help you from being scanned down.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Avoiding_scan_probes
To whit, the problem has to do with the formula using YOUR sensor strength to determine how easy/hard it is to scan you down. There really should be some other value used in that calculation.
Neut the bastards |
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Liquid Lucifer Industries
9
|
Posted - 2012.12.11 22:34:00 -
[42] - Quote
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ECM
I see these in the entries:
The chance of one module to jam one ship on one cycle is p = ECM strength / ship sensor strength.
Target size is calculated as sig radius / sensor strength
From my POV and real world the ECM strength or sig radius is from the target ship and the sensor strength is from the scanning ship. I think whoever wrote the entry on avoiding scan probes was using the values only from the target ship which is illogical. I understand CCP makes mistakes or alters things for game balance but this seems too unlikely. |
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
47
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Posted - 2012.12.11 22:42:00 -
[43] - Quote
I think the issue is that jamming and scanning are two largely unrelated things, even in the real world.
The ECM/ECCM formula makes sense. The ECCM/scan probes formula doesn't. But they both are accurate with respect to how the game works. You can search threads about off-grid boosters using ECCM modules to make them unscannable.
My guess would be that someone just pulled one of the numbers as a surrogate, since there wasn't another value to use. That or "Sensor Strength" not only reflects how well a ship is able to resist being jammed but also how well a ship can mask its electromagnetic emissions.
Neut the bastards |
Silivar Karkun
Electronic Research Team Ing
2
|
Posted - 2012.12.11 23:02:00 -
[44] - Quote
[Venture- Full Solo Yield]
highs:
Miner II x 2
medium:
Survey Scanner II
Low:
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Rigs:
Small Drone Mining Augmentator II x 2
Small Drone Mining Augmentator I
Drones:
Mining Drone II
made this fit in EFT, and this baby pulls like 940-950 m3 per minute (skills in V), this without fleet boost |
Kyle Bergman
Star Frontiers Alpha Dawn
Ignore This.
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.12 07:47:00 -
[45] - Quote
So for that first fit for gas harvesting with the cloaking device and ECCM, how do you actually find the ladar site in the first place without a probe launcher? |
Luminocity
The Dark Revenants
11
|
Posted - 2012.12.13 21:42:00 -
[46] - Quote
Gypsio III wrote:Unfortunately, anyone with a brain will warp to the Ladar result at 100 km while dropping BMs. Then it's simple to bounce back and forth until you can warp straight to the Venture's can. You'd be better off dropping an ECCM for an ECM Burst, although that may cause horrific CPU problems. Your argument is no longer valid post-Retribution. Gas now goes into ore hold. Venture has 5k m3 ore hold. No can is required in most cases.
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bubble trout
Sky Fighters
Talocan United
21
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Posted - 2012.12.14 00:44:00 -
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Kyle Bergman wrote:So for that first fit for gas harvesting with the cloaking device and ECCM, how do you actually find the ladar site in the first place without a probe launcher?
WIth a cov-ops alt or corpmate, or just go to pos/station and change after you scan it.
Gypsio III wrote:Unfortunately, anyone with a brain will warp to the Ladar result at 100 km while dropping BMs. Then it's simple to bounce back and forth until you can warp straight to the Venture's can. You'd be better off dropping an ECCM for an ECM Burst, although that may cause horrific CPU problems.
You can mine for about 30-40 minutes without having to jet. If you are too lazy to go home or warp to your pos every 30-40 minutes you deserve to be ganked.
If they are really good, without the eccm, they might (I have no clue) pin you with one scan and warp to zero at you. With the eccm I don't think they can hit you with just one scan, and if they scan the site you will have even more time to get out. I do know the basics of combat probe someone down, after narrowing them down with d-scan and putting probes right on them, and while I don't have level 5's or am really great at it, I do know that with level 4's you need to get the combats right on them at .5 au.
Personally I'd rather just make it quite a bit more difficult for them to get the drop on me than to pray that my chance based mod will save me from the larger number of people that will be able to pin me with one scan. |
Maichel Delving
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.31 06:15:00 -
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Verum Peto wrote:Suggestions?
I'm a noob but here is what I'm working with:
High:
- Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
- Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
- Salvager I
Medium:
- Small Clarity Ward Booster I
- 'Dactyl' Type-E Asteroid Analyzer
- 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
Low:
- Overdrive Injector System I
Drones:
- Mining Drone I
- Mining Drone I
I also keep two offensive drones in my cargo hold. If I need the offense I'll dock and swap the drones. Then I can use my salvager to pick up the scraps. |
Maeltstome
Mentally Assured Destruction
314
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Posted - 2013.01.31 09:09:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:[Venture, lol]
Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
[Venture, Plate]
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Limited 1MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Script
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Hobgoblin II x2
Low-grade Slave Alpha
Low-grade Slave Beta
Low-grade Slave Gamma
Low-grade Slave Delta
Low-grade Slave Epsilon
Low-grade Slave Omega
HurrDurrKILLDATVENTURE |
Feer Truelight
95
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:14:00 -
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Griznatch wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:what's the eccm for? Makes you harder to probe out.
So you probe the ladar site and be faster than scanning a frig with combats?
lololo
Killed by Brothel: http://i.imgur.com/WyR1x.png
BC skill changes coming this summer: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2442879#post2442879 |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
438
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Posted - 2013.01.31 20:19:00 -
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bubble trout wrote:Kyle Bergman wrote:So for that first fit for gas harvesting with the cloaking device and ECCM, how do you actually find the ladar site in the first place without a probe launcher? WIth a cov-ops alt or corpmate, or just go to pos/station and change after you scan it. Gypsio III wrote:Unfortunately, anyone with a brain will warp to the Ladar result at 100 km while dropping BMs. Then it's simple to bounce back and forth until you can warp straight to the Venture's can. You'd be better off dropping an ECCM for an ECM Burst, although that may cause horrific CPU problems. You can mine for about 30-40 minutes without having to jet. If you are too lazy to go home or warp to your pos every 30-40 minutes you deserve to be ganked. If they are really good, without the eccm, they might (I have no clue) pin you with one scan and warp to zero at you. With the eccm I don't think they can hit you with just one scan, and if they scan the site you will have even more time to get out. I do know the basics of combat probe someone down, after narrowing them down with d-scan and putting probes right on them, and while I don't have level 5's or am really great at it, I do know that with level 4's you need to get the combats right on them at .5 au. Personally I'd rather just make it quite a bit more difficult for them to get the drop on me than to pray that my chance based mod will save me from the larger number of people that will be able to pin me with one scan.
Well the thing is you can scan down the site, then switch to combat probes, place them at minimum range right on the site, and usually get a lock on the ship with first scan. But if they are on the ball they will spot your scan probes before you can warp in, they will be gone when you get there.
Some one said about getting close enough to warp to there can, well Venture has 5000m3 ore hold. it does not need a can. This is not the old Cane or cruiser gas miners with no cargo hold.
A venture is hard to catch, especially when it is flown by a good pilot, I would fit for max yield, and GTFO, forget tank. It is a frigate that will die very fast if they can lock you to even start shooting. No need for a tank when you can be gone before the first shot lands.Your GTFO is your tank. |
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