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Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
136
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Posted - 2012.12.06 23:30:00 -
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Just give it a few weeks. It will cool down a bit eventually. Right now I think people are just enjoying the heck out of a new feature.
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Angeal MacNova
9th Fleet-Seraphins
43
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Posted - 2012.12.06 23:43:00 -
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Where you went wrong was expecting people to be civil on the EVE forums. |
Denidil
Evocations of Shadow Eternal Evocations
537
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Posted - 2012.12.06 23:48:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:If you are any good at industry, you'd have some isk to do the same to them. Unlike some people I have better things to do with my income other than annoying people with senseless bounty placement
having a bounty on you doesn't allow them to activate suspect flag. so they still have to suicide. one of my alts was given a bounty for no reason other than "EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BOUNTIES!" according to one person
if you cannot deal with this then please contract me all your items and isk. Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design. |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
673
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Posted - 2012.12.06 23:52:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Even if it's limited to putting a bounty on someone who you have killrights on and those with negative security status, just make it actually have a reason and a meaning. Otherwise, the short term gain threatens the long term goal.
The long term goal is more dead people, hth. EveO is a circus train that is for bafflingly unclear reasons also carrying tanks of chlorine gas,-ácrashing and exploding in the middle of a small midwestern town. -áCalling it a mere train wreck gives neither the entertainment nor the horror it offers its proper due. |
Luke Visteen
Apostasy Prime
116
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Posted - 2012.12.06 23:57:00 -
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this is Sparta I don't always do. But when I do - I do. |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
288
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Posted - 2012.12.06 23:59:00 -
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When boba fett came to kill luke skywalker he didn't sit there crying how he didn't do anything wrong. Such is the point of bounties. Someone has payed to have you killed, as in real life the reason matters not and cannot be inforced. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
150
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Posted - 2012.12.07 00:00:00 -
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So let's talk mining.
Currently there are two shows on the same network in the US, Gold Rush and Jungle Gold. Gold Rush takes place in the US. The miners main worry is finding gold. The rest of their rights are protected by operating within a stable, sovreign nation.
Then there is Jungle Gold. There the guys have to worry about Chinese jumping their claim, bandits stealing their money, extortion, crooked cops...you name it. They constantly watch their backs as the operate in an unstable, loosely controlled nation.
Hi Sec v Lo Sec.
You would think in Eve Hi Sec that Empire factionswould have an interest in protecting their sovreignty or the rights of the individuals that reside therin, much like the miners on Gold Rush. This would imply a social contract.
But you are a capsuleer. You have no social contract. This gives you tremendous freedom but it is up to you, not a sovreign nation, to protect your rights.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1462
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Posted - 2012.12.07 00:03:00 -
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This is fun. Bounties for everyone!
No one can escape another capsuleers vengeance now. This expansion has thus far been a great and much needed equalizer for the game.
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Elvis Fett
Quantum Cats Syndicate Drunk 'n' Disorderly
124
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Posted - 2012.12.07 00:08:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:If you are any good at industry, you'd have some isk to do the same to them. Unlike some people I have better things to do with my income other than annoying people with senseless bounty placement
I used to think that too, until I read this thread. Enjoy your new bounty my good sir. |
Valleria Darkmoon
No Salvation
39
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Posted - 2012.12.07 06:44:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:If you are any good at industry, you'd have some isk to do the same to them. Unlike some people I have better things to do with my income other than annoying people with senseless bounty placement
I hope you realize that the fact that you posted this is EXACTLY what they were paying for. They put a bounty on you ONLY to get under your skin and lo and behold it worked.
Besides how do you know you didn't sell the ore or minerals that were used to construct the weapon used to kill the guy who put the bounty on you. No one in this game is guiltless. Your bounty is not baseless.
But there's good news, the novelty of this system will wear off soon enough and you'll no longer have to worry about it. |
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Amitious Turkey
The Scope Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.12.07 06:46:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:Working as intended. You can put a bounty on them all the same, as well as sell the possible kill rights you acquire...
See? You have an out for retribution. Working as intended. In fact this is a massive improvement over the old "we gank you, ho ho ho you lose" system. Now you can fight back...without even fighting back. I like to lick things.
Haunting the forums since 03. |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
273
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Posted - 2012.12.07 06:50:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:If you are any good at industry, you'd have some isk to do the same to them. Unlike some people I have better things to do with my income other than annoying people with senseless bounty placement
In other words, you can't afford it? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
35
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Posted - 2012.12.08 06:37:00 -
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Labaianoch wrote:Just checked, out of morbid curiosity; This guy's bounty is now over 800 mil. Maybe the ultimate goal of the new bounty system was to burn out the whiners?
Its not CCP's fault that you have, for some reason, missed the memo as far as the basis of this game, for the past 2 years that you've been playing. PvP, back stabbing, evil in general are in fact encouraged. If that ruins the game for you, well, you just saved $15 bucks next month! Win!
Its currently at 1 billion, and I put up 90% of the bounty. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
PatchYourselfUp
Cataclysm Affliction
1
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Posted - 2012.12.08 06:45:00 -
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I just find that everyone having a bounty worth 100k ISK is silly and immersion-breaking. |
Hate 101
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.12.08 07:12:00 -
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The bounty sys is a total joke now all the players in the game have a bounty so now it means nothing to have one |
Sharon Anne
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.08 07:18:00 -
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Miners need to stop mining and play another game. or un-sub because CCP not going to change it if you still pay for it. |
baltec1
Bat Country
3101
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Posted - 2012.12.08 07:21:00 -
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Hate 101 wrote:The bounty sys is a total joke now all the players in the game have a bounty so now it means nothing to have one
Give it a few months. This is a new and very cool toy but just like the furby people will lose interestin sperging 100k bounties everywhere and the first wave of bounties will expire. |
Hate 101
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.12.08 07:34:00 -
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I earned my bounty i shot a players pods that where on auto pilot roflol in high sec i am over 10mill now i have to - 0.4 sys now my sec rating not too good now |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
476
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Posted - 2012.12.08 07:35:00 -
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This does bring up a question.
So I gather you have no idea who placed a bounty on you ? You would think you should at least know who wants you dead.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
baltec1
Bat Country
3102
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Posted - 2012.12.08 07:38:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:This does bring up a question.
So I gather you have no idea who placed a bounty on you ? You would think you should at least know who wants you dead.
You get a mail. |
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
193
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Posted - 2012.12.08 08:44:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:I guess one of the things i find....well bemusing...is I have a 5.0 sec status, have never griefed anyone (unless u count posting on forums with my opinions griefing as one person who bountied me said) and have only rarely been in combat....yet i can have 400M+ in bounties placed on me for no better reason than the fact im a carebear that likes mining, mission running and the odd incursion?....so why should i bother maintaining a 5.0 sec status...will concord arrive faster? doubtful
Unsub button worked for me. If CCP doesn't care about you then why should you care about them? Games are supposed to be fun. When they are no longer fun we stop playing them. I, for one, am not going to keep giving them money to make me miserable. One IRS in the world is enough, thanks.
And before any brainless nitwit asks: My corp is getting my stuff.
And no, I don't really give a crap about this joke of a bounty system. I just couldn't stand logging in one day and finding that my entire fleet of drone ships (Myrmidon, Gila, Rattlesnake) had all been rendered utterly worthless, along with the better part of a year's worth of skill points hat I had invested into them and I was getting nothing in return for my loss. I don't take kindly to being ripped off.
I say let the nullbears win. Let them get their wish. Wipe out all of hisec. Wipe out all the miners & industrialists living there. Bounty them up & gank them all into quitting. I want to sit back and laugh at the barren, withered husk of an economy that is left afterwards. I want to see them crying that a Rifter costs a billion ISK and not understand why because anything beyond "pew pew" is beyond the grasp of their tiny, shriveled little minds. It will be glorious.
"But the planning enthusiast will protest, when all the lions are behaving selfishly and over-hunting the prey species to the point of extinction, everybody is worse off, even the individual lions that are the most successful hunters. Ultimately, if all the prey goes extinct, the entire lion population will too Surely, the planner insists, natural selection will step in to stop that happening? Once again alas, and once again no. The problem is that natural selection doesn't 'step in,' natural selection doesn't look into the future, and natural selection doesn't choose between rival groups. If it did, there would be some chance that prudent predation could be favored. Natural selection, as Darwin realized much more clearly than many of his successors, chooses between rival individuals within a population. Even if the entire population is diving to extinction, driven down by individual competition, natural selection will still favor the most competitive individuals, right up until the moment when the last one dies. Natural selection can drive a population to extinction, while constantly favoring, to the bitter end, those competitive genes that are destined to be the last to go extinct." EvE Forum Bingo |
Pantson Head
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
17
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Posted - 2012.12.08 10:15:00 -
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It's like freedom of speech. When complete asshats can say horrible things, you know you can say what you want. Here in EvE, when this guy can place bounties on miners, I know that i'll be able to place bounties on people who confuse "to" with "too" in local. Also in corp chat. Pretty much any chat, really.
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Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
303
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Posted - 2012.12.08 10:20:00 -
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Pantson Head wrote:It's like freedom of speech. When complete asshats can say horrible things, you know you can say what you want. Here in EvE, when this guy can place bounties on miners, I know that i'll be able to place bounties on people who confuse "to" with "too" in local. Also in corp chat. Pretty much any chat, really.
Bounties for poor English skills?
Seems legit. I'm in You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
1090
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Posted - 2012.12.08 10:59:00 -
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You do understand though that having a bounty doesn't mean you can be killed right? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Trin Again
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.12.08 11:24:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Ragnaarak wrote:I guess one of the things i find....well bemusing...is I have a 5.0 sec status, have never griefed anyone (unless u count posting on forums with my opinions griefing as one person who bountied me said) and have only rarely been in combat....yet i can have 400M+ in bounties placed on me for no better reason than the fact im a carebear that likes mining, mission running and the odd incursion?....so why should i bother maintaining a 5.0 sec status...will concord arrive faster? doubtful Unsub button worked for me. If CCP doesn't care about you then why should you care about them? Games are supposed to be fun. When they are no longer fun we stop playing them. I, for one, am not going to keep giving them money to make me miserable. One IRS in the world is enough, thanks. And before any brainless nitwit asks: My corp is getting my stuff. And no, I don't really give a crap about this joke of a bounty system. I just couldn't stand logging in one day and finding that my entire fleet of drone ships (Myrmidon, Gila, Rattlesnake) had all been rendered utterly worthless, along with the better part of a year's worth of skill points hat I had invested into them and I was getting nothing in return for my loss. I don't take kindly to being ripped off. I say let the nullbears win. Let them get their wish. Wipe out all of hisec. Wipe out all the miners & industrialists living there. Bounty them up & gank them all into quitting. I want to sit back and laugh at the barren, withered husk of an economy that is left afterwards. I want to see them crying that a Rifter costs a billion ISK and not understand why because anything beyond "pew pew" is beyond the grasp of their tiny, shriveled little minds. It will be glorious. "But the planning enthusiast will protest, when all the lions are behaving selfishly and over-hunting the prey species to the point of extinction, everybody is worse off, even the individual lions that are the most successful hunters. Ultimately, if all the prey goes extinct, the entire lion population will too Surely, the planner insists, natural selection will step in to stop that happening? Once again alas, and once again no. The problem is that natural selection doesn't 'step in,' natural selection doesn't look into the future, and natural selection doesn't choose between rival groups. If it did, there would be some chance that prudent predation could be favored. Natural selection, as Darwin realized much more clearly than many of his successors, chooses between rival individuals within a population. Even if the entire population is diving to extinction, driven down by individual competition, natural selection will still favor the most competitive individuals, right up until the moment when the last one dies. Natural selection can drive a population to extinction, while constantly favoring, to the bitter end, those competitive genes that are destined to be the last to go extinct."
This pubbie person doesn't understand that mining takes place in nullsec too.
The bounty system is working as intended. No changes need be made. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
183
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Posted - 2012.12.08 12:22:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Pantson Head wrote:It's like freedom of speech. When complete asshats can say horrible things, you know you can say what you want. Here in EvE, when this guy can place bounties on miners, I know that i'll be able to place bounties on people who confuse "to" with "too" in local. Also in corp chat. Pretty much any chat, really.
Bounties for poor English skills? Seems legit. I'm in
And don't forget those who confuse 'loose' with 'lose'.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1098
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Posted - 2012.12.08 12:50:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:When boba fett came to kill luke skywalker he didn't sit there crying how he didn't do anything wrong. Such is the point of bounties. Someone has payed to have you killed, as in real life the reason matters not and cannot be inforced.
What the heck......when did Boba Fett 'come to kill Luke' ? In fact, I believe Han Solo was whom he made off with.
Besides, a Hollywood film's logic has nothing to do with logic in a computer game, much less life.
Sorry, just thought your post was really odd. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
1098
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Posted - 2012.12.08 12:52:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:This does bring up a question.
So I gather you have no idea who placed a bounty on you ? You would think you should at least know who wants you dead.
You receive a mail from CONCORD informing you of exactly who.
Now we know who needs one RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
306
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Posted - 2012.12.08 12:59:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Keno Skir wrote:When boba fett came to kill luke skywalker he didn't sit there crying how he didn't do anything wrong. Such is the point of bounties. Someone has payed to have you killed, as in real life the reason matters not and cannot be inforced. What the heck......when did Boba Fett 'come to kill Luke' ? In fact, I believe Han Solo was whom he made off with. Besides, a Hollywood film's logic has nothing to do with logic in a computer game, much less life. Sorry, just thought your post was really odd.
Did you know Boba Fett shoots at Luke in Return of the Jedi instead of Hahn? Do you know why? Because Luke is a Jedi. Fett hates Jedi. Even before the prequels, this was established in the lore. He would much rather kill Jedi for free than go after a 50,000 credit bounty (which is a lot of money in Star Wars, apparently). So it didn't even have anything to do with a bounty in that case. Luke was a target of opportunity - as is any random bounty You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
218
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Posted - 2012.12.08 13:00:00 -
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Ragnaarak wrote:Bounty system is going out of control.
Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.
Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason other than "Oh what the F**K, ive made a **** ton of ISK so why not use this new Griefing technique handed to me by the game makers".
Yes i know a bounty doesnt mean u can be attacked without concord intervention in hi sec but its yet another annoyance from those that only see EVE as another 1st person shooter.
Cheers for making the game a little less appealing to a person that likes the industrial side of the game.
Coughcryercough again QQ post.
The bounty system works perfect however to need to increase player bounty not 100k isk lol. |
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