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TornSoul	Posted - 2005.05.09 21:43:00 - [1] Edited by: TornSoul on 09/05/2005 21:59:54 www.BIG-EVE.com The BIG Lottery is celebrating it's 2 year anniversary this round. It's the BIG Lottery's 2nd year anniversary T2 Extravaganza! Special prizes for a special occation of course As most will know, the BIG Lottery usually only sports a single prize "Winner takes it all" style. But as this round is very special - We've of course decided to outdo ourself with prizes this time. There's actually that many prizes, that your chance of winning one of them is around 10%-15% - Should we get the same amount of participants as we usually get. How about that for some nice odds (We expect a bit more participants than usual though ) The full list of prizes are A * 500M ISK (from the lottery ticket sales) B * 200 days of paid EVE access (2100 EVE time cards) C 100 days of paid EVE access (1100 EVE time card) D 1x Deimos E * 1x Munnin + 5x 650mm Artilary II F * 1x Wolf + 4x 200mm autocannons II G * 1x Cheetah H * 1x Viator + 10MN A/B I * 1x Ishtar J * 1x Cerberus K * 1x Hawk L * 1x Special Prize Pack consists of : 1x 100MN A/B 2 1x Co-Processor 2 1x Dual Light Pulse laser 2 1x Modualted strip Miner 2 1x Electron Blaster 2 1x Neutron Blaster 1x 1200mm Artilary2 1x 200mm Autocannon 2 1x ECM Phase Invertor 2 1x Tracking Computer 2 Prizes D through L are all sponsored by BIG Sales!!! How about that for a BIG mouthfull Enjoy - and Good Luck Sponsor 25M ISK donation from the Fountain Alliance (FA) The FA is sponsoring the BIG Lottery in order to promote awareness of the FA passport program. Buying a passport allows you entry to the Fountain Region for hunting purposes (no mining). A passport costs 5M ISK for a day, and 25M ISK for a week. To get your passport simply contact a FA member in channel 'Fountain'. Remember the drawing of the new, the 53rd 2 year anniversary, round of the BIG Lottery is on Monday, May 23th, 1800 EVE time (GMT) in ingame channel 'BIG Games'. Good Luck BIG Lottery [u
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2005.05.10 06:04:00 - [2] i'm due to win by now aren't I? ----------- "Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!" Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI I have a blog
Tiki Rar	Posted - 2005.05.10 07:03:00 - [3] Me too o/ .. Some nice prizes there .. But no Amarr ships :O ----------- ]http://www.insane-mapping.tk[
Shimatu	Posted - 2005.05.10 12:21:00 - [4] not sure i like the time-card things... would rather have a spare cerberus... :P looks good tho, will try and remember to enter :) (oh. an idea. it looks like youve put the prizes in order of effectiveness/cost. How about allowing people to trade in the prize they win for a lower one? would make people less likely to end up with things that are useless to them.) 3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
Hellspawn01	Posted - 2005.05.10 14:59:00 - [5] Is that a sponsored standard Neutron blaster or T2? --------------------------------------------- Eve is not game, it¦s a way of life!
nashi	Posted - 2005.05.10 15:30:00 - [6] everything is Tech II.
Itachi san	Posted - 2005.05.10 21:01:00 - [7] Edited by: Itachi san on 10/05/2005 21:00:57 sweet. i brought the tickets from my other char. hope i win sumthin. me first time doin this kinda thing. can sumone explain how do we win. like in more simple words.
QwaarJet	Posted - 2005.05.11 01:39:00 - [8] I would much rather have ISK than any of that stuff. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!"
nashi	Posted - 2005.05.11 16:27:00 - [9] on the day of the draw, people gather in a channel for the lottery. A request is put out for them to pick some random numbers in a certain range (depends on ticket slaes) Then using a math formula, we choose the winning number. Looking at the ticket sales DB, we then know who had that ticket and they win. I believe that a number will be chosen for each of the prizes. And remember, if you can't or don't want to use it, feel free to take the ship and sell it. Those HAC are worth 55+ million each.
Xinity	Posted - 2005.05.11 16:33:00 - [10] I have to be in the chan in order to win?!? ---------- CEO - X-Trans ----------

Shimatu	Posted - 2005.05.11 16:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Xinity I have to be in the chan in order to win?!? no, the people in the channel are just used to help create the random number 3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
Itachi san	Posted - 2005.05.11 23:12:00 - [12] so we ccreated the random numbers. how can u pick the wining tickets. i still confused on how a person gets a prize. i get the ppl are gonig to be in vhan but i still dunt no how tehy get prizes. we cant exatly have 5000 ticket numbers and remember them
gameforce	Posted - 2005.05.12 00:08:00 - [13] Count me in
Mimiru	Posted - 2005.05.12 02:11:00 - [14] You dont have to memorize you ticket numbers. All of the ticket numbers are saved with the name of the person who bought the ticket in our database. When the random number is picked we simply go to the number in the database and see who bought it, and then contact that person <Ap0k> "MIM: Like Gangrenous Body Parts without the amputation!"
Itachi san	Posted - 2005.05.12 02:33:00 - [15] sweet man. so i dunt have to be in chan when this happens and i still get a prize if my ticket is chosen?
Puncher	Posted - 2005.05.12 06:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Itachi san so i dunt have to be in chan when this happens and i still get a prize if my ticket is chosen? Correct, easy thing ever. \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 323907
Akela	Posted - 2005.05.12 12:21:00 - [17] How is the winner found? The winner is found by a random draw. A participant who has bougth 2 tickets will have twice the chance of winning as someone who has bought only 1 ticket. No.. You have the same chance of winning, two times....
velox	Posted - 2005.05.12 12:27:00 - [18] Originally by: nashi on the day of the draw, people gather in a channel for the lottery. A request is put out for them to pick some random numbers in a certain range (depends on ticket slaes) Then using a math formula, we choose the winning number. Looking at the ticket sales DB, we then know who had that ticket and they win. I believe that a number will be chosen for each of the prizes. And remember, if you can't or don't want to use it, feel free to take the ship and sell it. Those HAC are worth 55+ million each. I think the BIG Lottery are doing and have done a great job over the previous 52 draws and may we all lookforward to the next 52 Nashi, I have a question about the way the draw is done. Can you give me an insight into how the formula works based on the number randomly chosen is input. I.E is the input no. only used as a number of cycles the DB will do before spitting a winner etc... Or for example if the no. is a 43 you choose the 43rd ticket in 100 selected at random from the DB. Just curious. Velox Always aiming one step beyond the edge.
Sgt Mayhem	Posted - 2005.05.12 13:47:00 - [19] Hi Big, Is it too late to enter for this huge anniversary draw? I can buy a total of 5000 tickets per character at 1,000isk per ticket = 5m isk per character right? When (time and date) is the draw for this? What is the channel name? Many thanks and looking forward to joining in :) Regards Sgt Mayhem * Any non-greedy corps with the BPO doing a more reasonable pricing structure? * Are you serious? This is eve mate.
Sgt Mayhem	Posted - 2005.05.12 13:50:00 - [20] Originally by: Sgt Mayhem Hi Big, Is it too late to enter for this huge anniversary draw? I can buy a total of 5000 tickets per character at 1,000isk per ticket = 5m isk per character right? When (time and date) is the draw for this? What is the channel name? Many thanks and looking forward to joining in :) Sorry, just found all the info on yer webby. Regards Sgt Mayhem * Any non-greedy corps with the BPO doing a more reasonable pricing structure? * Are you serious? This is eve mate.

nashi	Posted - 2005.05.12 14:12:00 - [21] Edited by: nashi on 12/05/2005 14:13:03 Yep, you can buy tickets until the Sunday before the Draw. Please follow the directions on the website for how to buy a ticket. The math is you request the people in the channel to name numbers in the ticket count range. Say 100-1000. You take most of those numbers (usually 75%-all) and add them together. Next you divide that by the highest ticket number. Then you find the remainder and that is the winning ticket. It's refered to as a modulus equation. It looks like this for tickets 100-1000 567 438 369 101 983 add them together: 567+438+369+101+983 = 2458 Divide the total by the total tickets: 2458 / 1000 = 2.458 Find the remainder: 1000 * 0.458 = 458 Winning Ticket is 458 Of course Excel does all this for you with one of it's functions so it's a bit faster. We also encourage people in the channel to calculate this also, never hurts to have people checking your math. (MOD is the name of the Excel Function)
Miniver Cheevy	Posted - 2005.05.12 20:06:00 - [22] If I buy two tickets, can I win twice, or is it one prize per character?
TornSoul	Posted - 2005.05.12 21:21:00 - [23] You can win twice - If you are really really really really.... lucky Good Luck BIG Lottery [u
Dobra	Posted - 2005.05.12 22:08:00 - [24] I can't access the lottery page. How do you participate? /Dobra
Renbo	Posted - 2005.05.12 22:42:00 - [25] Copied from the Lottery page: How to deposit money to "BIG Games" (buy a ticket) * Open addressbook (2nd icon from the top) * Enter the name 'BIG Games' and press Search * Rightclick the portrait of BIG Games and select "Give Money" * Enter the ammount of ISK and hit OK Please note that the database is manually updated with the accountance info from the wallet of the char "BIG Games", so the lottery info will not (currently) be updated in real time. We will try to update multiple times a day. Rules 1) You can buy more than one ticket. You can do this with one deposit (say 5K ISK) or multiple purchases. 2) Tickets bought will not be refundable. 3) If you pay in 1,400 ISK, the 400 ISK will be treated as a "donation" to BIG, and will not be refundable If you later pay in 1,600 ISK the 600 will again be treated as a donation. So you only get 2 tickets - and not 3 as if you had payed 3K at once. Any amounts below 1,000 ISK, ie. 567 ISK, will also be treated as a donation. 4) BIG will keep 10% of the deposited ISK - the rest will be payed out as prize money. 5) BIG will only pay out as much in prize money as have been deposited into the lottery via ticket sales (minus the 10%) 6) Mails send to BIG Games will most likely go unread and not be answered. Mails requiring the CSPA charge of 100 ISK, because you have not added BIG Games to you addresbook will never be answered. 7) No member of BIG is allowed to participate in the lottery Special rule for this round: * No more then 5000 tickets (5m isk) can be bought per char (if you put more then 5m isk, the rest of the money is treated as a donation). Interesting fact: * In each of the previous 52 rounds, BIG have waived it's 10% administration fee.
SuperSharpSh00ter	Posted - 2005.05.12 23:02:00 - [26] I am a neewbie to eve and want to play this lottery but I can't access any of the web pages to the Big Lottery is the site down or has it moved? http://www.big-eve.com/ and http://big.wayland.dk/lottery.asp Also thanks for the last post on info on how to enter but i would like to see the website to find out more info.
Geoff W	Posted - 2005.05.12 23:09:00 - [27] Originally by: nashi Edited by: nashi on 12/05/2005 14:13:03 Yep, you can buy tickets until the Sunday before the Draw. Please follow the directions on the website for how to buy a ticket. The math is you request the people in the channel to name numbers in the ticket count range. Say 100-1000. You take most of those numbers (usually 75%-all) and add them together. Next you divide that by the highest ticket number. Then you find the remainder and that is the winning ticket. It's refered to as a modulus equation. It looks like this for tickets 100-1000 567 438 369 101 983 add them together: 567+438+369+101+983 = 2458 Divide the total by the total tickets: 2458 / 1000 = 2.458 Find the remainder: 1000 * 0.458 = 458 Winning Ticket is 458 Of course Excel does all this for you with one of it's functions so it's a bit faster. We also encourage people in the channel to calculate this also, never hurts to have people checking your math. (MOD is the name of the Excel Function) this is hardly a "random" number :)
Ace Combat	Posted - 2005.05.13 00:08:00 - [28] Originally by: Geoff W Originally by: nashi Edited by: nashi on 12/05/2005 14:13:03 Yep, you can buy tickets until the Sunday before the Draw. Please follow the directions on the website for how to buy a ticket. The math is you request the people in the channel to name numbers in the ticket count range. Say 100-1000. You take most of those numbers (usually 75%-all) and add them together. Next you divide that by the highest ticket number. Then you find the remainder and that is the winning ticket. It's refered to as a modulus equation. It looks like this for tickets 100-1000 567 438 369 101 983 add them together: 567+438+369+101+983 = 2458 Divide the total by the total tickets: 2458 / 1000 = 2.458 Find the remainder: 1000 * 0.458 = 458 Winning Ticket is 458 Of course Excel does all this for you with one of it's functions so it's a bit faster. We also encourage people in the channel to calculate this also, never hurts to have people checking your math. (MOD is the name of the Excel Function) this is hardly a "random" number :) How is it not random when the people taking part are picking a series of numbers out the air, the first 4 to show on Big Games screen are the ones used.
Voltaire Leriel	Posted - 2005.05.13 00:43:00 - [29] Edited by: Voltaire Leriel on 13/05/2005 00:48:53 Well, we don't pick the numbers and you guys can't see the database - so you can't cheat and we don't pick who wins. Plus I think what nashi gave was just an example, we use more than the first few numbers; he said we try to use as many as possible. I can tell you from past lotteries, that we are not biased as to who wins the lottery, we have had players win that where actually fighting against us at the time. (In fact the one instance I remember, it was a guy who put the entire pot onto his bounty :P) Anyone can win the lottery, ANYONE. PS: the website IS down, but it is not crucial to the ticket buying (as that is all done by hand anyway.) - so if you want information on how to play the lottery: Quote: Copied from the Lottery page: How to deposit money to "BIG Games" (buy a ticket) * Open addressbook (2nd icon from the top) * Enter the name 'BIG Games' and press Search * Rightclick the portrait of BIG Games and select "Give Money" * Enter the ammount of ISK and hit OK * 1,000 ISK per ticket, 5000 ticket limit, so the max is 5,000,000 ISK to get 5,000 tickets. Please note that the database is manually updated with the accountance info from the wallet of the char "BIG Games", so the lottery info will not (currently) be updated in real time. We will try to update multiple times a day. Rules 1) You can buy more than one ticket. You can do this with one deposit (say 5K ISK) or multiple purchases. 2) Tickets bought will not be refundable. 3) If you pay in 1,400 ISK, the 400 ISK will be treated as a "donation" to BIG, and will not be refundable If you later pay in 1,600 ISK the 600 will again be treated as a donation. So you only get 2 tickets - and not 3 as if you had payed 3K at once. Any amounts below 1,000 ISK, ie. 567 ISK, will also be treated as a donation. 4) BIG will keep 10% of the deposited ISK - the rest will be payed out as prize money. 5) BIG will only pay out as much in prize money as have been deposited into the lottery via ticket sales (minus the 10%) 6) Mails send to BIG Games will most likely go unread and not be answered. Mails requiring the CSPA charge of 100 ISK, because you have not added BIG Games to you addresbook will never be answered. 7) No member of BIG is allowed to participate in the lottery Special rule for this round: * No more then 5000 tickets (5m isk) can be bought per char (if you put more then 5m isk, the rest of the money is treated as a donation). Interesting fact: * In each of the previous 52 rounds, BIG have waived it's 10% administration fee. Voltaire's EVE Online Desktop Wallpapers http://www.big-eve.com
Ctharth	Posted - 2005.05.13 10:57:00 - [30] I wired you guys 250.000 ISK yesterday. No reciepts even though you updated.. explanation?

ArchenTheGreat	Posted - 2005.05.13 12:01:00 - [31] Originally by: TornSoul Remember the drawing of the new, the 53rd 2 year anniversary, round of the BIG Lottery is on Monday, May 23th, 1800 EVE time (GMT) in ingame channel 'BIG Games'. Should I be in channel during drawing? I can't be online that day, how will I be informed about winning?
Shimatu	Posted - 2005.05.13 12:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Ctharth I wired you guys 250.000 ISK yesterday. No reciepts even though you updated.. explanation? i'd guess things are a little disorganised due to the massive volume theyve got atm :P i'm sure theyll get a receipt out to you soon... on the random number side... wouldnt it be more logical (and less manipulatable) to use the numbers entered in the channel as a seed for a properly random number? tbh, my calculator can make a randomer (that a word? it should be) number than this method... 3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
spiritfa11	Posted - 2005.05.13 17:29:00 - [33] Originally by: ArchenTheGreat Originally by: TornSoul Remember the drawing of the new, the 53rd 2 year anniversary, round of the BIG Lottery is on Monday, May 23th, 1800 EVE time (GMT) in ingame channel 'BIG Games'. Should I be in channel during drawing? I can't be online that day, how will I be informed about winning? When i won the lottery I was not in that channel nor even online. The isk was wired to my account and an eve mail was sent congratulating me. They will also post the winner on the forums, so you can see who won. --------------------- I'd like to do your sig. You may contact me in-game
TornSoul	Posted - 2005.05.13 18:58:00 - [34] Originally by: Shimatu i'd guess things are a little disorganised due to the massive volume theyve got atm :P i'm sure theyll get a receipt out to you soon... "Massive volume" : Indeed "disorganised" : Definatly not - Just 'lagged' a bit by the aforementioned 'massive volume' (be patient for a couple of days, until the 'storm' has subsided a bit, making it possible for us to keep up again) Originally by: Shimatu on the random number side... wouldnt it be more logical (and less manipulatable) to use the numbers entered in the channel as a seed for a properly random number? tbh, my calculator can make a randomer (that a word? it should be) number than this method... "Less manipulative"??? The approach we use excactly ensures that it cant be manipulated, either by us or by the participants. "my calculator can make a randomer <snip> number" : Do tell how it can be more random, than X people each thinking up a number and entering them into the channel at the excact same time (no chance for anyone to coordinate their numbers and ensure those are picked) If using the participant generated number(pgn) as a seed for some (online) generator - then we could just as well do without the pgn in the first place, and simply use a online generator - Which would be manipulative (as I'd simply be calling out the number - which I could just make up) The method we use is, as said above, impossible to manipulate by anyone - and furthermore is verifiable by everyone at the same time (hence why it cant be manipulated) The method is so sound, that I'd be willing to take any bet, from someone claiming to be able to 'beat it' - aka being able to manipulate it so they'd end up winning (yes thats a challenge ) BIG Lottery [u
Maestra Jsun	Posted - 2005.05.13 20:37:00 - [35] Edited by: Maestra Jsun on 13/05/2005 20:45:33 Ah...my first lotto participation. btw, put me down for 2000 tickets. ________________________________________________ 0.0 Come fly with us...
ZelRox	Posted - 2005.05.13 21:10:00 - [36] Ive entered allmost every round :) Never won anything. Its random i tell ya ---------------------- I wanna tuc tuc ..
Lightdream	Posted - 2005.05.14 02:48:00 - [37] Wow 9 billion worth tickets!!! this is unbelivable
agentsmitty	Posted - 2005.05.14 16:16:00 - [38] Originally by: ZelRox Ive entered allmost every round :) Never won anything. Its random i tell ya I won 250mil in the second one i entered
NAFnist	Posted - 2005.05.16 00:44:00 - [39] OMG BIG > Everyone else _____________
Deteis Kane	Posted - 2005.05.17 08:54:00 - [40] Same as me i entered 100,000isk into the draw on sunday but i've still got no reciept hope its all ok Quote: From the stars we came, to the stars we return, we commemorate these bodies to the deep. Deteis Kane

Ikonz	Posted - 2005.05.17 18:59:00 - [41] I've deposited over 2 mil in isk (I read the rules and did it properly) and when I check my receipts page it says it was all a donation, I didn't get any tickets! I sent the money 2 days ago. ????
Ctharth	Posted - 2005.05.18 08:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Ikonz I've deposited over 2 mil in isk (I read the rules and did it properly) and when I check my receipts page it says it was all a donation, I didn't get any tickets! I sent the money 2 days ago. ???? 1.2 mill missing here deposited the 15th.. really have to check up on you guys, for money deposited afterwards is registered. :)
Ikonz	Posted - 2005.05.18 21:49:00 - [43] Boy, sure am glad I "donated" 2 mil to big. Won't be playing this lotto again.
Guntork	Posted - 2005.05.18 22:10:00 - [44] I sent 5m isk in on 5-16. Tried to view receipt page, but just comes up something about we have to verify who you are. Not sure how to check, am wondering, just becouse never got an evemail and from the looks of the posts, peoples isk are being put in as donations. Please let me know. Thanks
TornSoul	Posted - 2005.05.18 22:56:00 - [45] 1: Check the date on the receipts page A: If your purchase is after that date - It's not entered into the DB yet() B: If it's before that date and your receipt doestn show - Please EVE Mail "BIG Games" with the excact timestamp and amount - and it will be looked in to. Most likely a typo has been made, so the DB cant find you. () Theres so incredible many entries this round that we indeed are lagging quite behind with regards to getting the DB updated. Please bear with us, it's a HUGE amount of work typing it all in by hand. The DB is geeting updated in bulks - as we due to the amount of entries have to do things a bit differntly than usual (Ie having the DB updated daily) Good Luck BIG Lottery [u
Hakera	Posted - 2005.05.19 16:27:00 - [46] my 5mill is in there somewhere :) Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
Supersam	Posted - 2005.05.23 17:09:00 - [47] Some people don't seem to be able to find this thread, so bumperoo --------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Bunny 4TW


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